Connect the Dots
Posted on 15th March 2012 by Administrator in Economy |Politics |Social Issues
Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, Fox News, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Neo-cons
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TeresaE says:
Things like this really make you question the “official” story behind 9-11.
TPTB NEEDED it. Needed it bad. Needed it to cover up job losses (that had NO replacement), needed it to cover up importing foreign new-grads to drive down wages of our grads, needed it to cover up the gutting of our productive/small biz society to usher in the new deal of banks, health care and government getting the bulk of the money, with little to dole out to us.
The Patriot Act was written LONG before October 2011, bet these warmongers have their fingers all over that shit.
Sickens me how easily we bend to their whims and believe their bullshit.
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15th March 2012 at 12:22 pm
Stucky says:
Teresa
I don’t think those are the dots Admin wants connected.
Peace.
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15th March 2012 at 12:36 pm
Yojimbo says:
From this video I can see the motivations of the “dancing Israelis” that were arrested in NYC on 9/11.
Funny, how they just happened to be filming and watching the towers as they collapsed, then “danced” after they fell…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X63CQ-dXkwU
On this video, the Israelis say that their purpose was to “document the event.” How did they know there was going to be an event?
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15th March 2012 at 12:45 pm
Stucky says:
Partial transcript of an Israeli talk show with Netanyahu …. who treats America like his sock puppet.
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Netanyahu: “The Arabs are currently focusing on a war of terror and they think it will break us. The main thing, first of all, is to hit them. Not just one blow, but blows that are so painful that the price will be too heavy to be borne. The price is not too heavy to be borne, now. A broad attack on the Palestinian Authority. To bring them to the point of being afraid that everything is collapsing…”
Caller: “Wait a moment, but then the world will say “how come you’re conquering again?”
Netanyahu: the world won’t say a thing. The world will say we’re defending.
Caller: A”ren’t you afraid of the world, Bibi?”
Netanyahu: “Especially today, with America. I know what America is. America is something that can easily be moved. Moved to the right direction.”
Caller: “They say they’re for us, but, it’s like…”
Netanyahu:” They won’t get in our way. They won’t get in our way.”
Caller: “On the other hand, if we do some something, then they…”
Netanyahu: “So let’s say they say something. So they said it! They said it! 80% of the Americans support us. It’s absurd. We have that kind of support and we say “what will we do with the…” Look. That administration [Clinton] was extremely pro-Palestinian. I wasn’t afraid to maneuver there. I was not afraid to clash with Clinton. I was not afraid to clash with the United Nations. I was paying the price anyway, I preferred to receive the value. Value for the price.”
Netanyahu then boasted about how he made a mockery of the Oslo Accords and manipulated the United States.
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15th March 2012 at 12:49 pm
ron says:
For certain people to expand their agenda and power,911 was like an dream come true.
If i were a jew surrounded by muslims that wish me dead i would want the usa to be my buddy to.
Ive noticed many articles labeled neocon,im not sure what it means but the article has a definite
dislike for jews and neocons? I think theres plenty of people with an agenda pushing certain actions,wars.I think following the money would show you who.
The greed and corruption surrounds us all as people well do anything to anyone to make money.Every time i turn on the news i see the propaganda pushing for war.
My family were freedom fighters against the nazis.They watched people get marched off to the trains.So to read anti jewish stuff even to this day dosent come off well with me.
Im very skeptical of anything in the media or said by our government,some person wants a desired reaction.I see little objective reporting.
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15th March 2012 at 1:30 pm
TeresaE says:
Stucky says:
Teresa
I don’t think those are the dots Admin wants connected.
Peace.
Oh I know Admin’s feelings on 9-11 “truthers.” And I’m not really one of them, don’t know enough in depth to stand up and declare my feelings either way.
All I said, and have said for a long time, is that it was pretty freaking convenient, I don’t know how that part isn’t seen by all. We would have plunged ass deep into a huge recession if not for the buildup to war and homeland security. The amounts of federal largesse pouring into the country was huge and in large part ate up much of the educated & unemployed left awestruck after Jan 1, 2000 as they realized past duties were no longer required, foreigners were being flooded in to replace the jobs left, and then the dotcom boom. As of September 2001, millions of six figure jobs were gone or going away, and after some of them were brought back by homeland security.
That is all I’m saying. It was really fucking convenient to hide the theft of the middle class with fear and war.
Maybe it is a coincidence, maybe not. I doubt any of us will ever be privileged to know the absolute truth.
Meanwhile, fiat on and peace to you too,
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15th March 2012 at 2:07 pm
Cynical30 says:
Teresa:
I tend to agree with you. Do I think the US government planned 9/11? Probably not. Do I think they’re lying to us about the whole story or what actually happened? ABSOLUTELY. The argument is that the gov’t is too grossly inept to pull off something like 9/11. Ok I buy that. Still, I definitely don’t put it past those fuckers to spin cycle the story beyond what is truthful to hide gross negligence and monumental ineptitude. The only thing that’s keeping this empire glued together at this point is ignorant confidence by the masses that the government actually has things under control, when the truth of the matter is despite the fucking humiliating shitshow performed by your local, out of shape Bush/Obama Blue Shirts, if a group really wanted to pull off another massive attack in this country there really is no effective mechanism in place to stop them.
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15th March 2012 at 6:11 pm
bigargon says:
I call BS on a lot of this. while the Kistols’s are A-Holes , the implied “jewish plot’ in all this is ridiculous. If anything our foreign policy over the last 15 years as made things more difficult for Israel. This has much more to due about keeping the oil flowing.
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15th March 2012 at 6:54 pm
Zara says:
There is no doubt that the hand of Mossad was involved in 9/11. They were also involved in the ’79 Iranian revolution. Do you seriously think for a second that Israel wants a free and prosperous Iran that would dominate the middle east (as it has several times in the past)?
I don’t know what it will take, but we have to come to grips that Israel is our enemy, and not just our enemy, but our greatest enemy.
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15th March 2012 at 6:57 pm
Stucky says:
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15th March 2012 at 7:09 pm
Zara says:
Stuck, get over the Jew crap. Israel is a secular government but not just any government but one that has numerous very wealthy and influential supporters who are quite content to undermine America in the pursuit of it’s interests, which is mainly Eretz Israel. It wouldn’t matter if it was a Jewish state or an Eskimo one. Fuck, Gingrich has received 20 million thru his superpac from billionaire Sheldon Richman who himself didn’t even give a crap about Israel until he married a young hot rabid zionist bitch (ever seen a picture of Richmond)?
Israel is enemy #1 because if you don’t toe the Likud party line, a lot of extremely powerful forces in this country are all over your ass. Those pricks even murder their own if you recall Yitzhak Rabin. Anti-semitism charges are just bullshit propaganda and brainwashing to obscure the truth. Meanwhile Tehran synogogues are doing just fine, despite sanction-induced Iranian hyperinflation is ravinging the savings of Iranian Jews. Thank Yahweh that the Jewish state is looking out for their interests.
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15th March 2012 at 1:46 am
sensetti says:
I avoided most of the status post 911 conspiracy conversation. But some time back I saw a video clip on that third building that fell straight down on top of itself having not been hit by a plane and damn that did not look right. That one clip made me question the official story line for the first time. So now I don’t know what to believe, that puts me at my baseline, perfect.
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15th March 2012 at 7:47 am
Stucky says:
sensetti
Building 7 was hit by thousands of tons of debris from WTC1. There were numerous large fires that burned without sufficient water to prevent structural damage. Building 7 was constructed with a small number of large columns providing an open Atrium on the lower levels … the destruction of just one or two of them leading to collapse.
Of course conspiracy theorists will never believe ANYTHING they are show that could possibly alter their views. Such is life.
Check out the link below from Structure Magazine. A reliable unbiased 3rd party.
Unless, of course, one believes that they too are part of the hundreds of people/firms secretly paid off and conspiring against truth ……. which in and of itself takes an enormous amount of faith that more than 2 people can actually keep a secret for years on end!
http://www.structuremag.org/Archives/2007-11/SF-WTC7-Gilsanz-Nov07.pdf
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15th March 2012 at 10:20 am
Stucky says:
Zara
I knew that picture would get under your skin. lol
My main beef with your comments are that Israel is our NUMBER ONE enemy. That’s just foolishness. Maybe you’ll change your mind if Russian or Chinese made nukes ever find their way to our country?
You accuse Israel ………..BUT then rail against Gingrich and “extremely powerful forces in this country”.
It’s a good point. So let’s think logically for a moment. Is it really Israel who is our enemy …..OR the forces in THIS country who ENABLE Israel to be a thorn in our side??
I suggest it is the latter.
Shalom.
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15th March 2012 at 10:27 am
Stucky says:
BTW Zara, I DID give you a thumbs up for your post. You are NOT my enemy. lol
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15th March 2012 at 10:28 am
Muck About says:
Anyone notice that “Chainsaw” Cheney cancelled a speaking engagement in Canada that was scheduled for the first week of next month sighting “security concerns”?
Straw in the wind folks. Don’t be traveling too far from home between now and the end of the second week of April. I smell burning shit in the air.
MA
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15th March 2012 at 1:05 pm