LTV 137% – In Unprecedented Development, Lenders Now Take Record Losses On Every Used Car Loan

This entire teetering edifice is built upon a towering foundation of un-payable debt. Look no further than the story below. Bankers making loans that will guarantee them future losses because they know the Federal Reserve and puppet politicians will bail them out at your expense. The ignorant masses will never open their eyes because they live in a land of delusion and like driving Cadillac Escalades while the party continues.

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This wasn’t supposed to happen.

With the US consumer hunkering down in 2015 and barely spending more than in the comparble period last year, the only silver lining had been auto sales driven almost entirely by access to cheap credit; in fact, as the chart below shows while revolving credit has barely budged from its post-crisis lows with consumers still failing to fall for the “recovery” narrative, Uncle Sam’s zero cost loans which are now reaching well over 6 years in average duration have provided a generous support for the US auto industry. In addition to the bubble in student loans, car loans have been the only confirmation that the US consumer – that driver of 70% of the US economy – is still alive.

 

So in a world in which one can buy cars now and worry about the costs later, much much later, auto sales should have been soaring as they have been in recent years, right?

 

Well, not for GM, which moments ago reported a surprising drop in June auto sales, which declined 3% M/M to 259,353 from the prior month, driven by an 18.1% plunge in Buick sales, with Chevy and Cadillac also posting declines, despite expectations of a 3% headline increase. This even as GM announced pickup deliveries were up 33% with the Silverado up 18%. Curiously, GM’s main domestic competitor, Ford, reported a 9% drop in F-Series sales in June.

 

What is more surprising is that even as GM posted its first monthly sales miss in a long time, it now appears to be engaging in yet another stealth government bailout, this time not on the balance sheet but the income statement.

As GM reported, even in a month of broader decline in sales, “State and local government sales were up 6 percent in June, with full-size pickup and Tahoe PPV deliveries more than doubling.”

The US government is buying GM pickup trucks now?

It gets better: “State and local government sales are up 19 percent calendar year to date.

So just what is the dollar amount of these soaring government purchases from a company that was bailed out by the same government several years ago? That information is not disclosed, as otherwise it may crush the fiction that it is the US consumer that is behind GM’s powerful “rebound” and not the entity that has an unlimited balance sheet.

But what is most concerning in light of weak sales not only from GM but virtually all other carmakers, both domestic and foreign, is what was reported in the OCC’s semiannual report on “Semiannual risk perspectives” in which we learned something truly stunning: according to the OCC, “60 percent of auto loans originated in the fourth quarter of 2014 had a term of 72 months or more. Extended terms are becoming the norm rather than the exception and need to be carefully managed.

But the real stunner is the following: also according to the OCC, quoting Experian, “average advance rates well above the value of the autos financed. In the fourth quarter of 2014, the average LTV for used vehicle auto loans was 137 percent.” In other words banks are assured to take major losses on their loans and they are still lending at a record pace. Or rather, not so much banks because as we have shown before, the primary source of auto loans in recent years has been just one, as shown below.

 

Believe it or not, it gets worse:

“advance rates for borrowers across the credit spectrum are trending up, with used vehicle LTVs for subprime borrowers (credit score < 620) averaging nearly 150 percent at the end of 2014 (see figure 24).”

For those who are confused, an LTV of over 100% at origination guarantees that the lender will suffer losses on the loan (absent some dramatic price bubble which sends car prices soaring in the coming years).

This explains why the Fed stopped reported LTV data for auto loans altogether and one has to rely on period snippets of updates to get a sense of just how terrifying the real Loan to Value situation currently is.

So what is going on here? Well, for lenders, car loans have become a definitive loss leader. How do they recover the losses on the loans? “Sales of add-on products such as maintenance agreements, extended warranties, and gap insurance are often financed at origination. These add-on products in combination with debt rolled over from existing auto loans contribute to the aggressive advance rates.

In other words, in the US, the car industry has been quietly transformed to a razor-razorblade model, one in which it is not the manufacturers who benefit on the razorblade sales but the lenders!

That this too will result in an epic disaster is not a question of if but when, which is a recurring question considering there is now a bubble virtually anywhere one turns.

Source: OCC


 

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Westcoaster
Westcoaster
July 1, 2015 2:56 pm

I sincerely question whether the “new” cars are worth a shit. My stepson bought a newer Chevy Equinox (that is now out of warranty) and has had nothing but problems that “only the dealer can fix” Meantime I have a 1999 Exploder with 125,000 on the ticker and other than oil changes and regular maintenance the only thing I’ve had to replace is a ABS sensor.
I can’t see these plastic & glue contraptions lasting 72 months.

Capn Mike
Capn Mike
July 1, 2015 3:02 pm

Certainly seems like a robust economic plan to me!
BTW, I just put a down payment on a lovely bridge in Brooklyn!

yahsure
yahsure
July 1, 2015 3:45 pm

I keep reading about how newer Dodge Caravans use oil and get worse fuel mileage than my 03.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
July 1, 2015 4:11 pm

New cars are the latest way to funnel money to minorities. No chance I can get a new car and $10,000 cash on signing. What’s next: TV’s, computers, phones, bling, gold teeth, tattoos, apartments?

zelmer
zelmer
July 1, 2015 4:24 pm

When this bubble pops and all these cars start getting repossessed and start flooding the market maybe I can pick something up a lot less expensive! Unless ISIS is going to pick them for their own use.

Montefrío
Montefrío
July 1, 2015 4:29 pm

When are y’all going to put a stop to this? Do you really need a weatherman to tell you which way the wind is blowing? STARVE THE BEAST!

DRUD
DRUD
July 1, 2015 4:30 pm

The MSN continues the growth meme, continually citing the BLS statistics and the auto and construction industries. Thanks Admin for continuing to point out out the inherent bullshit in the numbers for those of us who find economic data tiring to no end.

http://news.yahoo.com/u-private-sector-adds-237-000-jobs-june-122519477–business.html

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
July 1, 2015 4:46 pm

Westcoaster, I had a 1996 Sexplorer, Eddie Bauer, and when I sold it, it had 200,000 miles on it and the only things I had to replace were the computer and the idler pulley on the serpentine belt.

dc.sunsets
dc.sunsets
July 1, 2015 5:41 pm

Prior to 2012, the last new car I bought was in 1988.

In 2012 I needed to buy a car, and the flood of credit availability kept the price of late-model used cars actually HIGHER than brand new cars.

I bought new.

It seemed to confuse the salesman that I didn’t care about a “payment,” I wanted a write-a-check price.

When it came time to write the check, the idiot “financing manager” almost soured the deal. He kept my wife and me sitting in his office for 90 minutes trying to upsell us on an extended warranty, 60 of those minutes actually after the dealership had closed on a Saturday.

I got so pissed I stood up and said, give me the payoff amount so I can write the check or hand me back the keys to my trade in.

“Finance manager” is a euphemism for the 100% commission salesman who is there to upsell you on all sorts of high margin crap no one needs.

dc.sunsets
dc.sunsets
July 1, 2015 5:46 pm

My 2012 Camry Hybrid has performed well so far, but if I were to listen to the finance manager I’d have expected half the car’s electronics to have required replacement immediately after the warranty ran out.

The car has almost 70,000 miles on it after 2.5 years. As far as I’m concerned, it is the coolest thing on two wheels that doesn’t come with 400 hp. Smooth transmission, no shift points, and the electric adds to the gas engine if you tromp on it, giving you a respectable 0-60 for a 4-door mom and pop car.

Two things keep most Americans from obtaining any financial freedom at all:
1. Being house-poor.
2. Being car-poor.

I see people every day, every hour, driving cars that cost twice what mine did. The difference is that I could write a check for the entire amount. They’re on the PPP: The Permanent Payment Plan. (I could have written a check for their car, too. I just DIDN’T.)

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
July 1, 2015 6:20 pm

Where we live I have noticed that every single government vehicle- they all bear unmistakable red, white and blue plates with either a G or SG prefix- is brand new. Every last one, always meticulously washed, fully tricked out with every extra offered and more and more of them every year. Everyone from the food safety inspector to the game warden’s secretary has them now. I suspect that each one is replaced annually and every employee gets one no matter where they fall on the pay scale.

Safe bet would be that this is the big driver behind the alleged auto recovery.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
July 1, 2015 6:27 pm

DRUD: It occurred to me that there might also be some bureaucrat behind the Big Board turning dials to adjust the DOW or even monitor some program to statistically seasonally adjust it or even diurnally day by day or moment by moment to some preset amount determined last week. The guy probably has an Affirmative Action PhD in Marketing Communications, Community Organizing Social Work and Vote Rigging. You can trust this government with your very soul.

gm
gm
July 1, 2015 7:10 pm

@ dc sunsets yeah I wrote a check for my 2010 Honda civic salespeople where like wtf? but when you look at repos and charging a former customer for the depreciation on a vehicle once repoed and the bank resells the same vehicle 2 -3-4 times over ummm they aint losing money
actually had a car salesmen explain that to me
I teach all my employees to make a car payment to themselves every month and boom after a bit they just writing a check for it fuck the bankers

Gubmint Cheese
Gubmint Cheese
July 1, 2015 7:40 pm

Traded in my 2001 Toyota Landcruiser with 248,000 miles on it 5 months ago.

Most of these are coveted in South America, Africa or middle eastern areas.
I am waiting for it to show up one night on teevee in some ISIS convoy during a “news story”.

bb
bb
July 1, 2015 9:07 pm

Buy a Toyota Tacoma or Tundra . Had both and they are excellent trucks. Got 446+ mile on my Tacoma. She keeps on going . Part of my family now .Never get rid of it.

Russia Is Strong
Russia Is Strong
July 1, 2015 9:18 pm

“LTV 137% – In Unprecedented Development, Lenders Now Take Record Losses On Every Used Car Loan”

Beg to differ my friend. “Unprecedented” …methinks not! This is EXACTLY what to expect in a completely subsidized economy wherein failing mega-corporations deemed ‘Too Big To Fail” are artificially propped up at U.S. taxpayer expense. It’s EXACTLY what drove the former Soviet Union into national bankruptcy. The ONLY reason that the U.S. has thus far avoided following the same downward spiral into economic implosion is thanks to the fact that the U.S. dollar is the international reserve currency of choice. This status is openly being challenged by the BRIC nations AS WE SPEAK, particularly by Russia and China as well as by the Saudi’s recent abandonment of the infamous Petrodollar Peg.

Unraveling. Everything. Is.

VegasBob
VegasBob
July 1, 2015 10:14 pm

I’m with dc.sunsets and gm on this. Save up the money and just write a check. Fuck the banksters.

My last new car was a 2012 Hyundai Elantra. It has about 73,000 miles on it and is still going strong. But I’ll probably be in the market again before it hits 100,000 miles..

Anyway, it’s hard for dealers to sell extended warranties on vehicles with 60,000 mile general warranties and 100,000 mile powertrain warranties, so the best the poor finance guy could do was ask whether it was OK to deposit the check immediately. I just said “yes” and was on my way.

Rife
Rife
July 2, 2015 9:08 am

I buy used Beemers and old Merican trucks. Anyone who pays 40 – 50K$ for a vehicle on credit ain’t too bright.

Rise Up
Rise Up
July 2, 2015 9:30 am

Bought a 2010 Toyota Venza new. Got a very good price. 2 years later got a letter from the dealer asking if I would sell it back to them at MORE than what I paid if it has less than 25,000 miles (it did, but I declined their offer). Car has been great, just the low-end standard package (4-cyl, FWD, not AWD, no sunroof or leather). 30+ MPG on highway. Roomy. Just put new set of tires on it. Change the oil myself.

This is our 5th Toyota, and the Venza is made in Kentucky with 70% North American parts.

credit
credit
July 2, 2015 10:49 am

4.5 years ago i bot a cherry 1990 Dodge Ramcharger w 52,000 miles, from a 78 year old guy. cost $4,000. it now has 77,000 miles. so far, $350/year maintenance costs, zero depreciation,11 city -15 highway, low insurance cost, can tune it up myself, windows roll down and has a side glass vent, grandkids love it, lots of room, feel safe in it w/ no airbag cuz big, meet lots of nice people who want to talk about it, and pretty young girls are strangely drawn to it. you could not get me to buy a new car again!

DRUD
DRUD
July 2, 2015 10:53 am

In an era of sound money and anything approaching normal interest rates paying cash for a car makes sense, but no longer. Why put capital down when interest is so cheap? I don’t see how paying for a car with cash is a “fuck you” to the banking system either. A fuck you is to sign your name , promise to pay for 6 years at 1.5% interest, then put the cash under the matress. Look, don’t get me wrong, I hate to say this and I was raised with the exact OPPOSITE beliefs, but in an upsidedown world sometimes its wisest to simply play the game. At some point in the near future we are going to see a massive, paradigm-shifting crash. Financially, this will involve either a huge default tsunami (deflation) or hyperinflation, or a combination of the two (I think this most likely first deflation; then hyperinflation). In a deflationary scenario, yes, it is bad to have debts, but I think such a crash will overwhelm they system itself (we can’t become an economy of ONLY repo men, can we?) AND I believe we can count on the government to do exactly the wrong thing and crank up the printing press, then boom we get our hyperinflation, and in that scenario it is the wise to owe people money. Look, I HATE the system we have, but I think it is foolish to pretend it doesn’t exist and even more foolish to fight it on its own terms.

My wife and I recently both purchased cars….we couldn’t have paid cash outright, but we could have put down ~75%. And what would we have gotten??? – Nothing whatsoever. No price break…save maybe $2500 of interest over five years, or ~$40/month. Look at it this way: try getting a $30000 loan (both vehicles total) for $40/month. Never fucking happen…but it the Bizzaro land in which we live, we can get useful vehicles for our signature and vague promises to pay some dying fiat currency over the next few years.

The other thing we do is pay EVERYTHING with a cashback credit card. Our savings account makes us about $0.25/year, our bonus cashback (1% at purchase, 1% when we pay the bill, which we do IN FULL every month) card pays us about $50/month. It is a DREADFUL system, folks, and I hate it, but not enough to make bad financial decisions based on principles that only make sense in a sound one.

Bob
Bob
July 2, 2015 12:01 pm

Why write a check when you can get a 0% rate for 72 months?