GLOBAL WARMING? MANY REPUTABLE SCIENTISTS SAY NO.

Up front, I am a staunch Warmer skeptic.  What happened to the 1-2 mile thick sheet of ice which covered half of North America during the Ice Age, which ended 10,000 years ago?  It got warmer, and the ice melted, of course.  Up to 2 MILES THICK OF ICE COVERED MILLIONS OF SQUARE MILES OF LAND, AND IT DISAPPEARED, FOLKS.  What happened to the Medieval Warm Period, which lasted for about 400 years, 800-1200 AD, and grapes were grown on the now frigid, Arctic-like coast of the province of Labrador in Canada?  It got colder, and the settlements were abandoned, of course.

Did man have anything to do with those dramatic climate change examples?  Absolutely not.  Yet now, we are supposed to believe that MAN is causing, largely through carbon dioxide emissions of his activities in the past 150 years, the temperature of the Earth to warm.  A scant 40 years ago, similar scientists were warning the planet was heading towards a mini-Ice Age.

I don’t buy the Warmer hysteria, which is exactly what it is, and I am not alone in my skepticism.  Read on.

A List of Quotations from Scientists Who Reject Global Warming

“Because the greenhouse effect is temporary rather than permanent, predictions of significant global warming in the 21st century by UN-IPCC are not supported by the data.” (Hebrew University Professor Dr. Michael Beenstock, an honorary fellow with Institute for Economic Affairs who published a study challenging man-made global warming claims titled “Polynomial Cointegration Tests of the Anthropogenic Theory of Global Warming”)

“The UN-IPCC assessment process had a substantial element of schoolyard bullies, trying to insulate their shoddy science from outside scrutiny and attacks by skeptics…They will tolerate no dissent and seek to trample anyone who challenges them.” (Judith Curry, climatologist and chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology; co-editor of Encyclopedia of Atmospheric Sciences; co-author of Thermodynamics of Atmospheres and Oceans; author of over 140 scientific papers)

“There is no such thing as consensus science. If it’s a consensus, it isn’t science. If it’s science, it isn’t a consensus. Period. The greatest scientists in the world are great precisely because they broke with the consensus.” (Michael Crichton, biological anthropologist, “Science” writer and author)

“I am flabbergasted at what the promoters of global warming have so far gotten by with. These ideological fanatics have invented a belief complete with predictions that cannot be wrong: Rainstorms — global warming! Drought — global warming! Snow storms — global warming! Freezing winters — global warming! Warm winters — global warming! Hurricanes, tornados, tidal waves — global warming! If someone had told me thirty-years ago that a group of professionals of varied scientific disciplines would mob up together and pull this ruse off, I would have declared that person insane. Yet every day, to my chagrin and embarrassment, I see that it has happened.” (Henrik Kleist, physicist/mathematician)

“Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant. Every time you exhale, you exhale air that has 4 percent carbon dioxide. To say that that’s a pollutant just boggles my mind. What used to be science has turned into a cult.” (Will Happer, the Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics, Princeton University)

“In essence, the jig is up. The whole thing is a fraud. And even the fraudsters that fudged data are admitting to temperature history that they used to say didn’t happen… Perhaps what has doomed the Climategate fraudsters the most was their brazenness in fudging the data” (Dr. Christopher J. Kobus, Associate Professor of Mechanical Engineering at Oakland University, specializes in alternative energy, thermal transport phenomena, two-phase flow and fluid and thermal energy systems)

“We maintain there is no reason whatsoever to worry about man-made climate change, because there is no evidence whatsoever that such a thing is happening.” (Greek Earth scientists Antonis Christofides and Nikos Mamassis of the National Technical University of Athens’ Department of Water Resources and Environmental Engineering)

“Who are these scientists that present manufactured consensus as science? Who are these scientists who threaten the whole world with deadly forecasts in a desperate effort to force them to believe their postulate? Who are these scientists in the lead position of a proposition who refuse to show (much less accept or respect) qualified opposing views? They are the scientists behind manmade global warming — who represent a sharp u-turn back to the Dark Ages where dissenters were likely to find their heads in a bucket.” (Steven Hapberg; multi-disciplinary scientist)

“Global warming is the greatest and most successful pseudoscientific fraud I have seen in my long life.” (Physicist Hal Lewis, who resigned from the American Physical Society for its promotion of the “Global Warming Hoax”)

“The whole idea of anthropogenic global warming is completely unfounded. There appears to have been money gained by Michael Mann, Al Gore, and UN-IPCC’s Rajendra Pachauri as a consequence of this deception, so it’s fraud.” (South African astrophysicist Hilton Ratcliffe, a member of the Astronomical Society of Southern Africa and the Astronomical Society of the Pacific and a Fellow of the British Institute of Physics)

“It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of the earth. A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Further, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, and so on, which make up the climate.” (Bjarne Andresen, of the Niels Bohr Institute, at the University of Copenhagen; Christopher Essex, of the University of Western Ontario; and Ross McKitrick, of University of Guelph, in Canada)

“Fears about man-made global warming are unwarranted and are not based on good science. The earth’s climate is changing now, as it always has. There is no evidence that the changes differ in any qualitative way from those of the past.” (Will Happer, the Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics, Princeton University)
“Hundreds of billion dollars have been wasted with the attempt of imposing an Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) theory that is not supported by physical world evidences (physics)… AGW has been forcefully imposed by means of a barrage of scare stories and indoctrination that begins in the elementary schooltextbooks.” (Brazilian Geologist Geraldo Luís Lino, who authored the 2009 book “The Global Warming Fraud: How a Natural Phenomenon Was Converted into a False World Emergency”)

“The US Global Change Research Program’s (USGCRP) report is well out of step with the scientific literature, including the very literature it cites… Given the strength of the science on this subject, the USGCRP must have gone to some effort to mischaracterize it by 180 degrees. In areas where I have expertise, the flood example presented here is not unique in the report (e.g., Hurricane Sandy is mentioned 31 times)… A four-year effort by the nation’s top scientists should be expected to produce a public draft report of much higher quality than this. However, given the problematic…treatment of extremes in earlier UNIPCC and US government reports, I’d think that the science community would have its act together by now… ” (Environmental studies professor, Roger Pielke Jr.)

“There are clear cycles during which both temperature and salinity rise and fall. These cycles are related to solar activity…In my opinion and that of our institute, the problems connected to the current stage of warming are being exaggerated. What we are dealing with is not a global warming of the atmosphere or of the oceans.” (Biologist Pavel Makarevich of the Biological Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences)
“We’re not scientifically there yet. Despite what you may have heard in the media, there is nothing like a consensus of scientific opinion that this is a problem. Because there is natural variability in the weather, you cannot statistically know for another 150 years.” (UN-IPCC’s Tom Tripp, a member of the UN-IPCC since 2004 and listed as one of the lead authors and serves as the Director of Technical Services & Development for U.S. Magnesium)

“The energy mankind generates is so small compared to the natural overall energy budget that it simply cannot affect the climate…The planet’s climate is doing its own thing, but we cannot pinpoint significant trends in changes to it because it dates back millions of years while the study of it began only recently. We are children of the Sun; we simply lack data to draw the proper conclusions.” (Russian Scientist Dr. Anatoly Levitin, the head of geomagnetic variations laboratory at the Institute of Terrestrial Magnetism, Ionosphere, and Radiowave Propagation of the Russian Academy of Sciences.)

“The temperatures at the North and South Poles are lower now than they were in 1930. The Antarctic Peninsula, the finger of land pointing north towards Argentina (and the equator) has been getting warmer…The other 97 percent of Antarctic has been cooling since the mid-1960s.” (S. Fred Singer, Research Professor, George Mason University, and Dennis Avery, Senior Fellow, Hudson Institute and co-authors of “Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1500 Years”)

“I am ashamed of what climate science has become today. The science community is relying on an inadequate model to blame CO2 and innocent citizens for global warming in order to generate funding and to gain attention. If this is what science has become today, I, as a scientist, am ashamed… Science is too important for our society to be misused in the way it has been done within the Climate Science Community.” (Swedish Climatologist Dr. Hans Jelbring)

“I am an environmentalist — but I strongly disagree with Mr. Gore” (Chemistry Professor Dr. Mary Mumper, the chair of the Chemistry Department at Frostburg State University in Maryland, during her presentation titled “Anthropogenic Carbon Dioxide and Global Warming: the Skeptic’s View.”)

“Once again we have misleading climate change pronouncements being based on data errors, data errors detected by non-UN, non-IPCC, non-peer-reviewed external observers…This is exactly what happens when you base your arguments on ‘consensus science’ and not scientific fact.” (Professor Dr. Doug L. Hoffman, a mathematician, computer programmer, and engineer, who worked on environmental models and conducted research in molecular dynamics simulations. Hoffman co-authored the 2009 book, “The Resilient Earth,” described as “bringing a dose of reality to climate science and the global warming debate”)

“The new scientific report directly challenges the conclusions of the UNIPCC Summary that human emissions of carbon dioxide are causing dangerous and unprecedented warming.” – Quantitative Economist Kenneth A. Haapala, the past president of the Philosophical Society of Washington, the oldest scientific society in Washington (founded 1871), has reviewed hundreds of reports based on quantitative techniques. Haapala co-authored the report “Nature, Not Human Activity, Rules the Climate.”)

“Observations are ambiguous, models are inadequate, and our understanding of the complex interactions of the climate system is incomplete.” (Judith Curry, climatologist and chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology; co-author of Thermodynamics of Atmospheres and Oceans and co-editor of Encyclopedia of Atmospheric Sciences and over 140 scientific papers)

“The case for climate fears is blown to smithereens…the whole theory should be destroyed and discarded and the UN conference should be closed.” (UK astrophysicist Piers Corbyn regarding Climategate and what should be done about AGW claims)

“Climatic changes have natural causes according many geological data. I am very glad to sign the U.S. Senate’s report of scientists against the theory of man-made global warming.” (Geology Professor Uberto Crescenti of the University G.d’Annunzio in Italy; past president of the Society of Italian Geologists)

“I am appalled at the state of discord in the field of climate science…There is no observational evidence that the addition of anthropogenic so-called greenhouse gas emissions have caused any temperature perturbations in the atmosphere.” (Atmospheric scientist Dr. George T. Wolff, former member of the EPA’s Science Advisory Board; served on a committee of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and authored more than 90 peer-reviewed studies)

“The sky is not burning, and to claim that it is amounts to journalistic malpractice…the press promotes the global warming alarmists and ignores or minimizes those of us who are skeptical. When it’s a little warmer than normal, the media yells. When it’s cooler, they say nothing.” (Chemist Mark L. Campbell, a professor of chemistry at the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, MD, who has published numerous studies in the Journal of the American Chemical Society on topics such as methane)

“The questions are scientific, but the UN answers are political. The global warming debate is hardly about science.” (Computer Modeler and Engineer Allen Simmons, who worked 12 years with NASA’s top climate scientists and wrote computer systems software for the world’s first weather satellites and aided in the development of computer systems for polar orbiting satellites. Simmons co-authored the new book that contends AGW is false, “The Resilient Earth” )

“Belief in climate models compares to ancient astrology.” (Award-winning Japanese Physicist Dr. Kanya Kusano, program director of the Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science and Technology who’s research “focuses on the immaturity of simulation work cited in support of the theory of anthropogenic climate change”)

“Please remain calm: The Earth will heal itself. Climate is beyond our power to control. Earth doesn’t care about governments or their legislation. You can’t find much actual global warming in present-day weather observations. Climate change is a matter of geologic time, something that the earth routinely does on its own without asking anyone’s permission or explaining itself.” (Nobel Prize-Winning Stanford University Physicist Dr. Robert B. Laughlin, who won the Nobel Prize for physics in 1998, and was formerly a research scientist at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.)

“The recent ‘panic’ to control GHG (greenhouse gas) emissions and billions of dollars being dedicated for the task has me deeply concerned that the US, and other countries are spending precious global funds to stop global warming, when it is primarily being driven by natural forcing mechanisms.” (Climatologist and Paloeclimate researcher Dr. Diane Douglas, who has authored or edited over 200 technical reports, specialized in the reconstruction of a variety of proxy data and has worked for the Department of Energy and conducted research for the Arizona State Office of Climatology to investigate the Little Ice Age)

“Temperature measurements show that the [climate model-predicted mid-troposphere] hot zone is non-existent. This is more than sufficient to invalidate global climate models and projections made with them!” (UNIPCC Scientist Steven M. Japar, a PhD atmospheric chemist who was part of Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (UNIPCC) Second (1995) and Third (2001) Assessment Reports, and has authored 83 peer-reviewed publications and in the areas of climate change, atmospheric chemistry, air pollutions and vehicle emissions)
“[Atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration] was exactly the same during the Middle Ages. It didn’t change at all. So there is something that was making the earth warm and cool that modelers still don’t really understand. The problem does not in fact exist, and society should not sacrifice for nothing.” (Will Happer, the Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics, Princeton University)

“The UN-IPCC reports, which have become bibles for bureaucrats and environmentalist fanatics, accuse modern civilization of being responsible for global warming, and repeatedly state that they reflect a `true consensus’ of the scientific community. This statement about consensus is totally false: The assessments, conclusions, and even the working method of the UN-IPCC numerous scientists have harshly criticized. A more accurate description of the current situation would not be consensus, but rather controversy. Science does not progress via a process of consensus, or voting. There was no `consensus’ for Copernicus’s idea, in his time, that the Earth orbited the Sun. Consensus is not needed in science; that is for politicians.” (Zbigniew Jaworowski; multidisciplinary scientist: M.D., Ph.O., and D.Sc.; professor at the Central Laboratory for Radiologi-cal Protection in Warsaw; has studied glacier ice samples from around the world, analyzing traces of heavy metals and radionuclides. Article in “21st Century Science & Technology”: “Ice Core Data Show No Carbon Dioxide Increase”)

“The cause of these global changes is fundamentally due to the Sun and its effect on the Earth as it moves about in its orbit. Not from man-made activities.” (Retired Award Winning NASA Atmospheric Scientist Dr. William W. Vaughan, recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Medal, a former Division Chief of NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center and author more than 100 scientific journal articles, monographs, and papers)

“Unfortunately, Climate Science has become Political Science…It is tragic that some perhaps well-meaning but politically motivated scientists who should know better have whipped up a global frenzy about a phenomena which is statistically questionable at best.” (Award-Winning Princeton University Physicist Dr. Robert H. Austin, who has published 170 scientific papers, was elected a member of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and is the current Chair of the U.S. Liaison Committee of the International Union of Pure and Applied Physics. Austin is the winner of the 2005 Edgar Lilienfeld Prize of the American Physical Society)

“If global cooling will come soon — scientists will lose trust. And it’s coming.” (Award-winning Japanese Geologist Dr. Shigenori Maruyama, a professor at the Tokyo Institute of Technology’s Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences who has authored more than 125 scientific publications, was decorated with the Medal of Honor with Purple Ribbon for a major contribution in the field of geology, specializes in the geological evidence of prehistoric climate change. He is far more fearful of a short span of “global cooling,” brought about by the natural processes of our solar system)

“Observe which side resorts to the most vociferous name-calling and you are likely to have identified the side with the weaker argument and they know it. I have never been vilified so for being skeptical of global warming claims.” (Materials and Research Physicist Dr. Charles R. Anderson, a former Department of Navy research physicistwho has published more than 25 scientific papers specializing in spectroscopy, microscopy, thermal analysis, mass spectroscopy, and surface chemistry.)

“The data which is used to date for making the conclusions and predictions on global warming are so rough and primitive, compared to what’s needed, and so unreliable that they are not even worth mentioning by respectful scientists.” (Award-winning Aerospace and Mechanical Engineer Dr. Gregory W. Moore, who has authored or co-authored more than 75 publications, book chapters, and reports, and authored the 2001 Version of the NASA Space Science Technology Plan which included a comprehensive approach to studying the Sun-Earth connection aspect of space-based research.)

“I appreciate the opportunity to add my name to those who disagree that global warming is man-made…Hansen embarrassed NASA by coming out with his claims of global warming.” (Retired senior NASA atmospheric scientist Dr. John S. Theon, a former supervisor of NASA’s James Hansen, and the former Chief of the Climate Processes Research Program at NASA Headquarters and former Chief of the Atmospheric Dynamics & Radiation Branch.)

“I am pleased to be considered a ‘denier’ in this cause if this puts me in the class with those who defied the prevailing ‘scientific consensus’ that the earth was flat and that the earth was the not the center of the universe.” (Retired U.S. Air Force (USAF) Meteorologist William “Bill” Lyons, of the USAF’s Global Weather Central at Strategic Air Command.)

“I do not find the supposed scientific consensus among my colleagues… Curiously, it is a feature of man-made global warming that every fact confirms it: rising temperatures or decreasing temperatures. No matter what the weather, some model of global warming offers a watertight explanation.” (Earth Scientist Dr. Javier Cuadros of the UK Natural History Museum, who specializes in Clay Mineralogy and has published more than 30 scientific papers)

“It is amazing to me, as a professional geologist, how many otherwise intelligent people have, as some may say, ‘drunk the Al Gore Kool-Aid’ concerning global climate change.” (Professional Geologist Earl F. Titcomb Jr., who has co-authored numerous analyses of geological and seismological hazards.)

“Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus [which] is the business of politics…What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus. And that’s what I’m doing by denying AGW.” (Atmospheric Scientist Timothy R. Minnich, who has more than 30 years experience in the design and management of a wide range of air quality investigations for industry and government, is a past member of the American Meteorological Society and specializes in issues like acid rain and ozone, and has authored or co-authored numerous technical publications and reports.)
“Based on the laws of physics, the effect on temperature of man’s contribution to atmospheric CO2 levels is minuscule and indiscernible from the natural variability caused in large part by changes in solar energy output.” (Atmospheric Scientist Robert L. Scotto, who has more than 30 years air quality consulting experience, served as a manager for an EPA Superfund contract and is co-founder of Minnich and Scotto, Inc., a full-service air quality consulting firm. He also is a past member of the American Meteorological Society (AMS). Scotto is a meteorologist who has authored or co-authored numerous technical publications and reports.)

“Whether the ice caps melt, or expand — whatever happens — the AGW (anthropogenic global warming) theorists claim it confirms their theory. A perfect example of a pseudo-science like astrology.” (Mathematical Physicist Dr. Frank Tipler, professor at Tulane University who has authored 58 peer-reviewed publications and five books.)

“My dear colleague [NASA’s James] Hansen, I believe, has finally gone off the deep end…The global warming ‘time bomb,’ ‘disastrous climate changes that spiral dynamically out of humanity’s control.’ These are the words of an apocalyptic prophet — not a rational scientist.” (Chemist Dr. Nicholas Drapela of the faculty of Oregon State University Chemistry Department)

“There is no credible evidence of the current exceptional global warming trumpeted by the UNIPCC…The UNIPCC is no longer behaving as an investigative scientific organization or pretending to be one…Their leaders betrayed the trust of the world community.” (Chemist Dr. Grant Miles, author of numerous scientific publications who was elected to a Fellowship of the Royal Institute of Chemistry, was a member of UK Atomic Energy Authority Chemical Separation Plant Committee.)

“Any reasonable scientific analysis must conclude the basic AGW theory wrong!!” (NASA Scientist Dr. Leonard Weinstein who worked 35 years at the NASA Langley Research Center and finished his career there as a Senior Research Scientist. Weinstein is presently a Senior Research Fellow at the National Institute of Aerospace)

“Climate prediction is complex, with many uncertainties. The AASC recognizes climate prediction is an extremely difficult undertaking. For time scales of a decade or more, understanding the empirical accuracy of such prediction — called ‘verification’ — is simply impossible, because we have to wait a decade or more to assess the accuracy of the forecasts.” (The American Association of State Climatologists.)

“Opponents of global warming are often snidely referred to as ‘climate change deniers’; precisely the opposite is true. Those who question the myth of global warming are passionate believers in climate change — it is the global warmers who deny that climate change is the norm.” (Philip Stott; author of books on climate; he resigned as a member of the Scientific Alliance because he deems it important to be academically independent of all organizations, industry, and green groups — so that he can comment independently of the pressure they place on members to agree with majority opinion)

“The orthodoxy that claims global warming is a fact must be challenged.” (Nigel Calder, scientist and former editor for the New Scientist)

“Global warming is the central tenet of this new belief system in much the same way that the Resurrection is the central tenet of Christianity. Al Gore has taken a role corresponding to that of St Paul in proselytizing the new faith…My skepticism about AGW arises from the fact that as a physicist who has worked in closely related areas, I know how poor the underlying science is. In effect the scientific method has been abandoned in this field.” (Atmospheric Physicist Dr. John Reid, who worked with Australia’s CSIRO’s “Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization Division of Oceanography” and worked in surface gravity waves (ocean waves) research)

“Those who call themselves ‘Green planet advocates’ should be arguing for a CO2- fertilized atmosphere, not a CO2-starved atmosphere…Diversity increases when the planet was warm AND had high CO2 atmospheric content…Al Gore’s personal behavior supports a green planet. His enormous energy use with his 4 homes and his bizjet, does indeed help make the planet greener. Kudos, Al for doing your part to save the planet.” (Engineer and aviation/space pioneer, Burt Rutan, who was named “100 most influential people in the world, 2004” by Time Magazine. Newsweek called him “the man responsible for more innovations in modern aviation than any living engineer.”)

“To the satisfaction of a judge in the High Court in London — that there were multiple serious errors not of mere interpretation or `theory’ but of fact in Al Gore’s mawkish sci-fi comedy-horror movie; that the errors all tended to invent problems where they did not exist or exaggerate them where they did; and that, therefore, the movie was political rather than scientific. The judge found in our favor, saying that `The Armageddon scenario that [Gore] depicts is not based on any scientific view. I wrote the scientific testimony that convinced Gore’s allies in the case that they should concede his film was seriously, serially inaccurate. Had they not made that concession, and had they not agreed to circulate 77 pages of corrective guidance, the judge said he would have banned the movie.” (Christopher Monckton, author, virulent critic of the UN-IPCC methods; has begged Albert Gore to debate “global warming”; Gore refuses)

“The most fundamental question is: ‘Can humans manipulate climate predictably?’ Or, more scientifically: ‘Will cutting carbon dioxide emissions at the margin produce a linear, predictable change in climate?’ The answer is ‘No.’ In so complex a coupled, non-linear, chaotic system as climate, not doing something at the margins is as unpredictable as doing something. This is the cautious science; the rest is dogma.” (Philip Stott; author of books on climate; he resigned as a member of the Scientific Alliance because he believed it important to be academically independent of all organizations, industry, and green groups — so that he could comment independently of the pressure they place on members to agree with majority opinion)

“Climate warming caused by man-made greenhouse gases is usually presented as a gloomy catastrophe that will induce the mass extinction of animals and plants, epidemics of contagious and parasitic diseases, droughts and floods, and even invasions of mutated insects resistant to insecticides. Melting glaciers are predicted to raise sea level by 3.67 meters; densely inhabited coastal areas, and great metropolises will flood. There will be mass migrations and a host of other social and environmental effects — always detrimental, never beneficial. That is the propaganda they spread.” (Zbigniew Jaworowski; multidisciplinary scientist: M.D., Ph.O., and D.Sc.; professor at the Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection in Warsaw; has studied glacier ice samples from around the world, analyzing traces of heavy metals and radionuclides. Article in “21st Century Science & Technology”: “Ice Core Data Show No Carbon Dioxide Increase”)

“What global warmers claim is climate science is truly dogma. There are no testable hypotheses. Instead there is consensus backing claims that are impossible to disprove. Any and all results support the theory. If the weather is warmer: `We told you so.’ If the weather is cooler: `Weather is not climate.’ More hurricanes: `Just as we said.’ African dust storms: `Ah yes, definitely proof of global warming.’ Excellent scientists refute the science they claim is behind `global warming’: `All the best scientists agree — the debate is over.’ And on and on this charade continues with no end in sight.” (Martin Hellig; multi-disciplinary scientist and mathematician)

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napari
napari

I thought by now everyone realized that “climate change” was just being used by obama to funnel money to his campaign contributors to the tune of billions!
You know…reward your friends and….

Llpoh
Llpoh

Eddie – just a bit of fun! SSS started it. BTW – it is a fine art to piss off everyone with one comment. When you can irritate the left, right, and middle with a single comment, you are starting to get the hang of things.

napari
napari

follow up….the POTUS has committed 6 billion dollars in the name of green energy to foriegn countries. I know how TBP people just luv to give away money we dont have to foriegn countries sooooooo just remember that the left wing pays close attention to what their supporters want and if its green energy their base wants they are willing to obey! If some or a lot or ALL of that 6 billion goes to democratic campaign contributors dont be surprised the betrayal is ultimately on the left wing nuts who are trying to save the planet!

majormocambo
majormocambo

Your lucky your not in my class, I’d have to fail you. You first quoted 92 cubic miles of ice melt per year. Then you said 92 cubic kilometers. Whatever, its confusing watching your math. For the record, the consensus is that there are approx 680000 cubic miles of ice. The assumed linear ice melt of 92 miles per year yields 7391 years. Better start preparing. The assumption of linear melt is a huge one. It is more than likely exponential. Your going to have to get through the math for dummies before I try to explain what exponential means, and the consequences of it. In any case, Greenland doesn’t matter. The Arctic does. What happens there will have a profound effect on everything human. Cheers and stay out of the sun, its affecting your mathematical capabilities.

llpoh
llpoh

Given SSS’s recent comment “With that, my arguments went up in smoke, so I manned up and said something rarely seen on this site”, I think the following is the only appropriate solution for Major and SSS:

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majormocambo
majormocambo

I’ll make the math easy, I’ll round to some nice easy numbers. Maybe your abacus doesn’t have the precision needed. Lets take 680000 / 50. Cross one zero off both numbers, you get 68000 / 5. 5 goes into 6 1 time with the remainder of 1. 5 goes into 18 3 times with a remainder of 3. 5 goes into 30 6 times with a remainder of 0. So the answer is 13600. I did it in my head. Maybe one of the segments in one of the digits on your geriatric big number calculator isn’t working giving you an erroneous answer. My writing and English is terrible, your correct on that.

AKAnon
AKAnon

The Major re-enters the fray. Got to give him credit for persistence, if not for common sense. So illuminate us all, why are you dividing 680,000 by 50? Does 50 have some significance to this thread, or was it just a nice, round number? Hey I’ve got one: 1,000, divided by 100, hmmm, carry the two, cross off one zero, and I get 10. Did that in my head and everything. What were we talking about again?

AKAnon
AKAnon

I don’t know from where majorm hails, but in my neck of the woods, I have a saying for folks like him: “It’s hard to find good help this far north”.

majormocambo
majormocambo

So you are dividing cubic kilometers by cubic miles. I wish Scotty would beam you up. One less dumb ass on earth. The reference to the writing and English was done on purpose and you took it hook, line, and sinker. Your one dumb ass. Have another beer.

majormocambo
majormocambo

@AKAnon
Sorry, I was a bit vague. Some people say 50 cubic miles are melting per year, and other people quote numbers up to 92 cubic miles per year. One thing they all say is that there are 680 thousand cubic miles of total ice. So if you take 680000 / 50 you get 13,600. If you take 680000 / 92, you get 7,391. Both numbers are significantly less than SSS’s final number. Pretty simple grade school math. My next lesson will be the exponential function. For homework, please view the following video:

majormocambo
majormocambo

Note to self:

“Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”

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