The fucking FBI allowed $3-$6 trillion of mortgage fraud, never once fucking arrested any of these dickheads and now sucks bankster dick.
This shit is sooooo fucked!
Totally fucked.
The definition of fascism used by Mussolini is the “merger of state and corporate power“.
Government and the big banks are in a malignant, symbiotic relationship. And our economy now exhibits a merger of state and bank power.
Prominent economist Robert Kuttner said in 2009:
What we have is something perilously close to a dictatorship of the Fed and the Treasury, acting in the interests of Wall Street.
The government and banks use anti-terror laws to stifle dissent.
As Naomi Wolf reports, they joined efforts to violently crush the occupy protests:
The violent crackdown on Occupy [which was protesting the SAME THING as the Tea Party ... and the Boston Tea Party] last fall … was not just coordinated at the level of the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, and local police. The crackdown, which involved, as you may recall, violent arrests, group disruption, canister missiles to the skulls of protesters, people held in handcuffs so tight they were injured, people held in bondage till they were forced to wet or soil themselves –was coordinated with the big banks themselves.
[A newly-released document] shows a terrifying network of coordinated DHS, FBI, police, regional fusion center, and private-sector activity so completely merged into one another that the monstrous whole is, in fact, one entity: in some cases, bearing a single name, the Domestic Security Alliance Council. And it reveals this merged entity to have one centrally planned, locally executed mission. The documents, in short, show the cops and DHS working for and with banks to target, arrest, and politically disable peaceful American citizens. ….
Plans to crush Occupy events, planned for a month down the road, were made by the FBI – and offered to the representatives of the same organizations that the protests would target ….
The FBI – though it acknowledges Occupy movement as being, in fact, a peaceful organization – nonetheless designated OWS repeatedly as a “terrorist threat”….
[The executive Director of The Partnership for Civil Justice Fund - the group which obtained the document] points out the close partnering of banks, the New York Stock Exchange and at least one local Federal Reserve with the FBI and DHS, and calls it “police-statism”:
“This production [of documents], which we believe is just the tip of the iceberg, is a window into the nationwide scope of the FBI’s surveillance, monitoring, and reporting on peaceful protestors organizing with the Occupy movement … These documents also show these federal agencies functioning as a de facto intelligence arm of Wall Street and Corporate America.”
The documents show stunning range: in Denver, Colorado, that branch of the FBI and a “Bank Fraud Working Group” met in November 2011 – during the Occupy protests – to surveil the group. The Federal Reserve of Richmond, Virginia had its own private security surveilling Occupy Tampa and Tampa Veterans for Peace and passing privately-collected information on activists back to the Richmond FBI, which, in turn, categorized OWS activities under its “domestic terrorism” unit. The Anchorage, Alaska “terrorism task force” was watching Occupy Anchorage. The Jackson, Michigan “joint terrorism task force” was issuing a “counterterrorism preparedness alert” about the ill-organized grandmas and college sophomores in Occupy there. Also in Jackson, Michigan, the FBI and the “Bank Security Group” – multiple private banks – met to discuss the reaction to “National Bad Bank Sit-in Day” (the response was violent, as you may recall). The Virginia FBI sent that state’s Occupy members’ details to the Virginia terrorism fusion center. The Memphis FBI tracked OWS under its “joint terrorism task force” aegis, too. And so on, for over 100 pages.
Eric Zuesse notes:
The FBI was organizing against the OWS movement even before it was known to the general public, and they kept on their campaign against it, until it was dead.
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The FBI’s police-state snooping and tracking of Occupy Wall Street … had begun even before most Americans knew that there was any such movement for the FBI to snoop against.
In other words, the reason why Barack Obama’s “Justice” Department refuses to prosecute even a single one of the mega-bank executives who profited so enormously from having defrauded both mortgagees and the investors in mortgage-backed securities, and who were bailed out by future U.S. taxpayers whose government purchased those remaining “toxic assets” at 100 cents on the dollar, is clear: we live in a police state, and these elite crooks control it. This is not real democracy.
Voters were given a choice in November between a President like that but whose liberal rhetoric is condemnatory of “Wall Street,” versus a professional stripper of corporations, whose rhetoric was overtly supportive of Wall Street. And voters chose the former. But this nonetheless is a police state, not
KaD says:
Like to say I’m surprised but not so much. Until the banksters all get a bullet in the head nothing is going to change.
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31st December 2012 at 10:39 pm
IndenturedServant says:
Does anyone here think that we will live to see the banksters and their enablers get what they deserve?
I_S
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31st December 2012 at 10:54 pm
llpoh says:
IS – My experience is that it is false that bad people get what they deserve in the end. Often that is not true at all. Bad, rich people in particular escape justice. Just how it is, and see no light at the end of that tunnel.
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31st December 2012 at 11:41 pm
backwardsevolution says:
Bad people may escape justice, but they are empty inside. They’ve already living in a jail; they just don’t know it.
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31st December 2012 at 12:31 am
backwardsevolution says:
Saw this posted:
“From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage.”
Another person replied:
“Take heart, it’s like the Yin-Yang or the Hindu Creation cycle…things get darkest before the dawn, the height of something’s power is also the beginning of its decline. Some people may have even progressed back up to the top of your cycle already.”
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31st December 2012 at 12:41 am
Llpoh says:
BE – again, that is not my experience. The ones I have known have been very happy folk. They are concerned only for themselves, get what they want, and could not care less that you or anyone else considers them empty. They would laugh at the thought. We are little people, and are beneath their consideration.
It is very similar to the way Native Americans were viewed – by and large no one cared what happened to them, and if they needed to be exterminated for land or resources, so be it. The evil rich think the same way.
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31st December 2012 at 12:45 am
Davos says:
“It is very similar to the way Native Americans were viewed – by and large no one cared what happened to them, and if they needed to be exterminated for land or resources, so be it. The evil rich think the same way.”
+1
Sick bastards, blankets with small pox.
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31st December 2012 at 12:57 am
Llpoh says:
Davos – glad to see you posting and commenting. HNY!
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31st December 2012 at 1:06 am
Reverse Engineer says:
“My experience is that it is false that bad people get what they deserve in the end. Often that is not true at all. Bad, rich people in particular escape justice.”-llpoh
You gathered your experience in the wrong era. Bad, rich people don’t ALWAYS escape justice in every era.
We are at the End of an Era, the End of the Age of Oil. Things change.
Coming Soon to a Theatre Near You.
RE
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31st December 2012 at 1:13 am
SSS says:
“Sick bastards, blankets with small pox.”
—-Davos
Totally false accusation that there was a germ warfare program to exterminate Indians by passing small pox infected blankets to Indian tribes. No credible documentation whatsoever. None. Nada. Zero. Zip. Totally fucking false.
Your move, big guy.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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31st December 2012 at 1:56 am
Reverse Engineer says:
“Totally false accusation that there was a germ warfare program to exterminate Indians by passing small pox infected blankets to Indian tribes. No credible documentation whatsoever. None. Nada. Zero. Zip. Totally fucking false.”-SSS
No wonder the CIA can’t do research worth a damn.
I refer you to the Siege of Fort Pitt. From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Fort_Pitt
“Fort Pitt was built in 1758 during the French and Indian War, on the site of what was previously Fort Duquesne. The French abandoned and destroyed Fort Duquesne in November 1758 with the approach of General John Forbes’s expedition. The Forbes expedition was successful in part because of the Treaty of Easton, in which area American Indians agreed to end their alliance with the French. American Indians—primarily Delawares and Shawnees—made this agreement with the understanding that the British military would leave the area after the war. The Indians wanted a trading post, but they did not want a British fort, or a British garrison, near their villages. The British, however, built Fort Pitt larger and stronger than Fort Duquesne had been.
The Siege
In May 1763, Pontiac’s Rebellion began at Fort Detroit. After Indians around Pittsburgh heard the news, they attacked Fort Pitt on June 22, 1763. Too strong to be taken by force, the fort was kept under siege throughout July. Meanwhile, Delaware and Shawnee war parties raided deep into the Pennsylvania settlements, taking captives and killing unknown numbers of men, women, and children. Panicked settlers fled eastwards.
For General Jeffrey Amherst, who before the war had dismissed the possibility that the Indians would offer any effective resistance to British rule, the military situation over the summer became increasingly grim. He wrote his subordinates and instructed them not to take any Indian prisoners.
The siege didn’t let up until August 1, 1763, when most of the Indians broke off from Fort Pitt in order to intercept a body of 500 British troops marching to the fort under Colonel Henry Bouquet. On August 5, these two forces met at the Battle of Bushy Run. Bouquet fought off the attack and relieved Fort Pitt on August 20.
Blankets with smallpox
On June 29, 1763, a week after the siege began, Bouquet was preparing to lead an expedition to relieve Fort Pitt when he received a letter from Amherst making the following proposal: “Could it not be contrived to send the smallpox among the disaffected tribes of Indians? We must on this occasion use every stratagem in our power to reduce them.” [1]
Bouquet agreed, writing back to Amherst on July 13, 1763: “I will try to inoculate the bastards with some blankets that may fall into their hands, and take care not to get the disease myself.” Amherst responded favorably on July 16, 1763: “You will do well to inoculate the Indians by means of blankets, as well as every other method that can serve to extirpate this execrable race.”[2]
As it turned out, however, officers at the besieged Fort Pitt had already exposed the Indians in just the manner Amherst and Bouquet were discussing. During a parley at Fort Pitt on June 24, 1763, Captain Simeon Ecuyer gave representatives of the besieging Delawares two blankets and a handkerchief from the smallpox ward “out of regard to them” after the Delawares pledged to renew their friendship.[3] While the exact meaning of his phrase was unclear, a later invoice appears to clearly establish the purpose was transmittal of smallpox.[4]”
RE
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31st December 2012 at 2:11 am
Llpoh says:
SSS – there is sure and certain documentation it was proposed. Jeffrey Amherst certainly made the proposal more than once. Lack of proof does not mean it did not happen. It is highly possible it did indeed happen, but it does not look as tho it was a “program” as such. But given the atrocities perpetrated against Indians, there are many that would have done it in an instant.
Your argument is akin to saying there is no proof Germans ever killed Jews by dunking them in acid. Who cares – they would have if they had thought about it.
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31st December 2012 at 2:22 am
card802 says:
As far as any atrocities committed by our government against Native Americans or anyone.
History is written, or omitted, by the conquerors.
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31st December 2012 at 7:12 am
SSS says:
RE
I’ve already read that Ft. Pitt shit many times. Again, no substantiation. Just a speculative account. Think about this.
It’s the middle of the 18th Century. You’re in the wilderness, far from civilization, and someone comes up with the brilliant idea of passing smallpox, one of the most dreaded diseases of its time, over to the Indians. I can see it now. “Ok, men, here’s the plan. Any volunteers?” Yeah, right. That’ll work. And you can stuff your snotty comment about the CIA and research.
Llpoh
You and I and others have had this discussion several times before. Do you think I’m an idiot when it comes to knowing and acknowledging the many atrocities and outrages pulled against the Indians? Do I need to provide another fucking list, starting with the Trail of Tears? C’mon, you can at least give me more credit than that.
Facts are facts. But I’m not buying that smallpox bullshit.
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31st December 2012 at 12:09 pm
SSS says:
Ft. Pitt …. 1763.
Smallpox vaccination …. 1796.
Pls don’t give me a lecture on the history of smallpox vaccinations and experimentation. I’ve already read it. Remember, you’re in Ft. Pitt, out in the middle of nowhere, and it’s 1763. And someone suggests fucking around with smallpox AND actually passes this deadly and contagious disease to the Indians. I’m not biting.
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31st December 2012 at 12:22 pm
Stucky says:
Another fine day of arguing on TBP.
===========================
Mutt: “Hey, “X” is true.”
Jeff: “Bullshit! Never happened.”
Mutt: “Here, I found proof.”
Jeff: “Bullshit! That’s not proof.”
Mutt: “Why?”
Jeff: “Because I already read that, and I didn’t like it then either.”
Mutt: “Oh, you got any other proof?”
Jeff: “Yeah. My opinions and logic prove “X” doesn’t make sense.”
Mutt: Blow Me.
Jeff: Eat shit.
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31st December 2012 at 12:43 pm
KaD says:
LOL!
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31st December 2012 at 1:31 pm
Davos says:
HNY Llpoh.
SSS you might want to read ‘Lab 257′.
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31st December 2012 at 1:52 pm
SSS says:
Stucky
Bite me. A guy named Joey will be in touch with you soon. Actual photo of Joey.
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31st December 2012 at 2:42 pm
SSS says:
My New Year’s resoution is to tick off every possible visitor to this site, with the possible exception of Avalon. And I’ll probably tick her off without even meaning to. So far, the list includes Stucky, Llpoh, RE, Davos, and card802. I’ll probably be finished by this weekend. Happy Fucking New Year.
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31st December 2012 at 3:10 pm
Llpoh says:
So, SSS agrees that Indians were shot, bayonetted, slashed, burned, frozen, starved, raped, castrated, hung, driven from their lands, and decimated by white man disease.
But he wants to strongly make the point that, despite evidence that the idea was contemplated, there is no evidence that disease was actually spread intentionally among the Indians.
Alrighty then. Glad we sorted that out.
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31st December 2012 at 4:07 pm
Novista says:
HFNY, SSS … I like your agenda.
“Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” Carl Sagan, Donald Rumsfeld. et al
1763 British distribute blankets from smallpox patients to native Americans
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1326439/table/t1/
CDC, next stop
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31st December 2012 at 7:43 pm
avalon says:
Omg, SSS, the bright yellow color of that smiley pic is making my headache worse. But you still csnt tick me off.
Happpy New Year!!!
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31st December 2012 at 8:29 pm
SSS says:
Novista posts the comment, “1763 British distribute blankets from smallpox patients to native Americans,” while ignoring the footnote to his posted list of examples of biological warfare in the last millenium, “It is not clear whether any of these attacks caused the spread of disease. The smallpox epidemic among Indians could have been caused by contact with settlers.”
Brilliant, just fucking brilliant. I’m adding Novista to my list of ticked off TBPers. Didn’t even break a sweat on that one.
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31st December 2012 at 9:38 pm
SSS says:
“Omg, SSS, the bright yellow color of that smiley pic is making my headache worse. But you still can’t tick me off. Happpy New Year!!!”
—-Avalon
Sorry, Avalon, you lose. Making your headache worse qualifies as ticking you off (and the word happppy has 4 p’s, not 3). You’re on the list.
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31st December 2012 at 9:52 pm
avalon says:
SSS, you are making me laugh
Making me laugh has brought me joy. Bringing me joy has made my headache vanish. Thank you ever so muchhh…
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31st December 2012 at 10:02 pm
SSS says:
“SSS, you are making me laugh. Making me laugh has brought me joy. Bringing me joy has made my headache vanish. Thank you ever so muchhh…”
—-Avalon
Good grief. I don’t know how to deal with that. I give up.
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31st December 2012 at 11:47 pm
Reverse Engineer says:
SSS wrote: “No credible documentation whatsoever. None. Nada. Zero. Zip. Totally fucking false.”-SSS”
Awesome ex-CIA Researcher that he is, he must have missed the British Manuscript Project. Here are links to microfilms of the original letters.
http://www.nativeweb.org/pages/legal/amherst/34_40_305_fn.jpeg
http://www.nativeweb.org/pages/legal/amherst/34_41_114_fn.jpeg
You can find more links and more evidence here:
http://academic.udayton.edu/health/syllabi/bioterrorism/00intro02.htm
I pasted part of this research from the University of Dayton below, but the links are not hot.
Of course SSS “knew” about this, but it doesn’t constitute “evidence” to him. Yeah, OK.
SSS on CIA Drug Running:
“No credible documentation whatsoever. None. Nada. Zero. Zip. Totally fucking false.”
Yea, OK.
http://www.corbettreport.com/the-cia-and-the-drug-trade-eyeopener-preview/
SSS continues in his TBP role as apologist for the Fascist State and it’s Empire Building. It’s pathetic.
BTW SSS, you don’t piss me off at all, you make me very happy. You are a very EZ Target.
Like shooting ducks in a barrel baby. LOL.
RE
The British Manuscript Project
The documents provided here are among Amherst’s letters and other papers microfilmed as part of the British Manuscript Project, 1941-1945, undertaken by the United States Library of Congress during World War II. The project was designed to preserve British historical documents from possible war damage. There are almost three hundred reels of microfilm on Amherst alone.
The microfilm is difficult to read, and paper copies even harder. Nonetheless, the images obtained by scanning the copies are sufficiently clear for online viewing. The images are of key excerpts from the letters. An index is provided to show by document number the location of these images in the microfilm set. Ascii text of the excerpts is also provided.
The documents
These are the pivotal letters: Colonel Henry Bouquet to General Amherst, dated 13 July 1763, [262k] suggests in a postscript the distribution of blankets to “inocculate the Indians”;
Amherst to Bouquet, dated 16 July 1763, [128k] approves this plan in a postscript and suggests as well as “to try Every other method that can serve to Extirpate this Execrable Race.” (This postcript spans two pages.)
These letters also discuss the use of dogs to hunt the Indians, the so-called “Spaniard’s Method,” which Amherst approves in principle, but says he cannot implement because there are not enough dogs. In a letter dated 26 July 1763, Bouquet acknowledges Amherst’s approval [125k] and writes, “all your Directions will be observed.”
Historian Francis Parkman, in his book The Conspiracy of Pontiac and the Indian War after the Conquest of Canada [Boston: Little, Brown, 1886] refers to a postscript in an earlier letter from Amherst to Bouquet wondering whether smallpox could not be spread among the Indians:
Could it not be contrived to send the Small Pox among those disaffected tribes of Indians? We must on this occasion use every stratagem in our power to reduce them. [Vol. II, p. 39 (6th edition)]
I have not found this letter, but there is a letter from Bouquet to Amherst, dated 23 June 1763, [189k] three weeks before the discussion of blankets to the Indians, stating that Captain Ecuyer at Fort Pitt (to which Bouquet would be heading with reinforcements) has reported smallpox in the Fort. This indicates at least that the writers knew the plan could be carried out.
It is curious that the specific plans to spread smallpox were relegated to postscripts. I leave it to the reader to ponder the significance of this.
Several other letters from the summer of 1763 show the smallpox idea was not an anomaly. The letters are filled with comments that indicate a genocidal intent, with phrases such as: “…that Vermine … have forfeited all claim to the rights of humanity” (Bouquet to Amherst, 25 June) [149k]
“I would rather chuse the liberty to kill any Savage….” (Bouquet to Amherst, 25 June) [121k]
“…Measures to be taken as would Bring about the Total Extirpation of those Indian Nations” (Amherst to Sir William Johnson, Superintendent of the Northern Indian Department, 9 July) [229k]
“…their Total Extirpation is scarce sufficient Attonement….” (Amherst to George Croghan, Deputy Agent for Indian Affairs, 7 August) [145k]
“…put a most Effectual Stop to their very Being” (Amherst to Johnson, 27 August [292k]; emphasis in original).
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31st December 2012 at 11:47 pm
Reverse Engineer says:
BTW, I just wanted to let you guys know, the guy standing on the platform nodding his head is my Great-Great-Great-Great-Great Grandfather, Marquis du Ingénieur Contraire d’Effondrement, known to his friends as “IC”.
RE
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31st December 2012 at 12:13 am
AKAnon says:
RE-Your relations may have fancy names (French? Yeah, that explains a few things) and big bank accounts, but they wear very silly hats.
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31st December 2012 at 12:33 am
SSS says:
“SSS continues in his TBP role as apologist for the Fascist State and it’s Empire Building. It’s pathetic.
BTW SSS, you don’t piss me off at all, you make me very happy. You are a very EZ Target.”
—-RE
Oh, yes I DID piss you off, RE. Otherwise, you would have NEVER taken the time to have posted what you did ……. articles, links, personal comments, videos, etc.
I figure it took you at least 30-60 minutes of your life to post your comments, which I totally reject as more unsubstantiated bullshit. It took me 3 minutes to post this response. Checkmate.
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31st December 2012 at 12:34 am
Reverse Engineer says:
“I figure it took you at least 30-60 minutes of your life to post your comments”-SSS
Your mathematical savvy is about as good as your CIA research ability.
Obviously you never check out the volume of prose I drop down on the Diner every day, but you should recall how much I used to drop down on TBP. Oh, wait, I forgot the Alzheimers, excuse me. LOL.
I keyboard very fast SSS, and the research speed is mainly limited by the realtively slow connection I have over the net in the Cabin. I tether to a cell phone, it’s slow. However, while something loads, I go do something else.
The actual prose I wrote in that post was less than 200 words, and my average keyboard speed is around 90WPM. Sometimes faster when I am on a roll. MAX that post took was 4 minutes including the pastes.
Fastest Gun in the Collapse Blogosphere. Have Keyboard, Will Travel. I spend less time responding to you than I do sitting on the throne taking a dump, and sometimes I do them at the same time. Multitasking similar needs. LOL.
RE
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31st December 2012 at 1:26 am
crazyivan says:
If you watch closely you might notice that RE has a tendency to draw his six shooter in a careless manner.
Early in the draw he could have blown the tip of his dick off.
There is not much hope for him.
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31st December 2012 at 2:40 am
Reverse Engineer says:
I wear a Kevlar Jock Strap.
RE
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31st December 2012 at 2:52 am
ThePessimisticChemist says:
@SSS – “You’re in the wilderness, far from civilization, and someone comes up with the brilliant idea of passing smallpox, one of the most dreaded diseases of its time, over to the Indians.”
Germ warfare goes back to the 1200s I believe. The Mongols catapulted bodies killed by the black plague over the walls of their enemies to hopefully start an outbreak.
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31st December 2012 at 10:34 am