How sad is it that I actually have more faith in the impartiality of an article from Pravda than I do from the NYT or Wall Street Journal? Anyone who thinks attacking Iran will be a cakewalk and not have huge unintended consequences, is smoking dope. The Chinese and Russians do not want the U.S. and Israel in control of Iran and their oil. The potential for World War III has not been higher since the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962.
Iran to kick off World War Three
10.01.2012 17:00
The world is perhaps standing on the brink of another major war, which may kick off in Iran. Sources close to special services of different countries even come up with dates when the war may begin. The Southern Caucasus borders on Iran. Russia’s borders are near the country too. GeorgiaTimes and a scientist of politics of the Tbilisi State University (Georgia) tried to predict what consequences the armed conflict may lead to for separate countries of the region.
The war may begin when Israel strikes “nuclear” objects in Iran. The United States will support the attack. If it happens, the new large-scale war will become inevitable. Iran is not Libya, and not even Iraq. In addition, anti-Iranian enemies have failed to build the “axis of hatred” around Iran. Therefore, many countries in the region will support Iran either directly or by implication. In particular, it goes about China. Chinese President Hu Jintao stated that if the USA or any other country attacked Iran, China would take responsive measures immediately. As for Moscow, sources at Russia’s Defense Ministry said that the forces in the region had already been mobilized in case of a possible war.
Many Iranians come to Armenia, a republic of the former Soviet Union, for weekends. Women feel more liberated there, whereas men can drink cognac freely. The times, when Iran was separated from the Caucasus with the iron curtain of the Soviet Union, have become a thing of the past. Nowadays, for many residents of Armenia and Azerbaijan, Iran is not an exotic state at all.
Armenia and Azerbaijan only border on Iran; the countries can only careless about the problems of their neighbor. However, it only seems so. The war with Iran, if it ever happens, is not going to be a regional conflict.
Georgian scientist of politics, Solomon Lebanoidze, is pessimistic about the future of the region. As he said in an interview with GeorgiaTimes, the war in Iran is very likely to happen. “It may happen that this war may grow into World War III. No one is going to stay aside. There are many nuances here that will not give any country of the Caucasus an opportunity to remain a serene harbor,” the expert said.
Russia will obviously stand up against the war with Iran. It will not be possible for Russia not to be involved in the conflict. Russia may come into a military alliance with China in case of the conflict. The alliance may gradually develop into the anti-Western coalition of forces against Israel and the USA, if they get involved in the war too.
“If the war begins, the Russian army base in Armenia will find itself isolated. If it happens, Russia may try to take measures to make a corridor via Georgia, the expert believes. “Georgia and Iran have pragmatic and friendly relations. I believe that Georgia will try to play a passive role in the process,” the scientist of politics said.
According to the Nezavisimaya Gazeta newspaper, Russia is already concerned about the security of its army base in Armenia. Servicemen’s families have left the base, whereas the personnel have moved to another area, closer to the borders with Turkey.
The isolation of the Russian base in Armenia may push Azerbaijan towards another war for Nagorny Karabakh. “Azerbaijan may use Russia’s weakening position in Armenia and launch the war for the liberation of Karabakh. The way how the war develops depends on larger participants, such as the United States and Turkey. I do not think that the States will be passive in this situation,” the scientist of politics said.
For the Southern Caucasus, the war with Iran may resemble the time in the beginning of the 1990s, when the region was “depressurized” from its common condition. Many conflicts and wars sparked because of them, and many of them are still unsolved.
Anton Krivenyuk
GeorgiaTimes
AWD says:
“Anyone who thinks attacking Iran will be a cakewalk and not have huge unintended consequences, is smoking dope”
Or taking oxycontin, 75.2 tons (150,400 lbs) taken per year in the U.S.
or anti-depressants (A report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Center for Health Statistics found that 11 percent of Americans over the age of 12 takes an antidepressant)
or taking Valium/xanax/klonopin (benzodiazepine and tranquilizer drug use increased 279% from 1992 to 2011).
Boobus Americanus is too stoned, drunk, and drugged to care as they blankly stare at their T.V. and stuff their faces all day long.
It’s unbelievable we have to get truthful information from foreign press. Our country is finished, maybe they’ll take us as immigrants…
Well-loved. Like or Dislike:
16 
3
18th September 2012 at 2:09 pm
AWD says:
All I gotta say about the lying sacks of shit MSM is:
Иран объявит Третью мировую?
16.12.2011
Иран объявит Третью мировую?
Возможно, мир сейчас застыл на пороге новой большой войны – иранской. Источники, близкие к спецслужбам разных стран, даже называют конкретные сроки ее начала.
Like or Dislike:
4 
3
18th September 2012 at 2:10 pm
Stucky says:
Brand new billion dollar Russian subs explode and sink while docked.
Russia relies on old Migs. Can’t get parts for them. Maybe 10% are combat ready.
New Migs blow up during air shows.
We can beat Iran with one arm tied behind our backs, and we’ll use our feet to kick Russia in the balls. No contest. USA wins in 3-4 weeks. Tops. You guys are such wimps.
Hot debate. What do you think?
7 
21
18th September 2012 at 2:29 pm
Stucky says:
Looks like Al Quaeda is telling their people to kill American diplomats and politicians where ever they may be found.
I hope that doesn’t include Washington DC. That would be turrible. Just, turrible.
Well-loved. Like or Dislike:
19 
0
18th September 2012 at 2:33 pm
Hollow man says:
During that 3 weeks, China gets things rolling.
Well-loved. Like or Dislike:
7 
0
18th September 2012 at 2:46 pm
AWD says:
HM
Chinese attacked the U.S. Embassy in Beijing, further pushing the U.S. as allies to Japan. Compared to war with China, Iran is a kindergarten side-show.
Score 1 For Japan As Chinese Protest At US Embassy In Beijing
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 09/18/2012
Between the anti-Japanese tensions and the converging dominance of the Japanese with the Chinese to our fiscal status quo, it seems the Chinese are increasingly pushing the US hand to supporting the Japanese. Via Ai Weiwei, contemporary Chinese artist, the US Embassy in Beijing is under protest by the Chinese marchers demanding “Pay Back The Money” and “Down with US Imperialism”. Some embassy cars were attacked – apparently on the back of the US role in the China-Japan tensions.
The question now is what happens to China’s Treasury holdings? They already threatened Japan with economic sanctions and now the populist view is turning anti-American at a time of new leadership. We assume they will continue to sell down their USD-based Treasury holdings and convert to Gold as they have been for the past year. With 2 months until the election, this will be an interesting distraction of global importance as the US is forced to support Japan or throw them under the bus.
Like or Dislike:
3 
1
18th September 2012 at 2:54 pm
John Angelo says:
I’m not concerned about Iran, per se. They currently don’t pose much of a direct physical threat to the US. What gives me pause is Iran’s response to Israel, both directly and through its proxies, and then Israel’s counter to Iran’s response.
Here’s a plausible scenario: the US and Israel take out Iran’s nuclear capabilities in relatively short order. Iran responds directly and/or through its proxies by attacking the cultural and population center of Israel: Tel Aviv. The Syrian regime, eager to restore legitimacy, along with Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in the West Bank see an opportunity and join the fracas against Israel. Israel counters by crushing said adversaries (Syria to a great extent, Iran lesser so). In the meantime, prepare or $5-$6/gallon gasoline in the US and a lot of posturing from Russia. If there’s ONE THING that could unite the unruly Muslim nations (alongside Russia), it’s hostility towards the US as Israel. After a period of relative calm (compared to the previous activity), Israel faces a Russian led Islamic invasion the likes of which has not been seen before in Israel’s history since statehood in 1948.
Well-loved. Like or Dislike:
8 
3
18th September 2012 at 2:56 pm
AWD says:
“Chinese President Hu Jintao stated that if the USA or any other country attacked Iran, China would take responsive measures immediately”
Very interesting. Push and threaten the U.S. and Japan, isolate the U.S., and wait for the U.S. or Israel to attack Iran, then the Chinese have open season on Japan and the 53,000 troops stationed in S. Korea and Japan.
Not to worry, we have Hillary Clinton to smooth things over, and Barry H. Obama, noted statesman with months of foreign policy experience, and a Nobel peace prize to boot. I’m sure they know what they’re doing, just look at Libya and Egypt! (He earned that Nobel peace prize, it’s obvious to me).
Well-loved. Like or Dislike:
15 
3
18th September 2012 at 3:01 pm
AWD says:
The question really comes down to, to prevent a nuclear Iran,
Who will use nukes first, the Chinese against the U.S., or the U.S against China?
Hot debate. What do you think?
5 
4
18th September 2012 at 3:04 pm
AWD says:
“Chinese President Hu Jintao stated that if the USA or any other country attacked Iran, China would take responsive measures immediately”
Hot debate. What do you think?
8 
5
18th September 2012 at 3:06 pm
John Angelo says:
I forgot to add, while I think the US will help in the upcoming *kinetic activity* if you will with Israel, it’ll be the last direct American involvement in the Middle East for some time due to a country facing internal strife, deeply in debt, and weary of war.
Well-loved. Like or Dislike:
10 
0
18th September 2012 at 3:18 pm
John Angelo says:
AWD, how about China dumping a few hundred billion of US Treasuries as an immediate responsive measure?
Well-loved. Like or Dislike:
24 
0
18th September 2012 at 3:21 pm
youcanthavemyglock says:
@AWD, LOL nice pic
As a responsible member of Free Shit Army I have used my EBT card to purchase large amounts of Osmium and Iridium to shield myself from radiation/gamma rays that Mister Hu Jintao might unleash on me.
/Forward 2012
Like or Dislike:
5 
1
18th September 2012 at 3:34 pm
9/12 says:
There will be wars, and rumors of wars…
Well-loved. Like or Dislike:
11 
0
18th September 2012 at 3:42 pm
AWD says:
“protests by the Chinese marchers demanding “Pay Back The Money”’
That’s some funny shit. I think they were talking directly to Ben Bernake. Bubble boy is inflating away their money, and they want it back before it becomes worthless. But hey, they were dumb enough to use their Wal Mart trillions to buy our IOU’s, so we could borrow more, so the FSA could shop at Wal Mart.
Like I said in a previous post, the Chinese can wipe us out financially by dumping their treasuries. With dollar values rapidly approaching zero, what have they got to lose?
Well-loved. Like or Dislike:
11 
0
18th September 2012 at 3:58 pm
TeresaE says:
What a clusterfuck, ‘eh?
What most fail to realize – and somehow I believe our “planners” are missing it to – is that without Russia and China being our frenemies, we could (quickly) wake up in a world without basic necessities.
Russia owns the pipelines in Canada (how much of our fuel comes from there? how much more would we need if the Strait of Hormuz is shut down?), China owns us from dollars, debt, toilet paper, insulin, aspirin, antibiotics, socks, diapers, frozen foods, etc., etc. Won’t even mention the nuts, bolts, steel, copper, computer chips, that we would need if in a war.
This shit makes me start to believe that we are being destroyed from within, on purpose.
How can a bookkeeper from the Midwest realize how dependent we are, yet the academics and politicians haven’t a clue?
Has there EVER been a major war battled (and won) by the side that depends on the other for war supplies?
Well-loved. Like or Dislike:
18 
0
18th September 2012 at 4:06 pm
Mr. Happy says:
I’m surprised there isn’t some big fucking march heading towards Washington D.C. Do the students not realize that if Israel tells Congress to reinstate the draft they will and A.I.P.A.C will write up the bill?
Well-loved. Like or Dislike:
11 
1
18th September 2012 at 4:45 pm
David says:
“This shit makes me start to believe that we are being destroyed from within, on purpose.”
The country has been taken over. It has been bought off. Large sums of money pass to those who vote in favor of the elite’s wishes. Obama or Romney, it doesn’t matter what puppet is supposedly in charge. Figureheads, nothing more. Thomas Jefferson had it right when he talked about the banks. He knew the dangers. Big money runs the show and little debt slaves with little shovels follow behind the big animals scooping up what shit they can survive on.
Well-loved. Like or Dislike:
14 
0
18th September 2012 at 4:45 pm
Colma Rising says:
Looky looky little pipeline!
Cheap Iraqi oil goes through where? Not to the US…
Oil=Rubber Dog Shit
No rubber dog shit, no Shitty jobs in China. No shitty jobs in China=Mad mad China.
I don’t know about that treasury dump. If it does happen…..
Well-loved. Like or Dislike:
5 
0
18th September 2012 at 4:54 pm
LGB says:
FYI, the article is not from the Russian POV or from Pravda…its Georgian from the Georgia Times written originally in Georgian by a Georgia Times journalist with online translation available in English and Russian. Georgia and Russia are enemies (remember the war in 2008?). Don’t let a Georgian hear you calling him a Russian!!! However there are some great articles about the subject available in English in the Moscow Times, as well.
Well-loved. Like or Dislike:
7 
0
18th September 2012 at 5:33 pm
IraK says:
That’s mighty bold talk from Pravda, a government newspaper from a splintered state that can’t even project her power boyond her borders anymore. And all you tremblechins believe it I suppose? The United States and Israel have done very well by being powerful and pushy. What’s worked will continue to work if we don’t get weak-kneed. Attack Iran I say and keep threatening and intimidating Russia and China. They’ll back down.
Hot debate. What do you think?
1 
14
18th September 2012 at 6:17 pm
olengo says:
Strategic counter measures
If the US-Israel axis is shortsighted enough to initiate an Iran attack, Russia and Pakistan(maybe under Chinese influence) have the strategic option to arrange a few accidents cutting off the northern and southern supply lines to Afghanistan. This would instantly provide the US with an acute and overwhelming problem on another frontier, and what countermeasures does it have? Further, if the Afghans suddenly got Stinger-alike anti-aircraft rockets, helicopter transports inside Afghanistan would be threatened.
ISAF in Afghanistan might end up in a Saigon-like situation.
Well-loved. Like or Dislike:
7 
0
18th September 2012 at 6:18 pm
TeresaE says:
Wow IraK, I so hope you are a joking doppleganger.
What is your obsession with seeing our children murdered while watching the nightly news deliver the (obviously) hard-on inducing pictures of war dead and destruction?
For fuck’s sake, we are BROKE. Morally, financially, ethically.
The LAST thing we need is more war.
If there is a god, I truly hope that you not only believe in him, but that he is true to his word when it comes to the likes of you and those like you.
Well-loved. Like or Dislike:
12 
0
18th September 2012 at 6:27 pm
Mr. Happy says:
TeresaE agree with you 100% plus this. Israel will not survive this holocaust. From what I read Iran is well stocked with pointy things that have absolute accuracy from China, Russia, Ukraine and even the Swiss. If I were an Israeli I’d get the fuck out of there like now and I bet they are.
Like or Dislike:
3 
2
18th September 2012 at 9:56 pm
Bruce says:
If we get involved in an Iran war we will get sideways with China real quick. And when we do just how are were going to get drywall screws, tools, socks, underwear and shoes and most everything else. That’s probably why we haven’t bombed the shit out of Iran so far. To many corporate campaign contributors have too much tied up in Chinese manufacturing to upset the apple cart over Iran.
You’d think Nazi Israel would figure this out and cool down the war mongering with Iran and just keep on blowing up Palestinian trash and jacking with Lebanon to help keep the arms industry in the black. Nobody really care about those people so things won’t get out of hand if you jack with them.
Hell I’m already worried about where I’ll get my Bluejeans. I buy Schmidt bluejeans at Tractor Supply and they are manufactured in Egypt. Those Egyptians make lots better bluejeans than Asians and Egypt is going ape shit. We sure don’t need to fuck up the supply from China unless we can tool up and crank out affordable stuff overnight. Maybe when wages get down to $2 per hour with no benefits, (or inflation achieves the same thing) with little to no government assistance we can get poor welfare people back to work in the factories so they can live in retched squalor and borderline starvation and pay for it themselves.
Like or Dislike:
4 
3
18th September 2012 at 10:21 pm
Stigmation says:
Wanna know what happens next? Read Revelations. So far it’s been pretty accurate. America play little to no part in the end times. The only question is how we are taken out. My guess is an EMP. No SNAP cards, or ATMs = game over for USA.
Like or Dislike:
1 
0
18th September 2012 at 9:28 am
Administrator says:
“I know what America is. America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction. They won’t get in their way.”
-Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, 2001
Like or Dislike:
3 
0
18th September 2012 at 10:33 am
Nonanonymous says:
@Bruce, it would solve our employment woes.
Like or Dislike:
1 
0
18th September 2012 at 10:56 am
Ron says:
Well if Iran and Israel do a good enough job we can pull out of there.I think China can demand payment and put a big hurt on us.I think a war with Iran well be much worse for the usa than stated.I think gasoline would be more like 8 or 10 bucks a gallon.Our country is in such bad shape we dont need any more problems.
Like or Dislike:
3 
0
18th September 2012 at 2:50 pm
propher4profit says:
H
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
18th September 2012 at 9:50 pm
propher4profit says:
We will end up in a war with Iran after Israel attacks because Iran will immediately try to close the straight of hormuz and prompt us to defend it. Also, Iran has publicly stated any attack by Israel will be considered a US/Israeli attack.
Iran can be destroyed very swiftly. We aren’t talking about an occupational war, this will be a bombing Iran campaign of destroy and let them sort out the mess. As for Syria and Egypt, they are part of irans plan to counter strike. If anybody has heard, Egypt has placed tanks and chemical weapons I. Sinai to “smoke terrorists out”. Of course anyone that knows about this terrorist group also knows they have been living with Egypt for over 20 years. So why this sudden need to “smoke them out”? Because its an excuse for the military build up.
Russia will be a tough one, I believe they are more bark than bite. Granted they are a worthy opponent, their country has fallen to become the used car dealer of weapons to 3rd world countries. If the US fought Russia, we would win, although at what cost, I’m not sure. They are proud and would rather burn the world before going down. That being said, we have some outrageous advancements in missile defense, so I’m 100% positive no war head could breach our airspace. Russia is also too poor still, despite their recent uptick in their economy, their military hardware is very minimal and nothing compared to what our military has to offer.
I believe Russia will bark loudly and sound very scary, in order to receive compensation for the US destroying all potential to be reimbursed by Iran. I am sure some agreements will be met and they will just be compensated through oil contracts, etc.. this btw has already been in the works. Russia is in no place to take on the US.
China in the other hand is very interesting. They are one naval error away from a confrontation with Japan. China has 2 moves to make with Japan. Either wait for their military to greatly advance in the next 20 years, which it will surely be in the position to do, and probably the more rational decision. Or they could strike while the US has its hands full and strike while the iron is hot. If they wait Japan has most certainly realized it has to start drastically expanding their military and will do so for years to come, making Japan possibly more difficult to fight. so they either attack later at their strongest or attack now while they have a weaker, more opportunistic chance to catch the world with its pants down. Let it be known, however, that Japan has some amazing technologies in its navy.
If China dumps US currency it will shoot itself in the foot. Yes it would drop our currency drastically but also mean the money they loaned us could be either paid for at a fraction of the loan or possible have their debt scrubbed and lost if any attack on the US were to occur. Trust me, China doesn’t want to go to war with the US either. We have plenty of European allies that would pound their military. Their military is in its infancy and things are going too well for them to want to ruin their chances with an attack using poorly designed everything. Not too mention they have zero experience with war, however they are great observers.
China and Japan are very interesting to me right now. Something could actually happen. As for the middle east and Russia, Russia will bark loudly, get its bone in the form of repayment, and Iran, Egypt, and Syrian governments will be unravelled. Turkey will be interesting to see their position, along with jordan. They might be planning a scavenger role to pick the carcass of Egypt and Iran.
In any scenario, US and our allies in Europe can dominate any and all current threats, if it came to ww3 these countries will be the historical losers of the confrontation, 100%.
That was long and I typed it on my phone. Didn’t proof read, maybe didn’t organize my thoughts well, but I tried. Good day.
Like or Dislike:
1 
0
18th September 2012 at 10:23 pm
propher4profit says:
Perhaps this is wishful thinking and I’m probably pulling this out of my ass (among other things), but did anyone catch what the US just did? They took the MEK off the terror list. This tells me that they are going to use them in a fight with Iran…..or….wait for it…. The MEK that hates Iran leadership, yet has strong ties to Islam may be pondering a coop.
I know, wishful thinking but how amazing would it be if the MEK had convinced Iran military leaders that they are doomed if attacked. If the MEK was supported by the US to overthrow Iran leadership in exchange for destruction of their nuclear program than this would be the most amazing twist in history. Not only would it save thousands of lives, but it would leave the US in to “what now Russia and China” leaving them confused and pissed they couldn’t take advantage of the situation.
Seriously, a move like this would be ground breaking and an amazing feat historically. Maybe I am dreaming here but this would honestly solve so many problems it would be amazing. I am crossing my fingers the US had this master plan all along. We can then leave Israel to pick up our light work with Egypt and maybe Syria..
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
18th September 2012 at 12:11 am