A Fredericksburg police officer recently resigned, following claims of police brutality, a video released on Saturday shows the incident in which the officer tasers and pepper-sprays an innocent black man suffering from a medical emergency, before forcing him to the ground next to his car which ran over the man’s foot.
The man, David Washington, had previously struck another car and responded slowly to the armed officers that arrived to the scene, as he had suffered from a stroke.
…there needs to be a national registry of people who should NEVER be allowed to work in “law enforcement.
In addition, official “immunity” must be abolished.
Any awards to aggrieved citizens due to official misconduct must come from the officials’ pension funds.
These changes would turn things around in a hurry.
There is much angst and consternation against prosecutors and grand juries who refuse to bring charges against police officers, even when incontrovertible evidence is presented. Even with incontrovertible audio and video evidence, prosecutors are loath to prosecute rogue law enforcement personnel.
Let’s examine the reasons why it is so difficult to prosecute thug cops:
Most prosecutors are former police officers or have extensive dealings with police departments and have ongoing relationships with police departments in their respective jurisdictions. They are friendly with the judges in their jurisdictions, as well. This, along with “absolute immunity” makes it easy for them to “cover up” police abuses and behavior. Prosecutors cannot be sued for malfeasance…it takes a judge (who prosecutors are friendly with) to bring charges on a rogue prosecutor (which almost never happens).
In addition, prosecutors guide the actions of grand juries. Prosecutors are not required to introduce any evidence to grand juries, (can and do) easily “whitewash” the actions of rogue cops. On the other hand, prosecutors can (and often do) go after honest citizens who seek justice outside official channels…prosecutors have ultimate power and are not afraid to use it…their immunity sees to that.
Another aspect to a grand jury’s inability to prosecute bad cops is the fear of retribution…cops drive around all day, have nothing but time, have access to various databases, and can easily get the names and addresses of grand jurors…this, in itself can be a powerful deterrent against grand jurors who “want to do the right thing” and prosecute bad cops. There are many cases of cops parking in front of grand jurors’ residences, following them around, and threaten to issue citations to them, in order to “convince” them to “make the right decision”…the “thin blue line” at its worst…
The whole system has to change.
Eliminate absolute and qualified immunity for all public officials. The fear of personal lawsuits would be a powerful deterrent against abuses of the public.
Any funds disbursed to civilians as a result of official misconduct must be taken from the police pension funds–NOT from the taxpayers.
Grand juries must be superior to the prosecutor; ALL evidence must be presented to grand jurors. Failure to do so must be considered a felony and subject prosecutors to prosecution themselves.
No police agency can be allowed to investigate itself. Internal affairs departments must be restricted to minor in-house investigations of behavior between cops. All investigations must be handled by outside agencies, preferably at the state level.
Civilian police review boards must be free of police influence. Members of civilian review boards must have NO ties to police departments. Relatives of police would be prohibited from serving…Recently, the “supreme court” threw police another “bone”. The court ruled that police are not responsible for their actions if they are “ignorant of the law”…now, let’s get this straight–honest citizens cannot use “ignorance of the law” as an excuse, but cops can??
Revolution is sorely needed…..
There have been too many instances of police errors, mistakes, and misconduct that have not been properly addressed. From harassing honest citizens over minor disagreements, questionable shootings of honest citizens, to SWAT teams raiding “the wrong house”, smashing everything in sight, with no apologies to the occupants for their “mistakes”, there is something seriously amiss with law enforcement in this country.
Militarization, along with the “us vs. them” attitude, seeing the general public as the “enemy”, treating the public with suspicion, many of those that comprise the “thin blue line” do much to alienate themselves from their “bosses”, the law-abiding public.
Police have forgotten that a little “Andy Taylor” can go a long way in soothing fears that the public has of law enforcement…
It seems that in today’s supercharged climate of “officer safety”, innocent civilian lives have been extinguished, with tragic results and NO ACCOUNTABILITY for police officers’ behavior “under color of authority”.
Part of the “problem” has to do with the elevation of “officer safety”, trumping “citizen safety”. It seems that honest citizens have been relegated to second-class “status”, being expendable whenever a “law enforcement” officer’s (perceived) “safety” is threatened.
The hypocrisy is so blatant, that even with incontrovertible video and audio evidence, police-friendly prosecutors, along with “rubber stamp” grand juries STILL absolve rogue cops of wrongdoing.
The public is not stupid, seeing through the double-standard that presently exists. This, in no certain terms, absolves anyone of responsibility for perpetrating unnecessary violence against “law enforcement” or the general public…
The sad part of this whole situation is that when the SHTF, the 99% of good cops will suffer, as those with “axes to grind” will see only the uniform and will be unable (or even unwilling) to differentiate between the “good” and the few “bad”…collateral damage at its worst.
More SS Storm Troopers in action, backed up by their Gestapo Goon Squad officers.
Successful lawsuits damages against these so-called “Peace Officers” MUST NOT come from the public purse, but from that particular officers private financial account. If that means they must sell their house and possessions to satisfy payment? Then so be it.
“However, Washington was charged with hit-and-run, hit-and-run (property damage), reckless driving, and driving on a revoked or suspended license.”
I can’t help but wonder if he had just avoided breaking the law by driving on a revoked/suspended license, if his day might have turned out different?
“Is this justice? ”
Absolutely not. The cop deserves to be charged with assault and battery and attempted murder with a deadly weapon for running over the guys foot. That is what Washington would have been charged with had he done that to the cop. I just hope the cop had balls enough to quit because he recognized what a scumbag and threat he had become to the public without the threat of being fired.
Black guy charged with 3 criminal offences and you blame the cop.How did the cop know he had a medical emergency All the cop knew is this guy did a hit and run which is a felony charge in most cases..
Are cops suppose to read people’s minds? .Are they suppose to believe these pieces of shit when they cry I’m hurt.I guess you all forgot about the cop shot last night in New Orleans by another black piece of shit.That is the reason cops of any race treat blacks different.I would to.It is the reason all you hysterical ,hypocrites react different when you see a group of blacks.You avoid them like the plague but yet condemn police. When you hypocrites condemn the police you condemn yourself. At least in the eyes of GOD.
And you guys notice this news comes to us from RT, not the MSM. Figures.
And your comment is out of place and unwarranted, BB. You’re fucked up & shit.
Westcoast , for all I know you’re just ass wipe liberal democrat from California.
I just read half a dozen articles on this case. Not one mention of a stroke from anything but ‘an unnamed source’. No information on his blood alcohol level, or why his license had been suspended so many times. Looks like a drunk ass neegrow to me, who had no business driving, and could have killed anyone in his path. Nice BS detector, BB
Or he could be a habitual drunk driver. His driving record isn’t protected by anything. Try yo get any info on it. I did
T4c, you want to be the one who grabs hold of a guy that size? Didn’t think so. It was his lucky day, he didn’t get shot. That’s what non lethal means are for. Sorry your eyes hurt, but you lived. So did the cops.
starfucker said:
“It was his lucky day, he didn’t get shot. That’s what non lethal means are for. Sorry your eyes hurt, but you lived. So did the cops.”
So the cop just quit/was fired for following protocol and staying safe?
Like I said above the whole situation could have been avoided had he not been driving when he was not legally entitled to do so I think the victim is responsible but he did not deserve all that was done to him.
Old guy I reported on last time had a stroke, he couldn’t speak and had trouble moving. I think he was a hero as he was coming up on me when he moved to the shoulder then onto an empty field. He would not have deserved a pepper spraying on top of being incapacitated by a stroke.
I got a bit wobbly one time walking down the strip in Vegas, sometimes the walking is deceptive and you can overdo it, low blood sugar creeps up on you. I would hate to be pepper sprayed for that.
Look, I’m not taking sides here. I’m just not jumping on the perps side. Let’s see his record. Let’s see his blood alcohol content. Still no one stepping up to want to pull him out of the car. I worked in clubs and concert security for years
Pepper spray does not outrage me, compared to the alternatives
Doctors (not EMTs) discovered he was having a medical emergency. But the cops were supposed to know? Looks like any other shitfaced drunk neegrow to me. Sorry your eyes hurt? As opposed to getting shot or clubbed, not a bad option.
I watched the vid yesterday.
Starfucker/bb – did you watch the vid? The copfuk sprays a motionless guy in the face with pepper spray for around 7 fucking seconds, and gets no response at all, so incapacitated is the guy. Then he tazes the poor fuck. Seven seconds of pepper spray wasn’t enough of a fucking clue that the guy was incapable of offering any resistance whatsoever. What kind of evil morons are in police forces these days?
The other cop on scene DOES NOT EVEN DRAW HIS WEAPON – which means he does not deem the man to be a threat. That says everything you need to know – that copfuck with the spray/tazer was itching to fuck someone up. He needs to go to jail.
Further, it is against regs to taze or spray anyone who is not resisting forcefully, and remaining quietly in your car is specifically deemed not to be forceful by the department.
The report I read says the man had suffered a massive stroke. Have not seen that claim verified.
Re the charges – in these cases, the cops ALWAYS charge the victim. It sets the stage for their defense when it goes before the attorney general.
IS – you are using the “if she had not been walking alone in the park late at night she would not have been raped” argument to say this guy is “responsible” for being attacked by that copfuck.
Driving with a revoked license is a crime, and he risked arrest for it. But the responsibility for him being attacked rests with the police.
I mean, even if his license was not revoked, the same fucking thing would have happened to him, now wouldn’t it? They did not know who he was at the time the copfuck assaulted him. I think you are on the wrong side of this. You might as well say citizens should stay indoors and do not drive, lest they have a stroke and thence be responsible for the assault they suffer when a copfuck attacks them.
If you’re scared shitless of everyone that looks the wrong way at you – don’t be a cop.
If you have no common sense and believe everyone is lurking to shoot you – don’t be a cop.
Look at that video – an old, overweight, motionless guy – and the cop is screaming at him to get out of the car. What a fuckin’ idiot.
Star – attacking a drunk who is entirely vulnerable to assault is a crime. As I said, the other cop was so unconcerned he did not even pull his weapon. The guy doing all the assaulting was THIRD on the scene – the other two were totally unconcerned. It is total bullshit. Regs say unless he is resisting he is not to be attacked. And sitting in your car is specifically not deemed to be resisting. So much for copfucks following the rules.
“the police department determined the amount of force used in the incident was “not appropriate.” Fredericksburg Police rules say officers cannot use a Taser on someone who is behind the wheel of a car or anyone who is “passively resisting,” according to WTVR.”
Dutch, that guy is 34. Cop had to resign, I’m fine with that. Llpoh, 2 cops had their guns drawn, that’s why cop 3 didn’t. Pepper spray isn’t fun, but it’s not bullet or a cracked skull. I’ve been teargassed, same thing. Sucks for awhile, but NBD. I still want to see that guy’s driving record. Revoked isn’t the same as duspended in virginia
starfcker
Your obsession with the guy’s driving record is weird. As if a bad driving record is some kind of justification to treat the guy like shit. I’m glad you’re not a cop. Really. You’re turning into bb. That’s not a good thing.
llpoh said:
“IS – you are using the “if she had not been walking alone in the park late at night she would not have been raped” argument to say this guy is “responsible” for being attacked by that copfuck.
Driving with a revoked license is a crime, and he risked arrest for it. But the responsibility for him being attacked rests with the police.”
I think if you scroll up to my 1:47 post you’ll find I said almost exactly that. I also said what I thought should happen to the cop.
Fact is, da man, revoked his privilege to drive on roads belonging to da man. If he had avoided driving that day and had his stroke safely at home he would not have encountered da man that day. As I said, he did not deserve the treatment he received. Unfortunately, besides driving illegally, he is guilty of being black in America in 2015. No doubt that played a part along with warrior training being provided to our domestic public servants. So, at the end of the day, Joe Citizen flaunted the law and lost and Joe Copfuk flaunted the law and lost.
If he had hurt or killed one of your children in similar circumstances, I suspect you might not feel so bad for him. He put a chain of events in motion that led to a very bad day. In the end, his case will be one of many that eventually spark enough outrage to do something about cops treating the public as enemies.
Stuck, slow down. Let me state two things again. Cop had to resign. Fine. Not taking sides. Non lethal force doesn’t bother me in the least. Someone was going to have to grab hold of that guy. Lots of bad things can happen. Nobody died. Everybody went home, cop and perp.that’s a good day. Not worthy of outrage.
Vic hansen has written a series of essays over the years about the 2 tiered legal system in california. Florida is similar. If you are white, the law applies to you strictly, because you are revenue. Black or mex, not so much. Stucky, is there any point this guy needs to get a lisence and obey the law? Or do you exempt him cause he’s black?
BTW, IS, you nailed it
IS – I only took umbrage at your use of the word “responsible” for what happened to it. I saw the previous posts. I disagree he was responsible for what happened to him. If he had not broken the law, he would have avoided being assaulted. But the same can be said per my example – any law-abiding citizen assaulted by cops could avoid it by holding up in their closet and never coming out.
You know how it is around here – we fight over nuances when there is nothing substantial to fight about. Just apologize and move on 🙂 and all will be forgiven!
llpoh, I agree with you. The guy was clearly unresponsive but the cop simply didn’t give a fuck. Instead of pulling out his pepper spray he should have called an ambulance.
Just apologize and move on. Llpoh. Funny stuff
Star – non-lethal force does not bother you? Seems to me you are an A grade pussy. And support others being A grade pussies.
If I am minding my own business and someone fucks with me, I have throughout my life had a nasty habit of resisting getting assaulted or fucked with for no reason. If I was not up to that task, for what ever reason, I got a bigger fucking club. I resist hard enough to make them stop fucking with me, and then add a little to remind them to not do it again.
Cops should not be immune to that basic immutable law – no one gets to fuck with someone for no reason. To do so deprives the victim of one of his guaranteed rights – the right to liberty.
It seems to me you do not understand what liberty is. Here is one definition: “the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one’s behavior”.
That low life scum copfuck had no reason to do what he did. He did it because he was a chickenshit, cowardly scumbag, and he thought he could get away with it.
And if cops keep up assaulting and killing people for no good reason, more and more people are going to decide that my view of the world is right.
It is amazing the difference in upbringing and experience people have had. I saw my father resist being fucked with time and again, even as he was an old man. He would not let it happen. It was potentially fatal to fuck with him, as he did not believe in proportional response. And the older he got, the riskier it became to screw with him, as when he was young he could simply administer a beating, but when older he was less able to do that, and he was totally unprepared to accept a beating or abuse from someone fucking with him.
If you have not seen and experienced such things, you cannot understand. Liberty is important, and it is worth defending. He came from a situation and background where he was often under assault and being fucked with. He never stood for it.
I agree with my father. People must resist.
Greetings,
It is getting harder and harder to view these videos and not come to the conclusion that the police are an enemy occupation force.
llpoh says:
That low life scum copfuck had no reason to do what he did. He did it because he was a chickenshit, cowardly scumbag, and he thought he could get away with it.
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Exactly. He was afraid of taking the risk that the guy was faking it before dragging him out of his car. A pussy with a badge.
Llpoh, no pussy here. You can take that to the bank. Non lethal force for police was developed so we could argue it after the fact, without someone in a body bag. I would hate to be a cop nowadays, not because of the job, but because of the lawyers. How do you police blacks in 2015? Beats TF out of me. Lose lose, you know? Did you see the vid of the little guat girl getting burned the other day?
LOL! I’m not fighting about anything. Both cop and citizen flaunted the law and lost. That’s tie in my book! Upshot is that another clear case of abuse by public servant has been documented and after a few thousand more, a chance to stop this shit might come about. I said many moons ago that it was going to take many more people “taking one for the team” before things change. Mr. Washington had an opportunity to NOT be one of those people but chose to become one instead. I thank him for being one of those people because I’m not willing to get my ass pepper sprayed, tazed, shot or killed to bring about the change.
Horrible for sure, but robbing and killing is serious business, and I guess she never considered how badly it could end. That’s the mindset of trayvon. Of michael brown. I don’t think your perception of being fucked with is the same thing. A guy, cop or not, is no pussy for trying to avoid hand to hand combat. That’s what non lethal means are for. There are millions of blacks in the US that would kill you over five bucks, and not ever think about it again. Different breed
I’m with Indented Sphincter here. Negros have strokes by the dozen over single day. I sure as hell hope they all git tazed afore they ram mah sweet ass. Plus blackie’s big ol fat foot kept his car from rollin inter any more innocent bystanders.
I didn’t hear his stroked ass screamin. His feet is probably numb from diarbeetees anyways. Next.
IS – “not willing to get my ass pepper sprayed, tazed, shot or killed to bring about the change” may not have anything to do with it.
If it happens, you will not be asked beforehand – “Hey, IS, mind if we taze you, pepper-spray your ass, throw you in the back of the copmobile and maybe break your neck, because, well, we feel threatened by you?” Ummm. No. It does not happen that way.
Copfucks sometimes just do it.
Z – non-lethal force was not put in place so that every encounter the fucking cops could taze and pepper spray your ass. It was to protect them against aggressive, but non-lethal, folks. That poor fuck was not that.
Star – the only answer re blacks is to 1) cut off the fucking welfare so they HAVE to work, and 2) actually pro-actively police. Like have cops on the fucking street corners. Walking around.
But depriving them of liberty because the govt is unwilling to cut welfare? No. I cannot agree with that.
The US was set up to protect the rights of the individual, and those rights may not be abridged for any reason.
Yeah it might happen to me someday but I won’t be driving without a license when it happens. (unless it’s a fuck up in their system and since I comment here, a “fuck up” in their system is probably waiting in the wings)
We’ll find out while I’m on vacation as I tend to speed on open stretches of highway.