France says Diabaly falls to Malian insurgents
BAMAKO, Mali (AP) — Despite intensive aerial bombardments by French warplanes, Islamist insurgents grabbed more territory in Mali on Monday and got much closer to the capital, French and Malian authorities said.
In the latest setback, the al-Qaida-linked extremists overran the garrison village of Diabaly in central Mali, France’s defense minister said in Paris. Jean-Yves Le Drian said Monday the rebels “took Diabaly after fierce fighting and resistance from the Malian army that couldn’t hold them back.”
The Malian military is in disarray and has let many towns fall with barely a shot fired since the insurgency began almost a year ago in the northwest African nation.
French military forces, who began battling in Mali on Friday, widened their aerial bombing campaign against Islamic extremists occupying northern Mali, launching airstrikes for the first time in central Mali to combat the new threat. The rebels, who come from several nations besides Mali, had been bottled up in the narrow neck of central Mali. But by now sweeping in from the west, they are now only 400 kilometers (250 miles) from Mali’s capital, Bamako, in southern Mali.
Hope@ZeroKelvin says:
A lack of testosterone is a terrible thing.
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14th January 2013 at 10:39 am
Eddie says:
The French haven’t had a great pilot since Antoine de St. Exupery crashed into the Mediterranean in 1944.
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14th January 2013 at 10:49 am
SSS says:
Maybe France will give the Maginot Line concept another shot. It worked so well the first time. Heh.
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14th January 2013 at 10:50 am
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14th January 2013 at 10:51 am
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I wonder how many French readers I can lose with this thread.
If you are French give me a thumbs down.
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14th January 2013 at 10:53 am
Robmu1 says:
France never had a chance against a bunch of dudes with little equipment or military training. I heard that the insurgents shot down a Tornado with a BB gun.
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14th January 2013 at 10:53 am
SSS says:
France can always send this famous French citizen to Mali to make nice with the rebels.
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14th January 2013 at 10:59 am
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We’re about one comment away from TBP being banned in France.
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14th January 2013 at 11:00 am
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French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius has said that France’s involvement in the campaign against Islamist rebels in Mali will last “a matter of weeks”.
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Why will it last just weeks?
A) — It sounds good when American politicians say it
B) — It takes about two weeks for a Mali terrorist to walk to Paris, blow up one Peugeot, and have France surrender.
C) — It will take a few weeks to implement a ‘guns for escargot’ program
D) –All of the above
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14th January 2013 at 11:08 am
KaD says:
The French Army knife is wrong-it’s supposed to come with a cheese pick too.
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14th January 2013 at 11:12 am
Stucky says:
During the last Soccer World Cup the French President read the headline, “Germany advances”. He immediately surrendered that morning.
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14th January 2013 at 11:18 am
BUCKHED says:
Why are the streets in France lined with trees ?
Because the folks who have conquered France like to march in the shade
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14th January 2013 at 11:38 am
AWD says:
A modern military beaten by a bunch of savages? Must be France.
Socialism or not, they are still the biggest pussies in the world.
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14th January 2013 at 12:07 pm
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14th January 2013 at 12:08 pm
Kill Bill says:
Despite intensive aerial bombardments by French warplanes, Islamist insurgents grabbed more territory in Mali on Monday and got much closer to the capital, French and Malian authorities said.
See what happens when you drop croissants?
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14th January 2013 at 12:12 pm
Kill Bill says:
Oui Oui Pierre, ve shold hav droppd ze hot creme broulet, no?
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14th January 2013 at 12:13 pm
Richard says:
Go here for pics of the dead French commando left behind in Somalia. Winning.
https://mobile.twitter.com/HSMPress
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14th January 2013 at 1:13 pm
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A visitor comes to TBP and spots a bunch of comments on the France-Mali article and says, “I wonder what’s going on over there.” So s/he drops in and notes, “Oh, I see, it’s time to take a shit on France,” and quickly joins in on what amounts to a rugby scrum.
I love threads like this, but then again, I’m easily entertained.
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14th January 2013 at 1:16 pm
DaveL says:
Durng the Revolutiuonary War the British officers wore red coats because if they were shot the enlisted men wouldn’t see the blood stains and panic. Later on the French adpted this British idea and had all of their officers wear brown pants.
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14th January 2013 at 1:25 pm
flash says:
..speaking of surrender monkeys …goodbye gun violence…hello brave new world.
I HAVE EXECUTIVE POWERS OVER GUNS…
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-some-gun-control-measures-i-can-accomplish-through-executive-action_695381.html
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14th January 2013 at 2:07 pm
flash says:
I wonder how the US taxpayers will be suckered into funding another of France’s colonial wars?
The US taxpayers funded their lame attempt at colonizing Vietnam via the Marshall Plan and when that failed we paid in blood.
Behind every small group of evil assholes, there stands a even larger group of evil assholes waiting to take up the slack.
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14th January 2013 at 2:16 pm
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600 million …ppfffttt…..worth every penny….taxpayers would just piss it away anyway.
http://ericmargolis.com/2012/10/beware-those-wicked-malians/
A French-backed UN Security Council vote for military intervention in Mali to oust the rebels is imminent. France wants the West African economic group ECOWAS to lead the charge. But this is merely the kind of “coalition” fig-leaf favored by the US in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya. Any real fighting and transport will be done by French military units from Europe or bases in central Africa and Chad. And, of course, the Legion.
Washington has a different plan. The US wants to follow the model it is using to fight Somalia’s Shebab movement. In the last four years, the US has spent some $600 million to rent an African proxy force of 20,000 Ugandan, Ethiopian and Kenyan soldiers to invade Somalia and battle Shebab.
Washington plans a similar strategy in Mali, led by its sexy new star, Africa Command. Nigeria is expected to play a key role; Morocco and Algeria may contribute troops.
All this seems like a lot of effort to combat a bunch of Saharan tribesmen and trouble-makers in pickup trucks in a place whose main city, Timbuktu, is a synonym for remoteness and obscurity. No matter. The US and French media are dutifully raising alarms about the “Islamic threat” from deepest Sahara – in part to distract from domestic economic woes.
Is the US ready to wage yet another little conflict – on credit? Doesn’t Washington have enough conflicts? Apparently not.
Mali could get nasty: neighbors Algeria, Mauritania, Burkina Faso, and Ivory Coast are unstable. The Saharawi of Western Sahara have fought for decades against Morocco for their own state. They are backed by Algeria.
Into this potential tinder box France and the US are preparing to charge. “On to Timbuktu” goes out the battle cry of the latest obscure crusade.
Copyright Eric S. Margolis 2012
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14th January 2013 at 2:37 pm
flash says:
On nossss , If we let Timbuktu fall to Islam the rest of Christendom will fall like dominoes.
We must fight the rightsof the people of Timbuktu to be ruled by international corporations……fire up those Huey’s.
Timbuktu , what’s not to love?
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14th January 2013 at 2:46 pm
flash says:
Timbuktu…nothing here a tactical nuke could’t improve.
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14th January 2013 at 2:47 pm
hollow man says:
We r about to surrender freedom.
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14th January 2013 at 2:54 pm
Llpoh says:
You know a country is fucked when its citizens begin to move to sunny Russia rather than remain at home.
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14th January 2013 at 3:51 pm
Pcaldallas says:
And why is France bombing Mali? Oil of course:
http://www.afrol.com/articles/24339
Finally serious oil explorations in Mali
Within one week, two oil companies have signed oil and gas exploration deals with the government of Mali that oblige them to invest millions of US dollars n the search of petroleum in the country’s vast desert. Both Algeria’s national oil company SONATRACH and the Canadian owned Selier Energy say that the vast Taoudeni basin, at Mali’s borders with Mauritania and Algeria, shows great potentials for major oil and gas discoveries.
The Bamako Mining and Energy Ministry on Monday announced it had signed an energy concession deal with Algeria’s SONATRACH, a state-controlled company that has long experience with hydrocarbon exploration and production just north of Mali, in similar geological and envirnomnetal conditions as the Taoudeni basin. SONATRACH also operates in comparable basins in Niger and Libya.
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14th January 2013 at 3:58 pm
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I detect U.S. involvement in this mess in 3, 2, 1….
Terrorists Taunt France After Failed Rescue Mission
By LEE FERRAN and RYM MOMTAZ | ABC News
Al Qaeda-linked terrorists in Africa today posted gruesome pictures of a man they said was a French commando killed in a failed operation to rescue a French intelligence agent overnight Friday.
The pictures, released via Twitter by the Somalia-based terror group al-Shabaab, show a white male in a dark blue shirt and camouflage pants surrounded by military gear and weapons. The shirt is covered in blood and the man appears to be dead. As a caption for one photo that shows the man’s crucifix necklace, al-Shabaab tweeted, “A return of the crusades, but the cross could not save him from the sword.”
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14th January 2013 at 4:57 pm
SSS says:
AWD
The U.S. was involved in the attempted rescue operation in Somalia and also is currently involved in providing logistical support in Mali. Sigh. Will it never end?
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14th January 2013 at 5:16 pm
Kill Bill says:
Sigh. Will it never end? -SSS
The Earth is a beautiful place. I adore it, It is our home and our spaceship and life support system
The insane things that run about it trying to destroy one another, that will never control it… not so much.
It will end when they end us all, I fear, for money, resources, empowerment or belief systems.
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I'm French and I wipe my ass with dollars says:
so much bullshit to read here it’s breathtaking. I wonder if there’s any redneck on this tread with an IQ over 80.
Hope@ZeroKelvin, you bitch, the lack of testosterone is the main characteristic of the males in your country, that’s why they’re so shit scared to lose their toy-gun. loudmouth for sure, but small dicks.
Eddie, St Exupery was the most fucked up pilot in France and everybody knew it. you are obviously talking about things you don’t know. I won’t waste my time, just learn history and talk after.
SSS, you CIA sucker, your former pals are involved in Mali so the best for you would be to duck for cover. you display here once again an impressive level of knowledge. about the Maginot line:
it has never been designed to stop an invasion but to give 2 days to the army to organize resistance behind. the only time Germans decided to face the line for real at Mottenberg, they went so butcherfucked that they lost 1100 guys and their commanding officer in half an hour. for the whole line itself, a dozen of the weakest bunkers lost out of 64 strongholds during the conflict. as for the “pussies” inside, several hundred of then preferred to blow themselves with TNT rather than surrender, and the others went out 2 weeks after the fall of the country after Germans threatened civilians.
read books rather than masturbate under viagra.
Rubmyass1, are you talking about the US miltary? you are perfectly right. at least the movie blackhawk down depicts it very well. as for the Tornado, well…did you know that Tornado that is one of the shittiest plane in the entire universe is british? and flown by british in combat? it seems that you have a fair share of brit blood, beside being an inbred.
StuckenScheiße, your former country Austria has been beaten so many times by France that it’s beyond any Abrechnung. Austria even gave one princess to be the hoe of a French king. it took one morning and 0 casualties for the German to take control of Austria that is a bunch of dark haired mountain monkeys, and not an aryan area. pick up your teeth and go home.
AWD, the socialist pussies are those who elected a communist nigga for the second time in a row, and are for the most happy with it. unfortunatly for you I know both US and France rules and situation, and you will be happy to learn that USA are on the path to become the biggest socialist country in the world far before France that is currently stepping back on worker’s wages rules (heh?). my advice, get a life.
Richard, you are a sofa couch potato but not only, you are a son of a bitch and a motherfucker.
you make fun other the death of a guy that was worth a hundred of POS like you.
the guys got ambushed by a hundred of angry sandniggers that had been warned, lost 2 guys and ice 17 fuckers. ok, that’s a failure, that’s war.
let’s talk about another failure then: 7 CIA operatives killed in Afghanistan
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34687312/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/t/al-qaida-double-agent-killed-cia-officers/
let’s not forget Lybia:
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2012/09/islamists_kill_us_am.php
before, I didn’t gave a shit about this story, but right now I feel like drinking champagne.
the list of fuckups on the American side is just huge…remember the AV8B’s on the Afghan airbase? even the japs never managed that.
DaveL, an old fart. even not worth wasting time.
Llpoh, You know a country is fucked when its citizens begin to move to sunny Canada rather than remain at home.
Pcaldallas, maybe the only one equiped for thinking down here. exept than the point isn’t oil but uranium. Niger that has a border with Mali is one of the biggest provider of uranium in the world, with no problems of environmental rules nor difficult access. mine’s infrastructures can be huge and easy to secure, until now. the biggest mine in the world is currently being settled and investments are huge. Niger will represent 15% of world nuclear fuel. so far, uranium is a free market so the French are not only securing their energy, but the German’s one because they rely on French plants to continue to pretend they make “green” energy, and mostly they keep the price of electricity low for fucking American hyprocrites (that are the biggest users).
a village with a herd of goats falls to Malian insurgents? whooowhooo! there was no french troops on the ground and nothing worth a bomb…period.
the frenchs do the dirty job your pussy president don’t want to do because he’s a muslim cock sucker, and you blame on them? LMAO. the ones that will face terrorist attacks are them, but you won’t even think of it, you bastards slimos. I just hope the insurgent will catch one or two CIA agents and display them on tweeters.
in case you didn’t understand properly, read my lips:
FUCK YOU ALL
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llpoh says:
Wow – Frenchie – given your government takes 75% of that dollar, you must get shit all over your fingers by doing that. Must make your croissants taste funny:
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I'm French and I wipe my ass with dollars says:
oh, by the way, France is fucked? probably. but we will always have enough electricity to watch the US collapse soon enough. 180 wars and we’re still here.
I can’t wait to watch the global happiness of 85% of the world population. priceless
don’t waste your time answering. I get the fuck outa her. forever
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I'm French and I wipe my ass with dollars says:
llpoh,
at least I’ve seen a picture of you before I leave.
when i think of you paying the same percentage through regulations, income tax, business tax, private pension scheme, private healthcare and who knows what, I can’t help giggling…
a special fuck you, just for you moron!
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14th January 2013 at 6:48 pm
llpoh says:
Frenchie – Seriously, I really like France. It would be my favorite place on earth if it weren’t for the fucking French.
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14th January 2013 at 6:49 pm
llpoh says:
Gee, I hope he doesn’t leave. I was just getting started. I haven’t even gotten around to the tons of dogshit on Paris streets, the hairy underarms sported by their womenfolk, their 35 hour workweek, their Socialist president driving out the most productive citizens, their love of unions and their endles strikes, etc. Oh yes, France is just wonderful.
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14th January 2013 at 6:53 pm
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14th January 2013 at 7:04 pm
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French
It was just a joke. But I am definitely a redneck. What’s an IQ? Just another number.
I am aware that St. Exupery had his detractors. Including De Gaulle, if I’m not mistaken. I think he was a cool guy, myself, but maybe it’s the mystique, that whole Paris to Saigon mail run thing. I only know him through his writing.
Great rant, btw.I actually like France.
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14th January 2013 at 7:06 pm
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@ I’m French and I wipe my ass with dollars who said “I get the fuck outa her. forever.”
Don’t leave. I like your style, and you have some good points. Particularly about France’s nuclear energy, which I would very much like to hear more about and its relationship to German energy policy.
If you’re not a professional doppelganger like Stucky (possible, but he would have had to go to an enormous amount of trouble to put together a writing style like yours that doesn’t fit his modus operendi), then stay awhile.
Americans have been picking on the French since quite awhile. And vice versa. It’s probably one of the most unusual bilateral relationships in history.
So, don’t go away mad. Lend your voice to any discussion that you wish. Just be aware that people will not always treat you kindly here. Deal with it rather than say “I get the fuck outta here.”
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14th January 2013 at 7:13 pm
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SSS –
What he says about Germany relying on French power is true. When I was stationed over there in the last decade during the world wide green hysteria the German government was on a kick in trying to produce more green energy. The funny part is exactly what the French poster said, the Germans reduced their own ability to produce energy via the elimination of coal and nuclear plants among others, and then placed massive amounts of wind mills all around. Of course this wasn’t near enough so they had to purchase even more energy from France, which at the time I believe had almost 79% of their electricity come from nuclear power.
This article claims France exports much energy to other neighboring countries as well.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-30/germany-becomes-net-power-importer-from-france-after-atomic-halt.html
What I found very funny is when some other nations suggested Germany regulate its entire autobahn to reduce CO2 emissions. They would hear nothing of it and scoffed at the idea. Also, they would write you a ticket if you idled your car longer than 2 minutes.
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14th January 2013 at 7:31 pm
flash says:
Dammmmnnnn… hope French sticks around..I haven’t head an ass blistering Rant like that on TBP since Smokey lefty.
BTW, a little historical fact about the French in WWII.
http://lewrockwell.com/margolis/margolis243.html
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14th January 2013 at 7:32 pm
llpoh says:
SSS just loves strays. He needs to remember no good deed goes unpunished.
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14th January 2013 at 7:35 pm
Micro-Be says:
This is not on topic but it is very interesting: German industry is apparently suffering from grid instability caused by the addition of renewable sources of energy into the energy supply.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/instability-in-power-grid-comes-at-high-cost-for-german-industry-a-850419.html
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14th January 2013 at 7:38 pm
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You’re right. I do like strays. I like a lively conversation.
Unfortunately, I fear we will never hear from Frenchy again IF he were a genuine article, which is not an absolute certainty, given that he knows a lot about the people here. Anyway, he could have added a much needed well-grounded European perspective.
We don’t have all the answers.
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14th January 2013 at 7:49 pm
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Frenchie=Stucky. Book it. But pretty fucking funny, Stuck. A real Frenchman would not be so literate or observant of TBP poster’s details. I smell Austrian attention to detail. That would be my redneck, sub 80 IQ talking, of course.
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14th January 2013 at 10:21 pm
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Frenchie is real. That was an epic rant. Very enjoyable.
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14th January 2013 at 10:22 pm
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Admin, with all due respect (which is a lot), I call bullshit. There is no way on God’s green earth that Frenchy has been lurking on TBP long enough to pick up on all those details, waiting for you to post a humiliating post about French cowardice (yeah, I said it), to get his licks in, then disappear into the webisphere (“I get the fuck outta here-forever”-that is classic!). No fucking way. Could be Colma, but the style looks SINJ to me. Or maybe SIPA?
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14th January 2013 at 10:33 pm
Mikey says:
@Frenchie – I’ll add my voice for you to hang around. A truely blistering rant can be a thing of beauty, and someone else beside Colma needs to hang around and kick these fat USAnians in the nads every now and then.
I probably should, but I can’t be assed.
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14th January 2013 at 1:43 am
crazyivan says:
frenchie = admin
Like sands through an hourglass, these are the times of our lives.
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14th January 2013 at 2:04 am
Mikey says:
Say it ain’t so Crazy!
we need more literate, well reasoned spittle covered rants from new blood!
it’s getting too boring for us lurkers without them!
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14th January 2013 at 2:22 am
Zarathustra says:
On my dad’s side, my ancestor came to this country from France. Well not really, it was Alsace Lorraine which at that time was under the control of the Prussian Empire. At 18, he avoided the draft by becoming a stowaway on a ship bound for America. It was just before the American Revolution. I have a prayer book, written in old german, that I inherited from my grandmother into which some ancestor wrote his life story, in pencil, in the back cover.
The book was published in 1776 in Bremen. This is no joke. In America he was eventually picked up by the British and as a Prussian national, forced to serve in their Hessian forces. After the revolution, he was deported back to Prussia. He was deemed by the Prussian authorities to have satisfied his military service requirement and he legally emigrated to the United States; I suspect he had a girlfriend.
So there. I am descended from a draft dodger. I am so proud of him.
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14th January 2013 at 4:31 am
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My bet is Frenchy is Llpoh. Same avatar and smart enough to have a conversation with himself.
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14th January 2013 at 4:44 am
I'm still French says:
ok, It’s snowing outside, cars are stuck in the traditional complete mess of the first real winter day, coffee is hot, check. enough battery charge in the laptop, check. blood pressure in the normal range, check. let’s waste some time like a teenager with a playstation.
llpoh. clearly what you know of France revolves about the usual red flags Americans focus on, as wel as a deep trauma due to dog shit when you were younger.
1- Paris: Paris is the worst shithole on hearth with the worst airport of the galaxy, ANY sound minded french would prefer to be thrown in some barbwire than to live in Paris. I would personally prefer to live in a hellhole like Los Angeles, can you imagine that? or Bangkok. towns like Budapest are much easier to live in. you talk about inhabitants of Paris? first half of them are not French because Paris attract all the shit this planet can produce annually. of course after they learned French, they look like French even if they have the education of a brit suburb punk or of a towelhead from the most retarded tribe. so record it, Frenchs HATE people from Paris.
2- Dog shits: resistance has started in the 90′s, can be fined for that today. the only kind of people who don’t give a damn are old grannies and people with low level of education (read people coming from multiculturalism, inbreds and drunkards).
3- hairy underarms: llpoh, you’re really an unlucky guy. not only you take dogshit baths, but you pick the most ugly conchitas for a night? hopeless.
this doesn’t happen in my place. sorry.
do you know were i saw (and smelled) the most dirty caucasian people in all my life? in the public transportation of downtown Dublin, Ireland (1 month there). but I agree that the Paris underground is a close call.
4- unions: you have a company, so I know that if I spell the U word, you will start mumbling and foaming from the mouth. polititians have always been good at fucking people deep in France. before the unions in the late 20′s in France, people were working an average 60 hours, children started working as early as 8 and males were happy if they made it to their 65. there was no unemployment, no social security, no free drugs nor cares, no vacations, absolutly NOTHING. the most “welfare” country in the world was Great Britain at the time.
then came the unions. let’s not forget that 1 male out of 4 between 18 and 35 years had been killed at the time. manpower was needed, and government had to refrain shooting at protesters like they used before. they prefered to give than to spark a communist revolution like in Russia or Germany. as a result the Front Populaire came to power in 1936, and some old workers discovered the word “holiday” for the very first time of their lives. 1 or 2 weeks a year.
people were living on their little cloud, and that’s why the battle against Germany was lost. along with sabotage and illegal strikes from communists(allied of Germans at the time), betrayal of General Hutzinger, conspiracy at the highest level of the state, illegal coup and treason from marechal Petain. whatever…the point is that people never got something from government in France until unions took power, this is what rooted the disease.
there is NEVER balanced decisions in France, this is always a duel between a minority and others, and will always be.
BY THE WAY 7,5% of union workers in France, 52% in Norway, 26% in Germany, 12,4% in USA…get it?
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14th January 2013 at 4:55 am
Llpoh says:
Frenchie – very nice. I hope you hang around. We are not so bad once you get to know us.
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14th January 2013 at 5:23 am
Zarathustra says:
France responds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSo0duY7-9s
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14th January 2013 at 5:23 am
I'm still French says:
Zara, LOL
llpoh, it doesn’t sound like you. get out this body!
Eddie, you shown some interrest, I’ll take some time as an aviation fan.
do you know how St Exupery married his wife?
he was in a plane over Argentina with her and 2 officials. he put the plane in a dive and asked “will you marry me” until she had to say yes to avoid a crash. this is true
there is no other pilot in France that crashed so many planes and survived, until his suicide in 1945.
France had many noticeable airmen, but the one I prefer is Henri Guillaumet. a friend of St Exupery.
he was the guy that was flying the line Buenos-Aires to Santiago de Chile (start 1927) for the Aeropostale company. carrying mail, he was flying a plane that had a ceiling of 21,000 Ft EMPTY and had to pass summits at 19,500 on a regular basis, with a different solution to find each time. he crashed the 13th of June 1930 in a snowstorm because of a strong airstream.
this guy will walk alone about 38 miles in high mountain during seven days, with no foods, no water, hands and feet frozen, and semi-blind in temperatures close to 0°F at night. he will be rescued by a familly at Puesto Cerro Negro. it was so unbelievable that people still remember it in Chile. he will then be the first to pronounce the famous sentence:
“what I did, I swear it, no animal on earth could do it”
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14th January 2013 at 6:18 am
I'm still French says:
AKAnon,
since TBP is a public place, anybody on this planet with minimal english skills can read and post here.
do you remember when it was time to piss the Greeks? some of them posted here, and they were right to do so. because they were the people truly fucked in this story, and not the corrupt ones responsible for the huge mess funneling billions in Switzerland.
It’s easy to take all the bullshit spewed by the medias (themselves owned by those who push their agenda, and set the rules) as the truth.
in France those who want to keep their chin up say the “merdias” instead (like shit-dias for MSM)
llpoh have you an idea of the percentage of Frenchs that currently agree with our president policy?
——-28%——
as we say here, if we dig deeper we will end finding oil…
this pink socialist pork is so confident that when he visit a military unit, he asks the ammos AND the firing pin to be removed from the weapons. this because they more and more “forget” to pay the troops sometimes as the country is broke.
I’m almost sure there’s similar cases in the US, I’ve heard of some US units in Afghanistan paid late, late if not at all.
the whole circus will go kaboom, it’s just a question of time.
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14th January 2013 at 6:48 am
Llpoh says:
Frenchie – . Great stuff. For a frog. ( only kidding – you are really welcome here.) I can hardly wait til we start abusing De Gaulle. That should get your beret in a twist.
I am visiting France later in the year. Avignon for a week, perhaps. Should be nice. Now if only the French could cook.
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14th January 2013 at 7:00 am
Llpoh says:
BTW – indeed I do hate unions. I tend to foam when they are mentioned.
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14th January 2013 at 7:02 am
Administrator says:
AKAnon
The IP address hasn’t been used before by any of the regulars.
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14th January 2013 at 7:05 am
Administrator says:
I’m still French has spunk.
I hate spunk.
Welcome to the land of shit throwing monkeys.
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14th January 2013 at 7:14 am
card802 says:
Frenchie was very enlightening.
If it’s true that only 28% of the French approve of their president, Hollande fears for his safety while visiting military base’s and also understands that this entire circus will end in tragedy, then maybe Admin needs to start a European TBP. Get the word out to the world. We may need ally’s.
Frenchie, I’m French Canadian, my last name means “someone who lives by a road” and soon enough we Americans will wipe our ass with the dollar, that’s all it will be good for, and we know it.
I even have an Austrian Economist in the family, so LaTeDa.
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14th January 2013 at 7:43 am
I'm still French says:
of course, if you want the real numbers, don’t rely on any government funded organisation to provide it. but I doubt someone will learn something here.
we are in a deep shit indeed. I don’t know what would be the best option for us. time will tell
we have been without revolution for too long, probably.
llpoh, Avignon is nice in the old town but the amount of time it can keep someone busy visiting is limited. I would say 3 days max. the Pope’s palace is an empty shell that has been plundered during the revolution, mostly exteriors that are interesting. maybe a museum or two. what I prefer here: waking up early in the morning and watching the landscape under the sunrise from the garden of the Popes. avoid absolutly this town during the festival!! crowded, noisy…unless you seek for it.
like any tourist trap, take care for your belongings…some fucking gipsys send kids to steal in the pockets. if you roam the area, I think the region has some quite typical villages. best moment: early June, in my mind. forget mid-July to mid-August, like for every southern place.
card802, I think I have a remote aunt that lived in Salt lake city. families are widespread today
if you’re a Quebéquois, then you’re a kind of north american cousin.
as for organizing a worldwide TBP: a loss of time. first it wouldn’t jack shit. second, cutural differences are such that you would never a quality debate. third, what allies? if all hell break loose, I think we will all have to cope with our survival, there’s not much that we’ll be able to do on a state to state level. governments are much more weak that they used to be 70 years ago (despite the full techno-control mania), and anarchy is a risk. last but not least: TBP is already international (for those who can stand the flaming)!
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14th January 2013 at 9:24 am
Stucky says:
I greatly enjoy getting credit as the Frenchie dopple.
However, I would NEVER refer to myself even in jest as StuckenScheiße — a horrible insult that hurt my feelings.
Nope. Wasn’t me.
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14th January 2013 at 10:02 am
AKAnon says:
Stuck-The first few posts definitely seemed your doppleganger style, but the follow-ups have shown Frenchy to be your intellectual superior. That is why I started to suspect Admin.
Frenchy-Pardon my scepticism. We have been inundated by dopples (as you must well know), and the notion of a highly literate and coherent Frenchman who also paid so much attention to TBP regulars seemed highly unlikely. However, you are either legit, have bamboozled the Admin (highly unlikely), or cajoled/bribed him into conspiracy (somewhat more likely, but doubtful). So I am forced to accept you as a genuine newcomer, from, of all places, France. So how do you explain the MAS 49 rifle, arguably the most butt-ugly military weapon of all time, and reportedly (although I have no personal experience) a mechanical piece of shit?
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14th January 2013 at 10:42 am
card802 says:
Stuck, you can join Obama. Poor guy said he’s lonely at the top, he’s forming a support group for lonely men with hurt feewings.
Frenchie, oui Quebec, my great grandfather moved the family in the late 1800′s to Marquette MI in the upper peninsula, changed the name in 1910, and then my grandfather moved his family (including my father) to West Michigan for work at a defense plant in the 40′s. Supposed to have Indian in me as well, but one great grandmother hid or destroyed that history as she was aghast that she had Indian blood in her veins.
My grandpa always called grandma his squaw. I miss them. They would be gone for a year or more traveling Canada, and Alaska. They would get in their canoe and go up a river for weeks, true outdoors men.
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14th January 2013 at 10:51 am
Frenchie says:
AKAnon, I’ve been watching this site and the former at least 4 years, maybe more.
I was there before many. If I’ve rev up on this topic, it’s because when French do something that suit directly or undirectly American’s general interrest, they should have support for once.
when Smokey was there, I used to flame him for free, in order to spark an entertaining fight as a spectator. sad he kicked the bucket.
“So how do you explain the MAS 49 rifle, arguably the most butt-ugly military weapon of all time”
well, It’s a question of point of view. the Garand is regarded as a marvel by the Americans, but I prefer the sturdy magazine of the MAS 49 to the 8 rounds clip. they are both heavy as hell, they both kick like mules. the Garand is accurate, but less practical in combat and longer. I learned to shot with a MAS 49-56, that’s why it will remain my favorite.
as for the mechanical piece of shit, I call bullshit here. it is a real marvel compared to an AK, but has to be cared like all French weapons. I remember it was a delayed recoil with an inertia amplification lever, just like a german MG42. never had a misfire, just had to keep it greasy.
I was able to put it in pieces and put it back to service in less than 1 minute and in the dark.
you can’t find one in France under 2400$, but in the US it’s worth nothing. our authorities are so kind with us, that they prevent us to have our own weapons. mofos…
AKAnon, let’s NOT start a gun topic or we’ll forget wife and children.
card802, interresting background. do everything possible to keep track of your family story, and learn to the children.
when you don’t know were you come from, difficult to know were you go…
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14th January 2013 at 1:47 pm
llpoh says:
Frenchie
Thanks for the Statue of Liberty. Now, fuck off.
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14th January 2013 at 1:57 pm
AKAnon says:
OK, Frenchie, I’m convinced. Welcome. But I’ll take a Garand any day.
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14th January 2013 at 2:09 pm
ThePessimisticChemist says:
My father bought an old french military rifle at a gun show a while back.
Its never been fired, and only dropped twice.
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14th January 2013 at 2:47 pm
Llpoh says:
That was a dopple llpoh. I want Frenchie to hang around.
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14th January 2013 at 3:59 pm
Administrator says:
llpoh
It’s simply outrageous that someone would dare dopple you.
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14th January 2013 at 4:19 pm
Stucky says:
What Admin said. +1
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14th January 2013 at 4:20 pm
Llpoh says:
Jethr – You are just so fearsome I almost wet myself in fear. Too bad I have no idea what your point is about. Just a subhumanoid passing by it seems.
With a name like jethr (guess jethro was too hard to spell), I suspect you are missing a few teeth yourself. Back to your porch, Deliverance boy.
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14th January 2013 at 1:41 am
TheSpanishSupporter says:
I’m spanish and I actually live in France, what the fuck is wrong with you americans ?
Who gaves you freedom ?
Who gaves you democracy ?
What the fuck they did to you ?
Because they didn’t support you in the iraqi war that you have to insult them ? Are you serious ? Have you ever been to France ? Have you ever been to school ? HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN EUROPE ?
Damn you fucking shitty americans.
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14th January 2013 at 4:06 pm
Administrator says:
Blow Me
Si
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14th January 2013 at 4:10 pm
Eddie says:
Been to Europe. Nice place to live if you’re rich.
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14th January 2013 at 4:14 pm
TheSpanishSupporter says:
I live in a 250 000 € house that I bought 70 000 € because I live in the country side.
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14th January 2013 at 4:15 pm
Llpoh says:
Spanish – nice economy you got going. You know you have fucked your country when you see a move to France as an improvement. I guess picking olives is not as lucrative as it once was.
Spain – where unemployment is a way of life. I understand Spain is so fucked they are considering selling citizenship to anyone stupid enough to be willing to move there.
You Spanish must be praying for a return to the good old days of freedom and economic success you had under Franco.
Fucking shitty Spaniards.
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14th January 2013 at 4:20 pm
Administrator says:
Europe is imploding.
You’ve run out of other people’s money.
Enjoy your 16 weeks of vacation. It ain’t gonna last.
The Germans will be coming for their money.
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14th January 2013 at 4:21 pm
Llpoh says:
Spanish – my fucking garage is worth more than that. Who the fuck cares what your house is worth. You also live where the tax rate is going to 75% and the leader is a socialist. You moron.
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14th January 2013 at 4:23 pm
Administrator says:
Moving from a fucked up country like Spain to a more fucked up country like France doesn’t make you a rocket scientist.
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14th January 2013 at 4:25 pm
Administrator says:
Spaniards are a bright bunch
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14th January 2013 at 4:28 pm
LLPOH says:
My name is Iniego Montoya, you kill my father, prepare to die!
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14th January 2013 at 6:19 pm
François Hollande, “a close friend of Mali” | elcidharth says:
[...] jokes were inevitable as French troops battle Islamic fighters in Mali: France surrenders to a handful of [...]
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14th January 2013 at 3:45 pm
FckFrog says:
What do you to say now hahaha? I must admit that this is the fastest and most successful intervention made by a western country for a while…their special forces are just not kidding and on the politic front they managed to get the backing of Malians, Africans, Arabs, western countries, UN and even the EU! WoW, the anglo world looks stupid…
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14th January 2013 at 4:20 pm
Administrator says:
You’re still broke. Celebrate your victory over some 3rd world ragheads. Wait until the Germans come to collect their money. You’ll piss your pants like you’ve done for centuries. Viva la Frog
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14th January 2013 at 4:53 pm
Bostonbob says:
Admin,
I was going to print something relevant toFrance’s insolvency but that is too easy. We can cheer them trying to resurrect an old American tradition, the train robbery.Here is a piece of news from the Figaro which does not seem to have gone international:
http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2013/02/02/97001-20130202FILWWW00450-des-jeunes-stoppent-un-tgv-a-marseille.php
Essentially, a group of young French/North Africans from Marseilles stopped a high-speed train and tried to rob it. They were chased off by the police.
Google’s translation was so bad that I reworded it:
Twenty youths forced a TGV to stop on Saturday when it was returning from Marseilles to Nice and attempted to board before taking flight on the arrival of the police.
It had left the Saint-Charles station in Marseille a little after 14 pm when the driver was forced to stop by torches placed on the line in the district of La Pomme.
“These red flame torches are security tools that is commonly used to indicate a big problem and in this case the drivers are instructed to stop,” said a spokesman for the regional management of the SNCF Provence-Alpes-Côte d’Azur.
Some damage
The police were alerted immediately and the attackers fled on foot. Five of them were arrested. The train, whose doors remained locked, suffered minor damage and left shortly before 16 hours, according to these sources.
Nine young people from a city in the 11th arrondissement of the city were arrested and placed in custody at the Police department.
“We went back to the time of attacks on stagecoaches, it is full Wild West … We’ve had attacks in Marseille freight trains in the northern suburbs, and assault regular controllers now was taken a step further with this unconventional attack. Pending understand the motivations of those thugs a city that more sensitive (classified Priority Security Zone, ed.), we welcome the swift action of our colleagues who acted to preserve the safety of passengers and who put themselves in danger, “said David-Olivier Reverdy, Deputy Secretary zonal police union Alliance.
It is pretty obvious to me that this can only escalate with copy-cat activities by others around France. The gulf between the passengers on these luxurious trains and the people who live near the tracks is growing too large. It is one thing defending airports, but defending a railway line is a lot more difficult.
Alas they cannot seam to even get this right.I am sure that this gang of resourceful youths were not part of France’s FSA with youth unemployment at about 25%. Of course when you can go to college until you are 25 you are not considered unemployed.
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14th January 2013 at 5:51 pm
Eddie says:
French Special Forces Playbook
1. First kill all the hostages, so you don’t have to do any messy bargaining with terrorists.
2. Call the CIA.
3. Everything else is just spin.
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14th January 2013 at 6:27 pm