Posted on 24th September 2012 by Administrator in Economy |Politics |Social Issues
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| A New Perspective on Cost of War |
| United States, Britain and the UN-Member nations all went into Afghanistan and Iraq to help save the world. This is how much it cost them to “Ensure safety for the World”. |
| One Hundred Dollars |
$100 – Most counterfeited money denomination in the world.
Keeps the world moving. |
| Ten Thousand Dollars |
$10,000 – Enough for a great vacation or to buy a used car.
Approximately one year of work for the average human on earth. |
| One Million Dollars |
$1,000,000 – Not as big of a pile as you thought, huh?
Still this is 92 years of work for the average human on earth. |
| One Hundred Million Dollars |
$100,000,000 – Plenty to go around for everyone.
Fits nicely on an ISO / Military standard sized pallet. |
| $100 Million Dollars = 1 year of work for 3500 average Americans |
It takes 3500 Americans 1 year of work to make $100 Million dollars. The 155 million Americans who worked with earnings in 2005 on average made $28,567 / year.In front of the 3500 people is the $100 Million pallet that they all have to work for 1 year to earn.
Look carefully to see a stack of $1 Million and the 35 average Americans required to earn that $1 Million in 1 year. |
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Iraq Deaths139 Deaths |
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Afghanistan Deaths594 Deaths |
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| UN Countries’ Deaths |
Deaths of soldiers from countries that are members of the United Nations and participated in the Iraq & Afghanistan wars.This includes soldiers from Australia (2 deaths), Azerbaijan (1), Bulgaria (13), Czech Republic (1), Denmark (7), El Salvador (5), Estonia (2), Fiji (1), Georgia (5), Hungary (1), Italy (33), Kazakhstan (1), Latvia (3), Netherlands (2), Poland (23), Romania (3), Slovakia (4), South Korea (1), Spain (11), Thailand (2), Ukraine (18), Canada (158).
The monetary cost has not been calculated. $2 billion truck is for comparison.”If the United Nations once admits that international disputes can be settled by using force, then we will have destroyed the foundation of the organization and our best hope of establishing a world order.”
- Dwight D. Eisenhower (WWII General & President of USA) |
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| USA’s Deaths & War Costs |
Not sure what was meant when Obama said: “Mission Accomplished”. This is not it.With more then 5x the size of military power of all world’s countries combined,
USA has no problem showing its military power.The trucks show the Iraq & Afghanistan war budget in fiscal year 2012.
The total bill of Iraq war is estimated around $4 Trillion USD ($4 million millions dollars).
US Government has authorized 1.38 Trillion USD through 2012 for War Budget for Iraq & Afghanistan.
The real cost of war is much higher, with ~2.6 Trillion estimated additional expenses, including health care for wounded, etc. That is illustrated by the 2x $1.3 Trillion dollars towers.
There are a also 14342 wounded soldiers, but the wheel-chairs are not shown.
Note the full-size American Football field on the right & the small truck on the right by cash tower.
Iraq
| Deaths |
4484 Soldiers |
| 2012 Cost |
$10.1 Billion USD |
| Total Cost |
$807.4 Billion USD |
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Afghanistan
| Deaths |
1893 Soldiers |
| 2012 Cost |
$111.1 Billion USD |
| Total Cost |
$570.9 Billion USD |
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Post War Cost
2x $1.3 Trillion USD towers.
This is post-war costs
estimated by economists. |
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| Iraq War Cost |
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Afghanistan War Cost |
“The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without.”
- Dwight D. Eisenhower (WWII General & President of USA)Note: The real cost of war is much higher than shown above, as this is only US, UK & UN nation expenses, and does not reflect the total death toll released by WikiLeaks at 109,032 deaths in Iraq alone (most Iraqi, Afghan civilian, insurgent or Iraqi military), the cost of destruction, emotional toll, wounded people, etc…Sources: CostofWar.org (1), CostofWar.org (2), Huffington Post, iCasualties.org |
card802 says:
Speachless………………
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24th September 2012 at 8:29 pm
biggyTmofo says:
Fuck the money, the fed can print that no problem. It’s lost lives and damaged living ones. The Afgan adventure is the most pointless and Iraq not far behind. I am sorry I ever believed this shit for more than a nanosecond. Forgive me for I voted Bush in 2004 so he could stay in the White House and suffer. Kerry would have done no better. The worst presidential campaign second only to Romney.
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24th September 2012 at 8:42 pm
Jackson, the cynic, and IraK, the realist, says:
Dollars and dead soldiers… for America that keeps the economy humming. The gov’munt spends the bucks, the FED buys the guv’munt debt, and the young bucks sign up for a bonus and boot camp. Then they’re off to wherever to keep the world safe for democracy, Bernanke, Bush, ‘Bama, and God’s Chosen People… oh, and you too.
Ain’t war wonderful! The dumb kids die, the guv’ment pays the bills, and, thanks to Ben and our boys in Congress, it costs us almost nothing. The next generation, the dumb kids, will get get hit in the pocketbook.
Now that we got Ron Paul out of the way, remember to vote Republican or Democrat. It doesn’t matter which, but be sure to vote for Obamney to show that you support the system.
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24th September 2012 at 9:45 pm
Ron says:
Well i thought it was a bad idea from the start.So hijacker nut jobs hijack planes and kill three thousand people.The jackers are mostly saudis or financed through them and we attack Afganistan?And when were we supposed to know when we are done?
Ive read that gas is really like 14 bucks a gallon when you add in the military expense.
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24th September 2012 at 2:35 am
flash says:
The war machine’s budget can be sustained if everyone over 18 and just get a job and pays 5 k a year into the US treasuries.Easy peasy.
On another note, Obama has the Neo-Kolobians pissing razor blades and shitting bob wire with his “homey don’t play dat” stance on Israels push for war with Iran.
Is small wonder Hopey C and all the other C-dotes are frothing at the mouth , blaming the Kenyan for everything to inner city decay to the cost of the breakfast buffet at the Chicago Marriott.
Sorry Kolobians, but the truth is Obama has more common sense when it comes to a need for war than the dipshit frat boy Dubya and the kooky Kolobian rolled into one stinky brain fart.
But hey, Kolobians, you’re welcome to go fight for Israels on your own dime.
Iran vs Israel
One has to give credit where it is due. For all of his observable anti-Americanism, Obama nevertheless appears to be doing a better job of giving priority to American interests on the foreign affairs front than George W. Bush, John McCain, or Mitt Romney:
” As debkafile reported after that Obama snub, the wrangling with Washington has reduced Netanyahu’s options to start standing alone and making his own decisions. Obama’s latest words underline this. The prime minister can no longer avoid his most fateful decision and one that is critical to Israel’s survival: to attack Iran and disrupt its nuclear program or live with an anti-Semitic nuclear Iran dedicated to the destruction of the Jewish state and a threat to world stability.
For two weeks, the Israeli prime minister has dodged and ducked around the White House message. Instead, he has kept on bombarding Washington with high-powered messengers. They all came back with the same tidings: the US President is not only fed up with Israeli pressure but more determined than evade any military engagement with Iran.”
The hostilities between Iran and Israel certainly have the potential to be dangerous, but neither country are a direct national security interest of the United States. Neither is a military ally and both countries could perish in a mutual nuclear conflagration and it wouldn’t effect the USA in the slightest. If Israel decides to attack Iran, or if Iran decides to attack Israel, the only concern of the USA should be to prevent the war from going regional by keeping the Sunni Arab nations out of the conflict. Given the fact that Israel has no serious allies and most of Iran’s neighbors are varying degrees of hostile towards both Israel and the Shi’ite Persians of Iran, there is little reason to believe that a war between them is likely to draw in a substantial number of third parties.
Nor should anyone take the hysterical posturing by American Jews about the potential for a second Holocaust if the USA does not intervene seriously. Ehud Barak, the Israeli Minister of Defense, has estimated that a war with Iran would last one month and cost Israel around 500 dead. In a worst case scenario.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2012/09/iran-vs-israel.html
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24th September 2012 at 6:15 am
efarmer says:
“Ive read that gas is really like 14 bucks a gallon when you add in the military expense.”
Kind of makes ethanol that costs $3.00 a gallon to make look cheap, doesn’t it? And never had to send a single solder to produce it.
EF
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24th September 2012 at 6:18 am
efarmer says:
flash,
“Sorry Kolobians, but the truth is Obama has more common sense when it comes to a need for war than the dipshit frat boy Dubya and the kooky Kolobian rolled into one stinky brain fart.”
That must explain why we continue in Afghanistan, bombed Libya for no reason, continue and expand ALL wars that Bush was in. Because Obama has so much common sense?
They really love us around the world now, don’t they? The only Change we got was acceleration. Bush on steroids.
EF
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24th September 2012 at 6:23 am
taxSlave says:
War, er, I mean foreign policy, is the single most important issue facing us. Yeah the economy and domestic issues rank, but lower than war.
We have to stop killing people first.
The graphics illustrate the relationship of war to the economy.
Stop the killing of innocent people, close the bases, bring the troops home, and live in peace with our fellow earthlings. This should be the goal and objective.
We have to stop killing people first.
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24th September 2012 at 6:31 am
Mr. Happy says:
This morning the Muslim Brotherhood warned the United States that if the
United States continued meddling in Egypt , Libya and other
potential hot spots in the middle east, they intend to cut off America ‘s
supply of convenience store and motel managers.
If this action does not yield sufficient results, cab drivers will be next,
followed by Dell, AT&T and AOL customer service reps .
Finally, if all else fails, they have threatened not to send us any more
presidents either.
It’s gonna get ugly, people.
Respectfully…who the fuck knows who wrote this
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24th September 2012 at 7:13 am
flash says:
efarmer
FWIW,,could it be possible that Obama is trying to disengage an out of control war machine that was set in motion long before he came on watch. I would think that what happened to Kennedy’s and King would make any leader wary of the repercussions for a direct challenge to the MIC.
That said , the fact that he -so far- refuses to bomb the shit out of Iran at the behest of the Israeli lobby does tell US that he is pushing back., if even the slightest.
Can the Kolobian be expected to buck the Jewish siren call to global war?
July 29, 2012
Warmonger Romney Comes Further Into the Open
Posted by Michael S. Rozeff on July 29, 2012 06:44 AM
We already know that Romney supports a U.S. war against Iran. He will initiate it if Iran doesn’t do what the U.S. says. Now Romney has come even more clearly out into the open in support of war against Iran. He’s in Jerusalem having talks with Netanyahu and Peres. His top national security aide is Dan Senor, a neoconservative warmonger. Senor said “If Israel has to take action on its own, in order to stop Iran from developing that capability, the governor would respect that decision.” Senor also has called for arming the Assad opposition in Syria.
Romney and the rest of the neoconservative warmongers are intent on American global dominance by force of arms. Romney’s slogan for foreign policy on his web site is “Foreign Policy: An American Century.”
Romney likes the idea of unity. Here are some examples.
Senor has said about Romney: “He feels strongly about the importance of locking arms with a number of these leaders. In the case of Israel, he feels strongly that threats to Israel are threats to America.” Romney sees Israel and America as one. The headline to the article with this quote characterized Romney as seeking “unity with Israel and European allies.”
Romney’s thinking fuses America and what he calls the “international system” into one entity, to be secured by American “strength” and “power.” He claims “It is only American power—conceived in the broadest terms—that can provide the foundation for an international system that ensures the security and prosperity of the United States and our friends and allies.”
Romney also fuses religion and the state, or replaces God with the state, when he claims “The ‘last best hope of earth’ was what Abraham Lincoln called our country. Mitt Romney believes in fulfilling the promise of Lincoln’s words and will defend America abroad in word and in deed.”
After the Aurora killings, Romney’s call to “come together” was headlined as a call to “unity.”
In my opinion, people who are hung up on unity and togetherness are inclined to downplay individuality and the person in favor of groups and abstract aggregations. They are more inclined to want to dominate and homogenize people, using force if they can. In the extreme case, we get Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer—One People, One Nation, One Leader.
Obama is not much different. He’s just more cute with his.
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24th September 2012 at 7:43 am
Stucky says:
Headline from today’s New York Post. Awesome.
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24th September 2012 at 7:47 am
flash says:
Romney the anti-Christ set to lead the tribulation.
Romney and the White Horse Prophecy
A close look at the roots of Romney’s — and the Mormon church’s — political ambitions
By Sally Denton
When Mitt Romney received his patriarchal blessing as a Michigan teenager, he was told that the Lord expected great things from him. All young Mormon men — the “worthy males” of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, as it is officially known — receive such a blessing as they embark on their requisite journeys as religious missionaries. But at 19 years of age, the youngest son of the most prominent Mormon in American politics — a seventh-generation direct descendant of one of the faith’s founding 12 apostles—Mitt Romney had been singled out as a destined leader.
From the time of his birth — March 13, 1947 — through adolescence and into manhood, the meshing of religion and politics was paramount in Mitt Romney’s life. Called “my miracle baby” by his mother, who had been told by her physician that it was impossible for her to bear a fourth child, Romney was christened Willard Mitt Romney in honor of close family friend and one of the richest Mormons in history, J. Willard Marriott.
Romney is the product of this culture. At BYU, he was idolized by fellow students and referred to, only half jokingly, as the “One Mighty and Strong.” He was the “alpha male” in the rarefied Cougar pack, according to Michael D. Moody, a BYU classmate and fellow member of the group. Composed almost exclusively of returned Mormon missionaries, the club members were known for their preppy blue blazers and enthusiastic athletic boosterism. Romney, who had been the assistant to the president of the French Mission where he was personally in charge of more than 200 missionaries, easily assumed a leadership position in the club.
Both political and religious, the Cougar Club raised funds for the school and its members emulated the campus-wide honor and dress codes, passionately disavowing the counterculture symbolism of long hair, bell-bottom jeans and antiwar slogans that were sweeping college campuses throughout America. They held monthly “Fireside testimonies” — Sacrament meetings at which each member testified to his belief that he lived in Heaven before being born on Earth, that he became mortal in order to usher in the latter days, and that he recognized Joseph Smith as the prophet, the Book of Mormon as the word of God, and the Mormon church as the one true faith.
http://www.salon.com/2012/01/29/mitt_and_the_white_horse_prophecy/
Mittens got the whole world in his hands……YIKES!
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24th September 2012 at 7:56 am
flash says:
Stuck…not surprising considering the anti-Muslim ads popping up all over NYC.
Freedom of religion?…maybe..? not so much..?
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24th September 2012 at 8:00 am
flash says:
Romney and the White Horse Prophecy
A close look at the roots of Romney’s — and the Mormon church’s — political ambitions
http://www.salon.com/2012/01/29/mitt_and_the_white_horse_prophecy/
Michael Moody says political success was an institutional value of the LDS church.
“The instructions in my [patriarchal] blessing, which I believed came directly from Jesus, motivated me to seek a career in government and politics,” he wrote in his 2008 book. Moody recently said that he ran for governor of Nevada in 1982 because he felt he had been divinely directed to “expand our kingdom” and help Romney “lead the world into the Millennium. Once a firm believer but now a church critic, Moody was indoctrinated with the White Horse Prophecy. Like Romney, Moody is a seventh-generation Mormon, steeped in the same intellectual and theological milieu.
“We were taught that America is the Promised Land,” he said in an interview.”The Mormons are the Chosen People. And the time is now for a Mormon leader to usher in the second coming of Christ and install the political Kingdom of God in Washington, D.C.”
In this scenario, Romney’s candidacy is part of the eternal plan and the candidate himself is fulfilling the destiny begun in what the church calls the “pre-existence.”
Several prominent Mormons, including conservative talk-show host Glenn Beck, have alluded to this apocalyptic prophecy. The controversial myth is not an official church doctrine, but it has also arisen in the national dialogue with the presidential candidacies of Mormons George Romney, Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, and now Mitt Romney.
“I don’t think the White Horse Prophecy is fair to bring up at all,” Mitt Romney told the Salt Lake Tribune when he was asked about it during his 2008 presidential bid. “It’s been rejected by every church leader that has talked about it. It has nothing to do with anything.”
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24th September 2012 at 8:04 am
efarmer says:
Flash,
Our difference in Obama’s foreign policy is this. You listen to what he says. I am watching what he does. The wars continue and expand, drones are killing innocent women and children. He won’t meet with foreign leaders, but goes on Letterman and the View. Obama lies and people are dying.
Obama is Bush on steroids. Ron Paul was the only sane voice.
EF
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24th September 2012 at 8:05 am
Stan says:
Obama has common sense. Lol
That has to be one of the funniest things I have seen on here!!
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24th September 2012 at 8:12 am
flash says:
efarmer,
You misinterpret my position.
I am not pro-Obama.I’m just acting as a counter balance to the neo-con jibery present on TBP which portends Romany to be the savior of US all.
We already know the evil that is Obama and 4 more years of a lame duck session that would be the result of an Obamey win, may be better than 8 years of unbeknownst evil that may befall US all in the event of a Romney win.
Since the early 90′s I’ve supported Ron Paul both monetarily and by distributing his freedom message as far as my influence would allow , but it his presidency is not to be, so the harsh realities of the two bad choices presented the American voters need to be rationally discussed.
Wars have been expanded ,but how much control over this does Obama really have?
Can he just reign the bloody Pentragram in at will without risk to his or his families lives or does he have to methodically ease the war teat from their death dealing mouths of the most vicious entity on earth.
Do you really think the men behind the power curtain ,give a rat’s ass what the community organizer turned POTUS, Obama really thinks.Hell they put him there.
But so far he has bucked the MIC’s rush to war with Iran.
And make no mistake , this will lead to global war.
I sincerely believe Romney will not hesitate to murder Iranians.
A choice of two evils…could one really be the lesser?
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24th September 2012 at 8:27 am
flash says:
Stan , as opposed to your blithering neo-con lunacy , Obama is the epitome of sanity.
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24th September 2012 at 8:30 am
Stucky says:
flash
Those anti-Muslim ads in NYC and other cities are the work of one individual, Pamela Geller.
Her website and blog is Atlas Shrugs. Geller calls Rand “the greatest philosopher in human history” and that she is “clearly defined by Rand’s philosophy”. John Bolton also wrote a glowing foreword in her book, “The Obama Administration’s War on America, “.
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24th September 2012 at 8:43 am
flash says:
Thanks Stuck, but I’m quite aware who the warmongering jewish bitch is.
She is considered a saint on AWD’s favorite neo-con websites and one disparaging remarks towards her true motivation for bombing Iran will get you banned…been there, done that.
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24th September 2012 at 8:48 am
Anonymous says:
Flash,
Could you please explain this statement you made.
” or does he have to methodically ease the war teat from their death dealing mouths of the most vicious entity on earth.”
I see NO evidence of this. I see a man golfing, talking about how wonderful he is and running for reelection. I only see more Bush policies.
EF
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24th September 2012 at 8:50 am
Stucky says:
“I’m just acting as a counter balance to the neo-con jibery present on TBP which portends Romany to be the savior of US all.” ——- flash
Step away from the screen, take a deep breath, and pray that some god somewhere returns you back to sanity.
No one here … NO ONE!!! … has ever made the claim that Romney is the savior of us all. You are losing all credibility with bullshit like that.
There are SOME here who think Romney will do better than Obama Part Deux … but even those people don’t love Romney. No one here loves Romney …. so, your role as “counter balance” really isn’t needed. Is it?
Hot debate. What do you think?
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24th September 2012 at 8:52 am
Stan says:
Flash
You are gonna get your fuckin wish. Your precious cocksucker Obama is gonna get re-elected
Be real careful what you wish for idiot.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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24th September 2012 at 8:52 am
flash says:
Anonymous- It’s a hypothetical question- sorry left off the question mark.
Actively engaging Iran in war should be the butt clincher for all Americans and so far Obama has committed US.
http://debka.com/article/22380/Obama-snubs-Netanyahu-on-Iran-My-decisions—only-what%E2%80%99s-right-for-America
Obama snubs Netanyahu on Iran: My decisions – only what’s right for America
DEBKAfile Special Report September 24, 2012, 9:24 AM (GMT+02:00)
Obama puts the lid on Iran cooperation with Israel
US President Barack Obama said Sunday night, Sept. 23 on CBS “60 Minutes” that he understands and agrees with Netanyahu’s insistence that Iran not be allowed to obtain nuclear weapons as this would threaten both countries, the world in general and kick off an arms race. But he then added: “When it comes to our national security decisions – any pressure that I feel is simply to do what’s right for the American people. And I am going to block out – any noise that’s out there.”
Obama went on to say: “Now I feel an obligation – not pressure but obligation – to make sure that we’re in close consultation with the Israelis on these issues because it affects them deeply.”
So, consultation? yes; cooperation? forget it. His comments removed the last hopes Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak may have entertained of cooperation with the US for curtailing Iran’s nuclear designs by military force.
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24th September 2012 at 9:06 am
flash says:
Stan-thanks bozo I’ll be sure to vote for Obama just to make sure your vote is indeed wasted.
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24th September 2012 at 9:06 am
flash says:
Stucky…not so hyperbolic when you take the extreme vitriol slung by the likes of Hopey C and Stan when the Romney facade is called into question.
If he’s not being looked upon as a savior then why all the viciousness when his campaign is opposed?…what then….a mediocre politician that some just fervently support by flinging fuck yous and you’re idiot to those who think Romney is not worthy of POTUS?
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24th September 2012 at 9:14 am
Stan says:
Flash
Lol. I have heard it all now. You are FUCKED UP!
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24th September 2012 at 9:17 am
efarmer says:
Flash, that anon was me, no clue what happened there.
Once again, you are listening to what he says. He is a fucking liar. He is a narcissist. He is the Liar in Chief.
Start looking at what he does and not what he says or the MSM says he says. They are two completely different things. Except for the redistribution shit.
EF
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24th September 2012 at 9:18 am
flash says:
Why is it that Congress thinks it OK to fund terrorist organization on other sovereign nations soil , but not OK for other sovereign nations to fund terrorism here on American soil?
Only in Bizzarro Land.
MEK decision: multimillion-dollar campaign led to removal from terror list
Revealed: the steady flow of funds to members of Congress, lobbying firms and former officials in support of Iranian group
• Exiles, lobbyists and the campaign to delist the MEK
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MEK decision: multimillion-dollar campaign led to removal from terror list
Revealed: the steady flow of funds to members of Congress, lobbying firms and former officials in support of Iranian group
• Exiles, lobbyists and the campaign to delist the MEK
• Q&A: what is the MEK?
Chris McGreal
Chris McGreal in Washington
guardian.co.uk, Friday 21 September 2012 15.20 EDT
MEK protests
The MEK, which was banned in 1997, supported the Islamic revolution in Iran and later allied itself with Saddam Hussein. Photograph: Jose Luis Magana/AP
Supporters of a designated Iranian terrorist organisation have won a long struggle to see it unbanned in the US after pouring millions of dollars into an unprecedented campaign of political donations, hiring Washington lobby groups and payments to former top administration officials.
A Guardian investigation, drawing partly on data researched by the Centre for Responsive Politics, a group tracking the impact of money in US politics, has identified a steady flow of funds from key Iranian American organisations and their leaders into the campaign to have the People’s Mojahedin Organisation of Iran removed from the list of terrorist organisations.
The US secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, is expected to notify Congress that the MEK will be removed from the terrorism list in the coming days.
The campaign to bury the MEK’s bloody history of bombings and assassinations that killed American businessmen, Iranian politicians and thousands of civilians, and to portray it as a loyal US ally against the Islamic government in Tehran has seen large sums of money directed at three principal targets: members of Congress, Washington lobby groups and influential former officials.
Prominent among the members of Congress who have received fund is Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the chair of the House of Representatives foreign affairs committee. She has accepted at least $20,000 in donations from Iranian American groups or their leaders to her political campaign fund.
Other recipients include Congressman Bob Filner, who was twice flown to address pro-MEK events in France and has pushed resolutions resolutions in the House of Representatives calling for the group to be unbanned. More than $14,000 in expenses for Filner’s Paris trips were met by the head of an Iranian American group who also paid close to $1m to a Washington lobby firm working to get the MEK unbanned.
A Texas Congressman, Ted Poe, received thousands of dollars in donations from the head of a pro-MEK group in his state at a time when he was a regular speaker on behalf of its unbanning at events across the US, describing the organisation as the ticket to regime change in Iran.
Mike Rogers, chairman of the House of Representatives intelligence committee, has also received the backing of individuals and groups that support the unbanning of the MEK. Rogers has been among the strongest supporters in Congress of delisting the group, sponsoring resolutions and pressing other members of Congress to support the cause.
A leading advocate of unbanning the MEK and chairman of the foreign affairs committee’s oversight subcommittee, congressman Dana Rohrabacher, has received thousands of dollars in donations from supporters of the banned group this year alone.
The Guardian sought comment from Ros-Lehtinen, Rogers, Filner, Poe and Rohrabacher. Only Rohrabacher responded.
He said he was comfortable accepting donations from MEK supporters but that the money has no influence on his position that it should be unbanned.
“I wouldn’t doubt that people would donate to my campaign if it’s something that they see as beneficial to them, to what they believe in, whether it’s the MEK or whether it’s anybody else,” he said.
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24th September 2012 at 9:18 am
Stucky says:
flash
I would prefer Romney to another four years of Obama.
Does it piss me off when people want to re-elect Obama? Yes!!
Does that mean I am a Romney lover? No!!
Does that mean I think he’s a saviour? No!!
I’ll say it just once more, and leave it at that; I think you’re wildly overreacting to certain people’s support for Romney.
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24th September 2012 at 9:20 am
flash says:
efarmer – name one POTUS ,we the people have elected in the past 4 decades that wasn’t a narcissistic lying POS?
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24th September 2012 at 9:21 am
Stan says:
There is no hope for this country We are stupid enough to elect a community organizer as our president- watch him fuck up for 4 years and then re-elect the sorry bastard!!
You cannot make this shit up.
Shit is fucked up and bullshit!!
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24th September 2012 at 9:24 am
flash says:
…not a dimes worth of difference between the two parties of MIC servants
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/09/u-s-government-embraces-the-same-iranian-terrorists-that-bush-cited-to-allege-that-saddam-was-sponsoring-international-terrorism.html
And Glenn Greenwald – who has been writing about American support for the Iranian terrorist group MEK for years – notes:
[MEK] is an Iranian dissident group that has been formally designated for the last 15 years by the US State Department as a “foreign terrorist organization”. When the Bush administration sought to justify its attack on Iraq in 2003 by accusing Saddam Hussein of being a sponsor of “international terrorism”, one of its prime examples was Iraq’s “sheltering” of the MEK. Its inclusion on the terrorist list has meant that it is a felony to provide any “material support” to that group.
Nonetheless, a large group of prominent former US government officials from both political parties has spent the last several years receiving substantial sums of cash to give speeches to the MEK, and have then become vocal, relentless advocates for the group, specifically for removing them from the terrorist list. Last year, the Christian Science Monitor thoroughly described “these former high-ranking US officials – who represent the full political spectrum – [who] have been paid tens of thousands of dollars to speak in support of the MEK.” They include Democrats Howard Dean, Ed Rendell, Wesley Clark, Bill Richardson, and Lee Hamilton, and Republicans Rudy Giuliani, Fran Townsend, Tom Ridge, Michael Mukasey, and Andrew Card.
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24th September 2012 at 9:26 am
flash says:
Stan , that’s right, Obama is the source of all your misery and subsequent mental illness.
He must be defeated to clear the way for the misery hiding behind door #2.
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24th September 2012 at 9:34 am
efarmer says:
Flash,
Thank you for agreeing with me that Obama is not the savior, that he is a lying, narcissistic piece of shit.
EF
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24th September 2012 at 9:38 am
efarmer says:
BTW, I think Carter was the worst president in my lifetime ( and as a young idealist, I voted for him). But I think that he would be the last one that would be the exemption. He was just a shitty president.
EF
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24th September 2012 at 9:40 am
Stan says:
Jimmah carter USED to be the worst-that is till Obama took over the championship.
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24th September 2012 at 9:55 am
Ron says:
I hear Obama is trying to pull away from the middle east and our support for Israel,wich dosent sound bad.
I still dont like Obama for lots of reasons.Ive seen how horrible he is,now its Romneys turn,can he be worse?The only negative i see about Romney is his thinking on Iran.He seems way to gung ho for action against Iran.
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24th September 2012 at 10:57 am
Stucky says:
“The only negative i see about Romney is his thinking on Iran” —– Ron
Really??? That’s the ONLY negative you see??
I think I see your problem.
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24th September 2012 at 11:07 am
flash says:
Stuck, you’re relating you personal feelings.The fact that there are those that scream FU every time someone disses Romney clearly shows how they really feel.
efarmer , I don’t disagree that Obama is a lying , narcistic POS, but so is Romney and he has a God complex…
And parrroting the idiot Stan ,be careful what you ask for…
BTW , what was so bad about Jimmy Carter.
He didn’t create the mess that brought the downfall of the Shah of Iran and he brought Paul Volcker into the Fed to slow down the printing pressing , reign in inflation and create stable growth.
And, I know for a fact that during his political career he personally read every bill that he voted on or signed into law….one of the damn few.
I once had a Congressman tell me that he doesn’t read the bills, that’s staff’s job.
But, no ,the dumbass American electorate would rather have a Empire building , money printing ,cheap credit cowboy at the helm railing on about how deficits don’t matter.
You’d do well to have another sane adult like Carter at the helm of this economically failed state.
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24th September 2012 at 12:54 pm
flash says:
Stan , you wouldn’t make a greasy spot on Jimmy Carter’s rectum.
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24th September 2012 at 12:54 pm
efarmer says:
Flash,
On Carter? He federalized education. He caved to the unions and formed the Department of Education and we have had declining student tests scores ever since.
EF
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24th September 2012 at 1:07 pm
Administrator says:
Carter also created the Dept of Energy.
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24th September 2012 at 1:09 pm
flash says:
efarmer ,admin..
I didn’t say he was the greatest, just not the worse.
We could do worse to have another Paul Volcker running the Fed , a decade of stable growth resulting from Volcker chair not to mention the incentive to save Volcker provided by raising interest rates.
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24th September 2012 at 1:23 pm
flash says:
efarmer
I’d like to invite you over, for a tryst with me and Lance. If this doesn’t get you excited, nothing will…
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24th September 2012 at 1:32 pm
efarmer says:
So saying Jimmy Carter formed the Department of Education and tests scores have gone down ever since is a real turn on?
I’ll have to try that on women as I get back into the dating thing when I am over losing my wife.
EF
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24th September 2012 at 1:52 pm
flash says:
For seven years, Barack Obama had a “father-son” relationship with communist Frank Marshall Davis, who also has confessed to having sex with children, sadomasochism, bondage and practicing a wide array of deviant sexual activities.
The kind of sexual activities I like:
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24th September 2012 at 1:59 pm
Bob says:
My son is 17 now. I have decided, if push comes to shove, to do whatever it takes to save him from being killed in some pointless, political police action in some shithole halfway around the world where our troops are not allowed to wage war, and winning is absolutely out of the question. Bring all our kids (and adults) home — most countries are likely to implode back on themselves, anyway. We need every single one of our strong young people here with us. Let’s build roads here instead of in Iraq! And FUCK Afghanistan and Europe! Let our goddamned ‘allies’ fend for themselves for a change!
We promised a long time ago to look after Japan and Israel, but that should be it. And it should be limited to “nuke them, and we will end you.” Deterrence is still a wonderful thing.
Carter chose the cruise missle over the neutron bomb, and …that was a bad call, Ripley! It was a really bad call…looks like we need them both right now.
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24th September 2012 at 2:32 pm
flash says:
I see AW is posting again with the thumb with the vibrating ring thumb stuck deep into his anus..
MD’s are truly sick fuckers…..
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24th September 2012 at 4:57 pm