The Ron Paul followers are buzzing. Some people think his announcement yesterday was him calling an end to his candidacy for the Republican nomination. Others are vehemently saying that is not true. The internet debate is hot and heavy. Some shrew unfriended TBP on Facebook because I dared post a Throwing in the Towel story that was just his actual announcement. Avalon yelled at me. Ron Paul supporters are the most passionate supporters in the country. Everyone knows that. They are also the most intelligent political faction in the nation. They will never say die. And they shouldn’t. His message and solutions are what this country needs. His message of liberty and freedom are eternal.
Ron Paul is a smart man. He knows he will not be the Republican nominee. The establishment chose Romney months ago. The media crowned him months ago. The delegate strategy is brilliant and valiant, but it will not get him the nomination. The Ron Paul people will most certainly cause a ruckus at the convention but the party bosses and the corporate media will make sure the American public does not witness the dissent. Ron acknowledged in many interviews that he is unlikely to win. But that really doesn’t matter. His devoted followers make up approximately 10% of the voting population. This upcoming election is likely to be decided by 2% or 3%. We have the power to sway the election.
Which brings us to the question.
What is Ron Paul’s strategy and plan regarding the 2012 election?
- He still thinks he can win the Republican nomination through a delegate strategy.
- He wants to gather enough delegates so that he can get some of his ideas into the national platform.
- He wants enough delegates so that he can threaten to run as a 3rd party candidate so he gets a major speaking role at the convention.
- He plans to run as a 3rd party candidate.
- He wants to get like minded people into various state, local and Federal positions so that he can set the table for Rand Paul winning the Presidency in 2016.
- He is just throwing in the towel, will throw his support behind Romney, and go off into the sunset.
- Ben Bernanke promised him $10 million in gold if he would drop out.
- Ben Bernanke threatened him with an untimely demise if he didn’t drop out.
- None of this matters anyway, since our economic system will surely collapse during the term of the next president.
Petey says:
Either 4 or 7
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15th May 2012 at 8:34 am
Petey says:
I’ll go with 4.
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15th May 2012 at 8:35 am
efarmer says:
5 would work except we’ll be over the cliff by then.
In my mind, nothing is more important than making sure a Marxist isn’t in charge when it goes over the edge. He would change the structural core of the country and we’d never go back.
EF
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15th May 2012 at 8:39 am
avalon says:
Omigosh…I did not yell at you. You need to develop a thicker skin… so sensitive…..lol
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15th May 2012 at 8:46 am
avalon says:
Happy Birthday btw!!!!
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15th May 2012 at 8:51 am
Administrator says:
This is the look I got from Avalon after posting Throwing in the Towel
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15th May 2012 at 8:52 am
Administrator says:
I can’t wait for my present.
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15th May 2012 at 8:53 am
crashandburn says:
1(a)
RP goal has been achieved .He ‘s got the liberty message out and has made it popular with the youth.The future of America is not with the next corporatist jackass to ascend the cherry blossom throne, but with the youth.
They are the future.
RP has won the future.
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15th May 2012 at 8:53 am
Oscar Mannheim says:
Combination of 2 and 5. I believe Dr. Paul knows he is the libertarian Moses, not destined to lead his people into the promised land. Without him, however…
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15th May 2012 at 8:54 am
FT says:
No one picked 9 yet? That’s the most certain choice.
I think 6 is the least likely myself.
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15th May 2012 at 9:09 am
sensetti says:
2 & 5
We need change now and Dr Paul is completely aware of the consequences of four more years of decay. He will use his influence in any capacity available to him to try and save what’s left of this country for future generations.
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15th May 2012 at 9:15 am
Muck About says:
2 and maybe 9. He’s too honest for a number of those choices.
MA
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15th May 2012 at 9:21 am
Drtypierat says:
Interesting that RP had breakfast at the Fed last week, but optimistic RP followers are hoping for 2-5 but things are past reform, it is absolutely 9.
Or 10. The country as a whole is so fubarred, it needs to break up into provisions that arent so large, so that normal intelligent citizens can keep the leviathon under wraps.
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15th May 2012 at 9:23 am
Muck About says:
@Admin: You hit the BIG 50? I’ll trade years with you in a heartbeat (of which I have far fewer).
MA
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15th May 2012 at 9:24 am
Thinker says:
Happy b-day, Admin!
Regarding the poll, I’m going to answer “none of the above.” You know I think RP is our Grey Champion… he’s the older statesman who points out what’s broken and encourages everyone to rise up and do something about it. He appeals to rational thinkers on the left and the right. People will write his name in on ballots from all spectrums — Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Independent.
But, ultimately, his value will be in inspiring Americans to rise up against corrupt politicians, oligarchs running the corporations that control our governing system, and the worthless government drones who don’t do the job of regulating them. Who will refuse to allow fascism to take hold here. Who will demand accountability in leaders at all levels. Who will lead our next revolution.
Ron Paul got us started. He raised awareness. He sowed the seeds of regeneracy. It’s up to us to tend them and make them grow into a more sustainable future.
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15th May 2012 at 9:32 am
Hope@ZeroKelvin says:
Time to fully Embrace the Doom.
It is #9.
RIP American and Godspeed RP.
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15th May 2012 at 9:33 am
Administrator says:
Muck
I DID NOT HIT THE BIG 50!!!!!
I have 365 more days.
Robmu1 is the 50 year old.
I’d trade for your wisdom and life experiences.
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15th May 2012 at 9:37 am
Administrator says:
Thinker
I hope you are right. It looks bleak now, but it always looks bleak during 4th Turnings. He has inspired millions. Hopefully, it will spread like wildfire especially among the Millenials.
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15th May 2012 at 9:40 am
Golden Tool says:
Didn’t he just have dinner with Brother Ben?
Come on this is like Rome. You can go up against the powers as long as you have no shot of winning. You can say whatever you want until people start listening. Why was Newt there, so a true dialogue didn’t have to be opened between Paul and Romney on live television. Same with Santorum. The controls are too large and very firmly in place.
This is old Roman Empire stuff.
You fall on your sword so your family can continue on in the halls of power, or everyone gets wiped out. This is what happens when you try and take power. If you do it smart you can lose and stay in the game. We are more civilized now it doesn’t usually involve actual death. Not since the Kennedy boys anyway. I’d say the barbarians are about 30-50 years away at this rate. Food riots haven’t started yet.
So my pick 2,5,7,8.
You say RP’s heart was in it, OK I’ll except you believe that. I think he was a temperature gauge on how much room TPB have to push agendas before people rebel. Rebellion isn’t main stream yet.
“Do unto others.”
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15th May 2012 at 9:49 am
Persnickety says:
#8 and #9 equally, with a 20% chance of #1.
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15th May 2012 at 9:50 am
AKAnon says:
2, 5, 8 & 9
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15th May 2012 at 10:20 am
FoxFire says:
4 – and I’ll write him in anyway. I usually write-in myself, but this year I think Dr Paul will
be the better choice.
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15th May 2012 at 11:19 am
matt says:
Admin,
Happy Birthday!
as for RP, I think that his getting attention towards his beliefs may be his biggest win anyway.
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15th May 2012 at 11:23 am
sensetti says:
Happy Birthday Admin !!
It’s 2 for sure.
Campaign statement
“We are in an excellent position to make sure the Republican Party adds solid liberty issues to the GOP Platform, which our delegates will be directly positioned to approve. Our campaign is presently working to get several items up for consideration, including monetary policy reform, prohibitions on indefinite detention, and Internet freedom”
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15th May 2012 at 11:39 am
Celtic Tiger says:
I think we are in an irreversible Collapse of Rome 2.0, so I go with 9. If things hold on a while longer, than 5.
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15th May 2012 at 11:44 am
Administrator says:
Unfortunately, barring something very unforeseen, our delegate total will not be strong enough to win the nomination. Governor Romney is now within 200 delegates of securing the party’s nod. However, our delegates can still make a major impact at the National Convention and beyond.
All delegates will be able to vote on party rules and allow us to shape the process for future liberty candidates.
We are in an excellent position to make sure the Republican Party adds solid liberty issues to the GOP Platform, which our delegates will be directly positioned to approve. Our campaign is presently working to get several items up for consideration, including monetary policy reform, prohibitions on indefinite detention, and Internet freedom.
Finally, by sending a large, respectful, and professional delegation to Tampa, we will show the party and the country that not only is our movement growing and here to stay, but that the future belongs to us.
Jesse Benton – Ron’s Campaign Manager
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15th May 2012 at 11:53 am
OF says:
I´m confused: didn´t I read somewhere reliable that he is saving the money and goes for the delegate strategy to bring as much disruption to the convention as he possibly can?
Aren´t his delegate numbers so that even a convention coup is within sight?
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15th May 2012 at 12:18 pm
Administrator says:
“Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts, these guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.”
– July 1st, 2004 — Mitt Romney
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15th May 2012 at 1:53 pm
Bob says:
I agree with Oscar Mannheim — #2 & #5 are his most likely motivations.
I believe there will be a Presidential Election in the United States in 2016, howerver many of the states are still united by then…I believe the ideas of Ron Paul will be much more mainstream in American politics by 2016.
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15th May 2012 at 2:57 pm
Zarathustra says:
5 and 9. Ron is looking long term. He believes that the movement he has created is the future. As for the present, to the majority of republipukes, he is Ron Lawl, the loon. Romney is the banksters bitch. The odds of him adopting any of Paul’s important position is zero. Doesn’t matter anyway, Romney will lose.
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15th May 2012 at 6:21 pm
SSS says:
2. I said as much back in the thread on “Throwing in the Towel?” Look, people, Ron Paul is the most focused and honest politician I have ever seen. He has been doing this for damn near 40 years. He is bound and determined to walk away from this process with SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL that advances his liberty agenda. He will accept nothing less. And I mean substantial. And that will occur through the platform process. It will NOT occur as a third party candidate, which essentially throws the election to Obama. BTW, Thinker finally got one wrong, and sensetti got it right.
5 is a red herring. Ron Paul doesn’t need to focus on that anymore. Why? Because it’s already being done by the Tea Partiers, who, despite MSM claims to the contrary, are still around and capable of kicking ass and taking names. Just ask Indiana Senator Dick Lugar. (And no, I haven’t forgotten that Ron Paul planted the seeds that sprouted into the Tea Party movement.) That said, you can bet your bottom dollar that Ron Paul will campaign for any like-minded candidate who invites him to a rally.
Sometimes my wisdom is overwhelming, as opposed to my golf game.
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15th May 2012 at 7:36 pm
ssgconway says:
I would like to believe that he’s stopping the active campaigning because he’s doing well enough with state party takeovers and delegate pick-ups to be able to get leverage that way. I can tell you that the MI GOP establishment is playing for keeps – a sign that they don’t think RP has surrendered. (John Paul Jones, anyone?)
Check out this excerpt from an e-mail the Party sent me after I was selected as a state convention delegate:
“…We have heard rumors of folks wanting to attend Convention for the purposes of disrupting the proceedings in both the District Caucuses & the General Session. While we welcome healthy and open debates among our delegates, we will not tolerate outbursts designed to create chaos and cause a disruption. Please carefully review the following language regarding access to the Convention.
Credentials are a revocable license. Admission may be refused or credential holder ejected at the sole discretion of MRP. MRP may refuse admission to, or eject, any credential holder without consideration who is deemed to be disorderly, or who fails to comply with these terms or any and all security measures. You and your belongings may be searched upon entry into the venue. If you consent to such searches, you waive any related claims that you might have against MRP. If you elect not to consent to the searches, you will be denied entry into the venue. Credential holder assumes all risks incident to the convention or related events, including the risk of lost, stolen, or damaged property or personal injury.
The credential holder grants to MRP and their designees the irrevocable permission to use his or her voice or likeness in any media now or hereafter existing in related events, for any purpose whatsoever, including the commercial or non-commercial purposes of MRP and its sponsors, Licensee, advertisers or broadcasters.
I look forward to seeing you in Detroit.
-Gary
Gary N. Koutsoubos
Deputy Political Director
Michigan Republican Party
520 Seymour St.
Lansing, MI 48933
W: 517-487-5413
C: 917-881-9508″
Nice…TSA treatment for Party activists. Do you think that they’ll get a lot of donations or volunteers to work the phones, do lit drops, etc., by treating us like suspects?
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15th May 2012 at 8:01 pm
Smokey says:
RP is planning to take a big shit on election day, just like me.
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15th May 2012 at 8:07 pm
Administrator says:
llpoh
Don’t you miss your fellow big dog – Smokey?
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15th May 2012 at 8:41 pm
SSS says:
“Smokey”
That’s pretty Smokeyesque if you’re a doppelganger (Stucky?). If you’re not, welcome back.
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15th May 2012 at 8:44 pm
llpoh says:
Admin – you have to admit, Smokey livens things up when. Sure, I would love to see him come by to deal with DaveL and his ilk. I smile just thinking about it.
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15th May 2012 at 8:45 pm
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SSS
Doppelganger. Smokey is too much of a pussy to cross paths with me again. He is still hiding in his bunker waiting for that terrorist attack and delusionally believing China isn’t imploding.
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15th May 2012 at 8:47 pm
Administrator says:
Smokey sure could liven things up. He is always welcome on TBP.
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15th May 2012 at 8:49 pm
Novista says:
7 can’t be a possibility — Ben has none of that ‘tradition’ stuff …
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15th May 2012 at 12:09 am