WHY DIDN’T ASIANS VOTE FOR ROMNEY?

Asians have the highest household income, highest education levels and the highest married family rate in America. They should have been a lock for the Republicans. Why did they vote overwhelmingly for Obama?

In the Aftermath of ‘12

By: Neil Howe

On November 7, Americans were just beginning to assess the magnitude and meaning of President Obama’s ’12 victory when the Dow dropped over 300 points, its largest daily plunge of the year. The next day, November 8, it plunged again. It’s almost as if history doesn’t want to give us time to contemplate what happened. But now, at the risk ignoring the rush of events, let’s take a moment to put some closure on the election season.

Overall, as my readers know, the ‘12 results were pretty much what I anticipated.

I said the election would be a lot closer than in ‘08, but that Obama would win. The margin would be narrow, but the outcome would not be an all-night cliffhanger. That turned out to be about right. In ’08, Obama won by 7.3 percent of the popular vote, just about the median margin for all elections in U.S. history. (It was just shy of FDR’s margin over Thomas Dewey in 1944.)  In ’12, Obama won by only 2.3 percent of the popular vote, which is the fifth smallest since 1900. (It was just under George W. Bush’s 2.5 percent margin against John Kerry, an election that was also considered a squeaker.)

I said there would be a 15-to-25 percentage point gap between under-30 young vote for Obama and the 65+ senior vote for Obama. In ’08, the gap was 21 percent; and in ’12, a preliminary survey by Pew projected it would be 20 percent. In fact, according to exit polls, the ‘12 gap between young and old was 16 points. So age polarization did moderate slightly. From ’08 to ’12, all age groups voted about 3 percent more for Romney. But Millennials tipped somewhat more steeply to Romney (about 5 percent) and the Silent a bit less. Let me go back to the postwar history of the presidential “generation gap” and update the Pew chart here. My edits in red show the actual ’12 exit poll results.

Why the moderation—or shrinkage—of the Obama youth margin from ‘08? Pre-election surveys identifying this youth shift away from Obama found that it was generated mostly by young whites (especially non-college young whites who have been hit hardest by the post-2008 economy) and only to a lesser extent by young minorities. The CIRCLE crosstabs on the exit poll, shown below, confirm that this is indeed what happened. Note that this time, unlike in ’08, the majority of young whites (51 percent) voted for the GOP.

This should not be a surprise. Unlike McCain, who struck many Millennials in ’08 as simply “too old,” Romney came across as more youthful and did not present the same obvious age contrast with Obama. Also, as I have mentioned in previous posts, Millennials are attracted to Romney’s cool, analytical, consensus-seeking persona—just as they have been attracted to many of these same qualities in Obama. The huge positive shift to Romney among under-50 whites after the first debate was largely attributed to the popular discovery that Romney was not an eccentric hothead like McCain or committed culture warrior like Rick Perry. This discovery brought Romney back into the race and hugely complicated Team Obama’s campaign strategy. Ultimately, however, it was not enough to put Romney over the top.

Although I’ve reported on several surveys pointing to declining youth enthusiasm for the election, I’ve also insisted that the Millennial Generation is destined to be a civic force to be reckoned with. My entire generational model points in that direction. True to my model, Millennials pulled through—surprising many who had predicted they would stay home. In fact, according to the latest CIRCLE estimates, the ‘12 youth voter participation rate (at least 49 percent, the count is not over yet) was nearly as strong as it was in ’08 (52 percent). This rate is already higher than ’04 (48 percent) and much higher than in the last election in which Gen-Xers totally filled the under-30 age bracket (1996: 37 percent).

In ’12 as in ’08, the youth vote determined the outcome—meaning that if the under-30 vote had simply split 50-50, McCain and Romney would have won. This cannot be said of any election earlier than 2008, going all the way back to the 1930s. The youth vote likewise determined the outcome of all the major battleground states that went this time to Obama: Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Virginia. Many who expected a GOP victory clearly hoped that a lot fewer youth voters would show up at the polls this year. This did not happen. Or, if it did happen to some degree, declining excitement probably kept home precisely those young voter categories (noncollege white males) who would have been least likely to vote for Obama. Either way, no advantage for Team Romney.

More generally, the ’12 results showed that the Democrats were mostly right, and the Republicans mostly wrong, about the composition of the turnout. The GOP-ridiculed “D+6” model turned out to be dead on. Also, futures markets like Intrade once again demonstrated their uncanny ability to hone in on the most likely outcome, even when real-time voter surveys were jumping all around. Conservatives who normally praise the virtues of markets should have known this all along.

Let me turn to two further perspectives on the results—income and ethnicity. Each sheds some interesting light on where Romney went wrong and why he fell short.

First, income. As discussed in a previous post, a major Pew survey recently revealed that the significant overall voter shift away from Democratic (and toward Republican) party identification over the last four years has been generated entirely by lower- and middle-income voters. Reason: They have been hardest hit by the economy. Affluent voters, by contrast, actually lean more to Obama and the Democrats in 2012 than in 2008. For Romney to win, it was absolutely essential for him to exploit this opening and harness this disaffection. He had to persuade these voters that the Obama economy had failed them and had stripped them of their security, dignity, and independence. And he had to make his biggest gains (relative to ’08) among lower income brackets.

In this effort he failed. The GOP preference by income bracket in ’12 was even steeper (slightly) than in ’08. Among > $100K voters, Romney won 54 percent; among < $50K voters, he won 38 percent. Compared to McCain in ’08, Romney did better over $100K and worse under $50K. To be sure, Romney faced some unique challenges in appealing to lower-income America—starting with his image as a very wealthy Wall Street wheeler-dealer. But these were surmountable. (Obama too is regularly criticized as an elitist Ivy League legal theorist, yet over time he has learned to handle the issue deftly.) What killed Romney was not the image, but rather the substance he regularly delivered that perfectly matched the image. Notorious example: the surreptitiously taped “47 percent” monologue, which was exactly the wrong message and which remained attached to Romney until the end of the campaign. The remark did untold damage. At long last, Jimmy Carter’s humiliating 1980 loss to the GOP was avenged by his grandson!

Second, ethnicity. And here I’m not sure I have the answers. Romney was the decisive favorite of all white Americans (59 percent).  He was even the decisive favorite of all white American women (56 percent). Yet Romney was also distinctly unpopular among nonwhites: He got the vote of only 27 percent of Hispanics, 26 percent of Asians, and 6 percent of African-Americans. Despite his better overall showing compared to McCain in ‘08, Romney actually lost 4 points among Hispanics and (incredibly) 11 points among Asians.

What’s going on here? Of course, everyone points to John McCain’s and George W. Bush’s conciliatory stance on immigration reform as one reason they didn’t suffer as badly at the hands of minority voters. Maybe. But I don’t think that’s a complete explanation. Romney and Obama actually agree on most of the basics of immigration reform—and though minority immigrants widely approve of Obama’s Dream Act and selective enforcement policy, they also know about his relentless deportation agenda. (Obama has deported more immigrants than any other President.)

I think something deeper, more cultural is at work. An 11 percent decline among Asians? That’s a catastrophe for the GOP. Asians are not known to obsess over immigration reform. They exceed whites in median household income. They are socially conservative, aspire to own property, and admire successful business leaders. In recent elections, I haven’t found one in which they didn’t give the GOP at least 40 percent of their vote.  In 1996, when Dole lost badly to Clinton, Asians actually preferred Dole to Clinton, 48 to 43 percent. So what happened in 2012?

Perhaps this is where Romney’s Mormonism ultimately hurt him—not, as once expected, among white evangelicals (who ended up ignoring theology and voting for him anyway), but among nonwhite minorities (who could not look past the long LDS heritage as a white-only church). Again, I am simply suggesting possibilities. I welcome your suggestions.

We can make two fairly certain predictions for how Romney’s defeat is going to play out for the future of the GOP and for the Republican candidates likely to be running in 2016. One prediction is generational. Romney is likely to be the last Boomer to run as the GOP Presidential candidate. After all, by nearly everyone’s post-mortem consensus, he was the ablest Boomer contender in ’12 and still he lost. In 2016, by contrast, a huge new influx of first-wave Gen-Xers will be flooding onto the GOP primary stage. They are smart, charismatic, and (mostly) have plenty of hands-on executive experience. I’m talking about Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, Nikki Haley, Scott Walker, Paul Ryan, Bobby Jindal, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, and Ted Cruz. And maybe we can add on late-wave Boomers (both born in 1959) Susana Martinez and Scott Brown.

To be sure, not all the these will run for the White House in ’16. And, of those who do, many have sharp edges and as-yet unvetted secrets that could prevent them from going all the way to nomination. But it is an impressive field, and the Democrats have nothing like it in the bull pen.

In fact, it’s easy to imagine a generational reversal in party candidates. The Democrats in 2016 could very well move back to a Boomer candidate (Hillary, we know you’ve been waiting!), who might encounter little serious competition from Xers. Meanwhile, the Republicans are clearly going to put an Xer at the top of their ticket. Moreover—and this is my second prediction—this Xer is very likely to be nonwhite or Hispanic. (Of the contenders listed above, three are Hispanic and two are Indian.) Given Romney’s exit polls, many GOP leaders will regard the elevation of a minority standard bearer for their party as not just a nice-thing-to-do, but as a must-thing-to-do.

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Avinash_Tyagi
Avinash_Tyagi

@indian_indian

Yes because everyone in India commits rape and riots, lol

I’m comparing outliers to outliers to illustrate that there are outliers everywhere.

I’m not saying India is anywhere near perfect, it has lots of problems I agree, but India was never the issue I was discussing, I was only referring to your comment about how rapes only happen in India, or some other silliness you were going for.

And I’m very happy with the current Democrat dominated America, good time ahead once we marginalize the GOP

Stucky

indian american

You vote according to your belief-system, do you not? How you were raised and what you believe … well, that’s all part of culture. So, indeed, culture is part of the discussion … Indian or otherwise — such as the “trashy alcoholic whites” — another culture, you reference.

Nevertheless, while I disagree with what you wrote, I certainly DO appreciate that you wrote it. Divergent views are great …. even though they get hammered here. LOL

At the end of the day, I believe it matters little how Asians vote. The population is too small to significantly affect outcomes. The black vote doesn’t matter either. They’ll vote Democrat forever. It’s the Latino vote that Republicans better figure out.

Not that I give a shit about our ONE PARTY system. What would be nice? If a solid core group of whites, Hispanics, blacks, and Asians would come together and say; “Enough of this shit! You’re not fooling us any longer!!” …. and then form a legitimate 3rd party ….. of the people and for the people. But, that will never happen as long as there are people (like yourself, sadly) who fail to understand there is not a rat’s ass difference between Dems and Repubs. Go Ron Paul!!

Stucky

“I’m very happy with this Democrat majority America. A better America.” —- Avinash_Tyagi

“Yeah I’m really mistaken, sorry, but your rants clearly label you a republican, otherwise why defend them so vehemently?” —— Avinash_Tyagi
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And thus endeth ANY attempt to speak reasonably with Avinash. What a maroon.

Enjoy your “better America” …. which I hereby nominate, and immediately award; “The Dumbest Dumbass Thing Ever Said On TBP.”

I’m done with you. Maroon.

Indian_Indian
Indian_Indian

@Avinash_Tyagi

I am also not comparing India against America, my response was for your “trashy alcoholic whites.” Despite all their limitations the “trashy alcoholic whites” have built a society which is far superior to the “highly educated professional” Indians built in India. In all the parameters I listed, the “trashy alcoholic whites”‘s America is far better than the one in India.

Like Obama (who blames Bush for everything) You could still blame India’sills to the British rule till some 65 years back.

Stucky

Actual picture of Avinash_Tyagi and his Bindi (dot), celebrating Obama’s victory.
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Indian_Indian
Indian_Indian

Stucky – it was a thumbs up for you. I clicked on the down by mistake.

Anonymous
Anonymous

AWD, I see 4-5 potential separate countries on your map, not counting Alsaka (which I believe will go solo at some point) and assuming Texas will combine with some other states. Some would say it will take a long time, given there is a lot of red in some of the big blue states, but I say they will ignore the current state borders and re-draw. The partitions around the world should be complete by the time the Fourth Turning ends.

What do you think?

AWD

Indians do not have a positive effect on this country. They come here, get government loans and handouts, and buy up hotels, gas stations, convenience stores. They qualify as minorities, and get their hands on all the minority loans and goodies they can. They are as dependent on the government as any FSA member. They only network among themselves, loan each other money, and don’t participate in this country in any way, shape, or form, except to extract money. They do not assimilate with the population, here or any other country they invade, and for all practical purposes, look down on decadent and fat Americans.

Of course they voted for Obama. America 2.0 is going great. We keep falling and failing:

America WAS the greatest country in the world – but no longer is. Here are the stats as he breaks them down:

The U.S. is:

7th in literacy
27th in math
22nd in science
49th in life expectancy
178th in infant mortality
3rd in median household income
4th in labor force
4th in exports

But here are some other stats where the U.S. ranks as well:

19th is State success
3rd in oil production
12th in prosperity
22nd in freedom of the press
2nd in child poverty
30th in nocturnal safety
3rd in “liking” the United Sates (behind Japan and Kenya)
11th in “happiness”
22nd in freedom from corruption
24th in “perceived” honesty
39th in income inequality
4th in employees “faking” illness
3rd in human development
10th in economic freedom
17th in credit “worthiness”
4th in global competitiveness
47th in infant survival
38th in trade freedom
8th in researchers
12th in thriving population
34th in the Children’s index
61st in monetary freedom
and, most depressingly, 50th in erection length.

You get the idea. The rise of economic strength was built on the backs of hard working Americans (white) who built stuff from skyscrapers to railroads. We farmed, we produced and we raised families. The pride of “built in America” was the flag that we waved.

America just voted for a continuation of dependency. Dependency on government for handouts from food stamps to welfare. Dependency on the graciousness of our neighbors to continue loaning us money to support excess spending. America has become a debtor nation and the cancer of debt has eroded our economic prosperity.

AWD

I agree. The ObamaNation plantations with their modern-day government-dependant slaves should be fenced off from the rest of the country and left to fend for themselves. States should become independent; that said, I live in the socialist state of Illinois, which will never break away from the Federal tit.

We have the distinction of having brought up Obama the community organizer, the socialist, the communist, and unleashed him on the country. Where I live, however, is very conservative. Illinois could easily be broken into two or three separate states. What a battle that would be: glorious. It would also be glorious to see state trying to gain independence under Obama (the president that ended our country).

indian american
indian american

I still don’t understand why a discussion regarding why the republicans do not get a majority of Asian votes has any relevance to Indian society in India? If we were comparing US society as a whole to India, my remarks would certainly be different. This is about the asian american perception of the republican party and on that I have expressed my opinion.

Although I disagree with AWD, he/she does offer an answer to the question: Indians vote democrat b/c they are dependent on gov’t (according to AWD).. I would love to hear someone else propose an answer to the question. Why do Asians go democrat?

Indian_Indian
Indian_Indian

“I still don’t understand why a discussion regarding why the republicans do not get a majority of Asian votes has any relevance to Indian society in India?”

Simple answer – Because of your condescending remarks and the high moral ground that you took.

Examples:

“but tea partiers are seen as uneducated and there is nothing more important to the Asians than education!”
“he beacon of conservative values, Sara Palin, has an out of marriage grandchild.”
“but some Asians believe that conservatives are trashy alcoholic whites ”
“Thirdly the racism and bigotry of your base is very off putting”

You may not accept many of these but still you justify those who accept these stereotypes.

indian american
indian american

Stucky,

I believe your reason for the asian tilt toward democrats is that you believe asians overlook the issues in the african-american community but look down on the “white” trash issues that I mention in my post. Correct me if I’m wrong. If I have described your reason correctly, then let me first say that I find this reasoning interesting and thought-provoking. Second, I would ask why you believe Asians might feel this way?

Indian-Indian, I’ll accept your characterization of my post but would ask the same question as to why you think asians, and particularly Indians, tend to vote for democrats.

Thunderbird
Thunderbird

Probably Asians go democrat because republicans portray themselves as arrogant know it all persons and war mongers. They want to spend taxpayer money in large sums on offensive military campaigns overseas disguised as Defense spending. They come across as ugly Americans.

I’ll wager if the republican head honchos did not censor Ron Paul and let him speak to the public on the republican platform, more Asians would have voted republican.

Just listening to the republican talk show hosts is enough to turn a sensible person off. I doubt if many Asians listen to these garbage radio programs. They sure attract a large group of people who parrot what they say because their minds are closed to reality. Probably a large group of losers who have nothing to do but live on the negativity they spew out. And they do spew out negativity and agitate. Not food for the Asian mind.

SAH
SAH

“Asian American” is a false demographic group, which includes 2 disparate categories/races of people. The continent of Asia is huge.

Your Indian friends here are primarily Caucasian. Their genetic lineage is closely related to other West Asians (Afghanistan, Persia) who are also Caucasian – and yes Indians are closely related to Europeans as well. Indians are genetically 3x more closely related to Western Europeans than they are to the Mongoloid (aka oriental) Asians who reside East of the Himalayas. Most all of you Caucasians also share Indo-European languages and a love of Cows and dairy products in common. You are also all people with ability to grow ample facial hair, and body hair, and are the only race on Earth to have the gene for blue/green eyes (yes, West Asians have those too – in lower frequencies). You’ve also always shared a common ancient center of cultural heritage, emanating from the fertile-crescent region of the Middle East. Sorry to inform you, but you’re of a common racial and cultural background.

Orientals aka East Asians are racially Mongoloid. Genetically, Orientals are not closely related to Indians and other West Asians at all. None have Indo-European languages, don’t love Cows (traditionally use water buffalo) and none have any the ability to consume Dairy products, a very few desire to. Orientals have little ability to grow facial or body hair, and none carry the blue/green eye gene. The fertile crescent hasn’t played an influential role in cultural development East of the Himalayas, with China instead serving as the common ancient center of cultural heritage for all Orientals.

These 2 groups (Indians and Orientals) really cannot be lumped together in any way other than the arbitrary geographical designation of what comprises the Asian continent. Even more strangely, other West Asian relatives of India such as Afghanistan and Persia are considered Caucasian in
American demographic definitions. They just tossed 1 Caucasian group, the Indians in with orietals. Furthermore, as different as Euro Caucasians are from Indian Caucasians – well, among Orientals vast differences exists between Mongols, Chinese, Japanese, Tibetians, Vietnamese, Korea, etc.

There is NO meaningful way that an ethnic correlation can be made with supposed “Asian voting habits”. The REAL determining factor here cannot possibly be race (since “Asians” are a false group of 2 races) nor can it be culture since there are multiple cultural variations in each of the 2 races that make up “Asian Americans”. The real determiner here is in other factors:

“Asian Americans” of both the Indian and oriental types have the highest rates of college and graduate education in America, have travelled internationally, and have high incomes. Polling by John Zogby that did not differentiate by race found that overall:
1. Among college-educated voters, Obama leads by 8 points, 47 percent to 39 percent.
2. Voters who have traveled internationally give Obama a 10-point advantage, 48 percent to 38 percent.
3. Romney had the greatest support among middle-income Americans (6 point lead over Obama) making $50-$75k. His lead dropped by half (3 points) among those making over $100k.

The final 2 factors are Religion and Geography. Most Indian and Oriental “Asian Americans” are NOT Christian, so Repulicans fail to gain “Christian Values Voters” whom they emphasize and rely on so heavily. Finally, both Indian and Oriental “Asian Americans” tend to live and work in high population Democratic strongholds – places like NY, NJ, CA etc where all of the voters are more likely to vote Democrat anyway.

It really ISN’T a race or ethnicity thing (as it is with Black voting trends) for — “Asian Americans” are an imagined race, and an imagined ethnic group.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill

49th in life expectancy

See, the donks and paks want to depopulate the country and when the austerity measures hit expect it to rise even higher.

indian american
indian american

What is a “donk”?

SAH- you don’t think that there are common cultural elements between East Asians and Indians? I do, although my opinion is based purely on personal observation.

Avinash_Tyagi
Avinash_Tyagi

@ Stucky and Indian_Indian

Sorry but I never used the Term “Trashy Alcoholic whites”

Its funny that you guys have to invent things “that I said” to try and argue with me, lol, you guys are truly desperate.

Stucky You’re a Ron Paul fan? You have my sympathy, I had no idea you suffered from such mental insanity

SAH
SAH

@indian American – I believe a “donk” is a American black male slang term for “Big Ass” as in – “Damn, homey you see dat honey with da Donka Donk Donk?! I’d like to gets me sum o dat fo sho, and skeet all ova dat, ya feel me?!”. But… I’m not fluent in Ebonics so you might want to check google translate.

As for similarities between Indians and Orientals? India and China both make a lot of babies and have over a Billion people. They are both forced as groups by geography to immigrate legally, so we get high quality immigrants from both places. They fill similar niches in America – math/science/engineering/medicine. They had that one movie together – “Harold and Kumar” which was funny. Orientals got Buddhism from India, and India got rice from China. That’s about it.

India is truly Caucasian. Even the Caste system is very similar to European feudalism. Oriental society based on Confucianism has always been about competitive testing, and in a way, cutthroat meritocracy.

Perceived Similarities I think are like a cultural version of Convergent Evolution. Indians and Orientals share certain social strategies in America, but they derive from completely separate cultural and racial lineages.

Avinash_Tyagi
Avinash_Tyagi

@Administrator

What issues are not being debated? What idea of yours do you consider to have been ignored?

Avinash_Tyagi
Avinash_Tyagi

Also for those who don’t believe the GOP has a religion problem, check it out

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/11/10/15073187-this-week-in-god?lite

Basically if you weren’t an Evangelical or a Mormon, you probably didn’t vote for Romney

Hollow man
Hollow man

Madcow? Yes siree she tells the truth! No wonder you think this is a repub site. Liberty dang it! Choice! Make it or fail based on your actions. Small goverment!

Avinash_Tyagi
Avinash_Tyagi

Actually Japan’s problem is they were too timid in reacting early on and fell into a liquidity trap, their method of fiscal spending has been much like the US’s, timid and stop and go in nature (the US however acted much faster than Japan did in loosening interest rates at the onset of the recession avoiding the liquidity trap)

The problem is that country’s like the US and Japan lack the political will for the size of expenditure necessary.

For a bit of context, WW2 was the stimulus that finally ended the depression, adjusted for inflation to 2011 levels, US expenditure on the war comes to about 4 trillion.

By comparison, the spending on the US Stimulus was 839 billion (spread over 10 years)

Basically trying to move an economy about 6 times larger with a stimulus about 5 times smaller.

So there’s no real surprise that it only generated/saved a few million jobs rather than the many millions we lost due to the Bush era, it was far too small to do the full job.

Prem
Prem

Why Indian Americans voted overwhelmingly for Obama:

1. They like Obama personally. They like the fact that he went to Harvard – a minus with the banjo duelling demographic, but a big plus with Indians.

2. Birtherism, Sununu (Obama must learn to be American, Colin Powell only endorses Obama because he is Black) and the general racist disrespect from the GOP is totally off putting.

Kepi
Kepi

Firstly, I want to say I’m very thankful for our Immigrants. Not only are they responsible for bringing a lot of things I would never have been exposed to otherwise into the country and provided a cultural rejuvination that was much needed, but they’re the ones coming here and having babies. If it weren’t for immagrants, we’d be in the same position Japan is and the same that Europe will be in the near future. If you have negative population growth, your economy cannot grow. Hell, the last time the world population is believed to have stagnated, was the beginning of the fall of the Roman empire, the beginning of the dark ages. That the US won’t suffer that fate in my lifetime is because of immagration, and for that I’m grateful.

As for the reason Asian Americans went to Obama rather than Romney, I’d say it’s the total loss of dignity the party has suffed. Culturally dignity is a huge deal to most Asian American cultures (whether or not their culture of origin seems to care), and when you represent yourselves as a bunch of screaming selfdestructive lunatics, you lose the Asian vote with contempt (meaning they’ll go to the other guy). To Asian immigrants, it is important that outsiders see them as respectable, dignified people to be taken seriously and they view their success in this country as an indication that such a disposition works. When they see the party throwing a crazy hissyfit for 4 years because they don’t know how to act when they’re not in power, Asian folks’ll disconnect pretty hard.

Now, that applies to First Generation Asian Immigrants. FOB’s if you will. Second Generation Immagrants generally follow the tradition of eventually voting the opposite of how you percieve your parents. Since most First Gen Immagrants strike their kids as being traditional and old school, they’re going to vote for what is pressed as the liberal/progressive option because being raised by Tiger Mom makes them want to pursue other options.

Mike
Mike

Asians are more cosmopolitan. There are more connected to opinion in the rest of the world where war mongering is unpopular. They are more likely to be academics and less likely to work in the defense industry. They find our culture wars bizarre. They are less likely to live in rural areas. They fear that racism could be directed at them as well as other groups. Many are good at math (that’s just a joke I’m throwing in!).These are also factors in why Jews do not support the GOP – but there are other historical factors as well.

Rainouart
Rainouart

Hey, indian american:

YOU HAVE PROVED “IN SPADES” WHAT I HAVE SUSPECTED FOR A LONG TIME – THAT MINORITIES LIKE YOU VOTE DEMOCRAT BECAUSE YOU ARE ANTI-WHITE RACISTS, AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS NOW A PARTY WHOSE WHOLE APPEAL IS ANTI-WHITE RACISM. AND THE FASCIST MEDIA CONTINUALLY REINFORCES YOUR NATIVE RACISM WITH BIGOTED STEREOTYPES OF WHITES — WHICH YOU LAP UP BECAUSE THE RACIST STEREOTYPING GLORIFIES YOUR ANTI-WHITE RACIST VANITY.
The republican party comes across as the the party of sanctimonious white Christians.
OH? AND WHAT ABOUT SANCTIMONIOUS HINDUS? (OH, RIGHT, NO SUCH THING — ONLY WHITE CHRISTIANS CAN BE SANCTIMONIOUS.)
The economic message is lost in the bible thumping.
BALONEY — THE MESSAGE IS 9/10 ECONOMIC AND 1/10 OR LESS “BIBLE THUMPING”. IT’S JUST THAT YOUR ELECTRONIC DEMAGOGUE — CALL IT “DEMOCRAT T.V.” FOR ACCURACY — S-A-I-D “THEY’RE JUST A BUNCH OF BIBLE-THUMPERS” AND YOU BELIEVED IT … AND YOU BELIEVED IT NOT BECAUSE IT’S TRUE BUT BECAUSE YOU’RE A RACIST.
Example: very wealthy Indian American doctor will not vote for Republicans b/c of a speech at the RNC convention years ago talking about how we are a judeo-christian nation for judeo christians…blah, blah.
YEARS AGO?? SUCH IMPRESSIONS ONLY STICK BECAUSE THE RACIST HATE THAT WAS ALREADY THERE GAVE IT THE EMOTIONAL PUNCH THAT MAKES PIDDLY SHIT LIKE THAT STICK. THAT DOCTOR MUST BE A HORSE’S ASS TO VOTE AGAINST HIS OWN ECONOMIC SELF-INTEREST JUST TO GET EVEN WITH THE HONK, BUT SUCH IS THE POWER OF RACIST HATE. OH HEAVENS, I FORGOT. TAKE THAT BACK — ONLY THE HONKY CAN BE A RACIST, NEVER AN INDIAN-“AMERICAN” WHO HATES AMERICANS THAT ARE UNLIKE HIMSELF.
These impressions stick. True or not, the image is one of white smugness and intolerance. And this image is only growing…
SO WHO IS SMUG AND INTOLERANT? O-F C-O-U-R-S-E IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE IF IT ISN’T TRUE — DOES RACISM CARE IF IT’S TRUE OR NOT? NO, IT’S HAVING TOO MUCH FUN: “LET’S VOTE FOR OBOMINATION AND STUFF IT TO THE HONK!”

Moreover, asian americans do not identify with the image of the tea party. Guns, slogans, racial undertones.
THE ONLY “RACIAL” UNDERTONES CONSIST IN THE SLANDEROUS IMAGE PRESENTED BY DEMOCRAT T.V. — BUT YOU ARE SUCH A COCK THAT YOU BELIEVE IT INSTANTLY BECAUSE YOUR PRE-EXISTING ANTI-WHITE RACISM, WHICH YOU PROBABLY BROUGHT WITH YOU FROM INDIA, IS LEGITIMIZED (SEEMINGLY). OH WAIT, I FORGOT, THERE IS NO RACISM IN INDIA. ONLY THE HONK CAN BE A RACIST.
ALSO, IT’S QUITE CLEAR THAT 1776 DOESN’T MEAN A THING TO YOU INDIAN-“AMERICANS”. YOU COULDN’T CARE LESS ABOUT IT UNLESS THERE’S SOMETHING IN IT FOR YOU. AND YOUR T.V. DEMAGOGUE OF COURSE WASHES YOUR BRAIN OF ANY IDEA THAT THERE IS ANYTHING IN IT FOR YOU — ESPECIALLY WITH RACIST STEREOTYPES ABOUT SOME OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS WHO OWNED SLAVES.
SO LET’S SEE — YOU PREEN YOURSELVES ON YOUR MORAL SUPERIORITY, EVEN THOUGH IF IT WERE NOT FOR THE LINGERING INFLUENCE OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE AND WHITE ANGLO-SAXON, CHRISTIAN VALUES — INDIA WOULD BE A HELL-HOLE OF CASTE-BASED OPPRESSION (IF IT ISN’T STILL).

I don’t know the stats, but tea partiers are seen as uneducated and there is nothing more important to the Asians than education!
YOU DON’T KNOW A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G EXCEPT WHAT YOUR T.V. DEMAGOGUE TOLD YOU TO THINK. THE TEA PARTY DRAWS ALL TYPES, BUT IT IS ORGANIZED BY PROFESSIONAL-CLASS PEOPLE — GOT IT, KNOW-NOTHING?

Finally, there is a feeling that the conservative values are hogwash. States like WV and Alabama have huge divorce rates and teenage pregnancy; the beacon of conservative values, Sara Palin, has an out of marriage grandchild. (A friend of mine once joked that he married into an Indian family b/c he wanted to experience traditional American values that he didn’t find in American homes! )
ONCE AGAIN, ANOTHER MINDLESS DEMOCRAT T.V.-MADE IMAGE THAT INDIAN RACISTS LOVE BECAUSE IT LEGITIMIZES THEIR PRE-EXISTING ANTI-WHITE RACISM.
I don’t agree with this generalization, but some Asians believe that conservatives are trashy alcoholic whites who don’t practice what they preach.
THEY BELIEVE THAT ABOUT ALL WHITES. EXCEPT THOSE THAT SUCK YOUR ASS BY AGREEING THAT ONLY THE HONKY CAN BE A RACIST.

I don’t agree with all of this, but these are things I have heard over and over.
PROVING HOW WIDESPREAD INDIAN RACISM IS.
I am a highly educated Indian-American from a self-made professional family. At home, we are conservative, with a 0% divorce rate, 0% alcoholism rate, and an average income well over $200k. And yes, we are all democrats.
BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL ANTI-WHITES AND THE DHIMMI-CRAT PARTY HAS STAKED ITS FUTURE ON CONDONING AND EVEN ENCOURAGING ANTI-WHITE RACISM — WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THEIR TELEVISION MIND-CONTROL CARTEL. BUT THIS CARTEL WOULDN’T HAVE ANY POWER OVER YOUR MIND UNLESS YOU WEREN’T ALREADY CORRUPT WITH RACISM: ALL THE T.V. CAN DO, BASICALLY, IS REINFORCE A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION — (LIKE THE FAMOUS CON-MAN WHO, WHEN THE F.B.I. ASKED HIM HOW HE WAS ABLE TO CON SO MANY PEOPLE, REPLIED “BECAUSE THE SUCKER HAS LARCENY IN HIS HEART”).

OH, AND AS FOR 0% DIVORCE AND ALL THE REST, THAT IS JUST YOUR FAMILY. MY FAMILY HAS THE SAME RECORD, BUT IT DOESN’T COUNT BECAUSE WE’RE JUST A BUNCH OF HONKIES. (NOW, ABOUT INDIA — HOW MUCH HONOR-KILLING IS THERE OVER THERE? OR WIFE-MURDER? EH? OH RIGHT, THAT DOESN’T COUNT BECAUSE IT DOESN’T GLORIFY INDIAN VANITY.
WHILE YOU’RE LOOKING DOWN ON WHITE “SMUGNESS” AND “INTOLERANCE”, MAYBE YOU COULD SPARE A MOMENT FOR LOOKING IN THE MIRROR — CANDIDLY THIS TIME.

Moderator- if you find this post offensive, please consider the points and incorporate them into your own comments if you like.
I AM NOT THE MODERATOR, BUT I DO FIND IT OFFENSIVE. BUT DON’T WORRY, IT WON’T BE DELETED. THE HONKY’S OFFENDEDNESS DOESN’T COUNT!!
I don’t think the Mormon aspect was at all relevant. I would not describe Asians as tolerant of other religions– it is more like indifference.

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