Why aren’t there calls to ban drugging our children from the libtards? Maybe it’s because the drug companies spend billions advertising on these libtard MSM stations and newspapers. The politicians and brainless twit pundits bow down to their corporate masters. They don’t give a shit about children. They give a shit about profits, control and power.
Tragedy
Gunsville, USA
December 17, 2012
As I lollygagged around the packed convention floor at the Eastman Gun Show in Gainesville, GA amid thousands of guns and what seemed like millions of bullets, it occurred to me that I’ve never heard of a mass shooting at a gun show.
This was on Saturday afternoon, a day after 20-year-old Adam Lanza went on a shooting spree that left twenty-eight dead. Lanza first murdered his mother at home, then drove to a local elementary school and blew away 20 children and six staff members before killing himself. He reportedly used guns that were legally registered to his mother after having been denied an application to obtain a rifle himself earlier in the week due to Connecticut’s relatively strict gun laws.
Before all the blood had time to dry, pro-government zombie toady scribes were shrieking for more “gun control” and insisting that “something” must be done NOW. They trotted out the tired meme that the “gun lobby” is very powerful and has a lot of money behind it—as if the government they dutifully worship doesn’t have far more power and money than the NRA. One went so far as to proclaim that “no person in the United States Of America should own a gun, unless they’re a police officer or a soldier.” And of course, “white men” were blamed, albeit by one white man after the next.
Protected on all sides by well-armed Secret Service members, Barack Obama’s eyes grew misty as he proclaimed it was time to “take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this.” New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg also screamed from behind his posse of armed bodyguards for more gun control. Taking time off from repeatedly authorizing billions in taxes to bomb the shit out of the Middle East, other politicians decried the USA’s “gun culture.”
The Soros shills at Think Progress, who never seemed to meet a white male they liked nor a government regulation they didn’t like, hastily cobbled together “A Timeline Of Mass Shootings In The US Since Columbine.”
As always, anyone who writes for George Soros turns out to be—oh, what’s the word?—instructive. Much can be learned merely from taking their list of spree killers and digging a little more deeply. In most cases, the following massacres occurred in so-called “gun-free zones” that gun-control advocates naively thought would help prevent gun violence rather than encourage it:
• An autopsy concluded that Columbine killer Eric Harris had the SSRI antidepressant Fluvoxamine in his bloodstream at the time of his death.
• Jeff Weise, who killed nine people and himself at a Minnesota high school in 2005, was taking increasingly high doses of Prozac at the time of his spree.
• Robert Hawkins, who killed eight people and himself at an Omaha mall in 2007, reportedly “had been on antidepressants” at the time of his shooting. He allegedly had taken antidepressants since he was six years old.
• Seung-Hui Cho, who killed 32 and wounded 23 at Virginia Tech in 2007, had been prescribed Prozac and had previously taken Paxil for a year, but he apparently had ceased taking his medication at the time of the shooting.
• Andrew Engeldinger killed five people and himself after being fired from his job in 2012. A police search of his house revealed he’d been prescribed the antidepressants Mirtazapine and Trazodone, as well as the insomnia medication Temazepam.
• Eduardo Sencion, who killed four people and himself with an assault rifle at a Utah IHOP in 2011, was a paranoid schizophrenic whose “medications were changed” during the summer prior to his attack.
• Robert Kenneth Stewart, who murdered eight people at a North Carolina nursing home in 2009, submitted to a blood test that revealed he had Lexapro, Ambien, Benadryl, and Xanax in his system at the time of his spree.
• Steven Kazmierczak, who killed five people and himself on Valentine’s Day in 2008, had allegedly been prescribed Xanax, Ambien, and Prozac, although according to his girlfriend he had stopped taking Prozac prior to the massacre.
• James Eagan Holmes, who shot up a Colorado movie theater in July, reportedly took 100MG of Vicodin before the shooting. He had also allegedly seen three school psychiatrists prior to his attack. Although his psychiatric records are privileged information, in his mug shot he appears to be medicated up to the eyeballs.
And Adam Lanza, slayer of over two dozen people on Friday, appears to have had a classic pair of Medication Eyes himself. He was also reportedly “troubled” and possibly “autistic.” A neighbor of Lanza’s claims he was taking medication.
It’s also mildly amusing/disturbing how closely all the nerdy, medicated, spree-killing geeks resemble the progressive pundits who are caterwauling for unilateral disarmament of the citizenry. They look nothing like the fat and hairy—yet unmistakably male—Georgia hilljacks who milled around the gun show in Gainesville. And although I’m supposed to fear those “angry white males,” I felt far less hostility emanating from the convention floor than I do whenever I’m around leftist girly-boys.
I stopped at one table to chat with an amiably burly gun dealer. He had a walrus mustache and looked vaguely like a Turkish oil wrestler, but when he opened his mouth and started talking, he was undeniably a Georgia good old boy.
I asked him about Friday’s massacre, and although he prefaced his comments by stating he doesn’t watch the news, he cast his eyes downward and said he heard about the shooting and considered it a genuine tragedy. He said he thinks the main problem is that “crazy” people are no longer institutionalized because all of a sudden they have “rights” to live under bridges and be as schizoid as they wanna be.
A full-time farmer and a part-time gun dealer, he added that you don’t need guns to kill people, citing Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, whom he cursed for using a fertilizer bomb and thus making it difficult for him to buy the ammonium nitrate he needs to raise his corn at a profit.
He said he realizes that Friday’s bloodbath will lead to increased calls for disarming the public, although he’s unsure how authorities will be able to pry away an estimated 300 million or so firearms from the public’s hands without taking totalitarian measures. He said he doesn’t want to give up his guns, but neither does he want to get in a shooting match with the government, because “government IS a gun that’s pointed in your face.”
And that’s probably the most brilliant argument I’ve ever heard against so-called gun control. Government IS a gun. It exists through threat of force far more than via the illusion of consent. I pity all the fools who think that by disarming the public, they’re fighting “the power,” when they’re only the willing tools of the biggest gang with the biggest guns.
ThePessimisticChemist says:
Police and soldiers, because they have such a great track record. The number of civilian dead in the middle east due to USA “accidental” fire is at war crime levels.
As for our police, they are 5 times more likely to mistakenly fire upon someone as a conceal and carry citizen.
On topic: Big pharma is scary powerful, and I include companies like Monsanto in that group. They have the kind of money that can buy and sell countries, with room to spare, and to make matters worse, once you are hooked on their “product” its damned hard to get off of.
My wife still suffers from withdrawal symptoms from the SSRI she was taking a couple of years ago. She eased off slowly over the course of nine months, and still has withdrawal symptoms.
I was on ADHD meds strong enough to make me almost catatonic, and suffered from some pretty bizarre behavioral issues when I went off of it.
After all of these years, our race still wants to believe in magic. It used to be hedge doctors, then fortune tellers and snake oil salesman. Today its pharmacotics.
Take this magic pill to make your depression go away! No life changes necessary!
Brats won’t shut up? Just give them this pill!
Disgusting.
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19th December 2012 at 9:53 am
Thinker says:
Great summary of the situation.
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19th December 2012 at 10:09 am
sangell says:
I’m not going to jump on the pill industry. I’ve never taken these drugs but many thousands if not millions have and all but a statistically insignificant number manage to refrain going on a murderous rampage. I am reminded Charles Whitman, the first madman on a rampage in modern times was suffering from a brain tumor and people say his personality seemed to change rapidly in the last couple of months of his life. No doubt but he was making conscious decisions when he took a rifle up the university bell tower and opened fire on the people below. He may have been tormented but he wasn’t so tormented as to not conceal his weapon and intentions when he climbed those stairs.
The same could be said for most every so called madman who goes on a rampage. They either seek to escape or commit suicide when the jig is up. They are under no illusions as to the consequences they face after they start killing people. This ridiculous Adam Lanza character had to shoot his mother less she alert police that her son had stolen her guns and was on the prowl.
He carefully destroyed his hard drive too to prevent police from discovering any thoughts or activities he may have been involved in prior to committing his unspeakable actions.
An addict maybe in the throws of withdrawal and be physically sick but that does not mean they have no free will. They can go rob someone to get money for more drugs or they can go to a hospital and ask for help. The same can be said for a mentally ill person. I have noted before that even the craziest person who claims voices tell him to attack a stranger on the street finds those voices shut up when the only available person to attack is somone much larger than he or is a cop with a Glock on his hip. I have even half jokingly noted that a Sheriff deputy with nothing more than pepper spray and his night stick can restore ‘sanity’ faster and at lower cost than any mental
health professional because the insane are not completely nuts. When they realize all they are going to get from continuing their outburst is a world of hurt they calm down.
Now there maybe some drugs that are so powerful they override this self preservation mechanism. Bath salts and PCP come to mind but they are not prescribed by any doctor and they would also appear to be so powerful any organized course of action, even an insane one such as attacking an elementary school, seem to be beyond the ability of a person who’s brain is being short circuited by these chemical.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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19th December 2012 at 10:45 am
OF says:
That´s a good one… leftist girly-boys….
That hurts.
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19th December 2012 at 12:15 pm
Bullock says:
Sangell, Until you have first hand experience with any of the various drugs doctors love to hand out you are just guessing what they can or cannot do. I have ADHD and I can tell you first hand I would rather deal with ADHD straight then with any of the crap the Drs. give you. They started me at 10 years old on Ritalin. Luckily I had a very good mother who after I told her I did not like the meds she let me quit and never once suggested I try any other meds.
When I was older and running a successful business I decided to try some of these new drugs for ADHD. What a nightmare that was. If you told the doctor what you were taking did not seem to work so you could function as a normal human he would either up the dose or put you on some other crap that was usually more mind altering. And getting of all this shit is an accomplishment even my mother would be proud of. I believe a weak minded person would just stay on the drug.
The guns are not the problem, the person behind the gun is.
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19th December 2012 at 1:00 pm
Stucky says:
Folks …. I have been tirelessly scanning various newspapers from across the land.
It seems it is NEARLY UNIVERSALthat the nation’s editors are Pro Gun Control ,,,, with more than just a few wanting to bans guns alltogether,
Crapshit like this. “One Nation Under Siege”
And soon thereafter the dumbshit braindead sheeple all cry out that guns are “baa baaa baaad”
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19th December 2012 at 1:29 pm
Stucky says:
“I’m not going to jump on the pill industry” —- sangell
Did you do your homework?
No, you did not. Otherwise you wouldn’t write something so ridicules.
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19th December 2012 at 1:34 pm
Stucky says:
Reasonable people with half a brain would look at the following two facts;
1) They would note the HORRIBLE side effects of the pill BEFORE taking them
2) They would note the HORRIBLE side effects of the pill AFTER trying to stop taking them
and they would conclude; “Shit is fucked up and shit!!!”.
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19th December 2012 at 1:38 pm
AWD says:
Some facts.
There are 100 million people on Welfare. They get free healthcare and free meds.
Those on welfare qualified because they had children (they can’t possibly pay for), and so now get free housing, free transportation, free food, free phones, even computers and internet free in Illinois.
Every single person on Welfare knows you can get your kids on disability by getting them diagnosed with a behavioral disorder, ADHD being the most common. It’s easier than peeing into a urinal, and the teachers want the kids to be zombies/controllable at school.
Millions and millions of Welfare parents get their kids on meds, then get one or several disability checks every month for the kids on meds. An extra $2000 to $3000 per month. A great many of the parents then sell their kid’s meds, because, after all, they are nothing but amphetamine, which has a respectable street value. Voila, a large percentage of 100 million people cash in, and their kids suffer the consequences. It’s not about the kids or the drug companies, it’s about the lazy shithead parents that won’t work and prostitute their kids for cash.
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19th December 2012 at 1:56 pm
sangell says:
Bullock, the point is not that drugs do not have side effect or that over subscribing doesn’t happen. It is that is no excuse for going into a first grade classroom and killing kids. The fact that a person is still capable of committing such a deranged but nonetheless organized activity as that shows their is still a functioning mind at work. Lanza did not attack the Newtown police station. He went to a place where he was reasonably sure he could get away with it and derive whatever thrill he got from dominating, terrorizing and killing helpless people. When the police drew near he escaped the consequences of his act the only way he could by killing himself.
People can be mentally ill but that does not mean they have lost the ability to tell right from wrong. James Holmes has attempted to commit suicide since his arrest and it maybe that he and Jared Loughner will never stand trial or be adjudicated as not guilty by reason of insanity but they were perfectly aware that what they were doing was wrong. I do not believe in demonic possession and even the insane don’t want to have done to them what they are doing to others.
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19th December 2012 at 2:18 pm
Ron says:
I dont see how anyone could be so drunk or high that they would go around shooting kids.Or anyone for that matter.
Unfortunately like 911 and it paving the way for a police state.I wonder if this tragedy well be used to grab guns.
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19th December 2012 at 2:29 pm
KaD says:
Sometimes it sucks to be right; or in my case alot of the time: http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-lanza-taking-antipsychotic-fanapt-2012-12
The Antipsychotic Prescribed To Adam Lanza Has A Troubled History
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19th December 2012 at 2:47 pm
Bullock says:
Sangell, the drugs I believe are what makes these people go over the edge. One of many reasons I quit taking any of those meds is how they altered my thinking, and not in a good way at all. It scared the hell out of me.
And for the cocksuckers monitoring this site, I quit taking that crap years ago so I am back on earth. Please don’t try to take my guns away, I am not ready to die yet.
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19th December 2012 at 3:10 pm
Petey says:
A couple of points…
I read a quote re: side effects one time and googled it and can’t find who originally said it, but it is true:
‘Drugs don’t have “side effects.” They have a range of effects, one or more of which is “desireable.”‘
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sangell said: “… I’ve never taken these drugs but many thousands if not millions have and all but a statistically insignificant number manage to refrain going on a murderous rampage.”
- to which I have to say that you don’t hear about the suicides or attempted suicides or the assaults or the non-spectacular murders and murder-suicides by people who use these drugs. Since you brought up statistics, thank you for providing an example of sampling error.
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19th December 2012 at 3:27 pm
Wade Watts says:
You don’t teach a mentally ill child how to shoot a gun because you think it will help you bond to the child and you keep the guns locked up and secure from a child that has shown he has mental issues. His mom, unfortunately, died due to her own huge mistakes in allowing access to her weapons. This child knew he was getting ready to be committed to a mental institution and wanted to destroy everything related to the person that was taking away his life as he knew it. Sad story of human error, not a gun issue.
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19th December 2012 at 10:18 pm
SSS says:
@ Bullock
+10 for your comments, particularly since the comments come from someone who has suffered from ADHD. I hope you and dozens of other people like you are called to testify in Congress about the horrific effects of psychotropic drugs.
@ sangell, who said, “I’ve never taken these drugs but many thousands if not millions have and all but a statistically insignificant number manage to refrain going on a murderous rampage.”
“Statistically insignificant” equates to the people who show up at shopping malls, college campuses, movie theaters, and elementary schools and start slaughtering everyone in sight.
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19th December 2012 at 11:12 pm
sangell says:
And of course if we did a ‘clinical trial’ on eating steak we would find some p factor of those who dined on it and choked to death so we would ban steak? Come on! Think man.
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19th December 2012 at 11:23 pm
SSS says:
sangell
A modest response to your reply to Bullock.
“Bullock, the point is not that drugs do not have side effect or that over subscribing doesn’t happen.”
THAT IS PRECISELY THE POINT. THESE FUCKING DRUGS DO HAVE DANGEROUS SIDE EFFECTS, AND THEY ARE OVERSUBSCRIBED TO CHILDREN WHOSE MINDS AND BODIES ARE STILL DEVELOPING. WE HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT THESE DRUGS DO TO CHILDREN BECAUSE THEY’VE NEVER (CORRECTLY) BEEN TESTED ON CHILDREN.
“It is that is no excuse for going into a first grade classroom and killing kids. The fact that a person is still capable of committing such a deranged but nonetheless organized activity as that shows their is still a functioning mind at work.” WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR DEFINITION OF A “FUNCTIONING MIND.” JESUS CHRIST, MANY SERIAL KILLERS HAVE PROVED TO BE HIGHLY INTELLIGENT WITH CUNNING, FUNCTIONAL MINDS TOTALLY INTACT. TED BUNDY, ANYONE? IT IS HOW, NOT WHETHER, THE MIND IS FUNCTIONING.
I’m trying hard, sangell, with my minimally fuctioning mind, to decide where to place your mind. My choices are “dead on arrival” and “dumbfuck.” I choose both.
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19th December 2012 at 11:36 pm
SSS says:
sangell
When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. Comparing chocking on eating steak to the ill effects of ingestion of psychotropic drugs by children is beyond the pale.
Try and focus. Feeding unproven psychotropic drugs to adolescents is dangerous. Period. The cure is worse than the disease. That’s why I’m an INTJ, and you’re a DMFK.
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19th December 2012 at 11:48 pm
crazyivan says:
“Statistically insignificant” equates to the people who show up at shopping malls, college campuses, movie theaters, and elementary schools and start slaughtering everyone in sight”
Statistics have always had a hollow ring to them. Dead children overseas are the norm, don’t rock the boat.
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19th December 2012 at 12:07 am
SSS says:
@ crazyivan, who said, “Dead children overseas are the norm, don’t rock the boat.”
You post a lot of disjointed, disgruntled, and disjointed bullshit. Would it be too much to ask that, just once, you posted a seriously in-your-face, bring-it comment?
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19th December 2012 at 12:29 am
Novista says:
SSS
I went off thinking about sanjelly’s comments and returned to address them, but you beat me to it and did it betterer.
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19th December 2012 at 9:21 am
Stucky says:
SSS
You’re on a roll, baby!!!!
I think sangell works for, or has ties to, the Pharma industry.
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19th December 2012 at 10:22 am