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THE TOP 10 SIGNS THAT YOU MIGHT BE A ZOMBIE
by Mike Adams – www.thedailybell.com
If you burn your yard rather than mow it, you might be a redneck, says comedian Jeff Foxworthy. But how might you realize you’re a zombie? Here are the top ten signs that you just might be a zombie…
Sign #1:
If you routinely take flu shot vaccines and then wonder why you still catch the flu every winter, you might be a zombie.
Annual flu shots are “medicines for the mindless.” Even according to the medical scientists who are pro-vaccine, flu shots simply don’t work on 99 out of 100 people. So if you find yourself standing in line at the pharmacy waiting to get a flu shot, think to yourself, “Whoa! I might be a zombie!”
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Sign #2:
If you find yourself watching mainstream media news, but still can’t make sense of world events, you might be a zombie.
The purpose of the mainstream media is not to keep you informed, but to make you obedient. Mainstream news stories are chosen to promote a corporate agenda, not to bring you accurate information about events that might impact your life in meaningful ways. Those who watch mainstream news television quickly become zombies and then go on to succumb to vaccines and other brain poisons such as fluoride in the water (see below).
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Sign #3:
If you find yourself mindlessly following your doctor’s advice even while your sickness gets increasingly worse, you might be a zombie.
Conscious people realize that if what they are doing isn’t working, they need to change what they are doing! But zombies keep doing the same thing over and over again, all while wondering why they keep getting the same results. And doctors promote it with weird zombie logic such as: If that last round of antibiotics was useless, let’s try another round of antibiotics and hope for a different outcome!
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Sign #4:
If you automatically do what you’re told by police officers and “authorities,” you might be a zombie.
A police officer shows up at your doorstep and politely asks, “May I come in?” A zombie says, “Sure!” and mindlessly opens the door. But an intelligent, conscious person knows this is a zombie mind trick that allows law enforcement officers to testify that you gave them consent to search your entire home. When a police officer asks to enter your home, they are not being polite. They are asking you to surrender your Fourth Amendment rights, and they are using clever social contracts to manipulate you into giving up those rights without you noticing. Don’t be a zombie! Know your rights! Learn more at FlexYourRights.com.
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Sign #5:
If you only read the front of food packages – and not the back – you might be a zombie.
While shopping at the local grocery store, you notice a package of cereal that claims to be “all natural” and says it may “lower cholesterol,” too. The back of the cereal box, however, may reveal that the ingredients are not organic, meaning they’re made with pesticides and GMOs. Zombies only read the marketing claims on food products. Conscious people read the ingredients and learn how to see beyond the marketing hype of dishonest food companies.
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Sign #6:
If all your savings are currently held in US dollars, you are almost certainly an economic zombie.
Thanks to the inflationary actions of the Federal Reserve, the US dollar is losing value with each passing day. Before long, it will likely collapse in value. As that happens, all the people left holding useless dollars (both physical ones or electronic ones in your bank account) will discover they have been acting like “economic zombies” because they put all their currency eggs in the same basket. Conscious people diversify their savings into land, real estate, gold, non-US currencies, corporate stocks and even barter items like silver dimes, storable foods, salt, sugar or common ammunition.
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Sign #7:
If you believe what you were taught in public school, you are definitely a zombie.
American scientists developed the nuclear bombs dropped in World War II, right? Wrong. It was Nazi scientists who processed the nuclear fuel and designed those first two bombs. (Read Rise of the Fourth Reich by Jim Marrs.)
Columbus treated the indigenous Indians with great friendship, right? Not exactly: He and his crews raped the female Indians, then tortured and murdered many of the males. To celebrate “Columbus Day” is to celebrate a mass murderer. (No wonder all the government workers get the day off!)
The federal government exists to protect the rights of the People, right? C’mon – today’s government goes out of its way to violate the Bill of Rights, violate federal law and destroy the very Constitution it was sworn to protect. For example, did you know the Obama administration runs a secret “kill list” of Americans to murder without any trial or due process? This has now been openly admitted and confirmed by the White House.
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Sign #8:
If you drink fluoridated tap water, you are a fluoridated zombie (which is, of course, the whole point of fluoride).
The Nazi war machine used fluoride as a mind-numbing agent to keep its population under control while it committed genocidal murder. Have you ever wondered for what purpose the US, Canada, Australia and other countries are now using the same chemical cocktail in the water supply?
The medical fiction that “fluoride prevents cavities” is a complete quack science hoax. Fluoride is actually a highly corrosive toxic industrial chemical, as revealed in hidden camera footage in the article, “Hidden camera water fluoridation video released by InfoWars” at NaturalNews.com.
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Sign #9:
If you find yourself rooting for any presidential candidate other than Ron Paul, you’re probably a political zombie.
Ron Paul is the only Presidential candidate who has offered a genuine balanced budget (all the other candidates want to keep spending us into financial oblivion). Ron Paul is the only Presidential candidate who stands firmly for health freedom, ending prohibition against medical marijuana, legalizing the farming of industrial hemp, and allowing nutritional supplement companies to make accurate, scientifically-validated health claims for their products. All the other candidates are just corporate puppets who have nothing to offer America other than a continuation of the problems that have driven our nation into economic and political turmoil.
To vote for Romney, Perry, Cain or even Obama is to mindlessly vote for continuing the same broken system of puppet presidents who answer to their corporate globalist masters (just like Bush).
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Sign #10:
If you think that Bigger Government is the way to solve the problems that have already been caused by Big Government, you might be a zombie.
Irrational faith in government is a sure sign of cognitive zombie-ism. As government itself is the cause of most of society’s problems – financial bankruptcy, political corruption, the waste of taxpayer money, the promotion of a culture of criminality, deadly health care monopolies and so on – it is completely irrational to think that MORE government can solve the very problems it has created!
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• Zombie Obamanomics, for example, is the practice of spending more government money to eliminate government debt – also known as “Zombienomics.”
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• Obamacare, also known as “Zombiecare,” is the practice of treating the health of the population with the very same medications and surgery that only “manage” disease symptoms rather than curing disease.
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• “Zombocracy” is what I call a government run by zombie politicians who are voted into office by zombie voters.
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• “Zombiflation” is the creeping upwards of prices on everyday goods at a pace too slow to be readily noticed by the zombie population. The Federal Reserve is constantly trying to create new money to expand the money supply at precisely the outer limit of Zombiflation.
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• “Zombruptcy” is what happens when zombie consumers go bankrupt and can’t pay their home mortgages anymore, at which point zombie banks take them over and try to sell them at reduced prices to other zombies.
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• “Zombie elections” are contests between two or more globalist zombies who compete to receive the highest number of votes from a mass of zombie voters, none of which have any real knowledge about the character or voting records of the zombie candidates they are electing into office. Zombie voters tend to vote for people based on what they look like. “We need a black president because skin color is what matters!” Or better yet, “We need a fat president, because he looks like the rest of the zombie Americans!”
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What about this instead? “We need a president who defends the Constitution and wants to stop the Federal Reserve from stealing more of our money!”
You can be a zombie for Halloween, but don’t be one in real life
This Halloween, I was thinking of walking around wearing a mask of Anderson Cooper, because I can’t think of a more frightening image of corporate-controlled zombie mindlessness. I could carry a microphone with the letters ZNN – Zombie News Network – and do interviews with “zombies on the street.”
Hey there, parents, did you know the high fructose corn syrup in the candies your children are sucking down tonight is made from genetically modified corn? Did you know the chocolate in those name-brand candies was harvested from cacao plantations using child labor? Did you know the artificial food coloring chemicals in the candy promotes symptoms of hyperactivity and ADD?
Ah, but you see, the parents don’t want to hear that, because they too are zombies. Who else lets their kids run around and collect bags full of mystery foods from the houses of total strangers?
By the way, it’s okay to appear as a zombie for Halloween if you want. Just don’t run around acting like a zombie in real life. Use your brain for a change… a global change!
Think about what you’re doing, who you’re supporting, what you’re buying, where you’re getting your information and what you choose to believe. Don’t be a sucker for mainstream news fictions, pharmaceutical propaganda, medical system quackery and political hucksterism. Always ask skeptical questions, always demand accountability, and if you catch yourself in one of the top ten zombie situations described here, get out and take back your brain as quickly as possible!
A daily dose of NaturalNews will shock your brain back to reality and has been clinically proven in scientific trials to reverse chronic zombie-ism.
Stucky says:
I scored a 90%. Missed out on #6.
I may be a prick …. but I’m NOT a Zombie! Or, a sheeple.
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22nd October 2011 at 12:40 pm
howard in nyc says:
i liked that. but he lost me on #8. fluoridated water and toothpaste has been a miracle in dental health and tooth longevity.
i am curious about those two nazi claims (fluordation and atomic bomb fuel processing, unless he is referring to scientists who escaped germany and later worked on the bomb).
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22nd October 2011 at 1:36 pm
newsjunkie says:
howard,
I’d love to know what you think about fluoride after reading these. My understanding is that pediatricians no longer recommend using fluoridated water for mixing infant formula.
http://www.fluoridealert.org/50-reasons.htm
http://jada.ada.org/content/142/1/79.full
http://www.slweb.org/fluoride-bone.html
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22nd October 2011 at 1:53 pm
howard in nyc says:
my opinion is based on very little. personal experience, and the lack of any huge negative society-wide effects after 60 years of widespread public fluoridation in the usa.
i will read those links. always interested in learning more.
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22nd October 2011 at 1:57 pm
Stucky says:
“The atomic bomb was invented by two refugee German scientists in Britain, Professor Rudolph Peierls and Otto Frisch, of Birmingham University. They designed a “blue-print” for making an atom bomb in 1940″
“It actually began when the Italian-born physicist Enrico Fermi, working in the United States, invented an apparatus which produced the first atomic chain reactions. In 1940 both the Americans and British were researching the atom bomb and when the United States entered WW2, the British joined the American “Manhattan Project” and production of the bomb went on ahead in the US.”
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22nd October 2011 at 2:03 pm
Stucky says:
1. Albert Einstein, in the year 1905, proposed the equivalence of mass and energy with the now famous expression .
2. Ernest Rutherford proposed in 1911 the atom as consisting of a core called nucleus, consisting of heavy protons surrounded by electrons. For the atomic bomb, it is only necessary to consider the nucleus. Around the same time, Neils Bohr and others developed quantum mechanics that deepened our understanding of the atom.
3. Henri Becquerel discovered spontaneous radioactivity in Uranium, and Pierre and Marie Curie explained and worked extensively on the concept. This was in the early 1900s.
4. James Chadwick in 1932 discovered that the nucleus also consisted of neutrons and soon, it was discovered that neutrons and protons are held together by a hitherto unknown kind of force called the ‘strong nuclear force’.
5. Enrico Fermi discovered in 1934 that you can bombard Uranium with neutrons and generate new elements and energy, in experiments that demonstrate Einstein’s mass-energy equivalence. This phenomenon is called ‘induced radioactivity’ as opposed to the spontaneous natural radioactivity discovered and studied by Becquerel and the Curies.
6. Lise Meitner, Otto Hahn, and Fritz Strassman in 1938 discovered the process of nuclear fission in Germany. THIS WAS THE EXPERIMENT THAT PERHAPS MOST DIRECTLY LED TO THE PHYSICS BEHIND THE ATOMIC BOMB. Soon after, this experiment was repeated with success in the US.
7. Leo Szilard, a US based Hungarian émigré, discovered in the 1930s that this ‘nuclear fission reaction’ can be cascaded into a self-sustaining chain reaction. This made atomic bombs theoretically possible. Around the same time, Frederic Joliot-Curie and Enrico Fermi also proposed designs for ‘nuclear reactors’- setups to implement nuclear chain reactions. Enrico Fermi later led the effort to build the first chain reactor on a modified squash court in Chicago in 1942.
At the policy level, around 1939, following the culmination of the above developments, physicists Leo Szilard, Edward Teller, and Eugene Wigner urged Einstein to write to Franklin D. Roosevelt, the then president of the US about the possibility that the Germans, then in conflict with the US, would be attempting to build an atomic bomb- a bomb based on the nuclear chain reaction and having enormous destructive capabilities. The letter delivered to FDR on October 11, 1939 asked FDR to take all steps to secure Uranium supplies from Belgian controlled Congo, and start a serious government effort to get the scientists together and provide logistical support to hasten the development of the physics, mathematics, and engineering leading to the atomic bomb. The letter can be seen at this link: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wiki…
This led to the Manhattan Project, a nationwide effort led by the facility at Los Alamos in New Mexico, which culminated in the development of the atomic bomb. Robert Oppenheimer was the scientific director of the Manhattan Project. The work that went on as part of the Manhattan Project was classified for several years, but with the developments and discoveries 1 through 7 above being in the public domain, it essentially meant that any country with sufficient money and expertise could eventually make an atomic bomb. The amazing thing about the Manhattan Project was that they were the pioneers, and made the bomb in just 5 years- an enormously significant achievement for someone doing it for the first time in the world.
http://www.quora.com/Who-invented-the-atomic-bomb
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22nd October 2011 at 2:07 pm
Stucky says:
Hoping AWD shares his thoughts on fluoride.
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22nd October 2011 at 2:10 pm
AKAnon says:
While I agree with most of the author’s points, if you blindly accept all his propositions without independently forming your own opinions, you are a blog zombie.
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22nd October 2011 at 2:14 pm
AKAnon says:
I am also interested in our good docs’ opinion on annual flu shots. I know smart folks who swear by them, others who swear at them.
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22nd October 2011 at 2:16 pm
howard in nyc says:
eh, a quick read through of those links do not impress me favorably.
an example–the hip fracture studies don’t seem to take into account higher community numbers of hip fractures related to longer life expectancy. people live longer–more hip fractures happen.
and not a word about ‘mind control’, as #8 in the article suggested.
i’m certainly open to the idea that mass fluoridation was not the smartest/best thing our society could have done for public health with that set of resources. i certainly have not seen significant ill effects of this public health measure. and tons of evidence to support the role in promoting dental health, to counter the scant studies and scare tactics presented by the first link.
my personal bias is based on my personal medical observations. i examine the mouth of every patient i see, to quickly assess the general condition of the teeth. because, in anesthesia, when we place any apparatus in the mouth to assist breathing, loose, damaged or diseased teeth can be damaged.
when i started in this business, in 1988, the vast majority of people over 65-70 years of age had false teeth. irrespective of income level; most people had lost all of their teeth.
gradually, over the 23 years i’ve been looking at teeth, now the vast majority of elderly patients have most or all of their teeth.
this correlates best (imo) with two societal factors–public fluoridation, and pushing milk in childhood.
sure this is not scientific. sure there are other societal and medical factors (much more available routine dental care; fluoridated toot paste and fluoride treatment by dentists, lots others).
and the most interesting data that link presents is rates of decrease in tooth decay in western countries that did not use fluoridation.
but that is the extent of my thoughts on the topic. well, and this guy:
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22nd October 2011 at 2:24 pm
Muck About says:
Good history lesson, Stucky… I’ve still got a small bowl of green glass that was the result of melted sand from the Trinity Site on White Sands that I picked up in the late 60′s.
I don’t exactly agree with the anti-flouride group nor the anti-vaccine crowd. I’m 74 (almost) and still have my own teeth and really don’t _feel_ too dumbed down. One thing I’m sure of.. My Mom’s genes resulted in a huge case of heredity baldness from which there is no cure!
I’m sad to say, some of the stuff lurking here and there on the internet is just plain trash..
MA
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22nd October 2011 at 2:26 pm
newsjunkie says:
Why I am now officially opposed to adding fluoride to drinking water
Dr. Hardy Limeback, BSc, PhD, DDS
Associate Professor and Head, Preventive Dentistry
124 Edward St., Toronto, Ontario, M5G-1G6
E-mail:hardy.limeback@utoronto.ca
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April, 2000
To whom it may concern:
Since April of 1999, I have publicly decried the addition of fluoride, especially hydrofluosilicic acid, to drinking water for the purpose of preventing tooth decay. The following summarize my reasons.
New evidence for lack of effectiveness of fluoridation in modern times.
1. Modern studies (published in the 1980′s 1990′s) show dental decay rates are so low in North America that the effects of water fluoridation cannot be measured. Because of the low prevalence of dental decay, water fluoridation studies today must be carefully conducted to correct for mobility of subjects between fluoridated and non-fluoridated areas, access to fluoride from other sources, the lack of blinding and problems with the `halo’ effect. Even when very large sample sizes are used to obtain statistically significant results, the benefit of water fluoridation is not a clinically relevant one (the number of tooth surfaces saved from dental decay per person is less than one half). Recent studies show that halting fluoridation will either result in only a marginal increase in dental decay which cannot be detected or no increase in dental decay at all.
2. The major reasons for the general decline of tooth decay worldwide, both in non-fluoridated and fluoridated areas, is the widespread use of fluoridated toothpaste, improved diets, and overall improved general and dental health (antibiotics, preservatives, hygiene etc).
3. There is now a better understanding of how fluoride prevents dental decay. What little benefit fluoridated water may still provide is derived primarily through topical means (after the teeth erupt and come in contact with fluorides in the oral cavity). Fluoride does not need to be swallowed to be effective. It is not an essential nutrient. Nor should it be considered a desirable `supplement’ for children living in non-fluoridated areas. Fluoride ingestion delays tooth eruption and this may account for some of the differences seen in the past between fluoridated and non-fluoridated areas (i.e. dental decay is simply postponed). No fluoridation study has ever separated out the systemic effects of fluoride. Even if there were a systemic benefit from ingestion of fluoride, it would be miniscule and clinically irrelevant. The notion that systemic fluorides are needed in non-fluoridated areas is an outdated one that should be abandoned altogether.
New evidence for potential serious harm from long-term fluoride ingestion.
1. Hydrofluorosilicic acid is recovered from the smokestack scrubbers during the production of phosphate fertilizer and sold to most of the major cities in North America, which use this industrial grade source of fluoride to fluoridate drinking water, rather than the more expensive pharmaceutical grade sodium fluoride salt. Fluorosilicates have never been tested for safety in humans. Furthermore, these industrial-grade chemicals are contaminated with trace amounts of heavy metals such as lead, arsenic and radium that accumulate in humans. Increased lead levels have been found in children living in fluoridated communities. Osteosarcoma (bone cancer) has been shown to be associated with radium in the drinking water. Long-term ingestion of these harmful elements should be avoided altogether.
2. Half of all ingested fluoride remains in the skeletal system and accumulates with age. Several recent epidemiological studies suggest that only a few years of fluoride ingestion from fluoridated water increases the risk for bone fracture. The relationship between the milder symptoms of bone fluorosis (joint pain and arthritic symptoms) and fluoride accumulation in humans has never been investigated. People unable to eliminate fluoride under normal conditions (kidney impairment) or people who ingest more than average amounts of water (athletes, diabetics) are more at risk to be affected by the toxic effects of fluoride accumulation.
3. There is a dose-dependent relationship between the prevalence/severity of dental fluorosis and fluoride ingestion. When dental decay rates were high, a certain amount of dental fluorosis was considered an acceptable `trade off’ of providing an `optimum’ dose of 1.0 ppm fluoride in the water. However, studies published in the 1980′s and 1990′s have shown that dental fluorosis has increased dramatically in North America. Infants and toddlers are especially at risk for dental fluorosis of the front teeth since it is during the first 3 years of life that the permanent front teeth are the most sensitive to the effects of fluoride. Children fed formula made with fluoridated tap water are at higher risk to develop dental fluorosis. A relatively small percentage of the children affected with dental fluorosis have the more severe kind that requires extensive restorative dental work to correct the damage. The long-term effect of fluoride accumulation on dentin colour and biomechanics is also unknown. Generalized dental fluorosis of all the permanent teeth indicates that the bone is a major source of the excess fluoride. The effect of this excess amount of fluoride in bone is unknown. Whether stress bone fractures occur more often in children with dental fluorosis has not been studied.
4. A lifetime of excessive fluoride ingestion will undoubtedly have detrimental effects on a number of biological systems in the body and it is illogical to assume that tooth enamel is the only tissue affected by low daily doses of fluoride ingestion. Fluoride activates G-protein and a number of cascade reactions in the cell. At high concentrations it is both mitogenic and genotoxic. Some published studies point to fluoride’s interference with the reproductive system, the pineal gland and thyroid function. Fluoride is a proven carcinogen in humans exposed to high industrial levels. No study has yet been conducted to determine the level of fluoride that bone cells are exposed to when fluoride-rich bone is turned over. Thus, the issue of fluoride causing bone cancer cannot be dismissed as being a non-issue since carefully conducted animal and human cancer studies using the exact same chemicals added to our drinking water have not been carried out.
The issue of mass medication of an unapproved drug without the expressed informed consent of each individual must also be addressed. The dose of fluoride cannot be controlled. Fluoride as a drug has contaminated most processed foods and beverages throughout North America. Individuals who are susceptible to fluoride’s harmful effects cannot avoid ingesting this drug. This presents a medico-legal and ethical dilemma and sets water fluoridation apart from vaccination as a public health measure where doses and distribution can be controlled. The rights of individuals to enjoy the freedom from involuntary fluoride medication certainly outweigh the right of society to enforce this public health measure, especially when the evidence of benefit is marginal at best.
Based on the points outlined briefly above, the evidence has convinced me that the benefits of water fluoridation no longer outweigh the risks. The money saved from halting water fluoridation programs can be more wisely spent on concentrated public health efforts to reduce dental decay in the populations that are still at risk and this will, at the same time, lower the incidence of the harmful side effects that a large segment of the general population is currently experiencing because of this outdated public health measure.
Sincerely,
Dr. Hardy Limeback BSc PhD (Biochemistry) DDS
Head, Preventive Dentistry
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22nd October 2011 at 2:29 pm
Stucky says:
The last time I took a flu shot was 1974. I was in the Air Force. I had no choice. I became sick as a dog for the next 4 days. Not a single fucking shot of any kind in 30+ years. I haven’t caught the flu SINCE.
We refused to give our kids any shots whatsoever. Not one. I guess we got away with it because we home-schooled. Except for a few sniffles and colds both boys have never been sick. We pretty much fed them as I was fed … cooking from scratch, hardly any junk food ever, no sodas or sugar, and exposed them to plenty of outdoor/exercise activities. THAT’S how you stay healthy … and not by filling your body with one horseshit drug after another.
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22nd October 2011 at 2:30 pm
howard in nyc says:
i have not studied or thought about flu shots very deeply.
i do not take them. haven’t for years. more a gut feeling than a scientific judgment. my gut is that less is better, and that i am not gonna die from influenza.
i recommend friends and loved ones at high risk (elderly and infirm, basically) that they do take the annual shot, but i do not press the issue.
professionally, i do not make a recommendation to my patients–not in the scope of my practice.
i do feel strongly that when they rush out a new, special flu shot, like they did for the recent bird flu, there is no fucking way am i going to take it myself. there was talk about a law requiring new york state doctors to take the shot. i was not going to do that.
i am in favor of childhood immunization, although similarly i am not familiar with the rational, scientific issues and controversies. but, this renown scientist and expert has two strong, compelling arguments:
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22nd October 2011 at 2:34 pm
Stucky says:
This bizarre story begins at phosphate mining companies.
Phosphate is an important mineral used in fertilizers. It’s mined from natural rock deposits scattered across the world, and the phosphate rock is then refined to produce phosphoric acid. If that name sounds familiar, that’s because it’s one of the main ingredients in carbonated sodas such as Coke and Pepsi. Phosphoric acid is often compared to battery acid. It’s a highly acidic liquid that is believed to be the primary reason why drinking sodas can result in kidney stones and a loss of bone mineral density.
Phosphate rock is also used to create fertilizers. The problem is, phosphate is often contaminated with high levels of fluoride — as much as 40,000 parts per million, or up to 4% of the raw ore. To remove the fluoride, sulfuric acid is added to a wet slurry of phosphate and water. This causes the fluoride to vaporize, creating highly toxic gaseous compounds such as hydrogen fluoride and silicon tetrafluoride.
These toxic fluoride chemicals used to be released directly from the smokestacks of phosphate mining operations, but the nearby farms suffered devastating losses of cattle and food crops which withered away and died due to… guess what? Fluoride poisoning.
In order to stop this environmental destruction, the phosphate mining industry put in place a way to capture the toxic fluoride chemical vapors so that they wouldn’t be released into the air and kill the surrounding livestock and vegetation. This was accomplished by installing “wet scrubbers” that captured the toxic fluoride chemicals, preventing them from being released into the environment and killing the plant and animal life living nearby.
It is from these wet scrubbers that toxic fluoride chemicals are now harvested. They’re collected, re-packaged, shipped to your local city, then dumped into the municipal water supply. So instead of these toxic fluoride chemicals being released by the phosphate mining smokestacks, they are instead captured, and then released into the water supply of large cities where the chemicals then contaminate the water of millions of people at a time.
This is called water fluoridation.
http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=42652E035A1B1BAAAE1F340B54694975
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22nd October 2011 at 2:43 pm
howard in nyc says:
i did not know that the hahn/straussman fission experiment predated fermi’s controlled chain reaction. i’m not even sure i thought hahn and straussman were still in berlin. guess i mixed up the dates in my head. or who was living where, and who shared data with whom in this big copenhagen conference just before the war. or i was properly propagandized.
something every day.
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22nd October 2011 at 2:50 pm
Stucky says:
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22nd October 2011 at 3:27 pm
Smokey says:
Unauthenticated specious garbage.
Cant, rant, and tomfoolery.
Rank speculation at best, deliberate lies at worst.
The worst kind of fiction—-uses the tone of an authority to push his political agenda.
This cocksucker claims Columbus raped and tortured the Indians. Was the cocksucker there to witness it ? For all the cocksucker knows, Columbus could have been gay.
The author sucks zombie cocks.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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22nd October 2011 at 3:38 pm
ecliptix543 says:
Fascinating conversations….
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22nd October 2011 at 3:41 pm
cv51 says:
You might be a zombie if you believe MG was a bad egg.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XorKTwkFPDU
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22nd October 2011 at 3:57 pm
KaD says:
You might be a zombie IF you don’t read naturalnews.com; the health equivalent of TBP.
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22nd October 2011 at 5:23 pm
Buddabull says:
No offense Stucky I thought I posted that link here yesterday. Maybe I am wrong getting old you know.
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22nd October 2011 at 7:11 pm
AWD says:
You might be a zombie if….you believe everything you read on TBP or the internet.
If fluoridation caused mind control, I’d be using it on unsuspecting women. Chiropractors tell people aluminum in cans causes severe brain damage, and, of course, they have products for sale to counteract it. It’s unbelievable what people will believe. Always money behind it.
If you’ve ever had the flu, you will forever take a flu shot. I had it once in residency, it was the sickest I’ve ever been in my life. I thought I was going to die. What you have ot remember is, like the pneumonia vaccine, it protects your from about 4 strains of flu (or pneumonia), when there are about 60 strains out there every year, plus mutations. The FDA does the best job they can, but they are the government, so you can decide for yourself.
We have the fucking Chinese to blame for influenza. They sleep with their cranes, chickens, geese, pigs, all their animals in their house. The viruses cross-polinate, as it were, and cross over to humans. Fucking filthy Chinese.
As I’ve said over and over, it’s just a matter of time until most of the world’s population is wiped out by a virus or resistant bacteria. The paranoid mothers coating their children in anti-bacterial gel, only breeding resistant viruses and bacteria. MRSA is getting away from us, and will eat it’s way through humans pretty soon. Drug companies aren’t even researching or developing antibiotics anymore, because the fucking HMOs won’t pay for new, branded medicines.
Stuck, it’s funny you’re receptive to what I and Howard say, but you clearly have an distinct anti-medical bent. Your not alone, which means you listen to all the real quacks out there who use specious research to support whatever ridiculous theory they decided to start running. People will spend hundreds of dollars at the chiropractor, but won’t take their $5 blood pressure medicine and get angry at their doctor (who prescribed the BP meds) when they have a stroke or heart attack. I don’t understand it. PT Barnum “there is a sucker born every minute.”
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22nd October 2011 at 9:47 pm
AWD says:
Speaking of zombies, I get an email today, pushing me into signing up for SS Disability….
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22nd October 2011 at 9:58 pm
newsjunkie says:
AWD,
I kinda like your positive spin. I’ve been afraid to drink water lately because of the fluoridation, so I’ve been relying on merlot instead…That might be a mistake.
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22nd October 2011 at 11:23 pm
AWD says:
Newsjunkie:
Forget worrying about fluoride. It’s tetrahexavalentbenzene and hundreds of other herbicide and pesticide chemicals found in more than 80% of the tap water in the U.S.
“Weed killers are commonly found in tap water as a result of agricultural runoff. In an Environmental Working Group Study, 28 out of the 29 cities tested had water supplies contaminated with many different weed killers that pose very serious health risks. An estimated 45,000 infants in these cities drank formula made with tap water contaminated by a number of weed killers. Of the many chemicals found in tap water, weed killers are particularly dangerous because they are used so frequently and in such high concentrations”
Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/1617682
Check out Environmental Working Group EWG.org, to find out more, if your interested, real science, not Stucky’s pop science.
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22nd October 2011 at 11:36 pm
newsjunkie says:
Thank you!
So is it better to drink bottled water regardless of the crap in the Chinese plastic bottles than to drink tap water with the weedkillers? Or should I stick with the merlot in leaded glass, scrubbing my arteries and wrecking my liver?
A girl just needs to know these things.
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22nd October 2011 at 11:44 pm
AWD says:
Come on over to my house, after a few bottles of Merlot, and we’ll discuss it….
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22nd October 2011 at 11:45 pm
newsjunkie says:
Shhh! Hubby’s in the next room!
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22nd October 2011 at 11:48 pm
AWD says:
NJ:
Ouch, sorry, I only drink bottled water, my liver can handle the chemicals in plastic. Your liver, or what’s left of it, might not be up to the job.
Don’t drink tap water, period.
Many herbicide and pesticide chemicals are carcinogens, intercolating agents. Very nasty shit.
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22nd October 2011 at 11:51 pm
AWD says:
Sorry, intercalating agents.
In chemistry, intercalation is the reversible inclusion of a molecule (or group) between two other molecules (or groups). Chemicals in tap water, via herbicides and pesticides intercalate into your DNA, which causes unlimited cell progression (cancer).
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22nd October 2011 at 11:56 pm
newsjunkie says:
I’m part Irish, so my liver should theoretically be genetically up to task. But what a fucked up world we live in, eh?
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22nd October 2011 at 12:01 am
AWD says:
Well, that explains your love for Merlot, and scotch, and guiness. Your liver is your friend, treat it nicely and it will save your ass. Yes, a fucked up world.
Can’t wait to see what the stuckenspieler has to say about all this. ha ha.
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22nd October 2011 at 12:12 am
Stucky says:
“Stuck, it’s funny you’re receptive to what I and Howard say, but you clearly have an distinct anti-medical bent.”
Not true. I believe doctoring is one of the most honorable professions ever.
What I abhor are DRUG COMPANIES and their endless array of fear based advertising to supposedly “cure” some 6.2 trillion diseases. I really love those commercials for Restless Leg Syndrome! Not. According to them we humans are just one gigantic disease factory … and they have a cure for every one. Just pop a fucking pill …. and pleae don’t worry that the side effect may be death!
I also realize they do much good. Ms. Freud is a cancer survivor. My dad takes heart medication to stay alive. But that doesn’t excuse their bad behavior, which is rampant, imho.
I also despise most of the Pscyhology/Pscychiatry profession. Ms Freudis is the exception, of course. The DSM-IV guide lists over a thousand mental “diseases”!! What a crock of fucking horseshit!!
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22nd October 2011 at 12:17 am
AKAnon says:
I have a high regard for “real” doctors. When I was a kid, my old man told me shrinks were all nuts-that’s why they go into the profession. No offense to Mrs. Freud. I’m inclined to think that is mostly true, although the breakthroughs in brain chemistry are pretty enlightening.
I used to belief chiropractors were quacks too, but I went to one after fucking up my back. He asked my symptoms, and he could finish my sentences for me-diagnosed me from the description, then confirmed on the table. Called me “easy money” while straightening my vertabrae. When he scheduled a follow-up visit, I was prepared for the “and once a week for the rest of your life” plan, but he said I was straightened out, and not to come back unless I fucked up again. I did, a year later, and I told I had the same problem-he checked me out and said nope, just strained muscles, nothing he could do for me except a few pills. I’ll go back to that one if I fuck up again, but I’m more careful with my back these days.
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22nd October 2011 at 2:32 am
AWD says:
Stucky:
I agree with you actually. Drug companies should NOT be allowed to advertise. It’s criminal, and drives up the price of medication for the average joe. Drug ads chap my ass worse than you can imagine, but nobody complains. Every time I see an drug company ad (or HMO ad) on T.V., I feel like I need a shower, it makes me feel dirty and polluted for being associated with it. You can buy Viagra for $1 outside the U.S., but here they are $8-$10. Americans love to pop pills though.
I was hoping you’d comment about the other stuff I presented, but you did your disease and psych rant. Okay, maybe later.
AKAnon:
The original chiropractors were D.O.’s, doctors of osteopathic medicine. If you have a D.O. as your doctor, you get all the regular medical treatments and all the benefits of a chiropractor. D.O.’s are in every specialty of medicine, from neurosurgery to family medicine. And they focus on treating the individual, not the disease state, so they employ a more holistic approach, which achieves better results. So, I recommend everyone find themselves a D.O. as a doctor, and you will be much better served. Especially you Stucky.
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22nd October 2011 at 11:13 am
DrPangloss says:
Dear Fellow Travelers,
Stucky is pretty smart. Maybe I should eat more like he does. At the same time, I think there might be a #7 Zombie lurking in your midst. The whole story of the Atomic bomb will be told someday but, face it, even Jim Marrs went to elementary school and it’s hard to shake that stuff off, I am sure you will agree. As to medical science, my grandfather put grandsons and nephews through medical school so he’d always have a doctor. He was lucky and lived to be a very old man. That said, he was a man of probity who didn’t take risks except for the occasional cigar. Lucky he didn’t live to read Dr. Barbara Starfield’s report on the state of the practice of medicine in the U.S. because then he would’ve been worried! If you wonder why her report didn’t make the headlines, all you have to do is read it. http://www.jhsph.edu/publichealthnews/press_releases/2011/starfield.html
When Richard Feynman was recruited at Cornell, he was given a physics problem and asked to figure out which method for making an A-Bomb was most likely to succeed. He did the math and decided that, of the two, A was the most probable and submitted his response inside the deadline. Later, as he reflected on the matter, he determined that he was in error and quickly informed his handler that B was the one most likely to produce a working A-Bomb. Laughing, his contact said that they had already figured that out but it was obvious that he understood the problem and so he was on the team! This is a very mild form of deception, but you can see where it leads.
Later on, as the Japanese threatened to surrender before we had a Bomb ready to drop, the best minds in America had encountered an intractable problem; the fuse/trigger didn’t work. All we had was a big, heavy, radio-active blank. Luckily, the Germans had also been working the problem and had perfected a mechanism that did the job perfectly. How did we find that out? It seems that a highly-placed Nazi had contacted someone over here and offered to hand over fuses/triggers and technology in exchange for a pardon and a safe-conduct, kind of like the Red August deal. Now, wouldn’t you think that if they had a trigger/fuse and knew what we were up to, it’s a pretty safe guess that they had a Bomb too?
Meanwhile, back at the Ranch, General Groves had his gauchies in a bunch trying to figure out how to make enough uncontaminated, enriched product to pop out more that one bomb by the deadline. Well, the Germans had figured that one out too. So, one may wonder why the Official History and the Intentional Dysinformation didn’t mention this? Easy, American ingenuity alone had to make the difference between us and THEM. Ignore the fact that many of the scientists working on the Bomb were recent immigrants, they were red-blooded Americans and the Nazis weren’t.
So, the deal was struck ( see http://saba.fateback.com/criticalmass/begin.html ), we got our loot and a Nazi walked. Some of you will be familiar with Charles Pellegrino’s recent disgrace for disclosing carefully-guarded secrets in his book about Hiroshima. It wasn’t enough to call him a fraud, they also had to prove that his sources lied to him and he lied to his publisher. That’s how important the Familiar Story is to the people who run things. The Japanese withheld the truth of their overtures to the Allies through Russia in order to maintain a shred of dignity by claiming they would never have surrendered if they hadn’t been nearly destroyed by the monster weapon of all time. We maintained more than a shred of dignity by never revealing how much we owed to German technology for the success of the Man in the Hat Project (Oppenheimer).
Little by little the truth comes out. I didn’t make any of this up but I do rely on public sources that present their information convincingly, supported by documentation and don’t contradict other sources that are equally-well documented. For example, Pellegrino’s debate with the University in New Zealand is well documented back to its origins. Clearly, he was awarded a PhD which was later revoked because of his widely-disseminated unpopular views. Today, the University claims that the degree was never awarded much less revoked. Reminds me of the story of how Michael Ruppert never worked for the LAPD except when he did. I guess they never lie and are just trying to save on pensions. When there are diametrically opposed statements, one must go with the better-documented alternative until otherwise demonstrated.
By the way, the girl in blue made my day. I could think of only one thing: lunch! I assume she’s unmarried and might accept my invitation.
Thanks for creating this forum, Jim. I’m with the occupiers too and remain optimistic in spite of the snowstorm. May they be protected!
—DrPangloss
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22nd October 2011 at 1:50 am
Patrick Lang says:
When you start mixing far-right political and economic ideologies with unsubstantiated medical claims against vaccination, you’re not a zombie, you’re a paranoid, delusional fool.
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22nd October 2011 at 11:40 am
Chicago999444 says:
I agree with all points except one.
Sorry, but VACCINES WORK. After declining the flu shot for years until I was laid low for two weeks with it in 2004, I finally started taking the shot every year, and haven’t been sick since, even though I use public transit and spend a lot of time in other crowded public places.
Only a population molly- coddled by a century of relative freedom from rampant epidemics that kill thousands of people so be so complacent about vaccines. Thankfully, most people are rational enough to perceive the benefits of vaccines, so the tree-huggers and hysterical mommas who decline vaccines can enjoy the blanket of protection offered by a relatively disease-free population
‘Tis said that a lie travels around the world in the time it takes the truth to put on its pants, which is why people still buy the idea that vaccines cause autism, even though the research that “proved” this has been thoroughly discredited, and the doctor who promulgated it, stripped of his credentials.
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22nd October 2011 at 12:04 pm
FBD says:
Chicago999444
Nice anectdotal story.
It sounds like you would be in favor of forcing vaccinations on people. If so, kindly go fuck yourself.
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22nd October 2011 at 12:18 pm
GJH says:
“You might be a zombie if….you believe everything you read on TBP or the internet…..Stuck, it’s funny you’re receptive to what I and Howard say, but you clearly have an distinct anti-medical bent.”
I agree AWD, there is a incredible amount of bad health info out there.
Still, I agree with I agree with Stuck’s reply completely.( On his point about the psychotropic meds, here’s an interesting vid presenting one point of view, strongly negative): Making a Killing: The Untold Story of Psychotropic Drugging: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDlH9sV0lHU
Medicine is, or should be, a highly honorable profession. But frankly, I hold it in the same regard as I hold economics right now–the national economy has shit-tanked, and so has the health of the general populace.
That’s not to say docs hold most of the blame. There are many interest groups that impact our health, among them pharmaceuticals, insurance, big ag, retail food, and the agro-chemical industry. And let’s not forget the brain dead people who make terrible lifestyle choices. Docs are besieged from all sides.
But if any professional group should be held responsible for the health disaster in the US, who if not the docs? As the ‘best and brightest’, so one would hope they would have done a better job of maintaining control of their profession (but, yeah, we’re in the midst of a massive group FAIL, so I know it’s pointless to expect docs to be better than the rest of us).
Thank god for the good doctors out there (and the good economists). But frankly, a good number of them are nothing more than glorified pill pushers.
Well, this is a large topic, and I’m no specialist so I can’t go toe-to-toe with you. I’ve got a biology education, and I’ve done a fair bit of reading, but I must admit I’ve given a lot more time over the last few years to reading up on the financial crisis and all related to it. But since Stuck didn’t rise to the bait, and you seemed to want someone to do it, I figured I’d step in. Hopefully we can have a good conversation on the topic soon.
But to give you an idea where I’m coming from:
-Show me where it’s demonstrated that aluminum is innocuous.
-Likewise about mercury in our mouths.
-Fluoride
–there are MDs that believe that the way we use these things is harmful. Others don’t. Being published in a peer reviewed journal is no guarantee of the quality of the info. One has to master the lit to reach a valid opionion. I haven’t done that. Have you? Meanwhile, I’ll just avoid mercury, fluoride, and aluminum.
-How about aspartame and msg in our food?
-How many people die from prescription drugs every year? How many from malpractice? Health problems are inevitable and docs aren’t omnipotent. But a number of the incidents of negligence and malpractice that my immediate family has experienced are inexcusable.
-What’s your position on fats? I don’t hear much from docs on this, but it appears to be very important.
or, from another angle,
–my grandmother died from complications related to osteoporosis. my mom goes to get her bone density tested. It’s low. So the doc prescribes boniva or fosamax, I forget which. Never told her to stay away from soda, for instance. No nutritional advice at all. I know, let’s just disable the osteoclasts!!! Pisses me off more than a little bit.
–a few years back I developed IBS. Doctors were unhelpful, and judging from the reading I’ve done, there are probably millions more out there being equally unhelped. I got smart and started reading up, which made clear the appallingly poor diagnosis, treatment, and advice I received. As I said, thank god for the good docs out there. I found Natasha Campbell-McBride’s ‘Guts and Psychology Syndrome’ to be very useful (for the guts, side of the issue, I don’t know anything about the psych side).
There is a blind spot in medicine with regard to nutrition and digestive health. In my cynicism, I can’t help but wonder if that’s not because it’s foundational to good health. Not saying the docs are thinking this. But who funds medical schools and sets the curriculum? Occam’s razor says this blind spot exists because it’s very profitable for the interests I mention above that impact on our health.
Well, that’s plenty of cans of worms opened.
My points in a nutshell:
1. Good health is fundamental to freedom, and we’re in bad shape on that score.
2. We need to take more control of our own health because the medical system has been warped just as surely as our economy has been.
PS – Thanks for the advice on D.O.s
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22nd October 2011 at 8:53 pm