KRUGMAN ON DEATH PANELS

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Posted on 22nd February 2013 by Cynical30 in Economy |Politics |Social Issues

I believe that there is actually audio or video of this floating around the internets as well.

Paul Krugman: ‘Death Panels and Sales Taxes is How We Do This’

 

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Nobel Prize winning “economist” Paul Krugman spoke at Sixth & I Historic Synagogue in Washington, D.C., last Wednesday evening. During the Q&A session following the lecture, an audience member asked him about the rising national debt.

Earlier in the evening, Krugman had already vocalized his satisfaction with President Obama’s apparent lack of concern over the exploding cumulative deficit. However, in a moment of brutal honesty, the esteemed Princeton professor revealed his long term prognosis. According to the professor:

Eventually we do have a problem. That the population is getting older, health care costs are rising…there is this question of how we’re going to pay for the programs. The year 2025, the year 2030, something is going to have to give…. We’re going to need more revenue…. Surely it will require some sort of middle class taxes as well….. We won’t be able to pay for the kind of government the society will want without some increase in taxes…. on the middle class, maybe a value added tax…. And we’re also going to have to make decisions about health care, doc pay for health care that has no demonstrated  medical benefits . So the snarky version…which I shouldn’t even say because it will get me in trouble, is death panels and sales taxes is how we do this.

Years of accumulating debt and expanding government programs only moves us down the “road to serfdom.” As Krugman crudely surmised, the consequence is government confiscation of wealth and government control over health care. Rarely are Leftists so candid in articulating their hopes. “Death panels and sales taxes” is the mantra of those seizing power in the nation founded on the rights of “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” What a difference two centuries makes.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/24892/paul-krugman-death-panels-and-sales-taxes-is-how-we-do-this

16 Comments
  1. AWD says:

    Paul “kick the can down the road” Krugman needs to be tried for treason, found guilty, and hung. It seems he’s advocating “death and taxes”; death panels for geezers, and crushing taxes for people that actually work. And, being a liberal progressive dumbfuck, more free shit for the FSA.

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    22nd February 2013 at 12:45 pm

  2. card802 says:

    Is Krugman advocating, or is he just pointing out the inevitability of the future?

    I can’t stand the keynesian can kicking cock sucker, but if this is the message, you would think somebody would listen and be afraid.

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    22nd February 2013 at 12:54 pm

  3. sensetti says:

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    22nd February 2013 at 1:01 pm

  4. sensetti says:

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    22nd February 2013 at 1:06 pm

  5. Stucky says:

    Krugman ….. a Joo …….. talking about Death Panels.

    Priceless.

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    22nd February 2013 at 1:26 pm

  6. sangell says:

    “We won’t be able to pay for the kind of government the society will want”

    Then, mirabile dictu, we’ll get the kind of government we can afford. That is a reality Krugman needs to face today, not in 2025 or 2030. Why run up enormous deficits today, the interest on which, we will have to pay when his ‘D-Day” arrives.

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    22nd February 2013 at 1:32 pm

  7. Eddie says:

    Death panels…what focus group came up with that winner of a concept?

    We need to stop financing quadruple bypasses and meds and hospitalization for those who burned out their lungs and hearts with cigarettes.

    We need to stop putting 85 year-olds with pneumonia on ventilators.

    We need stop paying for Lipitor for folks who lived their whole life on Moon Pies and Pepsi and weigh 300 pounds.

    We need to provide very basic healthcare and let individuals buy their own upgrades.

    “Death panels”…insurance companies invented that concept to scare people. Guarantee you that’s where it came from.

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    22nd February 2013 at 1:37 pm

  8. Zarathustra says:

    Stucky, what’s the big deal? They already have a concentration camp larger than anything the nazis ever dreamed of.

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    22nd February 2013 at 2:13 pm

  9. PlatoPlubius says:

    Have you been to Kaiser lately? These formulas they’ve concocted and had leagues of attornies scrutinize to ensure no liability for lawsuits have been used at good ol’ Kaiser for years already. Now the govt’ has adopted them and told us we should be “happy!”

    Example: According to Kaiser I am too young to have a knee replacement so I don’t get one. On the flip side, if you’re too old and no longer productive to society, I would imagine the formula would spit out a big fat “NO” too for whatever ailment you were afflicted with at the time.

    HURRY UP AND DIE!

    I wonder how many people will start doing this oldie but goodie….

    BRING OUT YOUR DEAD!

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    22nd February 2013 at 2:24 pm

  10. PlatoPlubius says:

    Remember this audio clip between Nixon and his advisor? (1 minute long)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmHTte8jRLk

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    22nd February 2013 at 2:50 pm

  11. BUCKHED says:

    When TSHTF…..Krugman and others like him will face death panels in the form of a jury….hope I’m one of the 11 on the panel. Can you say NOOSE.

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    22nd February 2013 at 2:53 pm

  12. TeresaE says:

    So the math genius thinks we have 12-17 years before trouble arrives.

    bwaaaahaaaaahaaaaahaaaa

    lying POS.

    Really, he really thinks we can play kick the can and pretend it isn’t happening for 12 more years?

    I hope he’s right.

    But, just like his original thesis (government can spend all they want and then some, in fact, they “have” to), he isn’t.

    I wish I thought these asshats would “get theirs.” But I don’t.

    Karma is a bitch but when TSHTF more likely it will be the likes of us swinging from rafters, not him.

    Witch hunts are due to start up anytime now. See something, say something, CISPA, NDAA.

    These are the legal tools to use to fuel a massive witch hunt.

    Right now the “witches” are anyone daring to tell the truth (kinda like during the original witch hunts), not the likes of Krugman. He’s a good guy.

    Our world is completely backassward.

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    22nd February 2013 at 7:26 pm

  13. DaveL says:

    Fuck it. Let’s crank up Logan’s Run right now. RENEWAL!

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    22nd February 2013 at 9:01 pm

  14. todd says:

    We keep focusing on the medical side of the death panels and forgetting the financial ones. This article is probably best read with a pot of strong coffee or perhaps it is national margarita day a pitcher of your favorite variety.

    This article is the best breakdown of the financial impacts I’ve seen. As the article points out you need to be planning your 2013 income. http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/02/03/obamacare-a-primer/

    “The ACA is most definitely a “uniquely American solution” which has little to do with reforming this country’s barbaric health care system. It merely controls peoples’ finances and choices while leaving insurance companies in charge and does virtually nothing to end their abuses. It will leave many millions of Americans uninsured and millions more underinsured at a staggering cost to taxpayers.

    Politicians, health care policy wonks and vested interests will brush aside the ACA’s adverse effects. You’ll hear that some have fallen through the cracks of health care reform but the problems can be easily tweaked. You will also witness the usual dog-and-pony show on Capitol Hill in which the two parties play the blame game. The bought-and-paid-for mainstream media will regurgitate whatever Washington feeds it, and TV talking heads will chime in, inviting their “experts” to analyze the situation while real people in the real world struggle to get by under this law or fall by the wayside.

    Good luck everyone and watch out for the folding chairs.”

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    22nd February 2013 at 11:04 pm

  15. todd says:

    DaveL – I loved Logan’s Run.

    I fear we are headed for some combination of Logan’s Run, Soylent Green ( http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/e9aa/ ) THX1138 meets Mad Max and Clockwork Orange.

    Maybe our medical care system is just headed for this, we don’t need to wast time with soylent green just eat your poop. http://gawker.com/5985723/can-you-eat-your-own-poop , and I got grossed out when Bear Grylls drank his own piss.

    “THE VERDICT: Assuming you are a healthy person, eating your own poop would probably not harm you. Eating someone else’s poop could make you sick if they were unhealthy, but eating poop from the right person could cure your diarrheal disease. But generally speaking, Max Read should stick to eating real food.”

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    22nd February 2013 at 11:15 pm

  16. Makati1 says:

    Whew! I feel the heat already…

    So many of you don’t want to face the fact that we CANNOT afford the kind of healthcare we take for granted. Just because it is possible to replace an organ or save a preemie, doesn’t mean it should be done and available to all. It actually does the person and society a disservice in the long run. It weakens the species. Trying to play Mother Nature or God, is wrong.

    We have lived in 100 years of oil based growth and luxury (the West, at least) and now the party is over, forever. There will be a lot of changes on the downside in the coming decades. Healthcare will be one of them. So, you can call the workings of Mother Nature a ‘death panel’ if you want but it all boils down to what YOU can afford. We are paying billions to keep someone alive for an extra six months or a year, or two, when their body is saying that it is time to go. That can not continue.

    And, before you say “he’s healthy and young” or “he doesn’t care about anyone”, think again. I’m 68. I have 4 kids, 12 grandchildren and 3 great grandchildren whom I love. I know their life expectancy is going to be less than mine, maybe much less. But, that is life. We have no guarantees.

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    22nd February 2013 at 3:07 am

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