The time to make hard decisions is coming whether or not we want to admit it. I don’t think a tougher decision will have been made since just before the Civil War when the “strong” leader (tyrant) led the nation sharply away from freedom.
Eric Peters asked the question all of us who cherish true freedom must ask ourselves. He’s made his decision, have you…?
Will You Submit & Obey?
By eric
In New York, we have a prequel of what’s to come – the repeal of the Second Amendment and summary criminalization of peaceful citizens merely for possessing the means of self-defense, even in their own homes. As in Great Britain, citizens of NY face prison if they use proscribed weapons against murderous thugs – even in their own homes. The tyrants Michael Bloomberg and Andrew Cuomo have made their decision. Now New Yorkers will have to make theirs. And so will the rest of us – if, as seems likely, the federal tyrants succeed in issuing a New York-style fatwa that applies to the rest of the country. Which brings us to the question:
What will you do?
It is a very hard question. Perhaps the hardest question Americans have had to face since 1861. As then, there may be no peaceful way to preserve our rights. There may be blood. As then, one side is absolutely determined to impose its will at bayonet-point. To murder us in the thousands – perhaps millions, this time - if we refuse to submit. There is no reasoning, no discussing. What we face is violence against our persons by people who absolutely will not leave us in peace – no matter how peaceful we try to be – until we have submitted to them utterly and for all time to come. We wish only to be left alone – and demand that our right to defend ourselves against those who will not leave us alone be respected. That self-defense is the most basic of rights – a right conceded even to the lowest animal. They do not acknowledge our rights; they despise the very notion of us having any rights at all. They regard their power over us as limitless in principle – and rage at even the smallest assertion of freedom of action. They loathe our guns because our ownership of guns is an expression of our determination to defend our very lives – and thus, of self-ownership.
And that is what cannot be tolerated. Which is why the current bum-rush to disarm us has become absolutely frantic. The moment is at hand. We will either stand up and be reckoned with as free men – or we will sit down forever and accept any degradation, any humiliation. And in that case, we shall have proved worthy of such treatment.
Future generations will look upon us with the same mixture of incomprehension and contempt that our generation looked upon those who meekly lined up naked in queue for their turn at the edge of the pit. Because it will come to that, in time.
For decades, in a slow and incremental way, they have progressively increased their claims on us. On the most intimate details of our private lives. On our literal bodies and those of our children. We no longer enjoy even the vestigial liberty of being free in our own homes. They are everywhere. They recognize no limits, no boundary beyond which they may not assert themselves over us. They read and record our conversations. They demand to know the minutia of our finances. They tell us with whom we must do business – and under what conditions. They lay claim to an unlimited amount of our income. They deny us even the prospect of real ownership of anything more than the clothes on our backs. They assert their “right” – that is, their unchecked power to do us violence – for any and no reason at all, beyond the reason that they have power and we do not. We are on the cusp now of literal, physical enslavement. Of being owned – because we are about to be rendered utterly defenseless.
Legally rendered defenseless.
If that is not just cause for resistance, then there is no cause for resisting anything, ever. Which is exactly the point being insisted upon: That we have no right to resist, because we have no rights. It is our role to Submit and Obey. Immediately, quietly. To anything and everything they tell us to do. To complacently accept as natural and right that our lives are the playthings of others – who may do with us as they please. That our lives do not matter. Because we do not own our lives.
Our lives are owned by them.
If we lose this battle, then we have already lost the war. The rest will be a mopping up operation. Having taken away not merely our guns but succeeded in intellectually defrocking us of the principle of self-defense and self-ownership that possessing arms affirms, it will be a very small thing indeed to take away much else besides.To take away anything – perhaps everything. Why not? We have already surrendered – and thus, already accepted the idea that nothing is off limits, that whatever small measure of vestigial liberty we may still possess is not actually possessed but merely tolerated . . . for the moment. And may be taken from us at any time, at their whim.
A defenseless man should expect no mercy. And a man unwilling to defend himself – and his fellow men – against tyranny deserves none.
Michael Bloomberg and Andrew Cuomo have made their decision. Diane Feinstein and Barack Obama will soon make theirs.
Then it will be our turn.
I have already made mine. It is the same decision made by Joshua Boston (USMC):
“I will not register my weapons…
“I am not your subject…
“I am not your peasant… .”
I am not a “tough guy.” I am not looking for a fight. Rather, I desperately wish to avoid one. I’m a middle-aged American just trying to live my life, work, enjoy my pastimes and my friends and family. To be an American. A free American. I dearly value my life. Which is precisely why, if I am backed into a corner by those who refuse to leave me be – even though I harm none – then I will turn and fight. God help me.
God help us all.
Throw it in the Woods
Original HERE.
T4C says:
This link will show you what a true PSA (Public Service Announcement) is. Brilliantly done Sheriff David Clarke!
Sheriff David Clarke Urges Americans To Defend Themselves – Liberals Go Ballistic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-8TCx-sM1vw
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26th January 2013 at 4:57 pm
napari says:
Glenn Beck says peaceful disobedience in the same spirit as Martin Luther King and Gandi is the correct way to go about it and I tend to agree. They want our guns…the answer is no. Can they possibly arrest us all…the answer is no.
If someone goes out there and starts shooting the military will likely come in and drop a 500lb daisy cutter or drone people to death.
What we all should do is connect with neighbors and support each other and get to know our local county sheriff’s! Local county sheriff’s are the last rule of law and they have the final say.
We can all arm ourselves for a last stand but one must ask what the result will be…. a win or a loss?
Peaceful disobedience might not taste good to some who wish to go out in a blaze of glory but again I ask… WHAT WILL THE RESULT BE? A WIN OR A LOSS? I happen to like winning
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26th January 2013 at 4:58 pm
Nonanonymous says:
I will submit neither to registration nor confiscation. Neither will I flaunt the law.
It’s none of their business what I own. Therefore, as far as they, the feds, are concerned, I own nothing that should be either registered or confiscated.
Should the need arise for that which is neither registered nor confiscated, it will come out of it’s hidden place and reap grievously upon those which seek to do me harm.
The largest standing army in the world are the US citizen. God forbid that anyone should comply with unlawful orders to disarm.
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26th January 2013 at 5:05 pm
AKAnon says:
Registration/confiscation? No problem. I just checked quite carefully-nothing here that warrants registration or confiscation. Have a nice day:)
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26th January 2013 at 5:15 pm
BUCKHED says:
The Tree Of Liberty Must Be Refreshed With The Blood Of Patriots And Tyrants From Time To Time.
We have forgotten what it means to be free…we have become part of the tidal wave that CONgress has swept over us for the last 148 years ( 1865 to present).
Chattel Slavery is when someone owns you…economic slavery happens when you allow the government to do everything for you.
Think you are free ? Build a garage without a permit and find out how free you are !
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26th January 2013 at 5:31 pm
KaD says:
I am not a dog I do not obey anyone. It’s better to die free than to live long as a slave.
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26th January 2013 at 6:11 pm
SSS says:
T4C
+10 for the link you provided on the public service announcement by Sheriff Dave Clarke (he’s black and he’s in a big city district ….. Milwaukee). 30 seconds, people. Click on it.
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26th January 2013 at 7:47 pm
napari says:
The way I see it our country is run by sociopaths starting with pres obama on down both sides of the aisles. These nut jobs dont care who lives or die’s so long as they remain in power. My guess is they are just waiting for an excuse to release the military with drone back up. Sandy Hook was the excuse they were looking for to push the gun control agenda. Obama couldnt wait to get out in front of the whole country with the fake teary eyed sorrow at the same time vowing to take action. Just as soon as one enlisted soldier gets injured the drones will eliminate resistance from miles away in the sky. If they eliminate 50 million people who disagree its no skin off their backs.
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26th January 2013 at 8:07 pm
Thunderbird says:
That sure is one ugly woman!
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26th January 2013 at 8:45 pm
AWD says:
Great article, great video link.
That Feinstein witch is the very face of liberal progressives that will bury us all.
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26th January 2013 at 8:47 pm
AWD says:
MARINE TELLS FEINSTEIN…
‘SHOVE IT UP YOUR…!’
MARINE VET CPL. JOSHUA BOSTON has become an American hero almost overnight.
After posting an Open Letter to Senator Feinstein at CNN’s iReport Site last week letting Feinstein know that he would not submit to her draconian law denuding him of his Second Amendment rights, Boston’s letter has now gone viral.
The veteran Marine, Joshua Boston, who was deployed to Afghanistan 2004 through 2005, informed Feinstein that he will NOT register his weapons nor does he believe Feinstein (and her ilk) has the right to require him to do so since he is not Feinstein’s “peasant,” but rather, she is subject to him and to all American citizens. Bravo!
The “No Ma’am’ Letter Of Ex-Marine Joshua Boston Reads As Follows:
Senator Dianne Feinstein,
I will not register my weapons should this bill be passed, as I do not believe it is the government’s right to know what I own.
Nor do I think it prudent to tell you what I own so that it may be taken from me by a group of people who enjoy armed protection yet decry me having the same a crime.
You ma’am have overstepped a line that is not your domain. I am a Marine Corps Veteran of 8 years, and I will not have some woman who proclaims the evil of an inanimate object, yet carries one, tell me I may not have one.
I am not your subject. I am the man who keeps you free. I am not your servant. I am the person whom you serve. I am not your peasant. I am the flesh and blood of America.
I am the man who fought for my country. I am the man who learned. I am an American. You will not tell me that I must register my semi-automatic AR-15 because of the actions of some evil man.
I will not be disarmed to suit the fear that has been established by the media and your misinformation campaign against the American public.
We, the people, deserve better than you.
Respectfully Submitted,
Joshua Boston
Cpl, United States Marine Corps
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26th January 2013 at 8:52 pm
KaD says:
AWD: do you have a link to Cpl Boston’s letter?
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26th January 2013 at 8:55 pm
AWD says:
Indeedy
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-902515
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26th January 2013 at 9:01 pm
AWD says:
Feinstein Introduces Massive Semi-Auto Firearm and Magazine Ban
Posted on January 25, 2013
On Jan. 24, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) introduced S. 150, her long-anticipated bill to ban “assault weapons” and “large” magazines. Contrary to media claims that Feinstein wants to “reinstate” the 1994 ban, the bill will go much further toward her stated long-term goal of gun confiscation, imposing a host of absurdly broad definitions and onerous restrictions:
Ban the sale, transfer, manufacture or importation of 157 named firearms. Presumably, these were chosen by looking at pictures, as Sen. Feinstein has said she did before introducing her first legislation on the issue in 1993.
Ban all semi-automatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine. This is because the bill would ban any semi-automatic detachable-magazine rifle that has even one “feature,” particularly a pistol grip—which is defined to include any “characteristic that can function as a grip.” Other features that would cause a rifle to be banned include a forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; grenade launcher or (as an absurd propaganda move) rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or a threaded barrel.
Ban all detachable-magazine semi-auto pistols that have any of the following: a threaded barrel, second pistol grip, or magazine that mounts anywhere other than the grip. The bill would also ban any handgun that is a semi-automatic version of a fully automatic handgun.
Ban all semi-automatic rifles and handguns that have fixed magazines that accept more then 10 rounds.
Ban all semi-automatic shotguns that have just one of the following: a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; a pistol grip; a fixed magazine that can accept more than five rounds, a detachable magazine; a forward grip; a revolving cylinder; or a grenade or rocket launcher. As with the rifle provision, this could potentially ban any semi-auto shotgun, because all of them have “characteristics that can function as a grip.” And of course, countless Americans have pistol-grip shotguns for home defense.
Ban all belt-fed semi-automatic firearms, such as semi-auto replicas of historic machine guns.
Ban all frames or receivers of banned guns, even though in many cases they are identical to the frames and receivers of guns that would not be banned.
Ban “combinations of parts” from which “assault weapons” can be assembled. Read broadly, this could ban the acquisition of a single spare part that could be combined with parts you already own.
Ban any “part, combination of parts, component, device, attachment, or accessory that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle”–a vague definition that could ban items such as competition trigger parts.
Ban the sale or transfer of all ammunition feeding devices that hold more than ten rounds. Even those lawfully possessed before passage of the bill could never be transferred, even to your heirs through a will.
Though not requiring registration of currently owned firearms under the National Firearms Act (as Feinstein threatened in December), the new bill would go far beyond the failed 1994 semi-auto ban by requiring background checks on the private transfer of any “grandfathered” firearm.
Finally, unlike the 1994 ban, the new bill will not include an automatic “sunset” clause, so it would remain in effect unless repealed.
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26th January 2013 at 9:45 pm
Outtahere says:
Indeed! Tough decisions are going to have to be made and probably pretty soon. But all one has to decide is whether they choose to live freely or under the boot of a tyrannical govt. Our last chance at living freely is upon us. Either we surrender our right to defend ourselves, family and country or we resist the government’s attempt to basically disarm Americans so that future meaningful resistance will not be possible.
People are not arming themselves in record numbers with semi-automatic rifles and pistols and emptying the shelves at any store selling ammo just to preserve their right to hunt. They’re just planning on preserving their rights period — whatever rights that may be. At last report it seems that about 5.5 millions guns were purchased by average American citizens in Nov. and Dec. alone. I was at a sporting goods store yesterday and observed an elderly couple next to me, the lady being in a wheel chair, purchasing a semi-auto pistol and ammunition. Any wonder why? SELF PROTECTION!
As I’ve stated here before, I will die at my front door refusing to give up ANY of my legally purchased and owned guns before I will surrender any of them. I’d rather die on my feet, on my terms, rather than live on my knees according to someone else’s terms.
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26th January 2013 at 9:55 pm
JIMSKI says:
Nope.
Our gun club has submitteted a registered letter to our Sherrif asking him what he will do in regards to Federal orders to register or confiscate private weapons. It has been 4 days and we are still waiting.
The next letter will let him know we have addresses for every single sherrif deputy and officer as well as family members.
Long story short, fat guy from OHIO is going to be on thenews soon!
I have been chosen as a spokemen for our group. It is our intention to let the govenment know that they are not the only organization that can keep a list.
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26th January 2013 at 10:04 pm
SSS says:
Barclays Loan
WTF? You’re posting the same irrelevant shit here and on “Sign of the Times” and “It Takes a Child.” I’m not clicking on the link you provided. Get the fuck off this site.
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26th January 2013 at 10:46 pm
Leobeer says:
Barclays looks like a scam to me. Barclays email addreses end in barclays.com . The “th” would indicate this originated in Thailand.
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26th January 2013 at 3:22 am
Makati1 says:
Those of you with ‘stiff backbones and brass balls’ are probably single or have no family you love. Words are worthless if your family is at risk and you disobey the government goons at your door. They will just take you ALL out. Do you think the government cannot find ‘Americans’ to do just that? Bust down your door and kill your family if they are ordered to? Hitler didn’t have any problems finding thousands of such men in a small country like Germany and he didn’t have drugged out killers fighting in his cities. We do and many of them would sign up if the benes were big enough. But then, a drone flown from (pick your country) would do it easily like we do to the Afghans or Iraqis. Missile into your bedroom window. Next day the news is all about the family that would not surrender their guns and were found to be terrorists. The children? Collateral damage.
Per the statistics, there are about 50 million, probably less, gun owners in the US. That is less than 16% of the population. You are a minority.
Do I side with the NRA? No. Do I side with the government? No. BUT… and this is the big BUT…your only chance of keeping your guns and freedom is to clean house in Washington NOW not when the goons are at your door. The time to stop surveillance was long ago when it started. The time to stop hand pats and X-rays at airports, and soon the mall near you, was when it started. Now both are intrenched and almost impossible to change without changing Washington.
This is NOT the world the patriots lived in during the American Revolution. The British had no drones that could take you out while the pilot sips coffee in some safe, air conditioned office thousands of miles away. They could not track where you went, what you owned, where you bought it, where you work and what you ate at T.G.I.Fridays last night if you used plastic to pay for it. Now they can. You have no idea how many tentacles Big Brother has in your life, and the lives of your wife and kids.
No, words will change nothing. Actually using your democratic rights to vote in the right people cold, but too many vote with their feelings and not with their brains. Bread and Circuses. You are being decimated.
BTW: the term ‘decimated’ comes from the Romans. “… A unit selected for punishment by decimation was divided into groups of ten; each group drew lots, and the soldier on whom the lot fell was executed by his nine comrades, often by stoning or clubbing …”
Do you think that there are not enough people out there in the cities that would not hesitate to ‘decimate’ you and/or your family?
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26th January 2013 at 3:23 am
Mark says:
The government is not going to send Good Ole Boys in garb to take away your guns.
They’ll fine you and make it a federal offense to posses weapons. Some states will deem that Federal offense enough to take away your voting rights. Unless of course, your an anomaly and can prove your in good standing with the Democratic Party.
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26th January 2013 at 5:08 am
John A says:
Regarding Sen. Feinstein’s gun control bill (even if it becomes law):
Not all weapons will be illegal per this proposed law. This legislation is NOT law yet! There is good news and there is not so good news. An article for your perusal:
FEINSTEIN GUN CONTROL BILL TO EXEMPT GOVERNMENT OFFICALS
8:06 AM, Jan 25, 2013 • By Daniel Halper
Not everyone will have to abide by Senator Dianne Feinstein’s gun control bill. If the proposed legislation becomes law, government officials and others will be exempt.
“Mrs. Feinstein’s measure would exempt more than 2,200 types of hunting and sporting rifles; guns manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or slide action; and weapons used by government officials, law enforcement and retired law enforcement personnel,” the Washington Times reports.
The Huffington Post confirms these exemptions, and adds that guns owned prior to the legislation becoming law will be permissible, too. “[T]he bill includes a number of exemptions: It exempts more than 2,200 hunting and sporting weapons; any gun manually operated by a bolt, pump, lever or slide action; any weapons used by government officials and law enforcement; and any weapons legally owned as of the date of the bill’s enactment.”
The bill’s measures include stopping “the sale, manufacture and importation of 158 specifically named military-style firearms and ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. It would also ban an additional group of assault weapons that accept detachable ammunition magazines and have at least one military characteristic,” according to the Huffington Post.
The left-leaning website adds: “Other new provisions include requiring background checks on all future transfers of assault weapons covered under the bill and eliminating the 10-year sunset that allowed the original ban to expire.”
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/feinstein-gun-control-bill-exempt-government-officials_697732.html
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26th January 2013 at 6:16 am
flash says:
Take a look at this gang of state sponsored effeminate fat fucks and tell me these dickless donut dollies ain’t just itchin’ to prove the’ve got a pair by shooting the first available target….be it a homeless guy living in a box or a law -abiding gun owner minding their own business.
Jonesboro police practice for school shooter
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/274281/40/Jonesboro-police-practice-for-school-shooter
Cops really are too stupid to be trusted with guns..
Man Dies in Police Raid on Wrong House
By Vicki Brown
L E B A N O N, Tenn.
A 61-year-old man was shot to death by
police while his wife was handcuffed in another room during a drug
raid on the wrong house.
Police admitted their mistake, saying faulty information from a drug informant contributed to the death of John Adams Wednesday night. They intended to raid the home next door.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95475&page=1
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26th January 2013 at 8:46 am
Bostonbob says:
Makati 1,
This is the second time that you have cited the 16% figure, I cry bullshit. It is higher than that even in Massachsetts. I have seen figures around 45% nationally. This does not include private sales and illegal guns. Drones heavey weaponry and well trained solders have done a fabulous job against a buch of sand fleas in bathrobes and flip flops who wipe there asses with rocks. True story on the rock thing. Yes there will always be a number of compliant folks who will do as you say, but when the shit really hits the fan many in the military/Homeland Security et. al. will be deserting to protect ther own family. This will not end well.
Thank you,
Bob.
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26th January 2013 at 8:57 am
flash says:
gun ownership 36 % * add at least 5% for unknown…
http://www.statisticbrain.com/gun-ownership-statistics-demographics/
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26th January 2013 at 10:07 am
flash says:
and then there’s this.. i.e. a shitload of guns..
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26th January 2013 at 10:08 am
Administrator says:
I bet the Chinese peasants wish they had a few more guns.
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26th January 2013 at 10:12 am
flash says:
tension mounts…nerves frayed … boundaries broached…tolerance tested..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb1WHgFUOmI
http://getmessmerized.wordpress.com/2013/01/22/from-rabble-such-as-this-rise-a-people-whom-defy-kings/
From Rabble Such As This, Rise a People Whom Defy Kings.
By jcmessmer January 22, 2013
What purpose do any of our freedoms serve if we have no means to protect them? Are we not only as strong as our own weakest link? Surely the people are strong when united, but when the fist of angered men crashes down with might and power, what is our powerless response? Thomas Jefferson was an extraordinarily insightful man as a founding father, and is attributed to the saying “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have.”
It is important to remember the fallacy of this statement, however. The government of the United States does not grant rights, and it does not allocate freedom. Rather, the Constitution of the United States expressly states that we have these rights, and that the government is not to infringe upon them.
We are in the midst of a time when all this is called into question. Not only is the validity of our sanctified freedoms under fire, but our resilience as a culture. Surely one can watch from afar in the land of tea and crumpets calling us ‘cowboys’ and claiming out guns will be our downfall. In truth, however, clinging to our guns is the only thing that has saved this nation from absolute dissolution. To believe that war has become less popular in the modern era because we have grown too fond of it is a statement of profound ignorance. As we sit here today, our brothers and sisters are arming themselves. Civil War exists the same as cannibalism exists. It is so far fetched that the American people could stomach a revolution again. In this same notion, however, we could never stomach slavery. Thus, it is undeniable that our nation will come to blows. To claim we would rather die than to eat fellow man as a means of survival is absurd. Our fear of leaving the happy bubble we live in is influencing our thought process, but when starvation and deprivation drag you within an inch of death itself, all of life come into question. You begin to see the flaws in every member of your party. Who is the weakest? Who could you do without? Who has angered you? Who shall be the one you choose?
Revolution is the same way. Those who are most likely to fight for the cause are those who have the most to lose. It is the same, however, that these individuals have the most to gain.
The Cold War has begun. Ammunition cannot be found anywhere you go. First it was the common calibers, 9mm, 45ACP, 40S&W, .223/5.56, and 7.62×39. Those who have already been patiently awaiting the acids and infestations of our nation to eat away at our innards see the early signs, and began rapid preparations. Then it spread like wildfire. Pistol grip rifles, gone. AR-15′s, gone. AK-47′s, gone. Magazines, equipment, parts, barrels, everything…gone.
It used to be just another ammo and gun rush. Same as the election, same as the Aurora shooting, same as always. Now its something worse. Assault Weapons Bans are passing, Congressmen and State legislators are proposing confiscation, and weapons are being outlawed. Lines are being drawn, families are moving to states with fortitude, and homesteads are becoming the talk of the town. People are going off the grid with their firearms, ammo, and equipment. Mobilization from public water, electric, and gas systems are moving to independent, clean, alternate energies.
This is not a society preparing for a doomsday. We are not preparing for an economic spike where we may have to defend our homes. It isn’t just a matter of getting ammunition while it is cheap, it is about getting what you can when it is available, regardless the price. Our nation is preparing for war. Like our forefathers at Lexington and Concord, stockpiles of weapons are emerging and springing up. The day the regulars march on our homes to reduce the patriots will be a day we all dread.
The numbers are amounting, supplies are dwindling, and every party or social gathering has the wind down period where men and their sons, neighbors, fathers, friends, and co-workers gather on the dark porches of the homes, smoking their pipes and cigars, sipping their whiskey as they discuss the future of their families.
Law Enforcement are drawing their lines in the sand, taking their stand against tyranny or rebellion. Soldiers wait for their enlistments to run out, some to renew for a bonus, others for reasons their own. Groups of men gather to practice battle drills, discuss fallout locations, procedures, rosters, and planning for the worst case scenarios, scenarios that are more and more becoming a great possibility.
It wasn’t much different than this that our nation was born. I don’t even think it was planned, or synchronized by like minded persons or groups. Their were no crazies, and few groups that took this as an opportunity to recruit. It simply happened. We really did just wake up one day to find our freedoms under fire. And now, now we are seeing what a nation becomes when its government declares war on the freedoms of its citizenry. The bars, pubs, taverns, and back rooms are filled with soft spoken revolutionaries. The whispers of men prepared to take upon themselves their sword and shield, to mount and ride for the cause of liberty, are growing in the darkness.
All that is required for the success of evil is for good men to do nothing. Do not be mislead. The good men are not doing nothing. The good men are biding their time, waiting for what comes next. Tyranny will not pull through, and the triumph of freedom will always be there for those who are vigilant, patient, and prepared.
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26th January 2013 at 10:19 am
Makati1 says:
300,000,000 guns does NOT mean there are 300 million gun owners. Just the opposite, ask your gun totin’ buddies how many of those toys they own? Some have more than one and many have more than two, many many more. So, yes, the 16% is accurate. (50 million families) And of those 16% only a few will actually use them like you pretend they will. They will hand them over at the first threat to their families. And there WILL be threats and you WILL see those drones in the skies in the near future. 30,000 have been ordered. That’s one for every 100 square miles of inhabited land. 100,000 pilots. No problem! All TSA employees.
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26th January 2013 at 10:59 am
KaD says:
Makati1: Vote in ‘the right people’? The right people are NEVER the ones running big ticket, and there’s a reason for that.
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26th January 2013 at 11:11 am
KaD says:
Thought TBP should see this: Project Amendment 28 to follow Switzerland’s lead, mandate gun ownership among all able bodied citizens
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038837_Project_Amendment_28_gun_ownership_citizens.html#ixzz2JC1rkjkm
America’s founders envisioned a similar ‘gun culture’ in the U.S.
What this illustrates, of course, is that guns are not the problem, and that they may actually be the solution. By properly training citizens to use firearms, and then arming them with weapons capable of promoting peace and defending against violence and terrorism, a nation can stand strong and unified. To some, this idea might sound crazy, but it is precisely what the founders envisioned when they penned the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution with specific provisions for a well regulated militia.
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26th January 2013 at 11:13 am
IndenturedServant says:
Makati said:
“Those of you with ‘stiff backbones and brass balls’ are probably single or have no family you love. Words are worthless if your family is at risk and you disobey the government goons at your door. They will just take you ALL out. Do you think the government cannot find ‘Americans’ to do just that? Bust down your door and kill your family if they are ordered to? Hitler didn’t have any problems finding thousands of such men in a small country like Germany and he didn’t have drugged out killers fighting in his cities. We do and many of them would sign up if the benes were big enough. But then, a drone flown from (pick your country) would do it easily like we do to the Afghans or Iraqis. Missile into your bedroom window. Next day the news is all about the family that would not surrender their guns and were found to be terrorists. The children? Collateral damage.”
Makati, do you even have a dog in the hunt here? As understand it, rather than attempt to be part of the solution, you instead chose to give up your patriotism AND your rights and move to the Philippines. If I am correct in that then fuck you! You have no right to judge or even question what I or others here might do when/if the goons show up at our our doors! Part of your diatribe included the words “We do”. Who the fuck is we? You mean Americans do? You mean Americans who will not be depending on you because you already bailed?
I typically have a low opinion of ex-pats but it is your right to be one and I support that right but once the deal is done, your opinions and ideas are no longer relevant to the discussion IMO. Enjoy your life as an ex-pat. I sincerely hope you are never singled out as a rich gringo and robbed, killed or held hostage for your money or possessions. My sister-in-law was born and raised in the Philippines. She visits there every year. According to her, ex-pats are tolerated because of their money. Pray that it never runs out.
Hitler didn’t have any problems finding thousands of men to go door to door in a DISARMED country. That is not the case here……yet. I personally would rather be killed in the first wave than give up my rights if it comes to that. You claim only 16% of the population here owns guns. I sincerely hope the govt drones believe that shit. That may be true in places like NY, IL, DC etc but I can guarantee it is not true everywhere else. I’d bet 16% have concealed carry permits.
The govt has absolutely no REAL idea how many guns are out there. Millions of guns have been handed down through families since before the Revolution. Hundreds of millions of guns exist in private hands and when these are handed down, they are typically given to one or more family members who have an interest in guns thereby increasing the number of individuals and households with guns. That is not tracked…….yet. I doubt that it ever will be. All they have is “best guess” and we know how accurate the govt is in everything they do.
I’m not trying to be a dick Makati but you have already given up……..by choice. It just rubs me the wrong way when ex-pats expound on things “back home” as if it fucking matters to them. If it mattered to them, their actions would bear it out.
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26th January 2013 at 12:34 pm
John A says:
THE RESISTANCE BEGINS: NEW YORK GUN OWNERS REFUSE TO REGISTER
“Largest Act of Civil Disobedience in State History”
(Prison Planet) – With emotions running high in the aftermath of the Newtown Sandy Hook shooting, politicians on the State and Federal level have begun introducing legislative actions to curtail access to firearms protected by the Second Amendment. In Missouri, parents may soon be forced to register firearms with their child’s school under threat of criminal penalties. In Massachusetts, another proposal would require storage of semi-automatic rifles at government approved storage depots. And, in the State of New York, congressional representatives have already passed legislation that requires registration of every semi-automatic rifle and reduces maximum magazine capacity to 7 rounds of ammunition, and Governor Cuomo has floated the idea of gun confiscation.
Now, in what is sure to be a growing trend across the entire country, New York gun owners are organizing a resistance against what many believe to be the most, “brazen infringement on the right to keep and bear arms anywhere in the nation,” according toThe New American:
Preparations are already being made for mass resistance.
“I’ve heard from hundreds of people that they’re prepared to defy the law, and that number will be magnified by the thousands, by the tens of thousands, when the registration deadline comes,’’ said President Brian Olesen with American Shooters Supply, among the biggest gun dealers in the state, in an interview with the New York Post.
Even government officials admit that forcing New Yorkers to register their guns will be a tough sell, and they are apparently aware that massive non-compliance will be the order of the day. “Many of these assault-rifle owners aren’t going to register; we realize that,’’ a source in the Cuomo administration told the Post, adding that officials expect “widespread violations” of the new statute.
Threats of imprisoning gun owners for up to a year and confiscating their weapons are already being issued by governor’s office, headed by a rabid anti-Second Amendment extremist who suggested before the bill passed that “confiscation” of all semi-automatic rifles was being considered. If tens or even hundreds of thousands of otherwise law-abiding citizens refuse to comply, however, analysts say New York would either have to start raising taxes and building a lot more prisons, or give up on the scheme that experts say will do nothing to reduce violence and that lawmakers say is aimed at eventual confiscation.
Activists involved in the state-wide boycott against the unconstitutional statute who spoke to the Post almost taunted authorities, saying gun owners would essentially dare authorities to “come and take it away.”
According to the paper, leaders of some of the state’s hundreds of gun clubs, dealers, and non-profit organizations, citing the New York Constitution’s guarantee that gun rights “cannot be infringed,” are currently involved in organizing the resistance. Among the primary concerns is that, with registration, authorities would know where to go for confiscation, an idea already proposed openly by Governor Cuomo himself.
“They’re saying, ‘F— the governor! F— Cuomo! We’re not going to register our guns,’ and I think they’re serious. People are not going to do it. People are going to resist,” explained State Rifle and Pistol Association President Tom King, who also serves on the National Rifle Association board of directors. “They’re taking one of our guaranteed civil rights, and they’re taking it away.”
Opponents of the right to bear arms, take heed. The American people know what you’re up to and they will not stand for it.
The resistance has begun.
http://www.teaparty.org/the-resistance-begins-new-york-gun-owners-refuse-to-register-largest-act-of-civil-disobedience-in-state-history-19245/
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26th January 2013 at 1:03 pm
Muck About says:
It’s easy for me. Just remember Charlton Heston’s memorable words.
They can take my weapons out of my cold dead hands. Period.
Fuck Diane Fineswine and the garbage truck she rode in on.
MA
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26th January 2013 at 5:24 pm
Dave dirtscratcher says:
Decisions, decisions………
No, not weather to submit to a gun grab or not; but, how many thousands of rounds per gun type to stockpile.
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26th January 2013 at 5:45 pm
AKAnon says:
Just to play devil’s advocate (and to throw Makati a bone): Hypothetically speaking, suppose someone does own (currently legal) firearms that are later “banned” and marked for confiscation. Suppose TPTB, through whatever means, mounts an effort to search for and confiscate such firearms not registered and/or surrendered. Suppose said patriotic gun owner refuses to surrender those arms, and is martyred in the process. What happens to his heirs? Does life insurance pay off? Is his family further harassed and victimized by TPTB? A little food for thought. Conviction to principles is great, but are you willing to put your family through the wringer? Not passing judgement either way.
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26th January 2013 at 6:40 pm
KaD says:
Napari: Here’s what Gandi had to say-
Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.” – Mohandas Gandhi, an Autobiography, page 446.
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26th January 2013 at 9:00 pm
SSS says:
“Suppose said patriotic gun owner refuses to surrender those arms, and is martyred in the process. What happens to his heirs? Does life insurance pay off? Is his family further harassed and victimized by TPTB? A little food for thought. Conviction to principles is great, but are you willing to put your family through the wringer? Not passing judgement either way.”
—-AKAnon
Said SMART gun owner willing to defy federal gun confiscation laws would also be legally broke. He/she would own NOTHING. Ever heard of “lawyering up?” It’s cheap and inexpensive.
And who owns life insurance nowadays? Dumbasses. I haven’t had a life insurance policy for 25 fucking years, and I guarantee my wife and children will be just fine when I die.
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26th January 2013 at 10:30 pm
crazyivan says:
This is the kind of fork in the road that trys men’s souls.
The joices offer to define who a man is and how he, and his, will live.
It is an engineered fork in the road.
divide and conquer
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26th January 2013 at 11:39 pm
AKAnon says:
OK, SSS, please enlighten me. Should only renters defy the Feds? Folks w/ zero assets? If so, this limits the resistance substantially. Also, regardless of insurance payouts and the ability (or not) of the Feds to confiscate any assets, will the children suffer persecution for the acts of their father? Maybe I need a lesson on “lawyering up”. My disgust for the legal profession in general may be a liability here.
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26th January 2013 at 12:00 am
napari says:
Defending against a murderer, home invader, rapist, no problem! Some one or something crosses the line in our territory we all do what we need to in order to protect..
What I’m talking about is the difference between an individual(s) with intent to harm and a well organized sophisticated military.
Case in point Egypts military is getting ready at the request of Morsi to put down the protests. One needs to ask what the protests have to confront the military? Over in Egypt I think its like having a pea shooter compared to a cannon and a lot of brave people are going to perish.
Here in USA the general populace is much better armed but the military still has a big upper hand. In addition not all military personnel agree with our politicians. The military I think would be VERY cautious shooting unarmed citizens. I’d like to see someone of influence organize a 10 million man peaceful march. The biggest problem we have is disorganization and were all a bunch of powerless individuals instead of a group unified all saying no.
Hey maybe I’m just living in wishful thinking land…
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26th January 2013 at 7:25 am
SSS says:
AKAnon says:
“OK, SSS, please enlighten me. Should only renters defy the Feds? Folks w/ zero assets? If so, this limits the resistance substantially. Also, regardless of insurance payouts and the ability (or not) of the Feds to confiscate any assets, will the children suffer persecution for the acts of their father? Maybe I need a lesson on “lawyering up”. My disgust for the legal profession in general may be a liability here.”
My wording was imprecise. I should have said “lawyering up on your assets and estate.” Use trusts (revocable and irrevocable). Changing the title on your house. Reexamine your will. Stuff that would require the advice and assistance of a lawyer since the laws vary by state.
Also, use the money saved by NOT having to pay insurance premiums to …… invest in interest-paying preferred stocks or common stock with a sound track record of paying dividends (reinvest the dividends in more shares of stock) or buy some precious metals such as silver.
Shit like that.
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26th January 2013 at 11:06 am
Eddie says:
It’s always best to stay under the radar and avoid direct confrontation with the goverment. If you are braced, I would comply before I made myself into a martyr.
Take Frenchie’s advice and plant your best in a jerry can in the ground somewhere if it comes to that.
Remember that the people at Waco and Ruby Ridge made a conscious decison to make an armed resistance. This is seldom a good idea, no matter how good it might make you feel.
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26th January 2013 at 11:14 am
Outtahere says:
Comply with an illegal order? That’s not very Texan of you Eddie. If the debacle at Mt. Carmel were to happen today I’d venture a guess that hundreds of people would rush to help the idiots that got themselves into that mess in the first place. Attitudes since then toward the govt. have changed radically and perhaps that event even helped changes many of those attitudes.
Besides, why bury anything? What the hell are you going to do with it later? The time to use whatever you have is prior to them getting to your doorstep. Burying your arms is just another act of capitulation and admitting defeat.
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26th January 2013 at 3:20 pm
AKAnon says:
SSS-Thanks. That is good advice.
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26th January 2013 at 4:30 pm
crazyivan says:
I nominate AWD’s upthread green faced bleeding gums image of DF a first rate fail.
The stupid fuck actually made her look better than harry p’s picture.
Sometimes I have to just wonder what the fuck it is that keeps me coming back.
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26th January 2013 at 4:59 pm
Eddie says:
outahere
Direct confrontation is a recipe for disaster. Guaranteed to get you and whatever innocents are around you killed. If we have to fight the government, I intend to fight a different kind of action than that.
Does that make me less brave? I don’t think so. To each his own.
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26th January 2013 at 5:04 pm
napari says:
Direct confrontation is a recipe for disaster. Guaranteed to get you and whatever innocents are around you killed. If we have to fight the government, I intend to fight a different kind of action than that.
Does that make me less brave? I don’t think so. To each his own.
The CONTEXT eddie is talking about is fighting a government gone wild backed by the most sophisticated military in the world.
eddie isnt talking about some local hoodlum invading your home.
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26th January 2013 at 5:27 pm
Novista says:
Makati1 says:
Those of you with ‘stiff backbones and brass balls’ are probably single or have no family you love.
gun totin’ buddies
only a few will actually use them like you pretend they will
Golly gosh, us pretenders with brass balls sure do thank you for the advice. And contempt.
Meanwhile …
IndenturedServant
I typically have a low opinion of ex-pats
when ex-pats expound on things “back home” as if it fucking matters to them. If it mattered to them, their actions would bear it out.
Yeah, whatever.
As for me, my first trip out of the country (Canada, before, doesn’t count) to Saudi Arabia was an awakening — how I could use my career to accomplish world travel. In that two years, also included were Lebanon, Turkey, Bulgaria, Jugoslavia, Austria, Greece, and U.K.
Back stateside, we ended up in Providence, RI, nowhere I’d ever call home. But we got to see lots of New England, and right to the top of Maine.
One day, I got a call out of the blue from consultants in California, offering me a job in American Samoa. Yay. Several trips to Western Samoa. Two years later, going on to a job in Australia, we also saw a bit of Fiji. I’d sent several letters out and got a firm offer, then applied for a work visa. The gov gifted me permanent residency, preferred occupation.
We certainly weren’t getting out of Dodge then. After five years of a lot of countries, we decided to settle down enough to get our boys through what then was a good school system.
Along the way, we decided to sell the house I’d bought in ’62 in Cincinnati. Since I couldn’t get away due to work, Barbara went back to complete the details. On her return, her first words were, “I’m glad to be _home_. Between family and friends back ~home~ she was underimpresssed. So it goes.
Well, I never considered myself an ex-pat; rather, an American who lives in another country. YMMV.
And yeah, I’ve been back half a dozen times, Florida, Ohio, Kentucky. Even up to Montreal. And one of the trips via Japan, and Vancouver on return.
When Australia had its tainted referendum for a republic, I don’t know what I would have done had it succeeded. Republic yes, controlled by the fucking politicians? not so much.
At any rate, I still am an American, still on the U.S. passport.
Actions? About 16 months ago, an old friend thanked me for my military service?! But it got me thinking, about the oath of enlistment, and so I joined Oath Keepers. There’s quite a good activity in my home state of Florida. Symbolic or pointless, some might say. Just like posting on blogs or publishing non-fiction on Amazon, I guess.
Well, maybe people do not know that the Great Depression sailed around the world and hit Australia after other countries on the way. And when the collapse comes this next time, we’ll be in deep shit just like there.
Maybe worse because the government here is a lapdog for the U.S. Agenda 21 and ecothugs are keen to make a world order of their own. Seeing it coming, I jumped through the hoops of gun ownership here. I have two sons here with jobs and relationships, none live close. Nothing to keep me from coming back to the U.S., even if it means by way of Canada or another indirect entry … if the time is right.
As far as I am concerned, I was born an American and will die one, even if it ain’t there any more.
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26th January 2013 at 7:52 pm
John A says:
There is no gun control law (as of yet) that has been passed by our elected officials inside the beltway. It ain’t law yet, folks. Call or fax any/all state/federal political honchos that will listen AND support the pro-gun lobby of your choice with your VOICE and your WALLET. There’s not a swinging dick or Sheila in the senate that hasn’t figured out that they will be voted out of office in the future if they side with Obama and unconstitutional gun control. Follow a peaceful solution to this madness until you (we) have NO other choice. A fist fight is always the last option.
“I was born an American and will die one, even if it ain’t there any more.” Fucking A, Novista. Well said.
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26th January 2013 at 8:39 pm
KaD says:
The DHS (Department of Hitlerian Security) bid for 7000 FULL automatic assault rifles:
Keep in mind that President Obama is on the record saying, “AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals; that they belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our cities.” But it seems he really means they don’t belong on the streets of our cities unless they are in the hands of homeland security enforcers, in which case they can be FULL-AUTO assault weapons.
The juiciest part of this bid is the use of the phrase “Personal Defense Weapons” to describe the full-auto AR-15s being purchased by DHS.
Apparently, when YOU hold an AR-15, it’s an “assault rifle.” But magically, if you hand that same rifle to an armed government homeland security enforcer, it instantly transforms itself into a “personal defense weapon.”
Pay attention to the word games (which are really mind games) you’re being subjected to:
An AR-15 in the hands of a citizen is an “assault rifle.”
But an AR-15 in the hands of a DHS agent is a “Personal Defense Weapon.”
A full-auto-capable rifle in the hands of a citizen is called a “machine gun.”
A full-auto-capable rifle in the hands of a DHS agent is called a “select-fire rifle.”
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038844_DHS_assault_weapons_documents.html
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26th January 2013 at 10:24 pm
Thinker says:
This is how they’d prefer we “defend” ourselves…
Florida women frighten off intruder by chanting ‘Jesus’
If you ask the 15 women inside Jacquie Hagler’s house what happened, they’ll tell you it’s simple: Jesus scared a would be thief out of the Florida woman’s home.
At first, those gathered at Hagler’s house for a jewelry party thought the intruder was simply part of an elaborate gag, using a “water gun” to tease the Florida women.
“It’s only a water gun,” one attendee reportedly said, while brushing away the firearm allegedly brandished by Derick Lee, who entered the home wearing a ski mask and bandana across his face.
Witnesses say Lee then held the gun to the woman’s head and announced, “I’m not joking, I’m going to shoot someone, give me your money.” He even showed the women some of the bullets loaded into his gun before they could be convinced the robbery attempt was real.
But what Lee didn’t know was that he was outgunned by the jewelry party attendees – at least spiritually speaking.
“When I realized what was going on, I stood up and said, ‘In the name of Jesus, get out of my house now,’” Hagler told WJXT-TV. And he said, ‘I’m going to shoot someone.’ And I said it again, real boldly,” Hagler continued. “Everybody started chanting, ‘Jesus, Jesus, Jesus,’ and he did a quick scan of the room, and ran out the door as fast as he could go.”
Lee, 24, was arrested Friday night at his home and identified by several of the jewelry party attendees during a police photo lineup. He’s currently being held on a $200,000 bond.
I believe he saw angels,” Hagler said in a separate interview with the Christian Post. “I think he saw who was on our side, and he just turned around. The look on his face was just, like, astonishment. He was totally captivated by whatever he saw. He just turned around and ran out the door.”
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Hell, yes, the guy ran from what he saw — 15 screaming bitties would do that to anyone!
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26th January 2013 at 10:51 pm
Outtahere says:
Eddie
I wasn’t questioning or impugning your or anyone else’s bravery. My point is that there are times to act before it is too late, direct or indirect confrontation. To date, indirect confrontation is not working and there is NO political solution to the problems we are facing. We can no longer vote for a solution; way too late for that. I’m not looking to become a martyr, but I’m certainly not going to be a serf to a tyrannical government.
As in all battles, there is a turning point where one side makes a strategic move that can make the difference between victory and defeat. We have almost reached that point in our battle for our freedom and an America that provides opportunity to all, not just the elite or privileged. If decisive action in the form of meaningful resistance, including civil disobedience, is not undertaken very soon then the battle will be lost.
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26th January 2013 at 11:22 pm
fool on the hill says:
“There is a tide in the affairs of men which taken at the flood leads on to victory.
Omitted, all the journeys of their lives are bound in shallows and misery.”
Billy the Bard
I fear we are about to be on such a full sea.
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26th January 2013 at 1:17 am