I hate that I have to teach my children to be vigilant when it comes to the police. My overall message is that they should be respectful, but to never trust them.
Imagine a group of people surrounding someone who isn’t doing anything violent or disruptive. All this person wants is to be left alone and mind his own business. The gang surrounding him, instead of minding its own business, jumps on him, chokes him, and then proceeds to smother him against the concrete until he dies. If you haven’t already figured it out, this really did happen. To Eric Garner. On July 17th, 2014 he was choked to death while attempting to have a conversation with the police.
The police officers themselves allege that Eric Garner was selling individual cigarettes tax-free, a non-violent act between consenting adults. This right here is exactly why you can never trust a police officer; because even when doing his job, he may in fact be enforcing unjust laws. Police officers also use violence with government immunity. It should come as no surprise that the officer who murdered Eric Garner isn’t going to be charged. Look at the organization he works for. Statists regularly steal money, threaten violence to anyone who doesn’t comply with their demands, and memorialize leaders who bring about death and destruction to the human race.
Hesitant at first, I ultimately showed the Eric Garner video to my oldest child. The intent was not to scare him or make him dislike the police, but to let him see the state for what it can be. I didn’t tell him who were the good guys and who were the bad guys. I just let him watch the video and waited for a dialog to begin.
My son kept asking: “Why are the police doing that? Why are they doing that to that man? What did he do? I told him we don’t know if he did anything, but it appears that the man just wants to be left alone.
After the takedown of Mr. Garner, my son, an innocent child, asked the most common sense question anyone should have after watching this encounter: “Daddy, are the police going to get in trouble?” Without any input from myself, my 5-year-old son was able to recognize who the aggressor was and who was in the wrong.
Yet, apparently a grand jury and a prosecutor cannot.
I simply left it at, “We don’t know, but I think they should get in trouble.” As a follow-up question, I asked him how he felt about people who attacked others without being attacked first. He said: “Dad, we don’t hit people.”
A thinking mind left to think is typically non-violent, not biased, and doesn’t try and justify wrongdoing.
However, a statist conditioned brain is biased. Some are in favor of the police, some see blacks in a negative light, violence is seen as the norm, and the death of an innocent man can be justified because, well, the extra dose of violence on that day was an accident.
It’s incidents like these that re-energize me to teach my children to think for themselves and to not give a blank check to anyone, including myself. I have to wonder about the people sitting on the grand jury. How much police bias was embedded within them to let this group of thugs off?
– Daniel Ameduri aka The Dissident Dad
For more info see this author’s bio.
“Imagine a group of people surrounding someone who isn’t doing anything violent or disruptive. All this person wants is to be left alone and mind his own business. The gang surrounding him, instead of minding its own business, jumps on him, chokes him, and then proceeds to smother him against the concrete until he dies. If you haven’t already figured it out, this really did happen. To Eric Garner. On July 17th, 2014 he was choked to death while attempting to have a conversation with the police.
No, that really didn’t happen, asshole…
I don’t give two shits about Garner. And I hate most cops. As far as I’m concerned, they’re sociopathic, ‘roided up bullies and dickheads whose sole allegiance is to the power elite, not you…
But I also advocate for truth.
If you’re going to try and get a child thinking for himself, then tell him the whole fucking story.
– Garner was 6’3″ and 350 lbs – morbidly obese.
– Garner suffered from heart disease, severe asthma, diabetes, obesity, and sleep apnea.
– Garner did not die on the sidewalk, as you are leading people to believe. He suffered a heart attack in the ambulance and was pronounced dead an hour later at the hospital.
Now, say what you want about taxation and I’ll probably support you. Say what you want about copfuks serving their own interests and those of the power elite, and I’m right there with ya.
But to get someone to make an objective decision, you have to tell them everything pertinent to the story. And what is pertinent is that Garner was a fat fuck suffering from half a dozen different ailments resulting from him being a fat fuck – the worst being heart disease.
Which is what he died from – NOT being choked to death…
But that doesn’t support your narrative, so you conveniently leave that out… and when talking to a 5 year old on top of it! That’s fucked up…
And you say you want the kid to think for himself… pfft…
t’s incidents like these that re-energize me to teach my children to think for themselves and to not give a blank check to anyone, including myself.
Yeah, well you won’t get one here either, asshole…
Nobody warned me that playing cards could get you killed but when the shots rang out in the bar across the street from the park (in Juarez) we learned that a man suspected the other of cheating and he took care of it al estilo Jalisco, ‘Jalisco style’ – like a man.
Because they sport guns, I have always regarded cops as a threat to be avoided. I read somewhere of a guy remembering a kid’s party in Juarez. He was swinging at a piñata without result when the policia drew his gun and shot the candy-filled orb. He said he got cut with a pottery shard. In those days, piñatas contained a cheap clay pot so that they required a really good whack to bust them.
Billy, you are so..emotional. Heh.
Billy – Assumig all you say is true, the cops still killed him. If you walked into a bank with a gun and yelled, “this is a stick up” and a 350 pound customer in ill health keeled over dead with a heart attack, youi would be charged with murder. So even if your narrative is true, the cops still killed him in the eyes of the law.
Re Billy: I hear what you’re saying, HOWEVER Garner would probably still be alive today had the cops not put him in a headlock for no good reason.
“Garner was 6’3″ and 350 lbs – morbidly obese.” ——- Billy
Totally irrelevant. Not worth discussing.
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“Garner suffered from heart disease, severe asthma, diabetes, obesity, and sleep apnea.” ——- Billy
Totally irrelevant. Not worth discussing.
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“Garner did not die on the sidewalk, as you are leading people to believe. He suffered a heart attack in the ambulance and was pronounced dead an hour later at the hospital.” ——- Billy
Yeah, right. That this fatso / sicko lived his entire life up to that point without a heart attack is …. is, ummm … totally irrelevant, right? That he suffered a heart attack within a few minutes AFTER being choked and manhandled, well, … that’s just a fuckin’ coincidence. Right.
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Jeesus. You’ve been gone for a week or so. Where were you? The Dumb-shit Farm?
Totally irrelevant. Not worth discussing.
Why? Because you say so?
Phht.. nobody voted you fucking King…
Yeah, right. That this fatso / sicko lived his entire life up to that point without a heart attack is …. is, ummm … totally irrelevant, right? That he suffered a heart attack within a few minutes AFTER being choked and manhandled, well, … that’s just a fuckin’ coincidence. Right.
Jeezus you’re being intentionally obtuse today…
My problem is with this -> “On July 17th, 2014 he was choked to death while attempting to have a conversation with the police.” – Dicksmack Dissident Dad, Mike Krieger
No, he fucking wasn’t choked to death…
He was a fat fuck with a shitload of health issues that became all-too-apparent when one asshole, overzealous copfuk put a lock on his fat ass and took him down, which resulted in his overstressed heart (overstressed because he was a FUCKING FATASS) blowing a fuse, resulting in his death an hour later…
I never, at any fucking point, absolved the copfuk for anything. Dicksmack Dissident Dad completely made up that “choked to death” bullshit…
If he would have said “Hey, he put that fat fuck in an outlawed hold, which probably exacerbated his medical conditions (conditions that he had as a result of being a fat fuck), which cause him to have a heart attack” we wouldn’t be having this conversation…
Everyone here is being relativistic in an effort to flambe me for defending the copfuk – which I am NOT… the point apparently being “dead is dead, so what difference does it make?”
It makes a shitload of difference. You’ve got Pete playing the “dead is dead” card while not realizing his own narrative shoots him down – being as the cop, to be criminally negligent, the grand jury would have had to determine that he knew there was a “substantial risk” that Garner would have died due to the takedown. How he would know that ahead of time is anyone’s guess…
Westcoaster is playing Karnak the Great by fortelling the future – there’s no way of knowing if he’d be alive or not. Being as the guy had a rap sheet 30 arrests long, was out on bail for several other charges, etc, it wasn’t like dude was late for a knitting circle when the cops jumped him… you don’t know, and neither do I.
Then there’s Stucky, willing to throw me under the bus because I made the observation that Dicksmack Dad totally fucking LIED and said “choked to death”, which is bullshit… observing that someone fucking lied is not defending the asshole who caused him to have a heart attack, dumbass…
Fuck all y’all….
The cops have been given special legal authority, and a set of guide lines.
Once a cop wants to arrest you – you need to comply. You can’t have ‘court’ on the street corner. If you believe you have been arrested illegaly, your going to have to go to court.
It wasn’t 1 cop – it was 5 cops. When 5 cops tell you “you are under arrest” – this guy was a moron for arguing.
I think if they would have used a taser – he still would have died. He is responsible for this.
Billy hasn’t changed his stripes, I take his commentary in stride. I agree that Garner would still be alive if not for that confrontation. My theory is he had an asthma attack, he kept saying he couldn’t breathe. Someone said that if he couldn’t breathe he wouldn’t say anything but asthmatics say that when they are having an attack. Low oxygen may have provoked a heart attack. How far down do we have to drill?
There was a Mexican socialite who died of fright when kidnappers attempted a ‘sequestro express’ – a mini kidnap – where victims are held for a small ransom and released quickly. Do you suppose the kidnappers should not be held accountable for scaring her to death? The public did not absolve them, the kidnappers provoked her fright and in Garner’s case the cops provoked the heart attack.
@Billy – If I assaulted said individual and he died within the hour in the hospital then I’d at minimum be charged with manslaughter.
The police will get off with a stern warning to make sure there are no cameras rolling when such an event occurs, and that will be that.
Billy and Dutchman discussing the Eric Garner case.
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@ Chemist,
I’m not arguing that the cops are not culpable.
I don’t know how many fucking times I can say this… I AM >NOTNOT< ON THEIR SIDE.
Jeezus Khrist…. this is infuriating…
Chemist, I agree with you… if it were you or me or anyone else, we would be crucified on Live TV, ground up and fed to some stray dogs….
My one – AND ONLY – point is that Garner was NOT CHOKED TO DEATH.
To choke someone to death means to strangle them until they are dead by asphyxiation. That did… not… happen…. dude died of a heart attack an hour after being put in that lock…
This is not to say that the copfuks are not culpable… I think they are, and should be chucked in jail. Made an example of. But saying that they “choked him to death” is a blatant lie. Ignoring everything else – like his history of heart disease and other illnesses – is just as bad.
EC makes some comments – apparently I’m too “emotional”, and then some shit about not changing my stripes and all of a sudden ‘someone’ posts some Klan shit about me and Dutch…
Yep.. totally coincidental…
“Why? Because you say so? Phht.. nobody voted you fucking King… ”
Nope. Not because I said so. Not because I’m king. But, because a person’s height and weight is simply not relevant. I know that’s repeating what I originally said but, there’s just no simpler way to put it. I mean, really, let’s say he was 6’0″, 185 pounds, and went to the gym everyday …. what the fuck would it matter?
No one is throwing you under a bus.
You are making a mountain out of a molehill regarding “choked to death”. OK, he wasn’t choked to death. Hope you’re happy now. He was still killed — murdered, imho — by the copfuks. Will you admit that? If so, I’ll be happy.
Truth be told, I was probably more pissed off about your calling Dissident Dad ‘asshole’. DD is a fine Libertarian and just recently another of his articles was posted here — “When Your Church Becomes a Place of Statist Worship”. OIt was a great piece. Not everyone who thinks differently than you is an asshole, Billy.
You are making a mountain out of a molehill regarding “choked to death”. OK, he wasn’t choked to death. Hope you’re happy now. He was still killed — murdered, imho — by the copfuks. Will you admit that? If so, I’ll be happy. – Stuck
Did I not just say to Chemist “This is not to say that the copfuks are not culpable… I think they are, and should be chucked in jail. Made an example of.”?
I seem to remember saying that at some point… I did say that, didn’t I? I must remember it because I wrote it! Oh yeah! Hey look Stucky! There it is, right there!
Are you really going to make me go look up the Webster’s Definition of “culpable”?
“Truth be told, I was probably more pissed off about your calling Dissident Dad ‘asshole’. (snip) Not everyone who thinks differently than you is an asshole, Billy.”
No, but fucking LYING makes someone an asshole. I found out how Garner died with all of one minute’s worth of effort involved. DDD’s intentional mis-statement of the truth is… wait for it… a LIE. Now that we have established that he fucking LIED, the only question remains is “why?”
Personally, I think he went out of his way to “mis-state the truth” to support his own position. That I agree with his position about copfuks puts me in a bind – I actually agree with what he says, but that doesn’t mean I’m willing to give the guy a pass when he does shit like that… the ONLY way a person can maintain a position of righteousness is to specifically NOT do shit like oh… lie to inflame people’s emotions and get behind your position…
Even if dude’s position is righteous, he shot himself in the foot by alleging that the copfuk “choked him to death”… which amounts to strangling. I’m willing to bet that DDD knew how Garner died, but chose to use “choked to death” because it sounds worse… which makes him no better than those he rails against…
Which makes him an asshole…. sorry, but that’s the way it is.
“lie to inflame people’s emotions and get behind your position… ”
Should read: “lie to inflame people’s emotions and so get them behind your position…”
Was typing fast… oops.
…saw this from following the link to DD’s bio…my father having passed on Nov. 2 made this vid was particularity poignant for me .Dissident Dad’s bio….worth a viewing fer’ shure’
28 Thousand Days Intro
I’m suffering from black negroow exposure. I don’t care about him.The cops in NYC could do it a million times and I wouldn’t care.My heart has grown cold .Am I to emotional?
Congratulations Billy, you win the dumb shit of the day award. My favorite part, is when others of intellect point out the many shortcomings in your nonsensical diatribe, you continue to pile on more and more dumb-assed statements. Keep ’em coming, very entertaining!
Congratulations Billy, you win the dumb shit of the day award. Pussy Mike
Lick my ball sack.
I’m guessing you’re knob-slobbing DD because I pointed out something blatantly wrong? That he said some untrue shit and I called him on it?
My favorite part, is when others of intellect point out the many shortcomings in your nonsensical diatribe, you continue to pile on more and more dumb-assed statements.”
Yep, you’re definitely slobbing that knob… that you consider yourself part of the statement “others of intellect” would be hilarious if it weren’t so fucking pathetic.
Tell me, oh Great Intellectual Goat Fucker of Why-oming, what “shortcomings” were those? Using quotes of mine from this thread, point out where I am wrong. List them. You say there are “shortcomings” – meaning more than one – then you should have no problem listing them. Should only take a few seconds for someone of your vast “intellect”….
Keep ‘em coming, very entertaining!
Not as entertaining as you fucking goats, Why-oming Pussy Mike…
But hey, point out where I was – am – wrong. Go on ahead. You like talking shit. Backstop it.
Captain Read-4-Comprehension, never said I was part of the “I’m smarter than Billy group”, however obvious that may be. Another internet tough guy pussy. LOL. Sad little man. I don’t have to point it out, been pointed out, if you can read, that is. Sad.
@ Why-oming Pussy Mike
Captain Read-4-Comprehension, never said I was part of the “I’m smarter than Billy group”, however obvious that may be.
No. No you didn’t. You directly inferred it with your “others of intellect” remark, of which you consider yourself a part.
Nice try at weaseling out of it, though. Points for weasel-effort. But points subtracted for such an obviously transparent attempt…
Another internet tough guy pussy. LOL. Sad little man.
Compared to you, Elton John is a monument to testosterone… not hard to accomplish when one considers what you are…
I don’t have to point it out, been pointed out, if you can read, that is. Sad.
Translation: I stepped on my dick earlier and now that I’ve been called on it, I can’t backstop my own bullshit statements…. so, I’ll sniff and pretend that I’m above actually proving the bullshit I allege and crawl off, hoping nobody notices… .
Nice try, pussy.
Go back to fucking goats.
I am enjoying that someone beside BB and I are in the running for dumb suit of the day….thanks BILLY.
Bb- that is not to say that your above comment wasn’t dumber than owl shit.
That would be dumb shit….not dumb suit…sorry.
Billy, fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life. Dumbass. Peace.
Billy, fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.
Hey Why-oming Pussy? 1978 called. Dean Wormer of Faber College wants his line back.
Try to come up with something original… or at least funny. But, that might be asking a bit much from you…
Dumbass. Peace.
Eat my shit. With chopsticks.
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I agree that details matter but let’s not lose sight of the main point. Nobody should die as the result of dumb incidents like this. Selling a fucking cigarette. Shit…In my opinion, I’m not sure he deliberately states that or he just doesn’t know and is repeating what he’s heard. Only he knows…
One more thing I forgot to say….I suppose that as a writer you have to be very careful. Otherwise, omitting details like these can be open to interpretation as to your possible motives even if it’s a mistake. I suppose we are used to being told half truths so even when possibly not intentional it makes us be distrustful, since we already are.
“Did I not just say to Chemist “This is not to say that the copfuks are not culpable” —- Billy
Yes, you did. But, if you look at your post and my post …. they are 3 minutes apart. I was writing while you posted your comment to Chemist.
Folks, we have to give Billy credit here. No, I am not sucking up to him! FACT is, either Garner was “choked to death”, or he was not. There’s no middle ground. It surely does appear that Garner did not die DIRECTLY from choking. So, Billy’s original point is 100% correct.
On Wednesday, a New York grand jury refused to indict Officer Daniel Pantaleo in the death of 43-year-old Eric Garner. Pantaleo is white; Garner is black. That one fact meant that the President of the United States and the Mayor of New York City took to the microphones to denounce American racism. President Obama talked about the “concern on the part of too many minority communities that law enforcement is not working with them and dealing with them in a fair way.” De Blasio went further, of course, calling for “action” and suggesting that the incident represented the culmination of “centuries of racism.”
Unlike the Michael Brown killing in Ferguson, Missouri, there is excellent cause for concern here. But that concern does not mean that facts of the case ought to become irrelevant.
The Case. The incident was caught on tape by a friend of Garner’s, and shows Garner, who weighed some 400 lbs., being confronted by police over distributing unlicensed cigarettes (colloquially called “loosies”). The video shows Garner resisting arrest, although not violently so – he shouts at officers, “Every time you see me you want to arrest me, I’m tired of this, this stops today…I didn’t do nothing…I’m minding my business, officer…” while waving his arms animatedly — before Pantaleo comes up behind him and places his left arm around Garner’s neck, bringing his right arm up below Garner’s right arm. Garner raises his hands, falling backwards, at which point three other officers physically grab Garner. He falls to the ground, Pantaleo hanging onto his back with his arm still around Garner’s neck. The officers tell Garner to put his hands behind his head, and Garner complains that he cannot breathe. Pantaleo forces Garner’s head to the cement. It is clear that witnesses do not believe Garner has been put in mortal danger.
Garner died a few minutes later.
The autopsy from the medical examiner attributed his death to homicide – meaning death at the hands of another party, not murder, in medical parlance – and stated that he died thanks to “Compression of neck (choke hold), compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police.” But the autopsy further noted that Garner died thanks to acute and chronic bronchial asthma, obesity, and heart disease.
The Charges. First off, it is vital to note that nobody knows exactly the charges filed with the grand jury against Pantaleo. According to ABC News, the charges could have included “second-degree manslaughter, criminally negligent homicide, felony assault, reckless endangerment.” The charges matter, since each individual charge carries with it requirements for different elements. As Professor Eugene O’Donnell of the John Jay Criminal College of Criminal Justice wrote in The New York Daily News:
As a practical matter — on the basis of past cases — the grand jury would likely indict only if it found malice or some intention to hurt Mr. Garner or that a gross disregard for Mr. Garner’s well-being is what created the tragic ending during this routine arrest. Finding that the officer was careless or that the arrest was bungled will not rise to the level of a crime.
The Arrest. It is vital to separate out the actions of the police from the rationale for their action. That’s because by virtually any logic, it is the height of irresponsibility and depravity for a man to end up dead for selling loose cigarettes. The law that led to this confrontation was pressed forward by former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg; Garner had been arrested some eight times for selling “loosies.” As Lawrence McQuillan reported in The Washington Times:
In January 2014, tough new penalties for selling untaxed cigarettes took effect in New York City. In July, emboldened by the new law, the city’s highest-ranking uniformed cop, Philip Banks, issued an order to crack down on loosie sales days before Garner died.
So in terms of police cracking down on Garner, the real responsibility lies with Bloomberg and NYPD Chief Bill Bratton. Idiot laws lead to meaningless deaths.
The “Chokehold.” At issue in this case is the so-called “chokehold” used by Pantaleo. Chokeholds have been banned by the NYPD entirely since 1993; chokeholds are typically defined as holds that prevent people from breathing. Thanks to the video showing Garner stating that he cannot breathe, many pundits have wrongly suggested that Pantaleo was “choking” Garner by depriving him of air from his windpipe. Bratton himself suggested that Pantaleo used a “chokehold,” which is defined by the NYPD as “any pressure to the throat or windpipe, which may prevent or hinder breathing or reduce intake of air.”
That does not appear to have been the case. Garner did not die of asphyxiation, as the head of the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association noted at the time. The preliminary autopsy showed no damage to Garner’s windpipe or neck bones.
So what was Pantaleo doing? He was applying a submission hold, which is not barred by the NYPD, and is designed to deprive the brain of oxygen by stopping blood flow through the arteries. So say the experts on submission holds.
It appears that the so-called chokehold was instrumental in triggering Garner’s pre-existing health problems and causing his death, but Garner was not choked to death, as the media seems to maintain. According to Garner’s friends, he “had several health issues: diabetes, sleep apnea, and asthma so severe that he had to quit his job as a horticulturist for the city’s parks department. He wheezed when he talked and could not walk a block without resting, they said.”
Excessive Force. There is no clear and concise guideline available on excessive force. According to Mark Henriquez, project manager for the National Police Use of Force Database Project at the International Association of Chiefs of Police, only .44 percent of all force complaints were considered excessive from 1994-1998.
So, in deciding whether a grand jury should have indicted Garner, we should assess the following questions:
Was there any intent by the officers to kill Garner? That would certainly be an uphill case to make, as the grand jury likely found.
Did the “chokehold” kill Garner, or did his pre-existing health conditions kill him? If Garner had otherwise been healthy, would he have died from use of the “chokehold”?
If not, would use of the “chokehold” have been reckless?
Was the use of the “chokehold” reasonable use of force rather than excessive use of force? Was the “chokehold” necessary to subdue him?
Unfortunately, in situations like the Garner case, our gut tends to overwhelm our assessment of the facts. We are sickened, as we should be, by the idea that a man died over sale of loose cigarettes – which is an indictment of the law, rather than of the police. We are sickened by the fact that a man died while warning officers he could not breathe – but we must assess whether that death was caused by the officers, or intervening medical conditions.
When people’s lives are at stake, it is worthwhile to actually examine those facts, rather than pre-conceived narratives constructed for political gain. And it is worthwhile noting that even if the police did use excessive force against Garner – which, of course, is quite possible – that still does not establish that they did so for racial reasons.
Ben Shapiro is Senior Editor-At-Large of Breitbart News and author.
Then why did the lame stream media fail to report it was his 9th offense for selling cigarettes and that he was not choked to death there on the sidewalk? My opinion is there is a orchestrated effort to have a race war in America to coincide with other major events as they begin the economic collapse.
Sticky says: Yeah, right. That this fatso / sicko lived his entire life up to that point without a heart attack is …. is, ummm … totally irrelevant, right? That he suffered a heart attack within a few minutes AFTER being choked and manhandled, well, … that’s just a fuckin’ coincidence. Right.
Stucky people have heart attacks everyday and have never been sick a day in their life.
This man was very sick and brittle. He was forced to quit his job because his health was so poor. If AWD were here he would tell you this individual comorbidities placed him at a very high risk for a life threatening event, he was living on borrowed time.
Stucky says fucking spell check
This man most likely slept in a recliner every night. In his condition,and the shape his lungs were in, he would not be able to sleep laying down. He in no way shape or form could stand even the most gentle take down.
Yes he was breaking the law, but the poor bastard was trying to make aliittle money the only way he could. The problem is the fucking law.
Hey, what do you think the make up of the Grand Jury was? Is not that area highly Dimocratic?
Bea ,I don’t care what you think either. One less parasite neegroow to feed and support. If it was the other way around these negroows would at laughing at your stupid white ass.You people don’t understand how much these blacks hate your ASSES.You will soon enough.
Wyoming Mike ,so you’re a goat fucker to.Damn that makes 3 on this site alone.You do know fucking goats is frowned upon by GOD?
Blame the cops,blame the stupid law, blame Blumberg or Deblasio. NO, blame ourselves we voted for it. We deserve what we are getting.
@ Stucky…
For what it’s worth… thanks.
Also for what it’s worth, this is how I feel every time I come here… 🙂
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Oh Billah
That picture from the interweb is so rich and full of meanin. You rock google searches like the big Billah badass you are.
Hon, a negro all dandied up in suit n tie made it onter the porch this mornin. He was pandering his negroid religion and I tol him, I says, ‘monkey boy, get oft the porch.’ I tol Billy Jr ter git up and choke him out but he tol me bedsores or no, any negros getting choked on the porch he ain’t having nothin to do with. Hes very soft after jamal done tore his heart in two. Anyways, yer still an idiot, but I lurv yer white trash idiosyncratic behaveyers. Do me a favor and pick up two cans of crisco. That boil in mah belly button gonna require an extry lube job.
Boyakasha!
What a waste of time this thread is, given Admin’s tour de force posted today.
You fucks couldn’t spell cat if I spotted you the C and the A.
Dutchman says:
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“Once a cop wants to arrest you – you need to comply. You can’t have ‘court’ on the street corner. If you believe you have been arrested illegaly, your going to have to go to court.
It wasn’t 1 cop – it was 5 cops. When 5 cops tell you “you are under arrest” – this guy was a moron for arguing.”
Bingo! That is the crux of this incident. For a person (Garner) who was arrested 31 times in the past, he of all people should have known how to comply when threatened with arrest. Perhaps this time he’d just plain and simple had had enough and resisted. But that was his fatal mistake.
Dutch, as of this posting, 5 people gave you a thumb’s down. I’d love to see any/all of those 5 try to resist arrest and see where it get’s them.
Billy says:
EC makes some comments – apparently I’m too “emotional”, and then some shit about not changing my stripes and all of a sudden ‘someone’ posts some Klan shit about me and Dutch…
1. I made a light joke directed at Billy, never said shit about him being ‘too’ emotional, nothing that hasn’t been said before in different ways and kaboom! did you see I added ‘heh’ that means I’m fucking with you.
2. the stripes comment was directed at Stucky, meaning that is a typical Billy POV, I was also defending Billy from the dumbshit farm accusation.
3. I even accepted Billy’s assertion that the dude was not choked to death but rather died of a heart attack.
4. I don’t post pics, videos yes, pics no. Too much trouble. If I was to post pics, they would be chick pics. Dang, I miss AWD.
7. Llpoh, I suspect admin posts these racially controversial topics to provoke the emotions.
8. Billy, don’t let it get to you. Jeez, don’t have a coronary
RU, ru flip-flopping? I thought you said you were a rebel.
Billah’s wife posts at 9:39 PM
Llpoh posts at 9:41
hmmmmmm ……,
Not me. Admin would’ve dropped me in it by now – rat fink that he is.
“@ Stucky… For what it’s worth… thanks” ——– Billy
No problem but, no thanks necessary.
I misunderstood your original point. I was wrong, you were right … and I have no problem admitting either one.
I’m done for the day. Llpoh says this thread is a waste of time, so I’m going to bed.
It was all stupid. I can only imagine what his grave marker could say.
Killed over a few loose smokes.
I guess i should have given that cop,one for free.
How free are you? Really?
Llpoh, you have got Admin all wrong, he categorically refused to out anybody even when folks were busy begging him to out BW. One slip and soon he’d be narc’ing on everybody. He has our email and personal info don’t you know?
I don’t unnerstan all the intrigue. I am Billah’s wife. Period. Afore that I was his lover, an afore that his sister. Y’all need ta stop hatin.