BRING IN THE CLOWNS

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Posted on 11th January 2013 by Administrator in Economy |Politics |Social Issues

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Gary Shilling has been far more accurate in his predictions than 99% of the so called economists paid for by the Wall Street banks and the corporate MSM. His views are correct. His facts are correct. His math is correct. The only thing in doubt is the timing. Will it happen in 2013? Who knows. Bernanke has kept the farce going far longer than I thought possible.

 

Washington ‘clowns’ set up 42% stock-market drop

Commentary: 3 more fiscal cliffs, with bigger risks, are coming

By Paul B. Farrell, MarketWatch

SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. (MarketWatch) — One fiscal cliff down. Three more to go: the $16.4 trillion federal-debt-limit cliff, the $1 trillion sequestration cuts from defense and discretionary spending, and the $2.5 trillion congressional budget cliff.

No wonder investors are being warned of a 42% market drop by Gary Shilling, longtime Forbes columnist, one of the world’s top economists and the author of “The Age of Deleveraging.”

But if you really want to know why American markets are going into another bear crash, check out Bloomberg Businessweek’s latest cover. It will win the Political Cartoon of the Century award for the best snapshot of the totally dysunctional state of Washington … the real reason markets will crash and our economic recovery will be a sluggish handicap race with low GDP growth.

Bloomberg’s cover is a classic: You see a shot inside the Capitol, with “Babies” in huge bold cap letters. Subtext: “The politics of the fiscal cliff deal are outrageous. The economic thinking even worse.” You look closely. No senators. No representatives. All you see are hundreds of babies, whining, throwing temper tantrums, bawling and generally raising hell — just because that’s what crybabies do. Get it? 435 representatives and 100 senators, all acting like immature children.

Red-nosed clowns and screaming babies

And if that political cartoonish image isn’t accurate enough with all those crybabies giving you an accurate image of American government at its dysfunctional worst, look inside at the graphic of the Capitol Dome with a pointed polka-dot clown hat and huge clown nose. 

Yes, the political cartoon imagery has shifted. Businessweek is not alone in seeing Congress as Bozo the Clown. Read the caption: “The fiscal-cliff debate made for more than just clownish maneuvering. It produced a dumb deal.”

Bloomberg columnist Peter Coy concludes his commentary with this: “As Sen. Joe Manchin III, a freshman Democrat from West Virginia, put it shortly before the new year: Something has gone terribly wrong when the biggest threat to our American economy is the American Congress.”

So yes, folks, it really is easy to see why economist Shilling is warning of a 42% market collapse. With hundreds of crybabies running Washington, our economy will just sink deeper in 2013.

Shilling concludes with this dark summary of the coming crash: “With a global recession depressing corporate revenues, unsustainable profit margins and currency translation losses spawned by a robust dollar, I see S&P 500 operating earnings of $80 per share next year. That’s a quarter below Wall Street consensus. Throw in a bear market P/E low of 10 and the S&P 500 Index drops to 800, a 42% decline.”

Yes, Shilling does not see any reason for optimism now. But he does have a great track record as a forecaster. So believe him when he says: “Beyond the fiscal cliff, the economic outlook for 2013 is negative. Most forecasters are paid to be bullish. I try to be realistic,” says Shilling.

Shilling is actually confirming earlier comments in “U.S. GDP on road to zero growth by 2050,” where Jeremy Grantham, whose GMO firm manages $100 billion, says: “The U.S. GDP growth rate that we have become accustomed to for over a hundred years … is gone forever.” And it will decline further: “Going forward, GDP growth … for the U.S. is likely to be about only 1.4% a year, and adjusted growth about 0.9%.” Optimists hate the drop

Three more cliffhangers

The American economy should be in a strong recovery. But that won’t happen. It’s held hostage by an out-of-control bunch of crybabies and clowns, dogmatic no-compromise ideologues who see government as an enemy and welcome an opportunity to shut it down. That’s even though most experts warn that failure to resolve the three upcoming cliffs guarantees serious adverse consequences — lower GDP growth, a recession, another credit rating crash and a loss of international credibility.

Shilling’s sees “big trouble dead ahead.” Yes, “big,” and, yes, “dead ahead.” He sees nine major reasons that explain why the future of both the U.S. and global economies and markets are “so grim.”

Here are the crucial nine macro trends, all made worse by America’s dysfunctional government, which won’t correct itself for several years:

1. Lower consumer spending

“U.S. consumers are making a U–turn from borrowing and spending to saving. … That’s bad news for U.S. retailers, and worse news for foreign countries that rely on exports.”

2. Financial deleveraging

Wall Street pushed America into a downhill spiral in 2008, and it’s “still rippling through the global system — consumers and businesses are focused on capital preservation above all.” Shilling sees a grim future: “Say goodbye to expansion and growth; forget about a bull market in stocks.”

3. Limiting new regulations

Across the world “governments of developed economies are piling on new regulations with abandon. That’s great if you want to encourage corruption, but lousy if you want more innovation and efficiency.”

4. Commodity prices dropping

Worse, prices will “keep falling as global growth slows,” warns Shilling. “Expect major turmoil and possibly revolution in countries that rely on exporting commodities like grains, metals or oil.”

5. Government spending cutbacks

“Governments in developed countries are forced into austerity and fiscal restraint. That’s bad news for national GDP in Europe, America, Asia, and a disaster for citizens that rely on a safety net in those countries.” Translation: The GOP’s demand for spending cuts, in Social Security and other social programs, may happen naturally thanks to these nine slow-growth macroeconomic trends, without any government shutdown.

6. Protectionism hurts trade and growth

Shilling asks: Does protectionism “help global trade and growth? It doesn’t.”

7. Excess inventories limit investing

The housing market especially “still suffers under excess inventories and has absolutely no appeal for investors. That’s not just bad for employment,” warns Shilling. “It’s downright depressing for homeowners who feel a negative wealth effect.”

8. Deflation dampens growth

Deflation makes buyers everywhere cautious as they wait for lower prices. You want to think twice before you own or invest in any industry that relies on consumer spending.

9. State, local, national, world government problems

And yes, they are in deep trouble. Less money from Washington. Plus revenues dropping, running short of cash, and facing bankruptcies: “Is your community prepared to cope with half as many cops, firefighters and teachers?” No.

Yes, big, big trouble lies dead ahead, at all levels of government — city, state, national and throughout the world, creating a hotbed for more wars and revolutions.

Shilling’s Insight Newsletter is one of the finest economic forecasting letters available. The latest warns against the blind “fixation of investors on monetary easing to the exclusion of weak real economic activity. This ‘grand disconnect’ between robust security markets and subdued at best economic reality, combined with central-bank-set low interest rates, has spawned many distortions and a zeal for yield that almost completely ignores financial risks.”

But this “grand disconnect is unsustainable. Unless the global economy leaps to meet investor expectations, disappointments will follow and … a substantial shock will precipitate this shift and a global recession.”

Get it folks? “Big trouble is dead ahead,” a recession, a 42% crash, with crybabies and clowns screwing up our government.

 
51 Comments
  1. Dorkus Maximus says:

    Don’t forget the big baby in the oval office.

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    11th January 2013 at 9:44 am

  2. Eddie says:

    Babies? I view them as parasitic lootersof the wealth of the country. They’re only crying because the gravy train is running out.

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    11th January 2013 at 9:58 am

  3. Stucky says:

    JUDY COLLINS – Send In The Clowns (Live w/ lyrics)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5os4NFeKFFs

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    11th January 2013 at 11:09 am

  4. flash says:

    6. Protectionism hurts trade and growth

    Shilling asks: Does protectionism “help global trade and growth? It doesn’t.”

    Da fuck it doesn’t…supporting international slave a labor at the expense of your own nation’s economic success is national suicide at best .
    Free trade is the biggest bullshit lie ever fostered on Americana BoobUS and has led to nothing but misery for US all.

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    11th January 2013 at 11:18 am

  5. flash says:

    Ian Fletcher on Why Free Trade Doesn’t Work
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWZkHozvDfM

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    11th January 2013 at 11:20 am

  6. KaD says:

    Flash: I was thinking the same thing. I have a bone to pick with number 6. First of all, I don’t care about ‘global’ trade and growth. Global trade is a farce that has ruined America not helped it. And growth is going to be impossible into the future indefinitely. America needs to shift gears and work towards SUSTAINABILITY and localized food supplies.

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    11th January 2013 at 11:51 am

  7. Eddie says:

    I don’t think even investing giants like Shilling and Grantham (both of whom I admire) get that the old paradigm of year-over-year-growth is simply OVER. Forever. By the time the boomer rat is through the economic snake, we will have plenty of other issues that will KEEP growth at 1% (or less) pretty much indefinitely.

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    11th January 2013 at 12:13 pm

  8. Muck About says:

    8. Deflation dampens growth

    WTF? All I see is higher prices driven by currency devaluation ( “hidden” inflation)..

    BUt then there are always contrarians who hit it a lick.. Lots of luck..

    MA

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    11th January 2013 at 1:42 pm

  9. flash says:

    MA, hadn’t seen you around in awhile.I figured you’d already closed the hatch on the bunker and riding the storm out….awaiting the all safe signal from Rommel or something ..

    ..

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    11th January 2013 at 1:52 pm

  10. Administrator says:

    Friday Funnies

    I’m not sure if this article will make you laugh or cry, but I’m sticking it into the Friday Funnies. The Washington Times chronicles the shock felt by many Democrats – and shared on several social-media sites – after seeing their higher payroll taxes after the fiscal-cliff deal was reached. I’ve copied a few of the choice reactions:

    “What happened that my Social Security withholding’s [sic] in my paycheck just went up?” a poster wrote on the liberal site DemocraticUnderground.com. “My paycheck just went down by an amount that I don’t feel comfortable with. I guarantee this decrease is gonna’ [sic] hurt me more than the increase in income taxes will hurt those making over 400 grand. What happened?”

    “My boyfriend has had a lot of expenses and is feeling squeezed right now, and having his paycheck shrink really didn’t help,” wrote “DemocratToTheEnd.”

    “_Alex” sounded bummed: “Obama I did not vote for you so you can take away a lot of money from my checks.” “Christian Dixon” seemed crestfallen: “I’m starting to regret voting for Obama.” But “Dave” got his dander up over the tax hike: “Obama is the biggest f***ing liar in the world. Why the f*** did I vote for him?”

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    11th January 2013 at 3:31 pm

  11. AWD says:

    “I’m starting to regret voting for Obama.”

    “Obama is the biggest f***ing liar in the world. Why the f*** did I vote for him?”

    Dumbfucks voted for him. Tough shit. Too fucking late now you morons.

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    11th January 2013 at 4:00 pm

  12. IndenturedServant says:

    @admin, I saw that in the MSM the other day. I read loads of comments by liberals who seemed genuinely hurt and confused. I laughed my ass off at most of them. Like llpoh said, these people got exactly what they voted for.
    I_S

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    11th January 2013 at 6:21 pm

  13. Llpoh says:

    IS – amazing, isn’t it.

    Obama spends his first term spending like a drunken sailor, and implements his Obamacare thing,(carefully timed to kick in after term one) which will drive healthcare costs through the roof and the costs of which will fall to Joe Average in the end (anyone that thinks business will absorb them is a moron, and business is already busy shedding jobs, employee hours, etc to mitigate the cost).

    And he then runs a campaign focused on getting tax increases (he fooled many buy saying “on the rich” but his definition of rich never was the rich), and people are surprised when the pie hits them in the face.

    They got EXACTLY what they voted for, and are going to get a lot more of it. The stupidity of the American people knows no bounds. If not for my kids, I would think this was the greatest entertainment ever. It is funnier than Blazing Saddles, and all I need is a bowl of popcorn to complete the experience.

    This little red robin has had enough, and is preparing for winter.

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    11th January 2013 at 7:11 pm

  14. Llpoh says:

    Flash, I have not felt the need to call you a moron lately, but your isolationist economic bullshit is too stupid for words. You forget what happened in the seventies I guess, where quality was crap, costs were up, etc. The US relies on selling ALOT of goods. Cut that out of the economy, and add back low quality, high priced American crap (that is what you would get without foreign competition), and you would see the US in shit city. And did I mention the stuff that the US absolutely needs to import? Yep, a trade war sure is what the doctor ordered.

    My business is daily at risk of imported goods. I have more to lose via imported goods than anyone who posts on this site, but there is no way in hell I argue for a trade war, as the result would be catastrophic. .

    Post all the numbnut crap you want. It is economic lunacy.

    I can hardly wait for the ten thousand word cut and paste rebuttal.

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    11th January 2013 at 7:21 pm

  15. flash says:

    loopy,The quality of American goods had nothing to do with off-shoring American jobs beginning in the seventies.
    It was the flat lined growth of investment capital that drove Nixon to open up China and by proxy Southeast Asian slave labor to American capital looking to bump their profit margin from 3 to 30% even including start-up cost.

    The fact that you can’t compete with slave labor is cost of labor , not lack of quality.

    That tired old smoke of Americans are over-paid slackards doesn’t float with me piss-ant, so blow it you puffery up someone else’s ass .

    Sure, American’s can’t compete with people chained to their desks making ten dollars a month and neither should we have too.

    Globalization has ass-raped American industry and you of all people should know better…now crawl back in your hole critter and lick the bruise my boot left on your inflated bung hole,

    THE NEW WORLD DISORDER
    The utopian evil of free trade
    Exclusive: Vox Day proves how ideology in its true form would mean end of America
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    In my previous column on the flaws of free trade theory, I concentrated primarily on the theoretical aspects and the errors in the historical arguments that have been made for it. In this column, I will focus on the practical side and show how free trade, if implemented in a genuine manner, will necessarily result in the complete destruction of the United States of America as we know it.

    It is difficult to have a substantive discussion of the practical results of free trade with one of its advocates because they can so readily, with some justification, fall back on the argument that free trade agreements like NAFTA and the Agreement on the European Economic Area are not equivalent to truly free trade. While that is partially true, the argument nevertheless amounts to a massive evasion, as NAFTA without question brought much freer trade to the North American continent than it had previously known.

    When it was implemented in 1994, NAFTA immediately eliminated the tariffs on more than one-half of Mexican exports and more than one-third of U.S. exports. By 2009, all tariffs between the U.S. and Mexico were eliminated. How, one wonders, can the complete elimination of all tariffs between two countries be considered anything but free trade? And yet, as anyone who was paying attention to the news in 2009 will recall, that free trade did not bring great economic prosperity to Americans.

    It would be erroneous to claim free trade with Mexico was the source of the current economic crisis that began in 2008, but it is well worth pointing out that the free trade proved to be no panacea, and that the millions of Mexican immigrants who were part of the freer movement of goods, capital and labor inspired by NAFTA contributed greatly to the housing bubble that was the chief driver of the six-year financial boom that ran from 2002 to 2008.

    And indeed, while most of the historical concerns about free trade have revolved around the societal costs of the free movement of goods, it is the free movement of labor that most thoroughly damns free-trade ideology and reveals it to be a utopian evil every bit as dangerous as communism, feminism and globalism.

    Free-trade advocates often point to the free movement of goods, capital and labor in the domestic economy and ask why the same system cannot work internationally since it works so well within the national borders. The reason is simple: The nation cannot continue to exist if the same degree of labor movement takes place across the borders as it presently does within them. In a paper entitled “Comparing labour mobility in Europe and the U.S.: facts and pitfalls,” it was shown that in the years between 2000 and 2005, the annual interstate mobility rate in the U.S. ranged between 2.8 and 3.4 percent.

    To put this into terms most people will understand, just under half of all Americans between the ages of 25 and 44, 50.5 percent, still reside in the state in which they were born. This isn’t a big deal to most Americans. After all, the move from Michigan to Florida or from Minnesota to California is generally regarded as a step up in quality of life. But that’s not likely to be true on an international level.

    Because the labor cost difference between the U.S. and China is much greater than between Massachusetts and Texas, the pressure on Americans to move abroad in search of jobs would be even greater than presently exists in the domestic market. Enacting the same sort of free-trade regime on an international level as presently exists on the domestic level would require both a) a reduction in the American standard of living to one that is much closer global average, and b) the expatriation of more than 50 percent of young Americans under the age of 35.

    This statistically predictable destruction of the population and dissolution of the American people in the name of increased global prosperity through free trade is not a rhetorical exaggeration. Nor is it a concept that is unknown to the champions of free trade. Consider the words of Mr. Peter Sutherland, the former director-general of the World Trade Organization:

    Mr Sutherland, who is non-executive chairman of Goldman Sachs International and a former chairman of oil giant BP, heads the Global Forum on Migration and Development, which brings together representatives of 160 nations to share policy ideas. He told the House of Lords committee migration was a “crucial dynamic for economic growth” in some EU nations “however difficult it may be to explain this to the citizens of those states.”

    What this means is that if, despite understanding its true costs, you still favor free trade as a desirable means to increase the wealth of nations, then you should at least admit to yourself and others that you favor the total destruction of national sovereignty, the elimination of the U.S. Constitution and the end of America and other historical nations. You favor the ideology of ein Welt, ein Recht, eine Wirtschaft.

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    11th January 2013 at 8:19 pm

  16. Llpoh says:

    Flash cuts and pastes. Loopy does not read. Loopy instead comments one part that flash wrote himself.

    My point is that without global competition, quality of goods available inthe US will suck, and I gave examples of it. Second, prices will skyrocket, and as a byproduct, unions will return in force. Third, the US will have around a trillion dollars ofexports a year be jeopardized. Fourth, the US imports a lot of stuff that it will struggle to do without, and which will become extremely expensive if tradewars commence.

    Competition keeps prices down and quality up. The problems with the economy relate to over-regulation, failure to educate and skill up the workforce, spending sixteen trillion dollars on welfare instead of on infrastructure, etc., and have almost nothing to do with free trade. Get a fucking clue.

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    11th January 2013 at 8:43 pm

  17. flash says:

    Quality of goods great
    People starve looking for job
    no one buy wal-mart
    loopy no understand

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    11th January 2013 at 8:47 pm

  18. flash says:

    loopy think corporation an island …

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTW0y6kazWM

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    11th January 2013 at 8:50 pm

  19. flash says:

    loopy think life is workforce
    people number in corporate ledger
    corporate and government built to serve one the other
    the people get to pay
    but no work come their way.

    Bernanke.jpg

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    11th January 2013 at 8:57 pm

  20. Llpoh says:

    Seriously, flash, I do not understand how you can be so ignorant. Can you imagine the value adding capability of free shit shit army? It is non-existent. You basically want to force companies to hire those idiots.

    If the US did the correct things over time, there would be no unemployment issues, nor fear of competition. Trade barriers are an acknowledgement that your system is fucked and you cannot compete. It would lead to banana republic status. Same as the current policies do.

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    11th January 2013 at 8:58 pm

  21. flash says:

    loopy think competition
    wild-animal-photographs.jpg

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    11th January 2013 at 9:02 pm

  22. Llpoh says:

    Flash, you ignorant cretin – I advocate business being able to move forward unhindered by regulation, I advocate government spending on infrastructure and not welfare, and I advocate development of a skilled workforce. Your corporatism label is bullshit.

    You are an economic imbecile. And a socialist by the look of it. And we all know how well that works.

    Just look at how well countries fair when trade embargoes are slapped on them – like Cuba – and you want the US to do that to themselves voluntarily. What a joke.

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    11th January 2013 at 9:03 pm

  23. Llpoh says:

    The oic is absolutely right – I do think that. But I am always the fucking lion, as should be the US. But to be the lion, you have to believe in survival of the fittest, and you must demand the weak get stronger. You do not turn sheep into lions by building a fence around them.

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    11th January 2013 at 9:05 pm

  24. flash says:

    loopy -Flash, you ignorant cretin – I advocate business being able to move forward unhindered by regulation,
    Then why do you advocate something that has never been and never will be.Competition never has been free or fair.
    We open our country up for the salve labor nut shot and get one in the sack good and hard and booger eating bedwetters like yourself say, yeah well we deserved it cuz’ we’re lazy, stupid and got a lot of people on welfare, who BTW, incidentally can’t find a job.

    Blood is thicker than water…we swim or sink together…and being forced to compete against slave labor /state subsidized industry is a lunk of lead taking America to the bottom of an economic hell .
    Sure we have regulations hindering our industry, of which all could be repealed sans the noise of free trader myth , but to claim that Americans can’t compete because the quality of our production is low is akin to saying the milk cow pastured in the parking lot aint; giving no milk ,so therefore the only option left is to kill the cow.

    Kill it then corporatist , but best be prepared to do without the milk…or are you an island as well?

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    11th January 2013 at 9:18 pm

  25. flash says:

    I think of myself as not a lion , but as more of a sheepdog.and as a sheepdog I am obliged to protect the sheeples, because basically I like them more than fucking predators…it’s preference thing , you see..

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    11th January 2013 at 9:22 pm

  26. flash says:

    And it’s the fucking predator that’s responsible for all the economic rape that the bleating sheep are now being bled dry over..

    Thanks lion…you made one friggin hell of a mess..but ,a t least you still have your pride.

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    11th January 2013 at 9:26 pm

  27. flash says:

    loopy is an island
    and island has no need
    loopy need no American
    American are stupid
    stupid bad
    loopy make fiat money
    loopy good
    Model-of-a-Neanderthal-ma-007.jpg

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    11th January 2013 at 9:30 pm

  28. Llpoh says:

    The sheep made themselves sheep. They once were lions.

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    11th January 2013 at 10:04 pm

  29. Llpoh says:

    One other small issue – who will lend the US money in a trade war? Not China.

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    11th January 2013 at 10:07 pm

  30. flash says:

    loopy, I’ll give you that one….ONCE WE WERE LIONS! has a certain ring to it, but nevertheless our sheep need US and the weight of that burden is a heavy one.

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    11th January 2013 at 10:15 pm

  31. sangell says:

    And yet… 5 years on from August 2007, the system still levitates. Of course that maybe because we, convinced the system must fail, forget T.S. Elliots admonishment. The world may not end with a bang but a whimper and why should it be otherwise? After all, everyone gets up and goes to work everyday hoping for the best. Farmers still farm, factories still humm, people still shop. Inertia keeps things spinning and orbits only gradually decay.

    There is also the plain fact that sits invisibly in front of us. We are dependent for data on the very forces that have the most to lose by revealing the true state of affairs. The Juncker’s who truthfully asset that ‘if its serious we must lie’.

    I’m pissed that I missed the last 18 months of market gains. Its cost me a lot but I’m still convinced we have no reason to believe it can go on. For a better explanation than I can give here is Jeffrey Snider, a guy who I wish was the Fed Chairman.

    http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2013/01/11/what_happened_to_all_of_that_money__100083.html

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    11th January 2013 at 10:15 pm

  32. flash says:

    loaned money created from nothing …nothing returns to nothing.
    I sure when the notched stick currency went out of vogue there where those holding vast stores of notched sticks who got the shitty end.
    Life is the capital of humanity.
    We will survive the collapse of money , but money will never survive the collapse of US

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    11th January 2013 at 10:22 pm

  33. Llpoh says:

    Flash, yes, the sheep need us. But the real issue is I DO NOT NEED THE FUCKING SHEEP. And I am tired of feeding their lazy, ignorant, good for nothing asses.

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    11th January 2013 at 10:22 pm

  34. Llpoh says:

    And with that last comment, I declare victory.

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    11th January 2013 at 10:28 pm

  35. flash says:

    Llpoh says:

    Flash, yes, the sheep need us. But the real issue is I DO NOT NEED THE FUCKING SHEEP. And I am tired of feeding their lazy, ignorant, good for nothing asses.

    Then move on…..

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    11th January 2013 at 10:29 pm

  36. flash says:

    Llpoh says:

    And with that last comment, I declare victory.

    Not so fast…come back tomorrow and Stuck the offiical TBP death match referee will tally votea and declare the winner…until that time…good night…and happy trails.

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    11th January 2013 at 10:32 pm

  37. Llpoh says:

    Flash – as I have said, I am implementing my plans to isolate me from the system, as much as possible. I will be minimizing my tax liabilities, for sure, and will not serve as a major tax cow for much longer. I will look after myself, and those powers that have waged class warfare against me can seek elsewhere for the millions in tax revenue my company and I generate yearly. I guess they can just borrow more.

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    11th January 2013 at 10:42 pm

  38. SSS says:

    Stucky mentioned Judy Collins and her song (better than Sinatra’s version) “Send in the Clowns” early in the thread. Just to fuck this thread up, here’s Judy Blue Eye’s best ever ……

    xf40oh_judy-collins-someda…

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    11th January 2013 at 10:45 pm

  39. SSS says:

    Fuck. That didn’t work. Let’s try this.

    JUDY COLLINS someday soon – Video Dailymotion

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    11th January 2013 at 10:48 pm

  40. SSS says:

    Jesus Christ, I’m gonna take some serious shit for this. 3rd time’s the charm.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDFCHJwHyBE

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    11th January 2013 at 10:52 pm

  41. Llpoh says:

    Glad SSS shows up and adds value. For fuck sake, that is just plain embarrassing.

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    11th January 2013 at 11:01 pm

  42. IndenturedServant says:

    Llpoh says:

    “Flash, yes, the sheep need us. But the real issue is I DO NOT NEED THE FUCKING SHEEP. And I am tired of feeding their lazy, ignorant, good for nothing asses.”

    Game. Set. Match.
    I_S

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    11th January 2013 at 11:38 pm

  43. IndenturedServant says:

    SSS says:

    “Jesus Christ, I’m gonna take some serious shit for this. 3rd time’s the charm.”

    Thanks for the laugh!
    I_S

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    11th January 2013 at 11:50 pm

  44. IndenturedServant says:

    Llpoh says:

    “IS – amazing, isn’t it. ”

    Beyond amazing actually. People have the attention spans of gnats and only think in terms of the next five minutes. They think of Free Shit as manna from heaven. Like it just falls right out of the sky or something. Once we hit 51 people taking and 49 contributing it will be game over.
    I_S

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    11th January 2013 at 12:21 am

  45. Llpoh says:

    IS – I think we are already there. In any event, there are enough liberal do-gooders to push them over the top. So all that is left is for us to get the message out to those we can, and await the fallout.

    An earlier post said the govt is piling up 8 trillion un unfunded liabilities per year. I do not know if it is true or not, but given that the entire economy is 14 trillion per year, even if it is way off, that is a doomsday scenario, for the economy. There is tremendous pain and upheaval on its way.

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    11th January 2013 at 12:28 am

  46. juanstalkerchen says:

    flash says:

    loopy,The quality of American goods had nothing to do with off-shoring American jobs beginning in the seventies.
    It was the flat lined growth of investment capital that drove Nixon to open up China
    geat post flash.

    in order to digest it i need a picture, if i break down all barriers by agreement with my neighbor, he can come into my house and i can go into his house at will. eventually all my prize possessions will be in his hands while i have free access to his wife and daughters. son may complain but i am happy, sort of, cause i have two houses now. family screwed but oh, well, globalization, honey, get with the times!

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    11th January 2013 at 3:50 pm

  47. Kill Bill says:

    jsc, that makes no sense.

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    11th January 2013 at 4:21 pm

  48. Kill Bill says:

    The saddest thing you can be of all

    Is a soul selling fly on the wall

    ~~~~

    Im sure jsc can figure out this riddle.

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    11th January 2013 at 4:26 pm

  49. anotherjuanstalkerchen says:

    ok, so my allegory of the neighbors sucked, sorry. as for your riddle, the first line is disapproval of the observer in the second line, one who has sold out his/her principles, having made a deal with beelzebub, the lord of the flies. wow, quite and accusation. i keep going to macroview, those europeans sure shot themselves in the foot when they decided to go to one coin. we have gotten the same idea bruited around here that leveling pay for the north americas will reduce illegal immigration. at the same time, the usa has negotiated to send its businesses all over so we can find KFC almost anywhere in the world. we also find the greeenback almost everywhere in the world. americano politicians have forgotten or neglect to recall, they were elected to represent americanos. for some reason they have got it in their head that they represent the world.

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    11th January 2013 at 6:54 pm

  50. anotherjuanstalkerchen says:

    i thought the title “leader of the free world” was just a bunch of puffery. now it turns out our american economist comrades are tweaking the world economy. what next, our police go international?

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    11th January 2013 at 7:08 pm

  51. Administrator says:

    Bloomberg already has NYPD in Europe.

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    11th January 2013 at 7:22 pm

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