FUKUSHIMA – WORSE THAN A MELTDOWN

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Posted on 9th June 2011 by Administrator in Economy |Politics |Social Issues

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Where’s the MSM?

Remember when people were saying that ZH and other non-establishment websites were crying wolf and making this disaster out to be worse than it really was? Well it is worse than anyone ever admitted and it is still going on.

Back to your regularly scheduled story of Kim Kardashian’s tits and fat ass.

‘Melt-through’ at Fukushima? / Govt report to IAEA suggests situation worse than meltdown

The Yomiuri Shimbun

Nuclear fuel in three reactors at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant has possibly melted through pressure vessels and accumulated at the bottom of outer containment vessels, according to a government report obtained Tuesday by The Yomiuri Shimbun.

A “melt-through”–when melted nuclear fuel leaks from the bottom of damaged reactor pressure vessels into containment vessels–is far worse than a core meltdown and is the worst possibility in a nuclear accident.

The possibility of the situation at the plant’s Nos. 1 to 3 reactors was raised in a report that is to be submitted to the International Atomic Energy Agency.

If the report is released as is, it would be the first official recognition that a melt-through has occurred.

It was revealed earlier that sections of the bottom of the pressure vessels where control rods go through have been damaged. Highly radioactive water from inside the pressure vessels was confirmed to have leaked out of the containment vessels, even outside the buildings that house the reactors.

The report also acknowledges problems with the vertical administrative structure concerning nuclear safety regulations. As a result, the report says, who was responsible for keeping people safe in the event of a nuclear accident was not clear.

The report proposes separating the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency from the Economy, Trade and Industry Ministry and making it an independent organization. The report also proposes drastic reform of the nation’s nuclear administration, including the Nuclear Safety Commission.

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Vessel damaged 5 hours later

The pressure vessel of the No. 1 reactor at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant is believed to have been damaged five hours after the March 11 earthquake, according to an analysis by the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency.

The finding differs with a provisional analysis earlier released by plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co., which stated the the pressure vessel was believed to have been damaged 15 hours after the March 11 Great East Japan Earthquake.

On Monday, NISA, a nuclear watchdog body run by the Economy, Trade and Industry Ministry, disclosed the results of a detailed analysis regarding damage at the Nos. 1 to 3 nuclear reactors at the Fukushima facility. NISA estimates that the No. 2 reactor’s pressure vessel was damaged 80 hours after the disaster. TEPCO’s analysis contends the No. 2 reactor’s pressure vessel was damaged 109 hours after the quake.

According to NISA’s analysis, the No.1 reactor’s core began suffering damage three hours after the earthquake.

The No. 1 reactor’s pressure vessel was damaged at 8 p.m. on March 11, five hours after the earthquake. The No. 2 reactor’s pressure vessel suffered damage at 10:50 p.m. on March 14, while the No. 3 reactor’s pressure vessel suffered damage at 10:10 p.m. on March 14. NISA data showed the pressure vessels at the Nos. 1 and 2 reactors were damaged earlier than TEPCO’s analysis showed.

On the other hand, the No. 3 reactor’s pressure vessel was found to have been damaged 13 hours later than TEPCO’s data showed.

NISA presumed the vessels failed when there was almost no water in the reactor cores of the Nos. 2 and 3 reactors.

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Jun. 8, 2011

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31 Comments
  1. StuckInNJ says:

    What’s on TV tonight?

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    9th June 2011 at 1:01 pm

  2. Buckhed says:

    Not Fucked-a -shima Stuck….remember…Keep on walking folks…nothing here to see !

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    9th June 2011 at 1:24 pm

  3. Muck About says:

    All this “report” does is move a few chair around on the deck of sinking ship. No news here.

    MA

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    9th June 2011 at 1:49 pm

  4. Dingbat says:

    Did you see where Edie Falco from the Soprano’s was talking all kinds of trash about Kim Kardashian? What’s that about?

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    9th June 2011 at 2:17 pm

  5. Apollo says:

    The melt-down was widely suspected by experts based on detection of released materials.
    A melt-through is now confirmed. This is most serious. It make clean up and dis-assembly of the plant so difficult as to be almost impossible.

    What is the actual root cause of this tragedy?

    9.0 earthquake? No. All equipment survived the hit.
    15m high tsunami? No, not really.
    Reinforcing the dykes only to 5m? No, although doing it to 10m would cost so so little.
    The cooling water generator got knocked out? Well, when you build such a plant next to the sea, why don’t they make the generators water-proof? Yes, these generators got knocked out, and thus the reactor cores melt even when shut down for power generation.

    The root cause is WIRING ALL THE COOLING ELECTRIC GENERATORS INTO THE SAME CIRCUIT!

    A design stupidity so stupendous, ….

    Now before we laugh at the Japanese engineers, let’s recall that this plant is a GE design.

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    9th June 2011 at 3:00 pm

  6. Administrator says:

    Apollo

    GE brings good things to life. Obama is going to make Jeff Immelt his top nuclear advisor.

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    9th June 2011 at 3:07 pm

  7. StuckInNJ says:

    Did you know Chumlee’s real name is Austin? Cool, huh?

    Did you know you can play Pawn Stars online?? Way cool.

    My favorite character is Rick Dale – he’s the guy that restores badly battered old shit. I wonder if he works on people. He really is amazing. He’s gonna do just fine when TSHTF.

    Don’t eat fish from Japan.

    Or cukes from Spain.

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    9th June 2011 at 3:24 pm

  8. newsjunkie says:

    I have some distant relatives that live in Japan, close enough to Fukushima to be worried about the radiation, but they won’t LEAVE! I makes me seriously concerned about human nature. When the SHTF, will most people just not do anything to improve their chances of living?

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    9th June 2011 at 3:51 pm

  9. Reverse Engineer says:

    No worries. LLPOH predicts Japan will be bck to BAU by December.

    RE

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    9th June 2011 at 4:16 pm

  10. matt says:

    Amazing, we can’t get the truth about anything until way after the fact, even a nuclear disaster. I guess the shareholders of TEPCO and GE have higher priority than the health and welfare of a couple hundred thousand humans. I wonder if Weiner got his press release crying skills from the CEO of TEPCO, or maybe a local boy like John Boner?

    “If a politician tells the truth in the news, would anyone hear it?”

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    9th June 2011 at 4:23 pm

  11. lllpoh says:

    RE – what I said is that manufacturing would recover lost capacity.

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    9th June 2011 at 4:44 pm

  12. Dan says:

    melt-through, schmelt-through…..didn’t you hear about the dirtbag who tweeted pic’s of his junk to chicks?

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    9th June 2011 at 6:07 pm

  13. StuckInNJ says:

    Dan –

    You must be talking about Anthony Weiner.

    Does anyone know where to find a picture of his pecker? I KNOW it’s online somewhere but I can’t seem to find it.

    The only thng I could find is this.

    Anthony-Weiner-Penis.jpg

    Jeezus … talk about a Deficit !!!

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    9th June 2011 at 6:19 pm

  14. StuckInNJ says:

    WASHINGTON (BHN) – Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) admitted Thursday morning in an interview that the photo sent to a young woman’s Twitter account was, in fact, his penis, but that he played no part in it.

    “It looks like my penis and probably is, but I had absolutely no idea it was photographing itself and sending it to people,” said the obviously distraught Congressman. “Sometimes my penis has a mind of its own, I sincerely apologize for its actions.”

    House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) apparently believes his colleague’s story – he told reporters today that “only a perverted liberal dick would do such a thing.”

    Later, Rep. Weiner’s penis held a brief news conference where, speaking through the Congressman, it admitted to sending the photos of itself without the permission or knowledge of Rep. Weiner

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    9th June 2011 at 6:24 pm

  15. Punk in Drublic says:

    Ok, time for another Toxic Avenger post then… I’ll go with the off Broadway musical this time.
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    And I’ll throw in a song, “Hot Toxic Love”, for everyone over there at Fukushima.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiUcRNreENw

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    9th June 2011 at 6:35 pm

  16. Surly1 says:

    Fuk-U-shima comes home.

    Saw this early this morning:
    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/06/seattle-residents-exposed-to-10.html

    As I have previously noted, small particles of radiation – called “internal emitters” – which get inside the body are much more dangerous than general exposures to radiation. And see this and this.

    Nuclear expert Arnie Gundersen told CNN on Monday that residents of Seattle, Washington, are breathing an average of 10 “hot particles” per day of radiation from Fukushima:

    Hot particles have an affinity for the lungs, and – if breathed in – can cause cancer down the road.

    I am in touch with some scientists now who have been monitoring the air on the West Coast and in Seattle for instance, in April, the average person in Seattle breathed in 10 hot particles a day.

    ***

    The report takes some time to make its way into the literature. The average human being breathes about 10 meters a day of air, cubic meters of air. And the air out in the Seattle area are detecting, when they pull 10 cubic meters through them, this is in April now, so we are in the end of May so it is a better situation now. That air filter will have 10 hot particles on it. And that was before the Unit Four issue. Clearly we all can’t run south of the equator to our second homes in Rio or something like that. But it will stay north of the equator for anyone who has a Leer jet and can get out. But I guess what I am advising at that point is keep your windows closed. I would definitely wear some sort of a filter if I was outside. I certainly wouldn’t run and exercise until I was sure the plume had dissipated. This isn’t now. This is, as you were saying, this is worst case. If Unit Four were to topple, I would close my windows, turn the air conditioner on, replace the filters frequently, damp mop, put a HEPA filter in the house and try to avoid as much of the hot particles as possible. You are not going to walk out with a Geiger counter and be in a plume that is going to tell you the meter. The issue will be on the West Coast, hot particles. And the solution there is HEPA filters and avoiding them.

    Gundersen also told CNN that Fukushima photos showed steam in March and April because it was cold. He said that the lack of visible steam doesn’t mean that radiation releases have stopped, only that the warmer air temperatures mean that releases won’t form visible steam.

    And he pointed out last week that the White House and Nuclear Regulatory Commission recommend a 50 mile evacuation around Fukushima, yet insist that the U.S. is safe with only a 10 mile evacuation.

    Gundersen also said yesterday:

    “So eventually though we are going to see top of the food chain animals like tuna and salmon and things like that that have this process bio accumulates. The bigger fish gradually get higher and higher concentrations. And I am concerned that the FDA is not monitoring fish entering the United States because sooner or later a tuna is going to set off a radiation alarm at some part and people are going to think it’s a dirty bomb or something like that. So that’s not here yet because the tuna haven’t migrated across the Pacific. But I am thinking by 2013 we might see contamination of the water and of the top of the food chain fishes on the West Coast.”

    So we have that to look forward to . . .

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    9th June 2011 at 6:35 pm

  17. AwholeDr says:

    I read somewhere that some NJ girls won the best BJ contest over NY. Ya’all should be proud!
    Stucky is in rare form today.

    NJ is on the tube far too much….
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    9th June 2011 at 6:44 pm

  18. King-shat says:

    RE must be lovin his original comments about this. 7 Million, right RE?

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    9th June 2011 at 8:30 pm

  19. Administrator says:

    Japan considers evacuating more towns

    By Virginia M. Harrison

    SYDNEY(MarketWatch) — Japan’s government is considering evacuating more towns affected by the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster as data showed new areas of elevated contamination levels, the Wall Street Journal reported on its website Friday. The areas under review, which could affect more than 180 families, are outside Japan’s existing 30 kilometer (18.6 mile) evacuation zone, but within the 80-kilometer (46.7 mile) zone initially recommended by the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the report said. It comes after a series of recent reports that said the nuclear accident at the Fukushima plant was more severe that earlier described, the newspaper said.

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    9th June 2011 at 9:15 pm

  20. Reverse Engineer says:

    @KS

    :-) Yah, besides nailing the MENA escalation I nailed Fuk-U-shima quite well also.

    On the Doom Scoreboard, I seem to do better with the Political calls and the Environemental Disaster calls than I do with predicting WTF Helicopter Ben will do.

    Just to let you guys know, the Western edge of the Ring of Fire is really starting to Shake. Repetitive 5+ Quakes going from just north of the Kiwis through Indonesia up to the Japans. Something definitely is going on under there.

    RE

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    9th June 2011 at 10:06 pm

  21. Reverse Engineer says:

    “RE – what I said is that manufacturing would recover lost capacity.”-llpoh

    No, that is not what you said, but its irrelevant anyhow. Even if that was your prognostication, you are already in deep doo doo, and unles the Nips get a Miracle from GOD here, by December they are going to be lining up at the Seppuku Concession at Mt Fuji.

    Are you living on fucking Mars? The Japanese are

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    RE

    Toyota expects fiscal year profit to fall 31 pct

    FILE – In this March 30, 2011 file photo, the Toyota logo is shown at Wilsonville Toyota, in Wilsonville, Ore. Toyota said Friday June 10, 2011 its profit for the fiscal year through March 2012 will fall 31 percent to 280 billion yen ($3.5 billion) in an outlook that underlines a robust recovery in the latter half of the fiscal year from the damage of the quake and tsunami.

    The Associated Press
    TOKYO — Toyota says its profit for the fiscal year through March 2012 will fall 31 percent to 280 billion yen ($3.5 billion) in an outlook that underlines a robust recovery in the latter half of the fiscal year from the damage of an earthquake and tsunami.

    Toyota Motor Corp. made the announcement Friday. It had not given an earnings forecast earlier because of uncertainties in its production outlook after the disasters on March 11 wiped out key parts suppliers in northeastern Japan.

    Last month, it said January-March quarterly profit crumpled more than 75 percent because of the parts shortage that is hurting production.

    THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP’s earlier story is below.

    TOKYO (AP) – Toyota says its profit for the fiscal year through March 2012 will fall 31 percent to 280 billion yen ($3.5 billion) in an outlook that underlines a robust recovery in the latter half of the fiscal year from the damage of an earthquake and tsunami.

    Toyota Motor Corp. made the announcement Friday. It had not given an earnings forecast earlier because of uncertainties in its production outlook after the disasters on March 11 wiped out key parts suppliers in northeastern Japan.

    Last month, it said January-March quarterly profit crumpled more than 75 percent because of the parts shortage that is hurting production.

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    9th June 2011 at 3:14 am

  22. Reverse Engineer says:

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    RE

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    9th June 2011 at 3:29 am

  23. Reverse Engineer says:

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    RE

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    9th June 2011 at 3:38 am

  24. cv51 says:

    France and Germany have already warned against consumption of milk and green leafy vegetables and they are a lot further downwind than RE.

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    9th June 2011 at 7:01 am

  25. llpoh says:

    RE – it is what I fucking said. And so far it looks about right. Things are about 6 weeks behind schedule last estimates I saw.

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    9th June 2011 at 7:12 am

  26. Administrator says:

    I can’t wait for Alaska to blow.

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    9th June 2011 at 8:23 am

  27. llpoh says:

    Admin – if RE keeps putting words in my mouth there is a small hovel that may be the first to disappear. I get the feeling Muck is close to joining in over the same issue. We need to give AKAnon plenty of notice so he can get away, tho.

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    9th June 2011 at 5:33 pm

  28. Surly1 says:

    Just not that important, now that the Sarah Palin emails are being released.

    15 million unemployed, more than 5 millions foreclosures, 45 million uninsured, $1.204,929,111,000 cost of wars Iraq, Afghanistan (not including Libya), thirty year class war against workers in America, pensions lost, 401Ks lost, personal credit ratings obliterated, unlimited bailouts for TBTF banks, Ponzi Schemes by Financial Systems and Wall street, and Sarah Palin is the news.

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    9th June 2011 at 6:11 pm

  29. Reverse Engineer says:

    No worries llpoh, the End Cat is Coming Soon to a Theatre Near You.

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    RE

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    9th June 2011 at 6:46 pm

  30. Hope@ZeroKelvin says:

    Oh, what a surprise, the fed.gov of Japan was LYING to their own people and the world. What a fucking shocker.

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    I TOLD llpoh that we had not plunged the depths of this horrid affair and that the F’shima mess would reverberate throughout the Japanese economy and foodchain – and then onto the world itself.

    We will either find out that core meltdowns are a mini-Armageddon or no big deal or it won’t matter anyhoo because the world is spinning out of control as it is and what does it matter if there is one more extinction event, aha aha.

    @RE: I used to have a cat that looked just like your End Cat, his name was Fluffoman and I would give him a “lion cut” shave because I didn’t have 5 hours a day to brush all the matts out of him. I don’t know why I told you that or why you should care, but anyway, there it is.

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    9th June 2011 at 6:56 pm

  31. Thinker says:

    Typhoon Roke on Track for Leaking Nuke Plant

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    9th June 2011 at 3:10 pm

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