Submitted by Brandon Smith from Alt-Market
Gun Rights: Are There Any Peaceful Solutions Left?
Throughout history, citizen disarmament generally leads to one of two inevitable outcomes: Government tyranny and genocide, or, revolution and civil war. Anti-gun statists would, of course, argue that countries like the UK and Australia have not suffered such a result. My response would be – just give them time. You may believe that gun control efforts are part and parcel of a totalitarian agenda (as they usually are), or, you may believe that gun registration and confiscation are a natural extension of the government’s concern for our “safety and well-being”. Either way, the temptation of power that comes after a populace is made defenseless is almost always too great for any political entity to dismiss. One way or another, for one reason or another, they WILL take advantage of the fact that the people have no leverage to determine their own cultural future beyond a twisted system of law and governance which is, in the end, easily corrupted.
The unawake and the unaware among us will also argue that revolution or extreme dissent against the establishment is not practical or necessary, because the government “is made of regular people like us, who can be elected or removed at any time”.
This is the way a Republic is supposed to function, yes. However, the system we have today has strayed far from the methods of a Free Republic and towards the machinations of a single party system. Our government does NOT represent the common American anymore. It has become a centralized and Sovietized monstrosity. A seething hydra with two poisonous heads; one Democrat in name, one Republican in name. Both heads feed the same bottomless stomach; the predatory and cannibalistic pit of socialized oligarchy.
On the Republican side, we are offered Neo-Con sharks like George W. Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney, who argue for “conservative” policies such as limited government interference and reduced spending, all while introducing legislation which does the exact opposite. The recent passage of the “Safe Act” in New York with extensive Republican support proves that Republicans cannot be counted on to defend true conservative values.
The Democrats get candidates like John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama, who claim to be anti-war and against government abuse of civil liberties, and yet, these same “progressive and compassionate” politicians now froth at the mouth like rabid dogs sinking their teeth into the flesh of the citizenry, expanding on every tyrannical initiative the Republicans began, and are bombing more civilian targets in more foreign countries than anyone with a conscience should be able to bear.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; the government is not our buddy. It is not our ally or friend. It is not a “part of us”. It is now a separate and dangerous entity. A parasite feeding off the masses. It has become a clear threat to the freedoms of average Americans. It is time for the public to grow up, snap out of its childish delusions, and accept that there is no solace or justice to be found anymore in Washington D.C.
Once we understand this fact, a question then arises – What do we do about it? If we cannot redress our grievances through the election process because both parties favor the same authoritarian direction, and if our street protests are utterly ignored by the mainstream media and the establishment, and if civil suits do nothing but drag on for years with little to no benefit, then what is left for us? Is the way of the gun the only answer left for the American people at this crossroads?
I cannot deny that we are very close to such a conclusion. Anyone who does deny it is living in a candy coated fantasy land. However, there are still certain options that have not been exhausted, and we should utilize them if for no other reason than to maintain the moral high ground while the power elite continue to expose their own despotic innards.
State And County Nullification
The assertion of local authority in opposition to federal tyranny is already being applied across the country. Multiple states, counties, and municipalities are issuing declarations of defiance and passing legislation which nullifies any future federal incursions against 2nd Amendment protections. For instance, the Gilberton Borough Council in PA in conjunction with Police Chief Mark Kessler has recently adopted a resolution defending all 2nd Amendment rights within their municipal borders up to and including the denial of operations by federal officers:
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2013/02/03/first-molon-labe-town-in-america/
Approximately 283 county Sheriffs and multiple police officers have taken a hard stand, stating that they will either not aid federal enforcement officials with gun control related activities, or, that they will not allow such activities within their county, period:
http://cspoa.org/sheriffs-gun-rights/
This trend of dissent amongst law enforcement officials debunks the nihilistic view promoted by disinformation agents that “no one in law enforcement will have the guts to stand up to the government no matter how sour it turns”. It has also shaken the Obama Administration enough that the White House is struggling to counter it by wining and dining police unions and sheriffs departments in order to form their own “coalition of the willing”. Obama seems to believe that holding press conferences using children or police as background props will somehow earn him political capital in the battle for gun rights, but I have my doubts:
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-asks-police-help-pass-183056466.html
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/55716645-90/com-congress-doing-enforcement.html.csp
Multiple states have legislation on the table to nullify as well, and it would seem that the violent push by the establishment to extinguish the 2nd Amendment has actually sharply rekindled the public’s interest in States Rights and the 10th Amendment.
This does not mean, though, that we should rely on nullification alone. While the gun grabbers are stumbling into severe resistance at the national level, some representatives are attempting to supplant gun rights at the state level, including New York, California, Washington State, and Missouri. The goal here is obvious; counter states rights arguments by using anti-gun legislators to impose federal controls through the back door of state legislation.
They will claim that if we support states rights, then we have to abide by the decisions of regions like New York when they ban and confiscate firearms. It’s sad how gun grabbers lose track of reality. Neither federal authority, nor state authority, supplants the legal barriers of the Constitution itself, meaning, no federal or local authority has the right or power to remove our freedom of speech, our freedom of assembly, our freedom of privacy, OR our freedom to own firearms (including firearms of military utility). The Constitution and the Bill of Rights supersede all other legal and political entities (including treaties, as ruled by the Supreme Court). At least, that’s what the Founding Fathers intended when they established this nation. The point is, a state is well within its rights to defy the Federal Government if it is enacting unconstitutional abuses, and the people are well within their rights to defy a state when it does the same.
Economic Nullification
There is actually a fantastic economic opportunity to be had by states and counties that nullify gun control legislation. Many gun manufacturers and retail businesses are facing financial oblivion if the establishment has its way, and moving operations outside the U.S. is not necessarily practical for most of them (gun manufacturing is one of the last business models we still do better than the rest of the world). Municipalities could offer safe haven to these businesses, allowing them to continue producing firearms and high capacity magazines, fulfill expanding public demand, and create a surging cash flow into their area while at the same time giving the federal government the finger.
This strategy does not come without dangers, though. Many states and counties are addicted to federal funding, and some would go bankrupt without it. The obvious first response by the feds to protesting local governments will be to cut off the river of cash and starve them into subservience.
This brand of internal financial warfare can be countered by local governments by nullifying a few other unconstitutional regulations, including those issued by the EPA and the BLM. States and counties could easily disable federal land development restrictions and begin using resource development as a means to generate supplemental income. North Dakota is essentially doing this right now in the Bakken Oil Fields, becoming one of the few states in America that is actually creating legitimate high paying jobs (instead of part time wage slave jobs), and growing more prosperous every year.
This tactic is not limited to state governments either. Counties also have the ability, with the right officials involved, to regain control of their economic destinies anytime they want. All it takes is the courage to rock the establishment boat.
Refuse All Registration Schemes
National firearms registration and gun databases are almost always followed by full gun confiscation. The process is usually done in a standardized manner: First demand extensive registration and cataloging of gun owners. Second, ban more effective styles of weaponry, including semi-automatics and high capacity rifles (Let the sport hunters keep their bolt actions for a time, and lure them onto your side with the promise that they will get to keep their .270 or their 30-06). Then take all semi-auto handguns. Then, ban high powered magnum style bolt actions by labeling them “sniper rifles”. Then demand that the gun owners that still remain allow official “inspections” of their home by law enforcement to ensure that they are “storing their weapons properly”. Then, force them to move those weapons to a designated “warehouse or range”, locked away for any use other than recreational shooting. Then, when the public is thoroughly disconnected from their original right to bear arms, take everything that’s left.
Keep in mind that the federal government and certain state governments are acting as if they would like to skip ALL of the preliminary steps and go straight to full confiscation. I am not discounting that possibility. But, they may feign certain concessions in the near term in order to get the one thing they really want – full registration.
Registration must be the line in the sand for every single gun owner in this country, whether they own several semi-automatics, or one pump action shotgun. Once you give in to being registered, fingerprinted, photographed, and tracked wherever you decide to live like a convicted sexual predator, you have shown that you have no will or spirit. You have shown that you will submit to anything.
After a full registration has been enacted, every gun (and maybe every bullet) will be tracked. If confiscation is utilized, they know exactly what you have and what you should not have, and exactly where you are. Criminals will still acquire weapons illegally, as they always have. The only people who will suffer are law abiding citizens. It’s a recipe for dictatorship and nothing more.
Gun Barter Networks
The retail firearms and ammo markets are Sahara dry right now, and will probably remain that way in the foreseeable future. Anything that is available for purchase is usually twice the price it was last year. Extremely high demand is removing retail from the picture before any legislation is even passed. Enter barter…
Cash will remain a bargaining tool for as long as the dollar remains the world reserve currency and holds at least some semblance of value (this will end sooner than most people think). That said, as gun items become scarce, the allure of cash may be supplanted. The signs of this are already evident.
Gun owners are now looking more to trade firearms and accessories for OTHER firearms and accessories, because they know that once they sell an item, they may never see it again, and the usefulness of cash is fleeting. Gun Barter is not only a way for firearms enthusiasts to get what they need, it is also a way for them to move around any future gun sale restrictions that may arise. Private gun sales are legal in some states, but do not count on this to last. Barter leaves no paper trail, and thus, no traceable evidence of transaction. For those who fear this idea as “legally questionable”, all I can do is remind them that an unconstitutional law is no law at all. If it does not adhere to the guidelines of our founding principles, our founding documents, and our natural rights, then it is just a bunch of meaningless words on a meaningless piece of paper signed by a meaningless political puppet.
3D Printing And Home Manufacturing
3D Printing is now available to the public and for those with the money, I recommend they invest quickly. Unless the establishment wants to make the possession of these printers illegal, as well as shut down the internet, there will be no way to stop data streamers from supplying the software needed to make molds for every conceivable gun part, including high capacity mags. This technology has been effectively promoted by the Wiki Weapons Project:
http://defensedistributed.com/
According to current ATF law, the home manufacture of gun parts is not technically illegal, as long as they are not being produced for sale. But in a state or county where federal gun laws have been nullified, what the ATF says is irrelevant.
Home manufacturing of gun parts and ammo would be a highly lucrative business in such safe haven areas. And, the ability to build one’s own self defense platform is a vital skill in a sparse market environment. The ultimate freedom is being able to supply your own needs without having to ask for materials or permission from others. It should be the goal of every pro-gun activist to reach this independence.
Force The Establishment To Show Its True Colors
While some in the general public may be incensed by the trampling of our freedoms by government, many (including myself) would view direct action and aimless French Revolution-style violence as distasteful and disastrous. The moral high ground is all that any dissenting movement has. It will be hard enough to keep this ground with the constant demonization of liberty minded people that is being espoused by propaganda peddlers like the SPLC and numerous media outlets. We do not need to help them do their jobs.
Now, to be clear, I have NO illusions that the above strategies will defuse a confrontation between those who value freedom, and those who desire power. The hope is that enough people within our population will refuse to comply, and that this will make any future despotism impossible to construct. However, it is far more likely that these acts of defiance will elicit a brutal response from the government. And in a way, that is exactly what we want…
The Founding Fathers went through steps very similar to those I listed above and more to counter the tightening grip of the British Empire during the first American Revolution. The idea is simple:
Peacefully deny the corrupt system’s authority over your life by supplying your own needs and your own security, rather than lashing out blindly. Force them to show their true colors. Expose their dishonor and maliciousness. Make them come after you like the predators they are, and then, once they can no longer play the role of the “defending hero” in the eyes of the public, use your right to self defense to send them a message they won’t forget.
Skeptics will claim that physical defense is useless against a technologically advanced enemy. They will claim that we need a “majority” we do not have in order to prevail. These are usually people who have never fought for anything in their lives. They do not understand that the “odds” are unimportant. They mean nothing. No revolution for good ever begins with “majority support”. Each is fought by a minority of strong willed and aware individuals. When all other methods of protest have been dismantled, the system leaves us with only two options: stand and fight, or kneel and beg for mercy. All you need to know is what YOU would do when faced with that choice.
There is no other culture on earth that has the capacity, like Americans currently do, to defeat centralists, defend individual liberty, and end the pursuit of total global power in this lifetime. We are the first and last line. If freedom is undone here, it is undone everywhere for generations to come. This is our responsibility. This is our providence. There can be no complacency. There can be no compromise. There can be no fear. It ends on this ground. One way, or another…
Eddie says:
I just don’t see any solidarity. No movement. No organization. No agreement among those who would resist about how to do it. No good leaders. No plan.
What we have a is a sort of a simmering anger among those of us who see our liberties being eroded. A pervasive feeling of impending doom, a negative zeitgeist, but nothing has congealed into action.
Lots of brave talk from people who have never faced an armed and organized authority determined to take what they want by force.
People who march behind the flag of a Barrett .50 are likely to end up like Chris Dorner. If you read his manifesto you know that he claimed to have a Barrett that “would make the police APC’s useless” against him. No wonder they wanted to shoot first and ask questions later.
Instead of preparing for house-to-house search and seizures, Americans would be better off to use their political will in the form of money and votes to throw out the Feinsteins and the Giffords and the Obamas. Grassroots politics is still the best way to turn the tide against the enemies of freedom in this country.
Freedom loving people might be a minority today. But a determined minority that can mobilize votes is a potent force to influence the political whores who make up the Congress.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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16th February 2013 at 2:10 pm
ragman says:
Eddie: I reluctantly gave you a “thumbs up”. A Barrett 50 will certainly take out an APC, however one person cannot defeat a large PD or state gestapo. That being said, Dorner completely tied up Southern Cali for about a week. All by hisself. You mentioned lack of leadership. That is the real problem. I disagree with the premise that “grassroots politics” can result in the demise of the DiFis, Giffords, Obongos, &tc. Too mans FSA troopers that will NEVER vote against the establishment.
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16th February 2013 at 3:37 pm
Bostonbob says:
Eddie,
I think as this whole period of upheaval evolves you will see human nature take over.There will be leaders that will rise to the occasion and they might well be murdered by those who want to keep power. If you look as the absolute frenzy caused by one man with a few weapons in a major city, I would have to wonder if you had say 10 or 20 well armed organized men. What would have LA done then. If this happened in 20 or 30 cities you are only talking about a few hundred brave men. I am not condoning whar Dorner did, but I have to believe there are many others out there who feel much the same way he did. Maybe not from racism, but from some other oppressive slight form the government. Many people are sheep and will do nothing, but it is not a majority who lead a revolution. It is a small vocal minority. I really believe when TSHTF many, if not most of the police, sherriff’s, and DHS will seek to protect themselves and there family over protecting the overlords. As for gun registration, that cat is out of the bag, and I see many if not most of the people I know that will not comply and have full backup plans if registration comes to fruition. There are a lot of places to hide things in this big country and if you think the government has the capcity to storm troop every house, church, business, and scour all open space for thee hundred million weapons you will be sadly mistaken. Funny anecdote, I have three friends that have recenlty taken up rudimentary gun smithing. This will not end well.
Thank you,
Bob.
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16th February 2013 at 3:37 pm
Eddie says:
Giffords started a Super Pac to promote her agenda. We need a new Super Pac to defeat it. In this country, legislation is bought and sold. Instead of buying more guns, Americans should be writing their congressdouches a letter explaining how you will vote for someone else next time if they vote for gun control. And putting their money where their mouth is.
And show up and vote against these freedom haters if you live in their House or Senate district. Give money to their opponents.
1. Carolyn McCarthy D-NY
2. Charles Shumer D-NY
3. Frank Lautenberg D-NJ
4. Barbara Boxer D-CA
5. Jack Reed D-RI
6. Carl Levin D-MI
7. Richard Durbin D-IL
8. Nancy Pelosi D-CA
9. Nita Lowey D-NY
10.Carolyn Maloney D-NY
11.Kirsten Gillibrand D-NY
12.Henry Waxman D-CA
13.Dennis Kucinich R-OH
14.Chaka Fattah D-PA
15.Robert Menendez D-NJ
16.Zoe Lofgren D-CA
17.Jim Moran D-VA
18.Bill Pascrell D-NJ
19.Jane Harman D-CA
20.Alcee Hastings D-FL
It isn’t a coincidence that many of these people are the chosen of the FSA. Show up on election day and show them the door.
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16th February 2013 at 4:33 pm
IndenturedServant says:
Hey admin,
Did your email address change? I tried sending you an article just now but comcast says the address is not valid.
I_S
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16th February 2013 at 4:40 pm
Administrator says:
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I gave Comcast the boot. My new email address is quinnadvisors@gmail.com
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16th February 2013 at 4:54 pm
napari says:
Obama promised the fundamental transformation of the USA and he has not strayed from his promise. He’s getting what he wants by extreme left governing every step of the way and shows zero signs of compromise. Reasonable people keep proposing rational solutions to irrational governing and seem to expect cooperation from an uncooperative POTUS.
What we need is a 10 million man peaceful march on and occupation of washington DC.
Get it?
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16th February 2013 at 5:12 pm
DaveL says:
“I gave Comcast the boot. My new email address is quinnadvisors@gmail.com”
Damn, I sent you a couple of good jokes and they got kicked back, so i deleted them.
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16th February 2013 at 5:26 pm
Eddie says:
Bostonbob said
” Funny anecdote, I have three friends that have recently taken up rudimentary gun smithing.”
I’ve been building guns similar to the one in this video for years. I have three of them at the moment. One in .22 LR. One in .22 Mag. One box stock and awaiting customization. Too much fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qaxn_tA53I
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16th February 2013 at 5:30 pm
Bostonbob says:
Eddie Lautenburg is 89 and is not running again. There is a D scramble to see who is going to run just like here in MA for Kerry’s seat. Just like MA it will not be an election it will be a selection of the people in charge.
Thank you
Bob.
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16th February 2013 at 5:38 pm
Administrator says:
DaveL
Send them to my new email address. Your jokes are always funny.
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16th February 2013 at 5:40 pm
Bostonbob says:
Eddie I am sure you have seen what I have seen. The imagination and ability of the few will scare the shit out of many.
Bob.
It only takes a few crazy bastards to start a revolution.
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16th February 2013 at 5:44 pm
beast rudolfo says:
revolution is our heritige. the lines are forming, the commercial suppliers larue tactical, olympic arms & cheaper than dirt:
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/forums/posts.aspx?postID=36478
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16th February 2013 at 7:58 pm
outtahere says:
Revolution or subjugation. Take your pick. It’s coming down to that and at this point I don’t see any way around it.
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16th February 2013 at 11:07 pm
SSS says:
“Show up and vote against these freedom haters if you live in their House or Senate district. Give money to their opponents.”
—-Eddie
Holy shit. On your list of Congress critters to kick out were Dennis Kucinich of Ohio (he’s a Democrat, not a Republican, as you stated) and Democrat Jane Harman of California. They have already been kicked out of Congress ,,,,,, by even more liberal Democrats who ran against them. Time to update the list, Eddie.
But your biggest mistake was creating a list of ABSOLUTELY IMPREGNABLE DEMOCRATS to magically “kick out.” It will never fucking happen. Two examples.
Nancy Pelosi represents a congressional district in San Francisco. She routinely wins with 85% of the vote. Pelosi could get caught on camera fucking her pet German Shepard and her vote percentage would go UP.
Alcee Hastings of Florida. This motherfucker is the biggest disgrace in Congress. Hastings is a former FEDERAL JUDGE who was impeached, then convicted by the U.S. Senate and removed from the bench. Just the 6th federal judge in U.S. history to have been so disgraced. So he turns around and runs for the House of Representatives in a district in Florida and wins!!! And he keeps winning.
Here’s some advice, Eddie. You need to research swing districts. Folks who squeaked in with 50-52% of the vote and are on board with Obama and gun control. Those are the ones that are vulnerable. Nancy Pelosi, Alcee Hastings, and most of the other people on your list will DIE in office, if they so choose.
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16th February 2013 at 11:59 pm
Eddie says:
I just picked from a list of Congressmen and Senators said to be extreme gun control advocates. I apologize for any errors I might have made.
I am aware that many of these people are thought to be unbeatable.I was just trying to identify the enemy.
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16th February 2013 at 12:11 am
SSS says:
Eddie
Thanks. Fair enough. But most folks here know the main enemies of liberty. To us, Pelosi is an obvious and easy target. She’s also an incredibly stupid target because she can’t be beat.
Try this one. Gabrielle Giffords, the former Congresswoman from Tucson who was shot in the head and nearly killed in the strip mall parking lot in January 2011. Through her husband Jim Kelley, a former astronaut, “she’s” campaigning for gun control laws.
No, she isn’t. Her husband and the Democrats are. She can’t articulate shit. The woman’s brain was shot to shit in that attack. She’s a puppet.
Challenge this crap. Call the Democrats on it. “Is all this Gabby’s idea or are you using this unfortunate woman for political gain? Yes or no.”
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16th February 2013 at 12:43 am
Bruce says:
Revolution is not our destiny. At least not a good one. 80% or more of the public are morons no matter what side of the various issues they are on. Of the people 60% will simply be stunned and do nothing. 20% will take up sides inactively. 10% will fight for one team or the other. Another 8% will be watching to see who’s winning before taking sides and 2% will have the good sense to duck and hide. Morons don’t do government well as clearly demonstrated and at revolution they would do even worse. Morons in revolution mode would be a disaster.
Good leaders will not rise up because the last ones of any account died over fifty years ago and the really good ones over 200 years ago. Today we only have blowhards that talk loud or wright dramatic articles. Today’s voices of decent may have rifles and eloquent rhetoric but they lack one feature of the revolutionaries past……….and that is the balls for action.
Considering the fractured nature of our society into so many races, traditions, irrational believe systems, segregated groups and hate subgroups, most poorly informed, delusional, insane, outright stupid, totally self absorbed, or brain baked by some idiot ideology our destiny most likely is anarchy and chaos. Or nation has 1001 one different ways to jerk off and not one single way to cum together.
Our fate is more likely to be a world gone wild with gangs, roving lunatics, freaked out FSA zombies, bug eyed pedophile clergy on the prowl for one last grope, rabid workers and professionals delirious with hunger and anger, hunkered down survivalist target meat for the gangs or any semi organized attackers, mobile survivalists and those that are isolated enough or can just plain hide real well. It will be murder and destruction until there are so few left that the distance between various sustainable self forming communities of compatible people is great enough for things to become more or less peaceful and safe when close to home. Misery loves company so most of the planet will probably join in the game.
And if no revolution of morons or total Mad Max style chaos erupts or even if things actually get better……..we are still fucked. Either we take ourselves out some how or mother nature will do it for us.
Most of us are not advocates for mass species reduction programs but mother nature is and she always finds a way to implement her plans. If I was a betting man I’d put all my worthless fiat on Mother nature every time. Our own self destructiveness that is most likely coded into our DNA is probably a natural factor she is counting on with world wide cataclysmic disasters and deadly climate adjustments as a back up.
Oh yes………..we are definitely doomed. You will need some new type of invisible fireproof Ark to make it through the next big wipe out.
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16th February 2013 at 2:46 am
Administrator says:
Bruce
We’ll follow you.
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16th February 2013 at 9:04 am
flash says:
We already have fascists who will do anything the government says….
Will America Descend into Civil War?
32:10 Will America descend into a civil war?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEndLctWQ-c
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16th February 2013 at 10:53 am
Thunderbird says:
Bruce: It boils down to this… Free Will or Lost Will. Today most people in this country (despite their educational level) have very little Will of their own and seem to be fragments of their former family trees. Those who still possess free Will and use it will survive.
You are right that for some reason we humans have a bent for the destruction of each other and everything we built up that matures every few years. This seems to come from life or as you say nature. When one reads history this trend for mutual reciprocal destruction is a main theme. Egypt’s 24 Dynasties clearly demonstrate this trend in human nature.
However, there is a definite fear in the people about giving up their guns that government cannot ignore without blow back. People know that the police and law enforcement is not their friend; nor do the police demonstrate that they serve and protect the people. They do however, serve and protect administrative laws, which are not laws of the people, but only serve the government and corporations.
Government and corporations operate without conscience. Law enforcement operates without conscience. Lawyers and the court operate without conscience. Many people are now functioning without conscience. Schools and their administration operate without conscience. City councils operate without conscience.
It takes Free Will to lead one’s life with conscience. In our society of today “Free Will” goes against the laws of the land which are based in the root of money and have no moral foundation. Yes, morals and conscience go hand and hand and it takes Will power to overcome the suggestion of the State to live by their “rule of law” which is devoid of morals & principle. These laws have decayed our moral fabric.
Free Will is divine; a signature of God, who wants us to follow his laws voluntarily. Satanic nature is identified by forced compliance. When looking at Administrative Law in this country one has to ask, what forces are running this country, the darkness or the light? I think you all know.
Ignorance is bliss, but in human nature it leads to slavery. Those that know are few. Even law enforcement is ignorant and a slave of the state. They are human automations devoid of conscience, trained killers of the state, trained to enforce the satanic “rule of law” imposed on the public by Godless individuals who want to rule by their desire for power.
They will not go without the use of force. They are the enemies of love. Many are of the mistaken belief that everyone is the same. This is simply not true. There are those that love and there are those that hate and cannot stand love. There are those that love to kill. There are those that love power over others.
In our world of today we have lived in the ignorance of peace as those that love power ascended to the reins of power over us. This has happened on all levels of government. We are no longer a free people. I think there are enough people around to put these people out of power. Of course it will be bloody to do so.
So what is new under the Sun?
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16th February 2013 at 12:36 pm
Thunderbird says:
One more thing. It only took one man to bring out the worst in the southern California police. What would happen if several people around LA were picking off police officers? The public would soon be in grave danger and turn against the police.
Think about what is happening in Syria? The government in it’s actions against the rebels have destroyed entire neighborhoods and turned otherwise tame people against them. The government of Syria is now going down.
It appears the same is coming to America. This is nature at work and we are all part of nature.
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16th February 2013 at 12:44 pm
IndenturedServant says:
SSS said:
“Or nation has 1001 one different ways to jerk off and not one single way to cum together. ”
LOL! That has to be one of the coolest things I’ve ever heard!
I largely disagree with your assessment but at this point anything is possible. I just think that chaos and anarchy will not be good for anybody and *anybody* includes most working demoncrats. An awakening is happening but it remains to be seen how many will ultimately wake up. I was encouraged last October at the Silver Summit. The Summit is largely a place for the miners to court investors and industry and was decidedly not prepper/doomer oriented although it was clearly on peoples minds. The cross section of attendees I met and heard that get it ranged from fresh 20 year olds to those with one foot in the grave.
I don’t think that most people realize we have overlords, at least not in the sense that most TPB’ers do. Hell, I know we have overlords but I find it unnatural to think of it that way. Maybe it’s because I see our overlords as central bankers and they are rather anonymous and without form currently.
I_S
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16th February 2013 at 1:12 pm
SSS says:
“SSS said:
‘O(u)r nation has 1001 different ways to jerk off and not one single way to cum together.’ LOL! That has to be one of the coolest things I’ve ever heard!”
—-Indentured Servant
I say TONS of cool stuff on this site, I_S. Absolutely, over-the-top TONS of witticisms and pearls of wisdom. But that wasn’t one of them. Credit goes to Bruce.
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16th February 2013 at 6:10 pm
duck & cover says:
Bruce nailed it. Revolution is not any longer a part of our destiny! This nation and it’s citizens are so deeply into the left/right; white/black; rich/poor; north/south; pro-abortion/anti-abottion; rural/mega-city; employed/unemployed; God/no God, etc. paradigms that coming together and forming a cohesive front against Corporate America (the real center of power) and the pimp/whore politicians who crawl around on their knees begging for their patronage in the form of greenbacks, is too deeply entrenched to even think about rectifying. Just listen to the posters on this site who rail against Obama as if he was the sole cause of the current mess we’re in as opposed to being just another in a long line of corporate shitbag political opportunists to come along. We’ve forgot all about Bush and his band of merry whores as well as slick Willy who preferred that his secretaries talked to him while sitting under his desk. Do you think we are going to get a fine southern patriot from way down south to put away his white sheets and come play nice with the ‘gangstas’ from Detroit and South L.A. in a joint effort to force the rightful prosecutions of all the criminal bankers who are sitting around counting all the money? Best find ones self a place populated with individuals whose prejudices are few and more similar to your own. And that’s basically what we are, a fractured nation of places where we mostly live among and consort with people like ourselves. I believe in the future it will simply be more pronounced.
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16th February 2013 at 6:12 pm
AWD says:
Revolution and riots are coming, just you watch
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16th February 2013 at 6:13 pm
Administrator says:
Thanks for being a wet blanket on our revolution.
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16th February 2013 at 6:14 pm
AWD says:
My mom used to make Lime jello…
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16th February 2013 at 6:22 pm
El Jefe Magnifico, Guapo y Fuerte says:
A Battle Royale of retards as destiny?
Pffft. Cash that shit. It sounds like a good thesis until you realize it’s all just a pile of gibbering droolers with helmets and squeaky toys in a padded room.
Destiny’s just another way of saying lazy anyway
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16th February 2013 at 6:34 pm
IndenturedServant says:
SSS, you are correct. My apologies to Bruce!
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16th February 2013 at 8:57 pm
IndenturedServant says:
duck & cover said:
“Best find ones self a place populated with individuals whose prejudices are few and more similar to your own. And that’s basically what we are, a fractured nation of places where we mostly live among and consort with people like ourselves. I believe in the future it will simply be more pronounced.”
I don’t believe humans were ever meant to live in large groups. One of the most interesting observations I ever heard about America was that we are the loneliest nation on Earth. That was said by a young, Sudanese refugee who had spent the majority of his childhood and life growing up in a Kenyan refugee camp. Known as The Lost Boys, many of these young men came to America to attend college. A documentary was done about them and the unbelievable journey they had endured. After being here for some time, they were asked what they thought about America. One of them called America the loneliest place on Earth because he observed that you could walk past a thousand people everyday and never talk to anyone.
Where he was from, it is rude not to acknowledge a person when you cross paths. Everyone knew each other and therefore cared about each other. Here, not so much.
I_S
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16th February 2013 at 9:13 pm
Outtahere says:
Bruce
Spirited response, but about as effective as a limp dick. I assume that there is a percentage of people that will prefer to stick their head up their ass until some effective group organizes to actually do something to save your sorry ass. Lead, follow or get out of the way, but pronouncing a revolution as a non-starter is just throwing in the towel!
Sure, there will be (always has been) a large percentage of the population who will actually do NOTHING, hoping that things will turn out OK; afraid to take sides. But, tough decisions are going to have to be made and actions taken if we are to save this country.
In all battles there is a turning point when one side makes a strategic move that foretells the outcome. That strategic move in not sticking your head up your ass.
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16th February 2013 at 12:24 am
ThePessimisticChemist says:
300 million Americans. If even 1 in 1000 decide they’ve had enough, this country is in for a world of hurt.
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16th February 2013 at 9:17 am