What does this mean? The liberal MSM has ridiculed this movement with their usual misinformation and lies. This is just another sign of the Fourth Turning mood change. the mood grows darker by the day. The smell of conflict is in the air. The linear believing punditry actually think that some ridiculous fiscal cliff compromise is going to solve our problems. They proclaim that 2013 will be the year of economic recovery. Sorry linear thinking progressives. Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better. You can laugh off the talk of secession, but it is a reflection of the dire circumstances that confront this country today. This Fourth Turning gives all indications of heating up in the near future.
THE GOOD DOCTOR ON SECESSION
This was an interview reposted on RonPaul.com from a couple years ago when Rick Perry still had balls and was talking about Texas Seceding. As always, Dr. Paul educates and tells it like it is.
Ron Paul: Secession Is an American Principle
By RonPaul.com on November 13, 2012
This weekend I got a couple of calls from the media asking me questions about Rick Perry, our governor here in Texas and the statements he made about possible secession. Now, he didn’t call for secession, but he was restating a principle that was long held and at least in the original time of our country, and that is that there was a right to secession.
Actually, after the Civil War, nobody believes there is a so-called right to secession, but it is a very legitimate issue to debate because all of the states that came into the Union before the Civil War believed they have a right to secede and New England in the early part of the 19th century actually considered it, and nobody questioned them about whether they had the right to do it or not.
Since the Civil War, it’s been sort of a dead issue, but he brought it up. It stirred the media and believe me, it really stirred some of the liberal media where they started really screaming about what is going on here. “This is un-American”, I heard one individual say, “This is treasonous to even talk about it.”
Well, they don’t know their history very well because if they think about it, it’s an American tradition. It’s very American to talk about secession. That’s how we came into being. Thirteen colonies seceded from the British and established a new country, so secession is very much an American principle.
What about all the strong endorsements we have given over the past decade or two of those republics that seceded from the Soviet system? We were delighted with this. We never said, “Oh no. Secession is treasonous”.
No. Secession is a good principle. Just think of the benefits that would have come over these last 230-some years if the principle of secession had existed. That means the federal government would always have been restrained, not to overburden the states with too much federalism, too many federal rules and regulations.
But since that was all wiped out with the Civil War, the federal government has grown by leaps and bounds and we have suffered the consequences, and we need to reconsider this. It’s not un-American to think about the possibility of secession. This is something that’s voluntary. We came together voluntarily. A free society means you can dissolve it voluntarily. That was the whole issue was about.
Just remember one of the reasons that Wilson drove us in unnecessarily into World War I. He talked about what we have to give, have every country in the world the benefit of self-determination, a good principle. Of course, I don’t think he really believed that. But self-determination is a good principle. It’s a very American principle, so to me it’s a shame that we can’t discuss this.
You know, it’s interesting that so many of us have been taught for so many years, and as long as I can remember from the first grade on up taking the pledge of allegiance that we have a republic that’s “indivisible” and we have been preached that and preached it. So therefore, there is no contest, no question since the Civil War that we have even the thought that this could happen.
But you know what a lot of people don’t talk about and they really don’t even know about is who wrote the pledge to the flag. The pledge to the flag came from, for instance, Bellamy, an avowed Socialist who wanted to put into concrete in the pledge this principle of being indivisible, and he did it, you know, for the celebration ironically 400 years of the celebration of the landing of Christopher Columbus, so it was in 1892.
I mean, the pledge of allegiance has not been here, you know, all our history. So I think it’s worth of discussion. I think people should discuss this because right now, the American people are sick and tired of it all and I think the time will come when people will consider it much more seriously is when the federal government can no longer deliver. That time will come when the dollar collapses.
No matter what they do and how many promises they have and how many bailouts they have, they can’t do it if the money doesn’t work. So then, the independence of the states will come back and it doesn’t mean that you’ll be un-American to even contemplate what might have to be done once the dollar crashes.
Celebrating the 150 Year Anniversary of Secession
And yes, it is once again Coming Soon to a Theatre Near You.
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Confederate Descendants Mark 150th Anniversary
by The Associated Press





MONTGOMERY, Ala. February 19, 2011, 05:26 pm ET
Confederate descendants and re-enactors dressed in soldiers’ uniforms and hoop skirts marched down the main avenue in Montgomery on Saturday to mark the 150th anniversary of the inauguration of Confederate President Jefferson Davis.
They started at a fountain where slaves were once sold, past the church that Martin Luther King Jr. led during the Montgomery Bus Boycott, and ended at the Capitol steps, where Alabama’s old and modern history often collide.
It’s the spot where former Gov. George C. Wallace proclaimed “segregation forever” in 1963 and where King concluded the historic Selma-to-Montgomery voting rights march in 1965.
The city no longer rolls out the red carpet for the Sons of Confederate Veterans like it did 50 years ago, when the centennial of Davis’ inauguration was a state-coordinated celebration with past and present governors and officials from all ranks of government.
On Saturday, state and city officials gave permission for the SCV to march, but had no role in the events. Elected officials from the governor to the mayor chose to stay home or go to other events.
The reception was even colder from African-American leaders in the state.
“The whole celebration is akin to celebrating the Holocaust,” state NAACP President Benard Simelton said.
Simelton said elected officials stayed away because they knew attendance would be viewed as a slap in the face to African-Americans, who make up one-fourth of Alabama’s population.
Black leaders had discussed holding a protest like the one held in December at a Secession Ball in Charleston, S.C., but decided against it.
“We didn’t want to give them more publicity,” said Rep. Alvin Holmes, the longest serving black member of the Alabama Legislature.
A downtown shopper, Shirley Williams of Montgomery, who is black, shook her head as she walked by the parade. She said she was offended the parade occurred during Black History Month.
“It represents things in the past that were not positive. Some things ought to be remembered, but this brings up too many painful things people went through,” she said.
Sons of Confederate Veterans members, who trace their history to ancestors who fought in the war, call it the “War Between the States” or the “War of Secession” rather than the Civil War. They say its origins have been distorted by modern historians.
SCV member Randy Beeler said he drove from Paducah, Ky., to “send a message the war was fought over states’ rights. Slavery was an issue, but it was not the main issue.”
“Yes, it was about states’ rights. It was about states’ rights to have slavery,” retorted Rep. Holmes, a retired college history teacher.
One of the organizers, Chuck McMichael, a past national commander of the SCV, called the comparison of the march to celebrating the Holocaust ludicrous.
“In many ways the Union Army acted more like the German army of the 1940s with its scorched earth policy,” said McMichael, a high school history teacher from Shreveport, La.
The Montgomery event is the biggest event planned by the SCV this year to mark the sesquicentennial. In 2012, McMichael said the action will switch to Richmond, Va., which replaced Montgomery as the capital of the Confederacy.
Holding up a Confederate flag near the end of the ceremony, he told the crowd, “As long as there blows a southern breeze, this flag will fly in it.”
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