President Putin’s plane might have been the target for Ukrainian missile – sources
Edited time: July 17, 2014 19:03
Malaysian Airlines MH17 plane was travelling almost the same route as Russia’s President Vladimir Putin’s jet shortly before the crash that killed 295, Interfax news agency reports citing sources.
LIVE UPDATES:Malaysia Airlines MH17 plane crash in Ukraine
“I can say that Putin’s plane and the Malaysian Boeing intersected at the same point and the same echelon. That was close to Warsaw on 330-m echelon at the height of 10,100 meters. The presidential jet was there at 16:21 Moscow time and the Malaysian aircraft – 15:44 Moscow time,” a source told the news agency on condition of anonymity.
“The contours of the aircrafts are similar, linear dimensions are also very similar, as for the coloring, at a quite remote distance they are almost identical”, the source added.
President Putin was on his way from Brazil, where he attended the BRICS summit, to Moscow.
Flight MH17 crashed in Ukraine on a flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpar, and was carrying 295 people.
The passenger Boeing-777 was expected to enter Russian airspace at 5:20pm local time, but never did, a Russian aviation industry source was cited by Reuters.
“The plane crashed 60km away from the border, the plane had an emergency beacon,” ITAR-TASS cited its source.
Now that right there…that’s interesting.
Kiev deployed powerful surface-to-air missile systems to E. Ukraine ahead of the Malaysian plane crash – reports
Published time: July 17, 2014 18:35
The Ukrainian military reportedly deployed a battery of Buk surface-to-air missile systems, capable of bringing down high-flying jets, to the Donetsk region the day before the Malaysian passenger plane crashed in the area.
Itar-Tass and Interfax news agencies are citing a source familiar with the issue, who said that another battery of Buk systems is currently being prepared for shipment to Donetsk region from the Ukrainian city of Kharkov.
The Donetsk region remains the scene of heavy fighting between government troops and the forces of the opposition, which refused to recognize the regime change in Kiev and demand federalization.
A Malaysian Airlines aircraft en route from Amsterdam to Malaysia crashed in Eastern Ukraine – not far from the Russian border – on Thursday.
There were reportedly 280 people and 15 crew members on board the Boeing-777 plane, who reportedly all died in the crash.
There were unconfirmed reports the Malaysian plane was travelling at an altitude of over 10,000 meters when it was allegedly hit by a missile.
There’s no way that the self-defense forces in Donetsk Region are in possession of such complex weaponry, he stressed.
Only S-300 and Buk surface-to-air missile systems are capable of hitting targets at such altitude, the source said.
Buk (Blume) is a family of self-propelled, medium-range surface-to-air missile systems developed by the former USSR and Russia to engage targets at an altitude of up to 30 kilometers.
Chances are high that the Malaysian plane was really downed by the Ukrainian anti-aircraft defense, Yury Karash, pilot and aviation expert, told RT.
“A Boeing-777 is an extremely reliable piece of machinery. Modern planes don’t just crash with no reason,” he said. “Let us recall how a Ukrainian missile downed Russian TU-154 aircraft ten years ago. I can’t completely exclude the possibility the Boeing-777 was also hit by a missile.”
“I don’t know who could’ve shot it down. But I can allege that it was most likely the Ukrainian armed forces: simply because its military – anti-aircraft defense, in particular – are, unfortunately, unqualified. As judging by the overall state of the Ukrainian armed forces, insufficient attention has been paid to their training,” Karash added.
Reports in the Western media hurried to blame the self-defense forces of the People’s Republic of Donetsk for bringing the plane down.
The claims were denied by the representatives of the Donetsk People’s Republic, saying that it’s the Ukrainian military, which destroyed the aircraft.
“We simply don’t have such air defense systems. Our man-portable air defense systems have a firing range 3,000 – 4,000 meters. The Boeing was flying at a much higher altitude,” Sergey Kavtaradze, special representative for the prime minister of the Donetsk People’s Republic, explained.
Kavtaradze also expressed condolences to the relatives of all of those who lost their lives in the tragedy.
Israel just invaded the gaza. Coincidence?
Shit meet Fan
Israel Launches Ground Invasion Of Gaza
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 07/17/2014 15:21 -0400
While the mainstream media busily speculates on just which Russians (because they are sure it’s not the Ukrainians) shot the jet out of the sky, Al Jazeera, via Bloomberg, reports that Israel has decided not to let a crisis go to waste and invade Gaza:
ISRAEL GROUND INVASION OF GAZA HAS STARTED: AL JAZEERA
ISRAELI ARMY DECLINES TO COMMENT ON REPORT OF GROUND INVASION
The operation is reportedly on a wide scale.
HEAVY ARTILLERY FIRE, EXPLOSIONS, HEARD THROUGHOUT GAZA
As Blomberg reports,
Operation includes forces on ground, air, sea, Al Jazeera says, citing its own reporter.
Operation is on a wide scale: Al Jazeera
Israel Army declines to comment on the report when called by Bloomberg News
All of this was confirmed moments ago by none other than the Israel PM:
ISRAEL GROUND OPERATION IN GAZA HAS STARTED: PM OFFICE
NETANYAHU SAYS GROUND OPERATION TO DESTROY TUNNELS
NETANYAHU INSTRUCTS ARMY TO START GAZA GROUND INVASION
And Now The White House Is On Lockdown
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 07/17/2014 15:56 -0400
A day that couldn’t get any more bizarre, just did.
WHITE HOUSE PLACED ON LOCKDOWN, ABC NEWS TWEETS
Why, was Obama trying to run away?
Reports that Putin flew similar route as MH17, presidential airport says ‘hasn’t overflown Ukraine for long time’
http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/
Those groups in Lebanon will attack Israel on the north side .This could become a two front battle over night . Israel has by far the best military and best trained troops but those Muslims soldiers have the will to fight to the death.This could drag other nations into the conflict. We will see.
Joo population = 9 million
Arab, etc population = 300,000,000
Short of launching nukes, the mooslims COULD easily win a war of attrition. But, they won’t. They talk a mighty fine game of “Death to Infidels, Allah Akbar!” …. but, they are truly the world’s worst fighters. A bunch of pussies who won’t even take a bath.
Obama gives crash 40 seconds before telling jokes…
‘It looks like it may be a terrible tragedy’: Obama goes AWOL again with just 40-second mention of Malaysian plane crash feared to have killed Americans before his jokey 16-minute transport speech
Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 crashed in eastern Ukraine on Thursday, killing all 295 passengers on board
President Obama said his national security team is working on identifying the U.S. citizens – and then launched into jokes and 16 minutes of prepared remarks
Twitter erupted with digital eye-rolls at Obama’s curt mention of the ‘tragedy’ that the Ukrainian government quickly called a ‘criminal case’
House Speaker John Boehner offered a solemn statement, saying ‘many innocents were killed today. It is horrifying.’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696366/It-looks-like-terrible-tragedy-Obama-briefly-addresses-Malaysian-plane-crash-emerges-23-U-S-passengers-board.html#ixzz37m4Qhn9i
The world is but a hair triggers nudge away from erupting into WWIII.
But that slug of a dick licker faggot, yea that piece of shit, has several important fund raisers to attend.
Priorities you know!
this is really terrible and has made flying more unsafe
With isis on israels door, it must be a scary time. And muslims had better hope isis doesnt get into jerusalem or you can kiss the dome of the rock goodbye.
For all f you who find interest in or support the notion that the real target was Putin’s plane….exactly how gullible are you? This story was originally run on RT and received such outcry THEY even took it down.
Do you REALLY think showing the two jets has any consequence? Do you think they use binoculars to site a target? No, they use RADAR. And if they did use binoculars, then why did they go ahead and shoot down a commercial airliner?
People…please….. think.
AWD …. you are trying to make this about Obama? Really?
Tea Party Mantra:
1) Dominate the conversation
2) Make it about what YOU want it to be about
3) Lose elections
“People…please….. think.” ——– Peter Grenader
I promise I will ……. as soon as YOU start.