NEW GREEK FINANCE MINISTER TELLS THE TRUTH

I find it absolutely stunning whenever a government official tells the unvarnished blunt truth. Do you loan someone more money when they don’t have the means to repay what they have borrowed already? The evilness of central bankers is revealed in this short exchange. It’s time to end Wimpy economics.

Greece’s New FinMin Explains “This Is What Happens When You Humiliate A Nation & Give It No Hope”

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“This is not blackmail,” explains new Greek Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis, “we simply want to end this seemingly never-ending Greek Crisis.” In what must be worryingly calm and simple to comprehend words for Brussels, Varoufakis tells CNBC’s Michelle Caruso-Cabrera, “this is what happens when you humiliate a nation and don’t give it any hope.” Carefully noting that membership in the Euro is not imperative, Varoufakis concludes “bankruptcy cannot be dealt with by borrowing more,” asking rhetorically, “how can I look the German and Finnish taxpayer in the eye and tell them you know I can’t really pay you the money I have already borrowed from you…” but lend me more so I can pay back the ECB?

 

As Varoufakis explains, he believes Europe is willing to negotiate haircuts – anything else appears a waste of time.

(our apologies for the audio quality)

 

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Westcoaster
Westcoaster
January 27, 2015 10:08 pm

Maybe we’re really all saying the same thing.”Fuck the Banksters”-(as Friday would say) Isn’t that about it, Maam?

ottomatik
ottomatik
January 27, 2015 10:30 pm

BUCHEAD’s comment “This guy may be fish food soon.As John Perkins said in Confessions Of An Economic Hitman….now they’ll send in the jackals. ” dovetails nicely with Admins comment.
But the world grows tired of the IMF jackals, and Greece, Portugal, Italy, France, and Ireland are not Ecuador or Panama. All eyes are on Southern Europe, IMF, BIS(and henchmen) tracks are everywhere, the theft and looting clear.
2015 is going to be epic.

starfcker
starfcker
January 27, 2015 11:35 pm

I missed a great discussion here. Great subject. I see myself as a conservative, yet i want to see syriza succeed, socialist or not. And i hope their courage spreads across europe. The problems we have nowadays have been solved in the past by world wars. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that. Who would be free/must themselves strike the blow

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
January 28, 2015 12:42 am

They should repudiate their debt completely.What’s Germany et al going to do – confiscate the country? They wouldn’t have the stomach to try that again. Sure ,Greece could be forced off of the Euro and their economy could tank. So what? They’d have greater control of their own destiny if they had their own currency. The whole Euro concept was/is a bunch of bullshit born of the idea that they could create a United States of Europe. The project was based on an inferiority complex – especially among the French, who fancy themselves some sort of superpower. Ceding national soverignty to Brussels wasn’t a mark of a confident country, it was the mark of a country (and countries) completely lacking in self-esteem. Switzerland didn’t fall for it, leaving them the ability to manipulate their currency (for good or ill). Once Greece adopts the drachma again, it’ll be up to them to try to live within their means, hack back the social safety net, entitlements and the size and scope of government. They won’t do it. They’re Greece. They’ll still have the olives, the sunshine, the beaches and even good skiing.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
January 28, 2015 12:44 am

Note to self: Countries to never lend to: Greece, Mexico, Argentina, Jamaica….and most of the rest, especially those with palm trees.

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
January 28, 2015 10:58 am

And so it begins…

Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
January 28, 2015 5:33 pm

Actually I think Llpoh, Stucky, Admin, most here are on the same page: Everyone should be responsible for their own shit. That means Greece, that means the banksters, that means us (both us and the U.S.).

– Greece was not responsible: Default, go off the euro, suffer the consequences.
– The bankers were not responsible: Should have (almost had to) know that the Greek books were B.S.
– The U.S. is not responsible, not Japan, the E.U. ad nasuem with all the money creation out of thin air.
– We are not responsible being people alive on this Earth that are trying to act personally responsible but letting our govt’s get away with this shit (yeah, I know a whole other debate about prudence and what actions we should personally take).

Llpoh, I applaud you for taking steps to remove yourself in the next (however long) from the increasingly untenable situation you have many times described. I wish you the best and hope your plans to move and be done with it come through and that your new situation puts you in a more sustainable place long term. My wife and I have done the same. We will see how much our actions matter (meaning in repositioning) as time goes on. Obviously I think they will matter.

llpoh
llpoh
January 28, 2015 6:16 pm

Thanks, Didius. Pretty soon I am planning on being a non-involved spectator as the shit hits the fan.

Re this issue, I suspect you are right – the differences between our various positions are actually very slight. We are pretty much just arguing over who is most responsible. There is plenty of blame to go around.

I think Iska’s comment re “Note to self: Countries to never lend to: Greece, Mexico, Argentina, Jamaica” is quite accurate. Those fucks cannot organize a bake sale much less run a country.

llpoh
llpoh
January 28, 2015 6:31 pm

Admin – that will work. Just remember to bring the Scotch. No Irish whisky.

Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
January 28, 2015 7:10 pm

As for admin, Llpoh (I already invited Stucky on another thread), if you get a hankering to see New Zealand, you are welcome to stay with us while in the Wellington area. Fair warning: There is a high probability you will really really like it!

Just bring some good booze per llpoh’s suggestion. My wife is partially to really nice Tequila. I just recently discovered Laphroaig and really like it (http://www.laphroaig.com/) among other vices. If either if you like good red wine, the Australian Shiraz we have been able to easily get over here is mind blowing if you like full bodied rich smoky wines, never saw it in the U.S. but we have also expanded our palate quite a bit since being here.

One down side at some point (may have even been on TBP where I saw it), recently read about all the ultra rich and their get away spots with New Zealand being one of their favorites in that regard. Well, if a bunch of them end up here when TSHTF, I don’t think regular Kiwis are too apt to take their shit, this is a refreshingly non-PC, speak your mind, hunting, not much tolerance for B.S. culture here (although I do see numerous signs of corruption by the same forces as in the U.S., just seems to be not near as far advanced. My favorite example for being behind the times in a good way (other than hunting being really big over here) is they still have shooting clubs in high school over here and everyone is cool with it and little kids still go to school unattended by parents the way they did in the U.S. when we were little, they are allowed to play unsupervised and are polite!.

Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
January 28, 2015 7:10 pm

Above invite means both admin and llpoh.

Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
January 28, 2015 7:20 pm

Admin, which rums are you partial to? Just now getting into different rums.

llpoh
llpoh
January 28, 2015 7:22 pm

Didius – many thanks! NZ is on my bucket list for sure. Transited through a couple times but never had time to explore.

Re Scotch, Laphroaig is very nice. My favorites are Lagavulin (for a peaty Scotch in the Laphroaig vein), and for less full bodied sipping Highland Park.

You will not be disappointed in either of those.

Australian shirazes are generally too fruit bomb for me. I prefer Cabernet and nice southern European reds myself – nice chianti, brunellos, tempranillos, etc.

llpoh
llpoh
January 28, 2015 7:32 pm

Re rum, when I lived in the hell hole Puerto Rico, the only thing that made it livable was very nice $2/bottle rum. Don Q was the general drink of choice.

I do not know much about good rum. I have had some mata rata, tho – rat killer rum. That is pure rotgut to match any cheap bourbon out there.

I have taken to creating my own gin – take a cheap bottle of vodka (filtering it through charcoal filter a few times turns it into very good vodka) and then steep some botanicals in a couple of cups of it (juniper, coriander, cubeb, ginger, lemon peel, cassis, cinnamon, etc. to your preference.). Then I simply use the steeped “gin” to flavor G+Ts (say half an ounce of steeped to say an ounce of filtered vodka), etc. You can make the flavor as strong or mild as you want. I find it better than store bought gin as you can adjust to personal tastes, and a lot cheaper than the expensive gins. One of those hobbies of mine I mentioned.

Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
January 28, 2015 7:34 pm

Hi Llpoh,

We definitely try the Lagavulin and Highland Park, I really like the peaty taste. I know what you mean and that is what I thought before I tried some of our favorites, they are as complex, full of tannins, smoky, dark chocolate, etc. as my favborite cabs, tempranillos/riojas, and chianti. Ones to try include Mojo, Metala, Chocolate Box (also produce a mean cab), Penfolds Bin 28, Yalumba “The Cigar”. I suspect you will like any of those.

Would appreciate a few chianti and brunellos recommendations, I have not tasted enough of those to figure out which ones fit the robust deep flavors I like (when I did it was in a rare restaurant and I blew it by not remembering).

Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
January 28, 2015 7:38 pm

Llpoh, sounds like a good way to make “gin” (or better, infused vodka).

I am about to take the plunge and make my first batch of beer. The craft beer scene is big here. I am going to concentrate on perfecting a very very rare bread: A highly spicey, dry fairly high alcohol (for beer, maybe 7 or 8 %) ginger beer. Only one I have found over here slightly approaches that profile, the others are more typical alcoholic ginger sodas.

Stucky
Stucky
January 28, 2015 7:40 pm

BIG Tequilla fan here. The best I can afford is $50 Petron. Very good.

But, YOU can afford this $500 bottle of Petron
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Top 10 Tequilas
http://www.gayot.com/spirits/top10tequilas/tres-quatro-cinco-anejo.html

Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
January 28, 2015 7:42 pm

Admin, my wife likes (and I do too) this tequila:

1800 Reserva Reposado 100% blue agave, aged in American and French oak barrels for six months[3]
or
1800 Reserva Añejo 100% blue agave, aged in French Oak barrels for three years[3]

Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
January 28, 2015 7:43 pm

That Petron is good (talking about the cheaper stuff). I think I wold not be too happy to buy that expensive bottle, rather pout that much into 10 bottles of the cheaper or mix and match with some of the other beverages discussed so far! 🙂

Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
January 28, 2015 7:47 pm

Here is an apparently excellent Australian rum in the 125th anniversary edition (originally cost only $1200 a bottle!!) Would love to have that..

http://www.bundabergrumshowcase.com.au/125.html
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Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
January 28, 2015 8:24 pm

Admin – Coruba seems to be the favorite rum over here (I think it is similar to Cruzan that you mentioned), we have a couple bottle, one of the dark one with black strap molasses over tones and one of the more golden colored ones. Both good!

http://www.coruba.co.nz/History/The-History.aspx