Oliver Wendell Douglass: [after watching a "conversation" between Lisa and an oinking Arnold] How can you carry on a conversation with him? I can’t understand a thing he’s saying!
Lisa Douglas: That’s because you don’t LISTEN!
This article has two interesting aspects. It is absolutely correct in saying that government intervention in the student loan market has led to the huge increases in tuition. If you subsidize something, you get more of it and a non-market price. If students weren’t getting hundreds of thousands in loans from the government, they wouldn’t be able to go to college. If enrollments plunged, colleges would be forced to lower tuition and/or provide more financial aid. Instead, the government has completely taken over the student loan market and are guaranteed to screw the pooch. By the way. You are the pooch. The loan losses are yours.
The 2nd interesting aspect of this article relates to lawyers versus farmers. If you had $200,000 today, would it be a better move to use it to get a law degree or to take that money, buy some farm land, and become a farmer? With what is coming down the pike, I think farming is the better investment. Or you could be like Oliver Wendell Douglass and be a lawyer and a farmer.
Green acres is the place to be
Farm living is the life for me
Land spreading out so far and wide
Keep Manhattan, just give me that countryside
New York is where I’d rather stay
I get allergic smelling hay
I just adore a penthouse view
Darling I love you, but give me Park Avenue
The chores, the stores, fresh air, times square
You are my wife, goodbye city life
Green Acres we are there
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbk81X6WHA4
January 12, 2011
College Bubble Set to Burst in 2011
The National Inflation Association believes that the United States has a college education bubble that is set to burst beginning in mid-2011. This bursting bubble will have effects that are even more far-reaching than the bursting of the Real Estate bubble in 2006. College education could possibly be the largest scam in U.S. history.
NIA’s advice to the youth of America today is to think for yourselves. Don’t get suckered into overpaying for a college degree that is worthless because everyone else has one. College is only worth attending if you plan on actually learning something there. If you are only going to college because you think a piece of paper is going to help you find a job, you would be much better off skipping college and entering the workforce right now at any entry level job. Your experience will benefit you more than any piece of paper.
The median U.S. home price is currently $170,600, down 26% from its peak of $230,200 in July of 2006. The Dow Jones is currently 11,672, down 18% from its peak of 14,198 in October of 2007. Oil is currently $91 per barrel, down 38% from its peak of $147 per barrel in July of 2008. After the financial panic of 2008, the U.S. saw a collapse in the prices of just about all assets, goods, services, and commodities. Between lost stock market and home equity wealth, Americans lost $10.2 trillion in paper wealth in 2008, and have only recouped a fraction of it since then.
College is the only thing in America that never declined in price during the panic of 2008. It actually rose in price substantially. The annual tuition for a private four-year college was $21,235 in the 2005-2006 school year. Despite Real Estate beginning to collapse in late-2006, college tuition rose by 4.6% in the 2006-2007 school year to $22,218. Despite the stock market beginning to collapse in late-2007, college tuition rose by 6.7% in the 2007-2008 school year to $23,712. Despite oil and other commodities collapsing in late-2008, college tuition rose by 6.2% in the 2008-2009 school year to $25,177. Even after the Dow Jones crashed to a low in early-2009 of 6,469, college tuition still rose by 4.4% in the 2009-2010 school year to $26,273.
Annual tuition for a private four-year college in America is now $27,293, up 29% from five years ago. Meanwhile, the employment situation in the U.S. has deteriorated. There are currently 130.7 million non-farm jobs in America, down 3% from 134.5 million U.S. non-farm jobs in December 2005. 3.8 million jobs have been lost, while the U.S. population has grown by approximately 14 million people during the same time period. We would need to have seen the creation of 6.7 million non-farm jobs just to stay even, but now we are 10.5 million jobs short.
All across America, thousands of students are graduating law school each year with $250,000 in debt, but with no jobs at law firms available to them. 15,000 attorney and legal staff jobs have disappeared since 2008, yet 43,000 law degrees are being handed out each year. Law degrees are losing their value faster than the U.S. dollar is losing its purchasing power. Lawyers are non-producing workers that do nothing to create any real wealth for society. The artificially high incomes of lawyers are made possible entirely by inflation, which steals the wealth from hard working goods producing middle-class Americans and transfers it to those who add no real value to society.
The service sector currently makes up 76.9% of the U.S. GDP. Agriculture, which in 1933 made up 28% of GDP, currently makes up only 1.2% of GDP. The wealth of any country is primarily created at first from the production of food, oil, and precious metals. Secondly, wealth is created from the manufacturing of real consumer goods. After a country generates wealth by producing real things and builds a large domestic pool of savings, it can begin growing a service based economy, just so long as it has enough savings to support it.
During the past decade, an unprecedented number of Americans went to school to become lawyers, because they thought if they became a lawyer they would immediately become rich. 60% of the U.S. Senate and 37% of the House of Representatives are lawyers. The reason we have so many lawyers in Washington is so that they can pass as many new harmful laws and regulations as possible, in order to provide enough work for all of their lawyer friends. All of the needless legislation that is passed each year in order to provide work for lawyers, has the devastating unintended consequence of destroying what little is left of the free market. Small businesses are the backbone of the U.S. economy, but it is now nearly impossible for a small businessman with limited financial resources to build a large successful corporation in any sector, because their legal costs would eat up all of their profits.
Many law students got suckered into going to law school due to deceptive marketing practices. Some law schools are advertising that 90% of graduates are employed within one year of graduating. Sure, maybe 90% of law school graduates were employed a year later, with half of them working at McDonald’s, but no law school degree is required for that. Schools are using dozens of unethical tactics to manipulate their numbers while encouraging alumni to falsify the surveys they fill out about their employment situation. Just like we are now seeing countless class action lawsuits against mortgage companies that misled customers about the loans they signed up for, we will soon see a massive number of lawsuits filed against colleges that lied about their job placement rates and average starting salaries of graduates. (At least there will be some work for law school graduates.)
Most Americans today are sheep who believe that the key to success and happiness in life is following the same career paths as everybody else. While everybody went to school to become a lawyer, nobody went to school to become a farmer because Americans didn’t see any money in farming. With prices of nearly all agricultural commodities soaring through the roof in 2010 and with NIA expecting this trend to continue throughout 2011, the few new farmers out there are going to become rich while lawyers are standing at street corners with cups begging for money.
The college tuition bubble has been fueled by the U.S. government’s willingness to give out easy student loans to anybody who applies for them. If it wasn’t for government student loans, the free market would force colleges to provide the best quality education at the lowest possible price. By the government trying to make colleges more affordable, they have actually driven prices through the roof. Colleges have been encouraged to spend recklessly on wasteful construction projects, building new libraries, gyms, sports arenas, housing units, etc. Colleges spent $10.7 billion on construction projects in 2009. Although this is down from an average of $14.7 billion per year colleges spent on construction projects from 2005 to 2007, colleges are still struggling to pay off their old construction related debt. When interest rates start to rise, it will add further upside pressure to college tuition prices.
College students borrowed $106 billion in total student loans for the 2009-2010 school year, up from $96 billion in 2008-2009, $94 billion in 2007-2008, $87 billion in 2006-2007, and $83 billion in 2005-2006. Total student loan debt in the U.S. currently stands at $830 billion and now exceeds credit card debt. President Obama’s new student loan bill that was passed last year now makes the government the primary lender to students. By taking the free market out of the student loan business and allowing students to receive loans from the government at artificially low interest rates, colleges will be encouraged to spend more recklessly than ever. None of this wasteful spending is doing anything to improve the quality of education in America.
Over a year ago when NIA was filming ‘The Dollar Bubble’ in Los Angeles, violent riots broke out at UCLA over a 32% increase in college tuitions (from $7,788 to $10,302). We went to the protest in order to video tape the shocking footage to show you. While we were there we remember thinking to ourselves, why on earth are these students protesting at all? If tuitions are rising by 32% and they are unhappy about it, why don’t they quietly and peacefully enroll someplace else for college next semester. If not enough students enroll into UCLA, the university will be forced to either dramatically cut their costs or shut down. UCLA decided to completely ignore the riots and went ahead with the 32% rise in tuitions. Did the students decide to enroll someplace else? Nope, most of them simply took out larger student loans and went back to UCLA. In fact, UCLA reported that they received a record amount of freshman applicants for the next semester.
With all of the technological advancements taking place around the world today, the cost for a college education should be getting cheaper. Americans today can purchase just about any type of product they want over the Internet for substantially less than they can find it in a retail store. When the U.S. dollar collapses and the college bubble bursts, NIA predicts we will see a boom in online education where Americans take all of their courses over the Internet from the comfort of their own home at a fraction of the cost of traditional college.
Later this year, NIA is going to be producing a documentary about America’s college education crisis and the college tuition bubble that is about to burst. In the weeks ahead, NIA is going to begin searching for people who deserve to be featured in our documentary. If you are a college student, a recent college graduate, or a current or ex-college professor with an extremely shocking, interesting, and important story that the whole world needs to know about in what will be the most viewed college documentary in world history, please send an email to collegebubble@inflation.us. We would also love to hear from any NIA member who has any ideas of topics that we should cover in this new documentary. Please send all ideas and suggestions to collegebubble@inflation.us.
This will truly be one of the most important documentaries NIA has ever produced. We need to change the mindset in America that only those with college degrees have any chance of becoming successful. Americans have become so brainwashed that even after graduating college with over $50,000 in debt and not being able to find a job, many of them are wasting even more years of their life and getting even deeper into debt to attend a graduate school, for a master’s degree that is just as worthless as a bachelor’s degree. It is like comparing a $10 bill (master’s degree) to a $1 bill (bachelor’s degree), they are both worthless pieces of paper with no intrinsic value.
NIA believes that any recent high school graduate with $30,000 saved for college who invests that money into silver and becomes a minimum wage apprentice for the next 4 years, will likely have enough money in 4 years to buy a median priced U.S. home. Not only that, but they will have work place experience that is far more valuable than the worthless college degrees of any of their friends. We must work hard to educate America to the truth if our country is going to have the wherewithal to survive the upcoming bursting college bubble and Hyperinflationary Great Depression.
It is important to spread the word about NIA to as many people as possible, as quickly as possible, if you want America to survive hyperinflation. Please tell everybody you know to become members of NIA for free!
eugend66 says:
Umm …, smarter Wallmart greeters, burger flippers and TSA thugs. /sarc
When gifted kids cannot go to college, that`s a shame. OTOH, here I found a nice quote
that says something like: Drunk, fat and stupid is not ……. .
Time can solve lots but the candle is burning your fingers.
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14th January 2011 at 9:02 am
TeresaE says:
And the beauty of this debt-fueled “bubble,” is that you can’t bankrupt your way out of it.
If you can’t find work, you may be “granted” an extension, where interest still accrues and your debt becomes larger.
Eventually, when the grad gives up and applies at Home Depot or Walmart, they will “find work,” the part not considered is the work is minimum wage which will barely cover the payments, let alone food, gasoline to get to work or a roof over your head.
What a tangled mess we have made in our quest to transfer our (the middle class) hard work and actual efforts to the top 1% and their vaults.
Once again, the only “shocking” thing I see is the fact people are shocked.
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14th January 2011 at 9:08 am
Administrator says:
TeresaE
But now they can stay on their parents health plan until they are 26. Obama says that won’t cost the taxpayer more money. See there is a silver lining.
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14th January 2011 at 9:21 am
eugend66 says:
Youngsters, at 26 can crush rocks with their hands. Obambam ES, OTOH!
I`m young enough to read and old enough to fail. Guidance always come from
parents first.
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14th January 2011 at 9:39 am
Kill Bill says:
Now why would insurance cartel lobbyists want a 26 year old on their parents policy? I ask myself.
26 year olds are usually healthy and dont need much medical care nor do most 26 year olds purchase their own insurance. So now the parent, being responsible, can pay a higher premium for eight more years!
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14th January 2011 at 9:43 am
Kill Bill says:
If I were to call “Free Market Economics”, now shown to be amoral, irresponsible and steals from your pocket, “Liberal Economics” mass confusion would break out. -Kill Bills HL Mencken impression.
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14th January 2011 at 9:44 am
Kill Bill says:
It is absolutely correct in saying that government intervention [loans or subsidizing] in the
student loanprivate insurance market has led to the huge increases intuitionpremiums [via subsidies]Funny how just changing a few words puts things in a different perspective.
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14th January 2011 at 9:56 am
StuckInNJ says:
Green Acres was THE CORNIEST sitcom of all time, was it not? There were worse sitcoms such as ‘My Mother The Car” (WTF???) and “Mr. Ed” .. but neither Albert or Gabor had an ounce of comedic ability. The real question here is, would you rather fuck Lisa or the pig? I’d pick the pig … at least Arnold would appreciate my attempt at the Twirl. Lisa would just complain … even if I was very successful. (BTW, I can’t stand her.)
Regarding college, students are wasting their money unless they are actually preparing for, 1) a REAL trade (such as engineering, computer science, medical, etc.), and 2) selecting a trade where they actually have a chance for employment upon graduation.
What I specifically mean here is that I am totally surprised Liberal Arts type colleges aren’t going out of business. Maybe they will soon … by the hundreds. I mean, WTF good is a degree in History? Or English? Or literally hundreds of other stooopid majors?? What a waste of money!!
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14th January 2011 at 10:40 am
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Stuck
How about Petticot Junction?
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14th January 2011 at 11:02 am
StuckInNJ says:
I actually liked that show. I was a pre-teen and I loved the short shorts and tight blouses that the girls wore.
The Flying Nun was even worse than Green Acres. Sally Fields as a nun???? I assume that was before Burt fucked her brains out in the back of a TransAm.
I miss those “Favorite xxx” threads we used to have.
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14th January 2011 at 11:12 am
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Stuck
I was thinking about the Favorites lists. How about favorite movie villian? Should I do a post?
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14th January 2011 at 11:29 am
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JIM ROGERS BETS ON FARMERS
Jim Rogers Rotates From Gold To Rice, Sets Foundation For Next Bubble
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 01/14/2011 11:12 -0500
Ben Bernanke Federal Reserve Jim Rogers Renminbi Sovereigns
During a presentation in Chicago yesterday, Jim Rogers may have well laid the foundation for the next bubble predicted by Zero Hedge in October, namely rice. His comments may have also spooked some of the weaker hands in gold, which has tumbled by $20 today, primarily on concerns what Chinese tightening may do to demand for the precious metal. Of course, how tightening is bad for commodities and good for stocks is one of those questions that can only be explained by the Fed’s third mandate. From Bloomberg: “While gold “may go down for awhile,” the metal is “going to go over $2,000 in this decade,” Rogers, who owns gold, silver and rice, said today during a presentation to business executives in Chicago. Gold touched a record $1,432.50 an ounce in New York on Dec. 7. The price closed today at $1,387. “I’d rather own rice,” Rogers said. “I’d rather own something that’s more depressed than gold.””
Rogers has long been bullish the MOO complex, and the recent surge in food prices merely validates his most recent predictions:
Agricultural commodities are “going to boom” as demand increases in developing markets, primarily in Asia, he said. All commodities will be supported by the weakening dollar, which is losing value because Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke is “printing money” by buying Treasuries in an effort to shore up the U.S. economy, Rogers said.
“Paper money is made of cotton, and I’m long cotton, by the way,” Rogers said. “One reason I’m long cotton is because Dr. Bernanke is out there running the printing presses as fast as he can.”
Rogers said he doesn’t own shares in U.S. companies and is short U.S. long-term treasury bonds. The Chinese renminbi may provide “almost sure profits over the next five to 10 years,” he said.
“In the future, it’s the stock broker who’s going to be driving the cabs,” Rogers said. “The smart stock brokers will learn to drive tractors, and drive them for the farmers, because the farmers will have the money.”
In the meantime, with the fundamental thesis that printing money will do little to strengthen the dollar unchanged, non-dilutable currencies of the precious metal variety are merely enjoying this latest shake out, which is certainly being welcome by banks like the PBoC which has the buying a few billions worth of gold to even remotely approach the actual (supposed) holdings of “sovereigns” like the GLD.
As for those who wish to catch the next bubble during the parabolic phase, we may recommend an early positioning in rice and its derivatives. And yes, rubber will be next.
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14th January 2011 at 11:33 am
StuckInNJ says:
Ohhhhh … Favorite Movie Villian ….. oh, yeah …… do a post on that. So many to choose from. That could be fun.
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14th January 2011 at 11:44 am
TeresaE says:
Kill you can do that with oh so many other industries/things.
Government intervention in vaccination market, has led to record pharm profits and increased costs
G.I. in the rubber tire market, has led to record prices for consumers
G.I. in the kid’s clothing & toy market, has led to 30-50% increases in pajamas and socks, and record profits for Mattel
G.I. into manufacturing has meant the ascension of the third world, paid for by the middle class.
The list goes on and on.
For every “problem” the solution is beg the government does something. Every solution the government puts forth causes us, the middle class, to lose more of our earnings. Insanity
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14th January 2011 at 11:50 am
Smith-n-Jones says:
Mostly, this is right on. I have a high-school senior looking at college right now and it’s making me sick. But I have to quibble with the notion that it is govt. intervention in the student loan market that drove things sky high. I went to college in the 70′s and the govt. was in the student loan business then too and had been for a while, or I would have been unable to attend. I am probably in that group of people who earned much more in their working career because of the degree, though I think that may no longer be true for today’s grads. Back then, commercial banks were not nearly as big a part of it, and tuition was cheap.In 1978, my tuition and fees at a division 1 university in the midwest cost me $290 for a semester. The minimum wage at that time was about $3, so working less than 100 hours at the minimum wage paid for a semester of college. Today, that same university charges $3200 for a semester and minimum wage is $6.75, so it takes something like 450 hours at the minimum wage to earn a semester of tuition. No wonder kids today can’t do it without loans. It’s pretty obvious that the same dynamic that crashed the housing market caused tuition to skyrocket, i.e. easy money. It’s not government intervention in the student loan market that caused this; it’s the private banks edging their way in, which has only been a big factor in the last 15 years or so, about the same timeframe as the securitization industry that wrecked the housing market. That plus the rise of for-profit diploma mills using govt. loans to enslave today’s younger generation probably has the most to do with it.
And why dog on English majors? I have a Master’s in Eenglishe Litrachoor and I use it everyday in my work in the IT industree. It don’t much matter what degreee yu got, itz what u do wit it.
But there’s no doubt that the higher education industry has become a scam that is enslaving an entire generation. Admin should know.
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14th January 2011 at 12:29 pm
Administrator says:
Smith n Jones
We just need to keep the scam going for another 13 years or so until I retire. My son just got accepted into Penn State. My tuition benefit from my University will pay all of his tuition. BWAAAAAA!!!!
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14th January 2011 at 12:47 pm
Smith-n-Jones says:
Congratulations! That’s a great school. My son has a friend (a year older) going there now. He’s on a Crew scholarship. I am hoping my son gets into UC Berkeley. We live here and my wife is a teacher with tenure, so he can live at home. But even with all the strings we are pulling furiously, I don’t know if he can get in. The competition is fierce, and he’s a white male (big disadvantage).
13 years? Hell, I’m hoping for 4 before the wheels come off. If this son, the last of 5, gets through college and I’m still breathing and my job has not been outsourced to Bangalore yet, I’ll count myself fantastically lucky.
By the way, I always loved Green Acres. Hank Kimball was my fave.
I am looking for farmland myself right now. 3 of those 5 sons are unemployed or underemployed, including Mr. Graduating Senior. Can you say fieldhand?
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14th January 2011 at 1:07 pm
StuckInNJ says:
S-n-J; — “By the way, I always loved Green Acres ………. I am looking for farmland myself right now.”
Oh shit …….. this may not end well.
I WORRY for you my internet buddy. Hopefully you’re not turning to Eddie for farming tips.
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14th January 2011 at 1:31 pm
Administrator says:
I have a friend who has bought land in Lancaster, PA and in Kansas as escape hatches. I’m hoping he’ll hire me to supervise the field hands and balance his books when TSHTF.
Being a white male is a big disadvantage everywhere now. Except on Wall Street.
I have to go with Stuck. I liked the chickies on Petticot Junction.
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14th January 2011 at 1:47 pm
Shadows says:
Spot on. The above article perfectly explains why Im going for a pharmacy doc at a cheap public school, taking out zero loans, paying for everything up front as I go. Pretty soon if I keep this up I will receive the automatic tuition halving for my high gpa. I should be able to run through my entire education without going a cent in debt. Me and my roommates have decided to move into nearby apartments next year, which we calculated is significantly cheaper than the dorms. I almost decided not to come to college, to just go into a trade, like farming listed above. It doesn’t take a genius to see that there is a huge bubble in the bachelor degree professions and that employment prospects in those markets are going to be crap for decades. Its actually blue collar skilled work thats facing a shortage. But im just too smart not to go to college, I guess, unlike many of the illiterates I attend class with, who will end up dropping out in two years having failed half their classes, thousands in debt. Sold a lie by the education industry they would have better off learning masonry. I put a lot of thought into pharmacy before I chose it, you know. First of all, it appeals to me and my istj nature. Im quiet, methodical, exact, a storehouse of data. I like to be precise about things. And the like the realness of it. You give somebody medicine and they get better. Its not some job where I can’t figure out how the fuck im contributing to the economy, what exactly im doing to earn my paycheck. People look up to pharmacists. They are respected pillars of the community known for ethics. And as a burning platform reader, I have other considerations as well. Its safe. Its rapidly growing as a sector of the economy as the population
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14th January 2011 at 6:00 pm
Shadows says:
Crap, I posted with finishing. Fuck this phone. Anyway, I was saying that pharmacy is projected to grow a lot and more importantly to me is relatively invulnerable to a depression. People always need medicine, no matter what happens. I fully expect the next ten years to be brutal and I want to be secure. I can’t be easily replaced (you need a difficult six year education to be allowed to work as a pharmacist) can’t be outsourced and can go anywhere in the world.
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14th January 2011 at 6:05 pm
Shadows says:
And as for a tuition bubble burst, which I agree will occur soon as the reality of Everybody Goes to College starts to explode in societies face, as less qualified or interested high school seniors stop pouring in as they realize that its not the be all end all and guaranteed and required employment certificate its cooked up to be, that’s just gravy for me. Nothing wrong with paying less tuition eh?
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14th January 2011 at 6:14 pm
StuckInNJ says:
I have been to the Pharmacy, and I don’t understand why it takes six years.
I give the Pharmacist my prescrpition.
He goes to a shelf with a bunch of bottles.
He empties the bottle of its contents.
He then takes a flat knife and counts out the number of pills I need.
He puts these pills in another bottle.
I pay.
End of transaction.
This is how it goes every time. Opening bottles and counting pills. Seems that can be learned in 6 hours.
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14th January 2011 at 6:19 pm
avalon says:
Shadows good luck with Pharmacy school, I think that is a great career choice. I tell my kids all the time that it would be a great job for them but they don’t listen.
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14th January 2011 at 6:49 pm
Kill Bill says:
Guy across the street from me works in the pharmacy and counts pills and puts them in bottles. But he isnt a pharmacist.
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14th January 2011 at 6:51 pm
DexterMorgan says:
First, after watching a lot of college sports all my life, I’ve concluded that a lot of kids go to college for the drunkin, sex orgies…and a lot less for an education….plus, if you can get an interest deferred loan to pay for it…why worry…?
Also…all I hear about education is math, science, math, science, math, science, math, science, math, science….which is fine…I happen to work in that field.
But….let me tell you this .A really good engineer in India makes about $11,000 per year….Anybody know any engineering grads in this country who can make ends meet on that…?
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14th January 2011 at 6:54 pm
Kill Bill says:
For every “problem” the solution is beg the government does something. Every solution the government puts forth causes us, the middle class, to lose more of our earnings. Insanity -TeresaE
Thats very true. But who is actually writing that legislation is lobbyists for the folks profiting from those laws. Its what so many are missing on the health reform issue. Those laws werent written by the elected representatives but by the insurance lobby.
Have you read up on Friedrich von Hayek? His thesis is basically what politicians have embraced and thats letting the corporations and finance run amok.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Hayek
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14th January 2011 at 6:59 pm
Kill Bill says:
I tell my kids all the time that it would be a great job for them but they don’t listen. -Avalon
Mine either.
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14th January 2011 at 7:18 pm
Punk in Drublic says:
Shadows
I wish that I had the presence of mind to be thinking ten years ahead when I had graduated high school. Don’t know that I would have gone on to college. No money, shitty grades and a fear of debt would still have posed a problem. But I might not have fucked off so much, guided my direction more.
Pharmacy is good choice. I think you’re right, it is definitely going to be needed in the future, and people do look up to them. Well, the small town “Say hi to your aunt Gurtie for me” kinda guy, not the “Big Pharma bastards”.
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14th January 2011 at 7:30 pm
Administrator says:
Shadows
Will you be able to score some medical Marijuana for SSS?
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14th January 2011 at 8:19 pm
eugend66 says:
Shadows – Anything that puts food on the table and then some is OK, Good Luck.
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OTOH, greed is bad, dont turn to the dark side,
Little ppl will like you, if that counts … .
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14th January 2011 at 6:25 am