Feinstein’s Gun Control Bill Will Trigger The Next American Revolution
Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt-Market blog,
All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party – Mao Tse Tung
After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn’t do it. I sure as hell wouldn’t want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military – William Burroughs
Revolution? Yes, it all sounds rather “extreme”, but the cold hard reality of our era is not going to comfort us with diplomacies and niceties, so honestly, why should I have to sugar coat anything? We live in extreme times and there is no longer room for prancing around the ultimate consequences of that which is taking place in America today. This country is increasingly sliding towards the edge of internal conflict. The Liberty Movement and true Constitutionalists see it, subsections of Republicans and Democrats see it, and most of all, the federal government sees it. In fact, they may even be counting on it.
Over the past two years alone, multiple draconian policies have been enacted through executive order by the Obama Administration which build upon the civil liberty crushing actions of George W. Bush and press far beyond. The Patriot Acts, the FISA domestic spy bill, the bailouts of corrupt international banks, attempts at CISPA and SOPA, actions like the NDAA authorizing the treatment of U.S. citizens as “enemy combatants” without rights to due process; all paint a picture so clear only a one-celled amoeba (or your average suburban yuppie) would not see it. You and I, and everyone else for that matter, have been designated potential targets of the state. Our rights have been made forfeit.
There is no ambiguous or muddled separation between the citizenry and the government anymore. The separation is absolute. It is undeniable. It is vast. It is only a matter of time and momentum, and eventually there will be unbridled oppression, dissent, and conflict. All that is required is a trigger, and I believe that trigger has arrived…
Though made to appear “complex”, the gun control debate is actually an incredibly simple issue. It all boils down to a couple of questions which gun grabbers rarely ask: How does the 2nd Amendment affect the future? That is to say, what was the original intent, and should we still value that intent as it applies to tomorrow? And, what will really happen if it is forcibly removed? Gun opponents act as though they are unaware of these questions, or maybe they don’t care. However, it is vital to their safety and the safety of our culture in general that they do finally consider the bigger picture.
We’ve all heard the prefabricated gun control talking points before. Some of them so old they predate us. They are numerous and most of them incredibly thin. The gist of the anti-gun position, though, could be boiled down to these three points…
Common Anti-Gun Arguments:
1) The 2nd Amendment is “outdated” and no longer relevant in today’s modern society.
2) We do not want to stop you from “defending yourself”, or interfere with the American tradition of hunting, but people do not need “military assault weapons” for either.
3) Your claimed freedom to own guns should not supersede my freedom to live without fear of guns. We exist in a society, and our society requires us to give up certain freedoms so that it can function.
Again, in response to these arguments, I have to ask, what does the 2nd Amendment mean for the future? What was its original intent? Gun control advocates would like to ignore the fact that the Constitution specifically protects a broad application of gun ownership, but when they cannot deny the legality of it, they instead turn to more abstract and existential methods of attack. They try to twist the original intent of the 2nd Amendment to further their goals. To respond briefly to each of the above fallacies:
1) The right to self defense from ANY threat, whether it be an individual, or a criminal government, does not “outdate”. It is a universal and eternal freedom. It is a foundational pillar of natural law. Even if the 2nd Amendment did not exist, I would still have the inborn right to arm and protect myself and those I love, and the best way to do that is to own firearms. The men who drafted the Constitution were far more intelligent than any pithy gun grabber today, yet, these socialist errand boys seem to believe that they have “surpassed” the wisdom of the Founders. The amount of ego required to fuel such an attitude boggles the mind…
Gun violence and violence in general will not end simply by banning firearms. The very idea that any society can remove all weapons from their sight is naïve to begin with. Criminals always find a way. Murder, rape, and mayhem will continue until you confront the root problem, which is the human mind, and the human heart. Only when these two things are balanced in all people will violence end. Disarming good men and women has never made a society “safer”. When the power of defense is removed from the people, someone, somewhere, will seek to abuse their weakness. The most armed entity of the time invariably becomes the subjugator, and usually this is the government. Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, Mao’s China, Pol Pot’s Cambodia, etc, all contained disarmed populations. The guns were gone, and still millions upon millions died. Modern day Mexico is a perfect example of a disarmed population that is now living in terror because of criminal organizations (which, of course, still have guns). Disarmament does NOT end gun violence, it only changes the dynamic of who uses that violence, and it makes innocent victims easier to attack.
2) Because the legal argument over the “interpretation” of the 2nd Amendment is essentially over, and the Supreme Court has ruled that gun rights do indeed apply to individuals, and not just collective bodies like the National Guard, gun grabbers are now reverting to the argument that we ARE allowed to defend ourselves with firearms, but the kinds of firearms we are able to use can still be limited. The goal of this argument is to fool gun owners who only possess conventional firearms (hunting rifles) into believing that they will not be personally affected if they support a ban on military style weapons. These wishy-washy hunting enthusiasts are often referred to as “Elmer Fudds” because of their gullibility.
All gun confiscation programs start by chipping away at the outer barriers of gun ownership. Like termites slowly chewing away at the wooden skeleton of a home, anti-gun proponents start small and end by destroying the entire edifice. Anyone who believes Feinstein’s legislation will begin and end with AR-15’s and AK-47’s is living in fantasy land. That said, the 2nd Amendment was not established for hunting purposes. Nowhere in the writings of the Founding Fathers do they mention “hunting” as their primary concern. Instead, gun rights are protected in order to ensure that the citizenry remains dominant over any centralized government that turns to corruption. We are supposed to police our own political leaders, and without military style arms, this becomes increasingly difficult.
Gun grabbers will argue that our government is not the enemy because it is derived through democratic elections. They will say that we can change it anytime we like in the voting box. I would point out that regardless of which party is placed in power through elections, nothing in terms of our direction as a country has been changed, and, that both parties support almost identical policies. For instance, Obama has come out in favor of nearly identical policy initiatives to Bush, and I can almost guarantee that many Republicans will sign onto the gun control efforts of Democrats despite their supposed pro-gun rhetoric. When the two party system becomes a one party system, voting becomes irrelevant.
Finally, they will admonish the idea of an armed citizenry keeping the government in check as a “fairy tale”. They will claim that in the face of modern military might, constitutionalists would be crushed. For what can an AK-47 do to an F-15? Apparently, they have never heard of Afghanistan, which has used AK-47’s and 30 year old armaments to repel two technologically advanced armies; the Soviet Union and the U.S. Of course, the Afghanis did not allow themselves to be disarmed…
3) Here is where we get into the nonsense of intellectual idiocy. The only real skill which academics seem to have is jumbling piles of logical fallacies together to make a single argument that sounds “rational”, but, in fact, isn’t. The third debate point is an extremely collectivist one, and collectivist arguments generally exploit the idea that individuals must sacrifice their personal freedoms in order for the group to function.
The truth is, the group does not matter. The perceived collective concerns and fears of a mass of people are not relevant. All that matters are the concerns of the singular man or woman, and whether or not those concerns are legitimate. If a person “fears” guns and gun violence, then that is their private problem, not the problem of our entire society. We as gun owners should not have to relinquish our rights because others are afraid of what MIGHT happen to them. We should demand that they control THEIR fear, instead of being allowed to control OUR guns. Just because a portion of our country shares this individual fear does not make that fear any more credible, or any more our problem.
Do They Know What They Are In For…?
Feinstein’s campaign for gun control is not hers alone; it has been the overall establishment’s work in progress for decades. I covered the broad based arguments of gun control advocates above because I wanted to illustrate the tangibility of gun ownership. I want to show you where we stand as constitutionalists, and I can say confidently that our moral and intellectual footing is strong. To be clear, when defenders of a particular idea are right in their position, they are much more likely to fight and die for that position, and they are much more likely to win.
In the beginning I asked what the 2nd Amendment means for the future of this country. Not only if it continues, but if it disappears. If I was a gun control proponent, I would weigh the aftereffects of my actions carefully, because the penalties will likely be dire…
I have heard it argued that Americans are passive. We didn’t rise up against the last Assault Weapons Ban. We didn’t rise up against the Patriot Act. We didn’t rise up against TSA molestation. We didn’t rise up against warrantless wiretapping, the assassination of U.S. citizens, or even the NDAA. The people who make this point, though, are not looking at the larger issue. It is one thing for our government to pass legislation; the wider application of that legislation on our streets and at our doorsteps is another matter.
Feinstein’s bill is unprecedented in the history of this country, and requires widespread enforcement in every town and hamlet in order to be effective. The way in which it is designed makes a violent response from the public inevitable. It reaches far beyond the Assault Weapons Ban of the 1990’s, calling for the creation of a massive database of almost all gun owners in the United States. This database will require citizens to submit their EXISTING firearms to cataloging, and the owners to be filed and fingerprinted like criminals.
The bill will ban the outright the sale, manufacture, and transfer of at least 120 models of firearms (which have not yet been named). It will ban the manufacture and sale of most if not all semi-automatic rifles and the bill specifically targets handguns as well. Large capacity mags and mag fed weapons will essentially disappear from gun stores. Though, those guns designated as “hunting rifles” will be exempt (for now).
Feinstein has also openly agreed with NY Governor Andrew Cuomo that government buy back programs (forced selling of firearms at a reduced price) and even physical confiscations are on the table:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/sen.-feinstein-suggests-national-buyback-of-guns/article/2516648
To put this bluntly, there are approximately 50 million gun owners (according to official estimates) in the United States. If only 2% of those gun owners refuse to submit to the Feinstein Database, and the feds attempt confiscation, they will have a massive revolution on their hands.
Many Americans, including myself, will not be strolling into the local Fusion Center to register our weapons. Why? Because gun registration reeks of fascism! Some might call this “cliche”, but let’s just examine the guidelines of the Nazi Gun Registration Program of 1938:
- Classified guns for “sporting purposes”
- All citizens who wished to purchase firearms had to register with the Nazi officials and have a background check.
- Presumed German citizens were hostile and thereby exempted Nazis from the gun control law (meaning officials could have guns, citizens could not).
- Gave Nazis unrestricted power to decide what kinds of firearms could, or could not be owned by private persons.
- The types of ammunition that were legal were subject to control by bureaucrats.
- Juveniles under 18 years could not buy firearms and ammunition.
You see, we’ve witnessed the Feinstein gun bill before, many times through history. We know how it ends, so, there is very little incentive for us to go along quietly.
The database itself is truly the crux of it all. It basically begs to be defied. When a government has become openly hostile to common people, destructive of their economy, and oppressive of their individual rights, it only follows that gun registration will lead to outright confiscation later down the road or imprisonment for the owner. Many Americans are simply not going to fall into the same trap that past societies have fallen into. The eventual refusal of millions of citizens to voluntarily register will lead to a definite federal response.
The Department Of Homeland Security has obviously taken this into account, at least partly, by stockpiling over 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the span of a year, most of which are used in weapons distributed by the government for domestic enforcement. Their projected scenario, I believe, involves limited resistance from people like myself; “gun nuts” and “liberty freaks” who are on the “fringe” of the populous. At least, that’s what the headlines will say. In the end, who will care if a few “conspiracy theorists” take a bullet in the quest to end gun violence, right? But then again…
What I see in America is a much harder stance against gun confiscation than at any time in recent memory, and far less compromising than in the 1990’s. Gun grabbers are, in my view, walking into a hornets nest. Most average firearms enthusiast may be less aware of the deeper problems at hand, but they know when they are about to be raped, and will react in kind. We in the Liberty Movement are often accused of “radicalizing” people against government authority, but I have to say, if that is the case, then the Feds are doing a much better job than we ever could.
Simultaneously, the UN (which most gun owners despise) is helping matters along by using the recent Sandy Hook shooting as a springboard for a reintroduction of their failed international Small Arms Treaty:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/28/un-arms-treaty-nra_n_2373417.html
“European and other U.N. delegates who support the arms trade treaty told Reuters on condition of anonymity they hoped Newtown would boost support for the convention in the United States, where gun control is an explosive political issue.”
“Newtown has opened the debate within the United States on weapons controls in ways that it has not been opened in the past,” Abramson said, adding that “the conversation within the U.S. will give the (Obama) administration more leeway.”
The UN has always claimed that their small arms treaty would NOT restrict private gun ownership in the U.S., and that it only deals with the international trade of illicit arms. Yet, they try to use gun control actions in the face of Sandy Hook as a rationale for reopening negotiations? They can’t have it both ways. Either they are trying to tie the treaty to domestic gun ownership in the U.S, or they aren’t. Will our government sign on to an international agreement to restrict private gun ownership on top of Feinstein’s gun grab bill?
To put this in the most basic terms: registration and restriction equals revolution. Count on it. It is not a matter of what we “want”, it is a matter of what is necessary. Without a citizenry armed with weapons of military application, we lose our last deterrent to tyranny, and thus, we lose everything. When backed into a corner, a victim has two options: he can lie down and die, or, he can fight regardless of the odds. Sadly, this is where we are in America; fear, servitude, subservience, or civil war.
Let us hope our weapons are never needed –but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government — and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws – Edward Abbey
Ron says:
While im pro gun,I dont see the populace in fire fights with the government.
Shoulder fired rockets and missles helped defeat the russians in Afganistan.
The military remembering theyre pledge to fight enemys foriegn and domestic.Is what is going to save the country.
But tyrants like an unarmed populace.
I fear the general population dosent have the will or balls to just be civily disobediant to an unjust government.
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28th December 2012 at 2:55 pm
AWD says:
After they take away the real guns, they’ll go after the toy guns:
In the spirit of that message, and following the violent gun killing of 26 people, including 20 children ages 6 and 7, at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, the Alliance for Survival peace group based in Santa Monica, California will once again resume their “No Toy Guns Merit Award Project”, offering the awards to children and families who pledge to not buy or play with toy guns.
http://notoyguns.org/
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28th December 2012 at 2:56 pm
AWD says:
I just signed up with the NRA today, does that make me an enemy of the state?
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28th December 2012 at 2:57 pm
harry p. says:
I literally finished reading this and posting it on my site not even 30 mins ago.
I like Smith’s rationale on things but I am not optimistic about how many people will simply roll over and die.
The most important thing he wrote is:
“The truth is, the group does not matter. The perceived collective concerns and fears of a mass of people are not relevant. All that matters are the concerns of the singular man or woman, and whether or not those concerns are legitimate. If a person “fears” guns and gun violence, then that is their private problem, not the problem of our entire society. We as gun owners should not have to relinquish our rights because others are afraid of what MIGHT happen to them. We should demand that they control THEIR fear, instead of being allowed to control OUR guns. Just because a portion of our country shares this individual fear does not make that fear any more credible, or any more our problem.”
http://thestrangestbrew.com/?p=3455
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28th December 2012 at 3:02 pm
harry p. says:
AWD, that’s funny because I called the NRA to tell them I will no longer be an active member after 8 years. Their initial silence and overall BS coming from their mouths left me disgusted. Playing the game of “Look Over There” by blaming violent video games and recommedning armed guards at schools instead of addressing the real problem pissed me off. The problem isn’t a lack of govt, it is too much govt in the first place.
I then went to drop an “obama” in the toilet yesterday morning and saw an old issue of my NRA magazine in the basket that touted Romney leading up to the election and I finally had had it and called their subscription service line to tell them to keep my remaining dues I have already paid but any further requests for renewal will be shredded and shipped back to them in their postage paid envelope.
this is what I think of that BS lobby group
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28th December 2012 at 3:11 pm
Administrator says:
Posted 2012-12-28 09:44
by Karl Denninger
Mass-Shooting At Police Station (Over Rather Quickly!)
Gee, what’s the difference between a school and a police station?
The early Friday morning shooting apparently occurred inside the police station, possibly near a stairwell in the rear of the building. Police said a suspect was under arrest in connection with a domestic violence-related incident when a struggle with officers ensued at around 5:30 a.m. The suspect “obtained a firearm” during the struggle, police sources said. Officers then returned fire, killing the unidentified suspect.
No kidding? You mean that all those cops were not unarmed and thus subject to being targets when the suspect decided he wanted to grab someone’s gun and start shooting?
Funny how that works; one officer shot but in stable condition, and two more with superficial injuries. The shooter, for his part, is dead.
Now think about how many cops would have been shot and killed had they not been armed.
No, being a good guy with a gun is no guarantee when a bad guy with a gun shows up and starts shooting. However, when a bad guy shows up and starts shooting if the good guys have guns it certainly beats the alternative, which is being a good guy but unarmed, and thus being rendered a victim with no means of defending yourself — or anyone else.
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28th December 2012 at 3:23 pm
Micro-Be says:
The only shooting war Americans will get into with the government is if they attempted to confiscate telescreens…er televisions. We know that isn’t going to happen. The soul of the nation is mass media, without which the elites couldn’t bilk the populace.
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28th December 2012 at 3:40 pm
Stucky says:
It’s not that I didn’t like the article … I did, but …..
American people will revolt because of gun control?? Y-A-W-N. Somebody wake me up when the first shot is fired.
Oh, boy! Here we go with thumbs down …
I am starting to get fucking sick and tired about reading that such & such event (you pick ‘em) will be THE event that is; the Sarajevo event leading to WWIII, the Black Swan, the straw that breaks the camel’s back, a False Flag , the Tipping Point, the Seed to the Revolution, TEOTWAWKI …… sick and fucking tired, I tell you.
Yes, I am becoming one of the townspeople who heard the cry of “Wolf!!” too many times to give a shit. Sure, one day the little Doomsday Boy crier WILL be correct. But, how many more fucking times in 2013 will I hear … “THIS IS IT!! THIS IS THE BIG ONE, MABEL!”. How many???
Fuckit. When it comes, it comes. Maybe I’ll be ready, maybe I won’t. But I can’t live with this fucking F.E.A.R. Shit anymore. Things GOTTA change for me in 2013. For one thing, I am going to cut WAAAAY back on trolling the internet for news. Recommitting to turning off MSM TV, for good. Fuckit. All doom, all gloom, all lies, all the time. That worked well for a while. But I’m getting sick of that shit.
Fuckit. I AM – I swear — just going to stick my head in the sand in 2013 to see how that works. What difference does it make whether or not I’m “informed”? I’m starting to envy people who don’t know shit about their surroundings. It least they seem happy. A roof over your head, a good meal, a little pussy, some fun money to attend a NASCAR event, and a bottle of good Tequilla. I’m all in. The New American Dream.
And, no, I am NOT kidding.
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28th December 2012 at 3:56 pm
Oscar Mannheim says:
Mr. Smith talks a good game, but what has he done other than talk? What’s his military experience? How about his years in a guerrilla group? Committed crimes? Been in jail for civil unrest? I don’t think I’d be too quick to follow this young man into the fray when he decides he’s John Brown, assuming he ever decides to do something more than write inflammatory fantasy material. Citations from Chairman Mao and Edward Abbey, gov. employee and author of the Monkey Wrench Gang! Pretty funny! When he starts quoting General Giap (still living at 101!), I might take him a bit more seriously.
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28th December 2012 at 4:15 pm
Hope@ZeroKelvin says:
Perhaps this proposed gun legislation is merely a PROVOCATION, to see how close the people are to Greek style riots.
Step back a bit and think about the relentless consolidation of power in the fed.gov by Obama’s EOs, by the billions of rounds bought by the fed.gov, by the DHS sponsored attack on preppers/gun owners/patriots/etc.
I think the fed.gov is just going to continue to goad, attack, intimidate, whatever, us so they have a justification for a withering response, ie, to wipe us out.
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28th December 2012 at 4:55 pm
youcanthavemyglock says:
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28th December 2012 at 5:38 pm
Yojimbo says:
Brandon Smith used to write very good essays, back when he was discussing philosophy, politics and the dynamics of totalitarianism.
But, once he moved out to Montana (within the past year) and started spending more time around like-minded militia/libertarian/separatists he lost it. All of his articles now are pie-in-the-sky nonsense that is not grounded in reality – and this one is the nail in the coffin of his credibility.
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28th December 2012 at 7:02 pm
Muck About says:
Utah has the right idea.
They just started classes for Concealed Carry for school teachers that want to be armed in the classroom. Overflowing classes.
Some places do it right.
MA
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28th December 2012 at 7:27 pm
Oscar Mannheim says:
Commuters, nine-to-fivers, suburbanites, lunch-bucket wage slaves (if such still exist), paint-ball wankers… the Brandon Smith readership. I’m an old guy with lots of street creds, I live in the vestibule of the elephants’ graveyard for fugitives and failed spies (Paraguay)… Shit, this is ridiculous! Good luck to y’all, because you’ll need it if ever you have to depend on a goop like that kid to lead you in your “revolution”. Hey Mr. Stuck: you seem like a smart guy; just think Chuck Berry “Bye-bye New Jersey I’ve become airborn.” Roll the dice, bro’. Get out of there and it’ll work out or it won’t, but at least you go out balls to the wall.
It’s been a pleasure, a bunch of you are quite bright, but when push comes to shove, unless you can shitcan gasbag jerks like Kunstler and Smith, you may as well cross yourselves and face the wall, ’cause dreams will help you not at all (kudos Thomas Pynchon). “Res non verbum” as I learned lo these many years ago.
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28th December 2012 at 8:22 pm
DaveL says:
“3) Your claimed freedom to own guns should not supersede my freedom to live without fear of guns. We exist in a society, and our society requires us to give up certain freedoms so that it can function.”
Your desire to live without fear should not supersede my freedom to tell you to go fuck yourself you whiny bleating sheep!
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28th December 2012 at 9:06 pm
Hope@ZeroKelvin says:
@Muck:
Fuckin’ A.
‘Cept there is a county in Texas that did this in 2008 and there has been ZERO violence in the school since that time.
There is also several gun shops that offer FREE concealed Carry training to teachers here in Texas.
Robert Henlein, SF Master, said “An armed society is a polite society”, like, 50 years ago or something.
There is a Bad Moon Rising, my friends. Prep as best ye can and brace for impact.
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28th December 2012 at 9:39 pm
Novista says:
There seems to be a common meme that civilians ain’t got what it takes if push comes to shove. Well, are vets civilians?
22,658,000 veterans in america today OK, a lot are past it, and numbers die every day. But there would be a not insigificant number who fought for their country in WW2 and might take exception to the government’s new War on Citizens.
I don’t have a breakdown on Korea or Vietnam, etc., but then there is this:
2,333,972 American military personnel had been deployed to Iraq, Afghanistan or both, as of Aug. 30,2011. 1,353, 627 have since left the military. Unemployment Rate = 12.1 percent.
Brandon Smith surely isn’t the Gray Champion but there look to be some candidates if TSHTF.
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28th December 2012 at 10:55 pm
crazyivan says:
But, once he moved out to Montana (within the past year) and started spending more time around like-minded militia/libertarian/separatists he lost it. All of his articles now are pie-in-the-sky nonsense that is not grounded in reality – and this one is the nail in the coffin of his credibility.- Yojimbo
Puff goes your credibility.
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28th December 2012 at 11:42 pm
Cahuitabeachbound says:
I now tell people to watch Schindler’s List to understand why it’s a CIVIC DUTY to own an assault rifle with at least 1000 rounds. How many of those Polish Jews in 1930 would have said 1942 Poland was a possibility.
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28th December 2012 at 12:48 am
Makati1 says:
I’m out of the battle zone but my family is not. They won’t relocate so I cannot help them. What will happen? I suspect that the dumbing down will work for a while longer, the fluoride in water, kids on downers, parents on tranquilizers, drugs, and alcohol. But, they will not be available when the SHTF and then those same drugged citizens may just lose it and be armed when they do it. They would have to bring in troops from other countries, because I don’t think our own will turn on their own. If they do, than we do not deserve to exist as a country. Nuff said.
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28th December 2012 at 4:15 am
fwiw imho says:
“I now tell people to watch Schindler’s List to understand why it’s a CIVIC DUTY to own an assault rifle with at least 1000 rounds”
And I’ve been telling people who are too lazy (or too stupid in most cases) to read some history to at least rent the DVD “The Sound of Music” to see what happens when the brown shirts/blue shirts come knocking.
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28th December 2012 at 7:33 am
flash says:
If ordered, I don’t believe soldiers will have any qualms with killing civilians.History has shown time and again the efficiency with which soldiers can exterminate their own and today’s soldiers are no less or more human than those that came before.
Bet on it.
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28th December 2012 at 8:26 am
Be Prepared says:
If we push all the crap away, there is a fundamental issue of whether gunowners will acquiesce to an unconstitutional law. I don’t care whether the Supreme Court rules for or against this new proposed legislation. What will you do when you are facing the reality of this type of legislation? It’s one thing to arm chair what you would do now, but when the thugs come knocking…. what will most do? The government can make your life a living hell…. much more so, than they are doing now. The IRS, banks, credit history, employment can all be tools to make you comply. They can make life full of crap not just for you, but for your wife and children. This scenario sucks… no two ways about it.
Without a collective voice now… fighting this progressive agenda to stop it once again from ruling our lives. You will be left facing the thugs individually when they search your place due to your posts on this blog that the fusion center has collected and tagged. Will you hid them? Will you register them? Will 90% join the sheep line?
I would like to believe that we will band together and not stand for such a law, but I see more and more of my fellow citizens without a basic understanding of their own constitution and the responsibilities it requires of an active citizenry. Feinstein has been itching to do this for years and she, along with the other crap eating slobs, see that they are in position to use “We must save the children” to strip law abiding citizens of their rights. Without some serious ground swell from all of us to stop this, we will be left to face the severity of it. I don’t see this one ending after 10 years. Once a full generation has gone by without the ability to own real firearms, will there be anyone left that understands what they lost so long ago?
So I ask again…. what will you REALLY do when the thugs come knocking to enforce your registration? Will you risk your family’s happiness? Will you risk the full wrath the government can bring into your life? If we don’t stop this law, we will all have to answer these questions.
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28th December 2012 at 9:25 am
Outtahere says:
I’m tired of all the hype and BS too, but unlike Stucky, I can NOT stick my head in the sand. When you do that you’re asking for someone, anyone, to stick it up your ass. Vigilance and resistance is what is required, plain and simple. Because if we don’t, then THEY are going to win and take away our country and way of life. You can take that to the bank!
As for fighting against the military whose members are sworn to “fight all enemies, foreign and domestic”, it will interesting to see WHO they perceive to be the enemy. The civilians or the govt. who is telling them to kill the people railing against an out of control govt?
If you go back and look at American History, it was actually a very small percentage of the American people who fought for independence and freedom against King George. It will be the same today I’m pretty sure. MOST, but not all, of the people will sit on the sidelines. The rest of us will be trying to preserve our Republic and return it to what it once was — something to be proud of and a system that people around the world looked up to.
You don’t see any news reports about people dying trying to sneak into Russia, China, Cuba or Venezuela do you? They did however die trying to get from East Berlin to West Berlin. I wonder why that is?
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28th December 2012 at 9:28 am
TeresaE says:
3 a.m. in your underwear is never the time to “fight” a SWAT team. You’ll lose, always. And be branded a criminal your family denied of their pride (and more than likely their life insurance payout too).
The time to “fight” this was decades ago. We, the worthless NRA included, never captured the talk. We should have demanded that gun crimes are reported that show the percentage of legal ownership crimes versus illegally possessed. We should have demanded gun safety in schools, more monies for education and safety.
Instead, we let the liberals and fear-mongers control the conversation and spent our time backtracking.
Too late now. Ever since I read about H. Clinton’s assertions that the UN Small Arms Treaty could be enforced WITHOUT ratification, I knew just how screwed we are.
I haven’t even liked to talk about it online. All those that have boasted about their purchases, armory, ammo, etc are bound to be some of the first contacted.
And, Makati, we don’t have to wonder about foreign troops being used in our borders. Bush II signed treaties with both Canada and Mexico (probably more, those are just the two I know for sure) that allow for the three of us to interchange armies so that the respective oppressive government doesn’t have to force their own boys to kill their own grandmas.
Don’t worry our pretty little heads, this is all being planned and accounted for, count on that.
Am I the only person that is starting to think that full-scale grid failure and thrown back into the dark ages is the only “save” from this shit?
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28th December 2012 at 11:09 am
Outtahere says:
JEEZE! Who gives a fuck about “family pride” or any benefits if you can’t defend your own home.
Who wants to live in a country like that anyway. I’d rather die at my front door fighting a SWAT team than live under the boot of tyranny. It may seem too late for some, but not for me!
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28th December 2012 at 11:25 am
Micro-Be says:
Novista –
I couldn’t see any WWII vet supporting a popular armed revolution, they tend to be pretty strict nationalists. They did in fact happily support the draft, Japanese internment, complete national mobilization by the Federal Government, and eagerly went to war with information solely provided by the FedGov. I’ve found that generation and the veterans to be warm people in general but they are most definitely patriotic nationalists. Many of them though grew up with the concept of the Presidency being FDR. One man I knew told me that when FDR passed he was confused in his youth because there had only ever been FDR since he could remember.
Now, in regards to the GWOT veterans…well, I personally know several anti government types. In fact, all my fellow vets I’ve kept in contact with at the very minimum distrust the government, one I know is outright against it and very vocally as well (he hasn’t disappeared yet because he alienates people when he argues so he isn’t a threat). On the flip side, when I was in I knew several military members that were ardent statists. I for sure know they wouldn’t hesitate to turn guns on domestic opposition to their god, the State, if an honest civil war or significant “domestic engagement” were to occur.
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28th December 2012 at 2:07 pm
Novista says:
M-B
Good points. I guess it all depends on how things play out.
Knowing how hamfisted the government can be, if they get their dragonian legislation and opt for a “shock and awe” approach, it may well alienate more than they know.
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28th December 2012 at 1:27 am
Micro-Be says:
One thing is for sure, what happens in the future will surprise us all, even the most wise. It’s somewhat a pleasure to pontificate, and definitely wise to plan as best as possible. Personally, well, the only thing is I’ve lost any faith in humanity as a whole that I once had, so I basically just expect some type of high tech dark ages to occur. Of course anything I predict is based upon my version of reality, as with anyone, and we just don’t know what people will do given extreme stimulus. History isn’t kind to the patriot, the USA is an exception. By chance, have you ever read “The 10,000 Year Explosion”?
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28th December 2012 at 1:38 am
Micro-Be says:
I’m sorry, what I said was wrong about history and the patriot. History isn’t kind to the lovers of freedom. That is what I mean.
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28th December 2012 at 1:39 am
Yojimbo says:
“To put this in the most basic terms: registration and restriction equals revolution. Count on it.”
OK, Crazy Ivan -
I have been wrong about everything else. I assumed hyperinflation would already have occurred, along with gold and silver skyrocketing, mass civil unrest, and a stock market collapse. I am prepared to be wrong when I predict that this law will not lead to a revolution. In fact, I hope to the gods that I am wrong, and that this is the beginning of the revolution. My credibility is a small price to pay if it is the start.
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28th December 2012 at 5:42 am
NetRanger says:
Well, it does seem that some of you on here get it and some of you truly do not. I can say that I have been taking the temp in various places around the country. The east and west coasts are, as expected, the ones that are pushing this anti-gun agenda. Thats not a surprise. Any large population center has swallowed the government dependency bait hook, line and sinker. The middle of the country, particularly the midwest are digging their heals in. The lies and the misrepresentation and the heads in the sand just make me want to throw up.
While Brandon’s prediction of another American Revolution may be too far ahead of the wave for some of you to see it, there are others more and less credible that are saying the same thing. Ignore this at your own risk.
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28th December 2012 at 8:00 am
Novista says:
M-B
http://www.amazon.com/000-Year-Explosion-Civilization-Accelerated/dp/0465020429
Looks interesting! Also other recommendations there. I’ve always suspected the Neanderthals got an unjustified reputation.
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28th December 2012 at 7:19 pm
Micro-Be says:
The book has some interesting things to say, especially the assertion that people are being farmed.
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28th December 2012 at 7:46 pm