Ukrainian Security Official Says Ukraine Shot Down MH-17

Guest Post by Paul Craig Roberts

298 Passengers and crew were murdered by Ukraine in order to create a propaganda attack on Russia.  The filth that comprise the Western media and governments hid the truth for the sake of Washington’s anti-Russian propaganda.

The security official says that his suspicions were aroused by “the amazingly prompt reaction of the Ukrainian leadership,” which “indicated prior knowledge of the affair.”  Perhaps readers will remember that at the time I pointed out that the event was clearly staged as the same propagandistic accusation against Russia appeared everywhere instantly long before any investigation.  Indeed, the investigation was stillborn as it could not be concocted to indicate Russia’s guilt.

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MH-17: Russia Convicted By Propaganda, Not Evidence

Guest Post by Paul Craig Roberts

Today is the second anniversary of the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, and we still do not know the explanation.

Washington and its European vassal politicians and media instantly politicized the event: The Russians did it. End of story. After 15 months of heavy anti-Russian propaganda had imprinted the message on peoples’ minds, the Dutch Safety Board issued its inconclusive report.

By then, it was irrelevant what the report said. Everyone already knew that “the Russians did it.”

I remember when pre-trial media accusations resulted in dismissed cases. Anyone declared guilty prior to presentation of evidence and conviction was considered to have been convicted in advance and unable to receive a fair trail. Such cases were dismissed by judges.

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The MH-17 ‘Report’

Guest Post by Paul Craig Roberts

When I read that the report on the downing of the Malaysian airliner over Ukraine was being put in the hands of the Dutch, I knew that there would be no investigation and no attention to the facts.

And there wasn’t.

I did not intend to write about the report, because Washington’s propaganda has already succeeded, at least in the Western world, in its purpose of laying the blame on Russia. However, the misrepresentation of the Dutch report by Western media, such as NPR, is so outrageous as to make the media the story and not the report.

For example, I just heard NPR’s Moscow correspondent, Corey Flintoff, say that the missile that hit the airliner was fired by Ukrainian separatists who lack the technical ability to operate the system. Therefore, the missile had to have been fired by a Russian.

There is nothing in the Dutch report whatsoever that leads to this conclusion. Flintoff either is incompetent or lying or he is expressing his view and not the report’s conclusion.

The only conclusion that the report reaches is one that we already knew: if a Buk missile brought down the airliner, it was a Russian-made missile. The Dutch report does not say who fired it.

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MH17: more proof that the Ukies did it

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MH17: more proof that the Ukies did it

The Russian newspaper MK has obtained a screenshot of the recording of a civilian Russian radar screen in Rostov – just east of the Russian-Ukrainian border.  This is what is shows:


What this image shows is 20 minutes of recording of the airspace before and after the shooting down of MH17.  The course of MH17 is shown in purple while the numerous little blue “T” shaped objects in the circle show the radar return of one or, possibly two, aircraft which either do not have a transponder or which have not switched it on.  Either way, since we know that the Novorussian Resistance did not have aircraft, and since we know that the Ukrainians have denied that they had any aircraft anywhere near this area at that time, and since we know that had this been a Russian aircraft the US/NATO AWACS and satellites would have picked it up and presented this damning proof a long time ago we can come to the only possible conclusion:  the Ukies and their US/EU patrons are lying, the aircraft seen on the radar are Ukrainian, no Buk missile was involved in the shooting (though I personally believe that one was used to cue the Ukrainian aircraft to MH17) and that MH17 was shot down by a combo of gun and missile fire from one or two Ukrainian aircraft.

The Saker

PS: by the way, if a civilian radar needs a return signal from a transponder to get the identity, altitude and speed of an aircraft, military radars do not.  Since I am quite sure that the Russians also had plenty of military radars in the region, I am equally sure that, just as the US and NATO, the Russian military also has the ironclad proof that the Ukies did it in the form of radar track recordings.  Whether they will ever present such proof or not (and I am sure that they would prefer not to) or whether they will only generate such “leaks” from civilian sources as the one today in MK instead is unclear to me.  I guess it depends on what the AngloZionist propaganda says.

MH-17: MISSILE OR 30 MILLIMETER SHELLS?

This is a picture of the cockpit of MH-17 just below the window on the pilot side. Have you seen this picture in the American mainstream media? We have former Air Force members on this site. Are those bullet holes? Do you understand why the audio transmissions between the pilots and the controller tower have disappeared. Do you understand why the black box recordings are not being released? Do you understand that Obama, the EU and the Ukrainian government are mass murderers?

Hat tip Frenchie

MH-17: THE UNTOLD STORY

Three months after Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was violently brought down from the skies over Ukraine, there are still no definitive answers to what caused the tragedy. Civil conflict in the area prevented international experts from conducting a full and thorough investigation. The wreckage should have been collected and scrupulously re-assembled to identify all the damage, but this standard investigative procedure was never carried out. Until that’s done, evidence can only be gleaned from pictures of the debris, the flight recorders or black boxes and eye-witnesses’ testimonies. This may be enough to help build a picture of what really happened to the aircraft, whether a rocket fired from the ground or gunfire from a military jet.

IF YOU TELL THE TRUTH, YOU DON’T HAVE TO REMEMBER YOUR LIES

So let me get this straight. The transmissions between the air traffic controllers and the pilots of MH-17 mysteriously disappeared. The black box recordings are now classified and will never be revealed to the public. The wreckage shows multiple gun shot holes. The Dutch Foreign Minister revealed today that a passenger had their oxygen mask on. Do you put an oxygen mask on when you are shot down by a ground based missile or when fighter jets are firing at your plane? Putin and the Russians had nothing to do with the shooting down of MH-17. The Ukrainian government are murderers. Obama and his EU buddies are accomplices to murder. These sociopaths will do anything to retain their power, wealth and control over the people. 

MH-17 Report False Flag Exposed After Revelation Passenger Was Wearing Oxygen Mask

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When exactly a month ago the supposedly objective, impartial Netherlands released its official, 34-page preliminary report of the MH-17 crash over Ukraine, presumably based on black box data, air traffic control records, and other “authentic, verified” information, there were precisely zero mentions of “oxygen“, “mask” or “oxygen mask.”

Which is odd, because in what should become the biggest Freudian slip scandal in false-flag history, certainly since the Gulf of Tonkin, yesterday Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans accidentally revealed for the very first time ever, that one of the Australian passengers aboard the doomed airplane appears to have donned an oxygen mask before the fatal crash, suggesting some on board might have been aware of their impending deaths, a Dutch official disclosed.” Clearly a crucial aspect of the crash, as it points at the severity of the alleged explosion, yet one which was not noted until yesterday and which completely skipped the purvey of the official crash report for reasons unknown.

Needless to say, this makes a complete mockery of the story that the plane had exploded upon impact with the “Russian” missile, and is why there was supposedly no trace of any impact on the flight’s black box recorder. Whether or not it also means that the alternative theory that a Ukraine jet had purposefully downed the Malaysian aircraft to serve as a pretext to implicate Russia, is unclear. But it also means that yet another conspiracy theory becomes fact: namely that whoever were the western powers who doctored and manipulated the “official” crash report of MH-17 to implicate Putin, not only lied but fabricated evidence.

Immediately upon realization just how serious the implications of this slip are, the damage control started, but it was too late. From the LA Times:

Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans apologized on Thursday for making the revelation on a television talk show the previous night, before the families of the 298 victims of the disaster had been notified of the disturbing discovery.

 

Timmermans gave an emotional speech at the United Nations four days after the crash in which he imagined the terrified passengers exchanging glances “one final time, in an unarticulated goodbye.”

 

When talk show host Jeroen Pauw interviewed Timmermans on Wednesday night, he provoked the minister with accusations that he had dramatized the victims’ last moments as a preliminary investigation report suggests that the Boeing 777’s destruction was so swift that those on board were unlikely to have known anything was amiss.

 

“They did not see the rocket coming, but you know someone was found with an oxygen mask on his mouth?” Timmermans replied, according to the NL Times translation of his comments.  “He thus had the time to do that. We cannot rule it out.”

Well, actually we did not know because the official report that your country released Mr. Timmermans, and which we posted a month ago said that “high-energy objects from outside the aircraft” struck the airplane as it flew at an altitude of 33,000 feet, suggesting it had been struck by a missile.

Nothing on the flight data or cockpit voice recorders indicated the crew or passengers took any action in response to the fatal impact.

Which means the entire report is a fabrication.

So what did happen?

The mask found around the neck of the unnamed passenger, one of 88 Australian citizens and residents on board, was tested for fingerprints, saliva and DNA but produced no forensic evidence, De Bruin said. “So it is not known how or when that mask got around the neck of the victim,” he said.

 

The discovery of the mask and the implications it raised about the passengers’ final moments were conveyed to the Australian’s family before Timmermans’ interview on Wednesday night, the prosecutor’s office said. But information was sent out to other family members of the MH-17 victims only on Thursday morning.

Timmermans issued a statement Thursday saying he regretted making the comment. We are confident that everyone else in the false-flag waving Western camp very much regretted Timmermans’ comment as well.