Multinational Armed Forces Are Training To Enslave Every Modern Nation Following An Economic Collapse
In the past several days, an enormous military exercise has become known to the public. This October over 36,000 troops from more than 30 countries will be gearing up for what NATO calls its largest exercise in over a decade and the exercise is called “TRIDENT JUNCTURE”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4JOdPQ54h4&feature=player_detailpage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSWjKI6ATQo&feature=player_detailpage
A NATO report on TRIDENT JUNCTURE does not tell you what kind of threat, or where the threat would be specifically coming from. As I have discovered, the answer to the question as to the location of TRIDENT JUNCTURE is that the drill could be carried out in one location, multiple locations anytime and anywhere.
NATO Disclosure
According to NATO, the TRIDENT JUNCTURE DRILL (TJ 15) is put together in two parts. The CPX/CAX aspect of the drill will be conducted between the dates of October 3-16, 2015. However, this will follow three days what they are calling “battle staff warm-up” from September 30th to October 2nd. The official purpose of this drill is that it will serve as a “joint certification venue for NATO Response Force 2016 (NRF 16) and Full Operational Capability (FOC) event for JFCBS”. Please note the geographical location of these actions remains very vague
NATO speaks of a complement to TRIDENT JUNCTURE in what is being called “LIVEX“. LIVEX will run from October 21st to November 6th. AIRCOM will be the leading component of the drill and it will involve over 200 aircraft from all NATO nations and they will perform in a specified training area in southern Europe. The importance of southern Europe will be explained in the conclusion part of this article.
Meanwhile Back Home
The United States Army plans to cut 40,000 soldiers from its ranks over the next two years. Please keep in mind that the US military is war mode and the targets are primarily Russia and China. This is national suicide!
This is a reduction that will impact all of the Army’s domestic and foreign posts, as this was recently published from a collection of documents obtained by USA TODAY. If the United States is really on war footing, then these actions, led by President Obama, must be looked at under the lens of treason.n
Certainly, if the reduction in US military force is in diametrically opposite response to the foreign build up of troops on American soil, then Obama’s actions make perfect sense, although it is still undeniable treason. Why would the globalists want to diminish the size of the U.S. military? There are two reasons that come to mind. First, and in the long-term, America is supposed to lose World War III. Second, and in more in the immediate time frame, American troops may oppose an United Nations/NATO “Peacekeeping” force designed to restore order to an American public and military that will not accept the direct usurpation of national sovereignty. Reducing the size of the American military will reduce the size of the American threat to an United Nations takeover. If you dismiss this as idle speculation, than ask yourself why we are seeing the following on American soil?
Why Are Surface to Air Missile Batteries Popping Up Around Key Defense Faciities?
I am certain that many readers will recall when I first published photographs of these surface to air missiles in Texas. The photos came under a lot of criticism and skepticism. However, the local media covered the event and the eventually the photos were vetted as authentic. My sources told me that these missiles were part of a defensive scheme to protect the nuclear waste disposal plant, PANTEX from low flying suicide aircraft whose goal it would be to take out the plant and create a holocaust in the region.
I have reports of similar missiles in Colorado, Missouri and Arkansas. Yesterday, I received photos of more surface to air missile batteries in northern Michigan near Camp Grayling, which is a known FEMA camp facility which also doubles as a training facility for security personnel headed to Guantanamo Bay.
Here is an email I received with regard to a very similar set of circumstances in which a missile launcher was places just outside of a major military aircraft maintenance plant.
Hi Dave,
We live on the old Whurtsmith AFB in Oscoda Michigan. Kallita Aircraft company has maintenance facility here. We’ve been seeing F-16s flying over and today heard C130’s. A local man just posted this picture,,,,,My husband is retired Air Force and we have been trying to monitor events in our area. One comment on the posting is that the National Guard units from Grayling are having exercises. But a missile launcher????? Yikes
Sheryl
Foreign Troops Continue to Pour Into the United States
In May, I received and published information from trusted sources, that 36,000 Turks assigned to NATO were in the process of being sent to a variety of Texas bases.
I have also previously covered the fact that thousands of Danish soldiers trained at Camp Grayling in April.
Here is a second email on the topic of the construction of large number of barracks being constructed at Ft. Bliss. However, many of the troops at Ft. Bliss are gone and have redeployed to other duty assignments such as the Middle East. Why would they need additional housing facilities?
Dear Mr. Hodges
I am part of a construction crew who is overseeing a multi-company construction of barracks on Ft. Bliss. Some of them are temporary TDY that I have seen with disaster relief. I estimate that the new facilities could house as many as 20,000 troops based upon my previous experience in these matters.
What is really strange is that the normal insignias etc. are missing from our construction sites that would normally be added. There is is nothing in this area of the base to indicate that this is a United States military facility. I have not personally seen military from other countries but there isn’t one of us on my team that does not think that this is the case here. A fellow friend in the field saw the same at Lackland. In light of what you have been writing on, I thought I would make this information available to you. For obvious reasons, please do not print my name.
Recently, WNEM TV in Michigan ran a story in which they noted that 3,000 Polish troops were training in the area. We have seen live combat drills in Flint, Michigan complete with explosions and troops movements. In fact, The Common Sense Show has produced documentation that could fill a book with regard to foreign troop activity on American soil.
Gun Confiscation
No doubt that may of saw that yesterday the Obama administration announced that they were going suspend the gun rights of any Social Security recipient who was not the primary executor of their finances because they are obviously mentally infirm. An estimated five million guns could be confiscated. This is the kind of thing tyrants do before they implement martial law. The VA has been used to go after Veterans guns. Now the Social Security administration is going after the guns of the elderly. Who is next?
Connecting the Dots
In the coming NATO LIVEX drill, we see that southern Europe is identified as the training ground. There is every reason to believe that NATO’s TRIDENT JUNCTURE is involved in this region as well since the two drills are linked together in NATO documents. What countries comprise southern Europe? This is where the dots begin to connect. Southern Europe is comprised in part by the countries, also called Mediterranean Europe, that extends along the Mediterranean Sea on the Southern edge of Europe. It encompasses the major countries of Portugal, Spain, Italy, and Greece. Any listener to The Common Sense Show has heard me interview top economists (e.g. Joseph Meyer) who have said first Greece’s economy will fail first followed by Portugal, Spain, and Italy.What do people do when their economies fail and they lose their money? They riot!
I recently wrote an article which I detailed how draconian the governments have become in these countries. For example, protesting outside of government buildings in Spain is now illegal. These are always preemptive moves governments with failing economies employ to stay in power. I think it is quite clear that TRIDENT EXPOSURE AND LIVEX drills are a multinational martial law force which is training to suppress revolution as these countries will soon experience an economic meltdown. This is a civil war prevention force.
The deployment of foreign troops on American soil is a gathering of the forces to accomplish the same objective as TRIDENT EXPOSURE AND LIVEX. However, as Steve Quayle mentioned on our July 19th interview, Steve said that America is entering into a civil war period. Steve is absolutely correct. As a case in point, these missile batteries we see that are deployed outside key defense facilities are speaking to the fact some officers in our military are moving to protect critical infrastructure military assets.
What does this all mean? It is likely that the concept of Jade Helm is international and joint international military forces will be used to subdue dissidents and uncooperative military forces in countries as they experience an economic meltdown. I think it likely that Jade is a subset, or a component part of the NATO drills. It is also very coincidental that these drills are taking place in such close proximity to each other. Does this point to an impending event? That is the simplest and mostly likely conclusion. Now we should be able to see where Jade Helm fits into these unfolding events.
Entirety of above copied and pasted from —-> http://govtslaves.info/multinational-armed-forces-are-training-to-enslave-every-modern-nation-following-an-economic-collapse/
SS- Michael Collins finally figured this out and Irish freedom,, which had been sabotaged by traitors for centuries, finally was won ..
where is this magical Irish freedom you speak of….hidden underneath the heel of the European Union’s jackboot?
You really should put down the tard pipe..you’ve burnt even brain cells already.
SS–Michael Collins finally figured this out and Irish freedom,, which had been sabotaged by traitors for centuries, finally was won
Yes, that great Irish independence which no one can see because it hidden underneath the heel of the European Union’s jackboots.
It ain’t that SS ain’t knowledgeable, it just that his knowledge is all wrong.
Flash- I didn’t guarantee we could win, just that the rebel camp will hold together. It will and you know it will. Did you watch the video of the shoot at Knob Creek that Buckhed suggested? The south is better prepared than some other regions, mentally and in every other way.
Billy- Sorry to hear about your trouble and also hope the missus will be OK. We will keep you in our thoughts.
This is Hodges concluding paragraph we should be discussing:
“What does this all mean? It is likely that the concept of Jade Helm is international and joint international military forces will be used to subdue dissidents and uncooperative military forces in countries as they experience an economic meltdown. I think it likely that Jade is a subset, or a component part of the NATO drills. It is also very coincidental that these drills are taking place in such close proximity to each other. Does this point to an impending event? That is the simplest and mostly likely conclusion. Now we should be able to see where Jade Helm fits into these unfolding events.”
We won’t know what it all means until “it” happens. “It” being a worldwide economic meltdown.
If nothing big happens by the end of October, it will just be a continuation of the same slow burn we’ve experienced since 2008. Just my 2 cents.
flash
I haven’t seen you so worked up about a topic in quite some time. You’re hell-bent trying to “win” this one … even though you are getting your ass kicked (based on down votes).
You are not giving up even an inch of ground. Meaning, you don’t couch your words with “maybe”, “possibly”, “it appears”, etc. No! You are 100% right, and every single person who disagrees with you, even in the slightest is either a “dipshit” or, you dismiss their examples with a “LMAO”
At any rate …
You place FAR to much faith in the power of government. You almost seem to think they are invincible. Would this be the same organization who can’t prevent Marines from getting slaughtered on base? Then, your other extreme is that you place zero faith in Americans. But, as Bruce stated, not every American needs to be a Freedom Fighter. Six million should do the trick.
Stucky continues the beat-down on flash…+1000
flash,
I find it pretty remarkable you don’t slip and fall from stepping in your own bullshit.
You say: “comparing the modern Wal-mart warrior to those that tilled the land from sunup to sundown and hand-made nearly everything they used is really some silly shit…”
Well, even discounting the folks who worked small farms – which means the South, mostly – the Yankee troops were mostly from cities and the closest they came to “working the land” was when they bought vegetables down at the local market. Us Southrons lived (and still do) closer to the land than the Yankees, so it was quite the shock for them to go from city life to living in muddy tents for months at a time. Your depiction of them is false.
Southrons were and are also much more familiar with firearms than Yankees – in fact, the Southerners shot the pants off of the Yankees most of the time. Which, incidentally, gave rise to the NRA after the war. It was formed by 3 Yankee generals and it was most certainly not a “sportsman’s group” – those generals knew the Southerners shot the shit out of them and that the Yankee marksmanship was less than desirable… so they wanted a halfway-trained pile of bodies to draw upon the next time we threw down. That’s what it’s original purpose was and a direct result of Southern prowess in the field.
I will concede that those Walter Mitty types who congregate down at CreatureMart will be worse than worthless. But I also think you’re discounting many multiples of thousands – if not hundreds of thousands – of kids who grow up in the backwoods learning how to cut for sign, developing their woodcraft, making do with what they got… I see it every day.
The sounds of rifle fire echo all over these hills almost every day… and if you’re any good, you can tell not only who’s doing the shooting, but what they’re shooting and even why. The sharp crack of a rifle vs. the heavy thump of a shotgun vs the smaller pops of a .22… Counting rounds will tell you weapon type. How they’re fired tells you what they’re doing – the steady beat of slow-fire rifle practice. Several pairs or threes, widely spaced means someone’s working on their zero. A 6-pack of pops repeated several times means someone’s killing pop cans with a revolver….
I ain’t saying it’s gonna be a cake walk. Nothing ever is. If it goes down – and I pray with all my heart that it does not – it’s gonna suck more than anything any of us have ever seen, and our children will learn the worst of it by seeing it with their own eyes… but I also don’t think it’s gonna go down the way you say. I think you give Blue Team waaaaay too much credit and Red Team not enough. They’re not omnipotent nor are they all-powerful.
If anything, it will shake out the same way every other scrape we’ve been in has shaken out – both sides will bumble fuck around and there will be a lot of dyin’ on each side until each side unfucks themselves and gets their shit together… then it will get even worse.
Who will win? Honestly, I dunno. I do know I probably won’t live to see the end of it. But, I’m okay with that. Us 13ers are meant as the blood sacrifice anyways. We were never meant to do the rebuilding – our sons and daughters are. Everything’s got a job. Seed’s got a job, bird’s got a job, shit’s got a job… and we got a job.
Those who’re keeping the missus in your thoughts, thank you.
She’s got a couple weeks off from work and is supposed to see a specialist early next month. Hopefully, Doctor Specialist will be able to square her away and she’ll be fine…
One of the things I have become very aware of is the paucity of “specialists” in rural America. They’re almost like the old circuit riders 125 years ago or so… have to wait for them to make the rounds. GP’s are everywhere, but if you go “off menu”, then you gots ta wait…
Something to keep in mind…
Billy- Flash needs to spend more time in the rural areas of KY and TN. Sure boys are playing video games but mostly I see young fellas riding four wheelers, hunting, fishing and working in the garden. They are outside most of the time and are certainly not all fat asses.
Bea,
Sure there’s kids playing video games. My son plays video games. But I also got him outside helping to paint, planting – and now digging – potatoes, pulling weeds, helping construct and paint targets, etc.
In the next couple of weeks, my target stands should be done, and I’m gonna hold a rifle class for those interested. Mostly friends and family, since it won’t be held on my property. The fundamentals – sight picture, breathing, trigger control, dime exercise, hold-over/under, proper shooting positions (standing, kneeling, sitting, prone), how to properly use a rest, how to read the wind and compensate, best distance for your zero, etc… then we’re gonna have a little contest. Clay pigeons at 400+ yards – everyone gets one round. Winner gets a Silver Eagle. Should be good fun.
Deer season is around the corner. Have to get these boys squared away well in advance. Then comes cutting for sign, practicing woodcraft, etc…
Stuck, are there any prizes for winning an argument pitting reality against fantasy? If there’s not , why the fuck should I care who does or doesn’t agree I’m in it for the discourse…that’s all..One thing to keep in mind on the blithering retort about tribal rag-heads kicking US military ass.The insurgents are thousands of miles away…they have vast re-supply networks centuries old and they’ve lived the lives or warriors, including all the depredation and hardships that go along for innumerable generations. And , the US govenrment doesn’t have a dossier on every muslim since the time of birth…Americans , they do.
Also …Americans are soft which will not work in our favor…..sorry if that offends you…but the truth is just that.
Billy , about the sanest assessment of the sitcom I’ve yet to see on this thread, but nevertheless ,shooters aren’t necessarily fighters and fighters aren’t necessarily killers….and killers , lotsa’ cold blooded killers are needed to win any war. Can they be made in time to stop curb the deployment of search and destroy kill teams? If it came to that , the learning curve better be straight as an arrow, becasue the PSA will come hard and fast.
I’ve spent my entire life in the Southern region and culture and most of that in outdoor work and sports…the field type …not with leather , but of lead.That said, I often hear asshats talking shit about how when the SHTF they’ll bug out to the woods and live off the land , like the game will just replenish itself with everyone poaching as the see fit. Most of these morons have no idea that the State and Federal Fish and Game divisions had extensive programs in the 50′ and 60’s to restock entire southern regions with game, most in particular , deer and turkeys ,. because the local stock had been hunted to depletion. Hunger is the most effective in the state’s arsenal , and make no mistake it will be brought to bear…just ask the Germans about that.
An army marches on it stomach…that is if one can be organized to march in the first place…seems highly doubtful to me…and will those that join this army of resistors be taking their families with them, or leaving them behind to be pawns in hostage negotiations? And if you do take your family , how will they be defended against aerial assaults?
Food , fire and force will not be the resistors friend. Don’t take this the wrong way.I am not agasint resistance, matter of fact nothing could be more honorable. I’m just agaisnt the folly with which it is approached.that’s all.
BTW, Stuck ,I’m not worked up over anything…I could give a fat rats ass.. fate is fate..or in modern lingo ..shit happens and you die.
” … why the fuck should I care who does or doesn’t agree I’m in it for the discourse …” —-flash
On a site where you generally agree with people on issues, you COULD use it as a barometer which indicates you are on the wrong path on this particular issue.
BL,You read , but don’t comprehend…I said … I’ve not spent much time in KY , but I spent ten years on the road , all over the Southeast ….spending weeks mostly in little hideaway rural redneck holes..I know the South and Southerners better’n most , including you and Billy….so please don’t tell me jack shit about Southerns .. OK? Hell, the biggest industry in my county for over a hundred years , before the Fed shut it down was moonshine ..and you think the Feds can’t run a snake up you ass to check your source code?…shit for brains.
I agree with you more than not, flash.
Hunters and shooters are not necessarily killers. However, it only takes one event to make a bunch of ’em.
Look at Haji. Most Hajis aren’t “warriors” – they grow Poppies or dirt farm or are merchants. Then along comes the Infidel and blows up Haji’s house with Haji’s family in it – Brits, Russians, Americans… “who” blows up his house or tent doesn’t matter.
At which point, Haji don’t give a fuck about himself anymore. Only thing he cares about is payback. And all Haji’s neighbors who helped him pick up the bits and pieces of his wife and kids are right there with him.
Blue Team is real good at swinging that hammer. The whole “shock and awe” thing. Thing is, shock and awe wears off and is replaced by cold fury and a powerful will to dish out some payback.
As far as your assessment of “Imma go live off the land, etc” folks being delusional, well you’re dead nuts right. If everyone heads for the hills, the game population will be depleted right quick. Which is why I’m devoting resources to growing our own food, raising our own animals, etc. Most folks don’t even know that when Lewis and Clark went West, they damn near starved to death for lack of game – the huge ancient forests didn’t support the brush the game need to survive – there was literally nothing to eat, and if not for the huge amounts of pemmican and other supplies they picked up in St. Louis, they would have starved long before seeing the Rockies. The game we enjoy today is the result of many decades of careful conservation coupled with the deforestation of the Ohio River Valley and regions farther south… that allowed smaller, brushy plants to spring up and increased the carrying capacity of the land via increased food sources.
Food is a weapon. It might even be the first weapon. Keep Og and his band away from the good eats so Og and his buddies starve to death and that’s less competition for you – plus, we don’t like Og. Or withhold eats so you do my bidding/support my regime. Get in line and you get fed. Act out, and you starve. Still going on today.
I’m thinking there’s going to be another player in the game, with their own agenda. Red Team might have to make a deal with the devil, since every Red Team that has ever existed has had a Sugar Daddy. And Sugar Daddy’s tend to want to get paid, eventually…
One thing’s certain. It will not be boring.
Shit for brains? source code? WTF Flash.
Stuck -you COULD use it as a barometer which indicates you are on the wrong path on this particular issue.
This issue has no proven path ..it is a matter of educated opinion and I know very few fighters , but over a lifetime I have encountered scads loudmouth wannabe fuckers who when empty noise turns to furious blows are always the first to run.. ..And FWIW, I don’t gauge my opinions by anyone’s fucking barometer..
BL…that which makes one tick..
BTW, as a far as bullshit goes, I don’t dish it up, but due a lifetime of experience in dealing with shitheads. , I can smell it from a mile away..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOXlKZndzv8
.”And FWIW, I don’t gauge my opinions by anyone’s fucking barometer.” ——- flash
That’s your Pride talking … and, as you know, pride goeth before the fall.
Try is sometime. You’re missing out on a valuable tool.
Back when this joint was on Raging Debate, I was an avid Abe Lincoln supporter. I was SHOCKED at all the nasty shit people were saying about Honest Abe, especially this Tom LaCour (sp?) fellow. Had it been any other website I would have said “Fuck you, Asshole” and left. BUT, because I was getting tons of negative votes (and, countering opinions, of course) from folks I respected … well, I thought it would be prudent to reconsider. I did, and now I hate the corpse-looking asshole! That’s what I’m talking about.
Flash
A “drive-by” in southern towns, whatever decade that was, is not indicative of what is the current condition or mindset of southern people today.
Hey, speaking of “food as a weapon”, you guys know what was originally outlawed?
Believe it or not, fucking fruit cake.
Yep, the same shit that everyone doesn’t want to eat come Christmas time.
See, back in the day – that being about a thousand years ago – feudal lords kept their peasants in line by allowing them just enough food to exist on, no extra. The “extra” went to the feudal lords as “taxes”.
But then along came some better times and there was “extra” for folks. Folks responded by inventing the primitive forerunner of Fruit Cake – very calorie dense, keeps a long time thanks to copious use of alcohol and very portable. And easy to hide. And all of a sudden, those peasants had some eats to rely on when their “lord” fucked with them and withheld their food that he took as “taxes”.
The ruling class responded by outlawing fucking fruit cake, if you can believe it, because the peasants didn’t have to rely on their “lord” to stay alive anymore – which means they could tell him to fuck right off if they wanted to. The humble fucking fruit cake was a direct threat to the power and authority of the feudal lords.
Don’t remember where I read that, but I know truth when I hear it. And I like fruit cake. Folks make fun of it, but it was originally a big ole’ FUCK YOU! to the elites… and that can’t be a bad thing.
“And I like fruit cake.” ——— Billy
Wow. It finally happened! You are the first person …quite LITERALLY … that I’ve ever heard say that. Can’t you get your whiskey another way?
There’s a story of a church lady who brought fruit cake to the Christmas Pot Luck for 25 years in a row. It was the SAME fruit cake! It never decomposed,. and no one ever ate it.
From the web — “The oldest reference that can be found regarding a fruitcake dates back to Roman times. The recipe included pomegranate seeds. Pine nuts, and raisins that were mixed into barley mash. Honey, spices, and preserved fruits were added during the Middle Ages. Crusaders and hunters were reported to have carried this type of cake to sustain themselves over long periods of time away from home.”
Hey, Billy! Do you also like SPAM?
@ anon…you read ,but you do not comprehend…now fuck off.
Stuck…wrong setting my beliefs and thus my opinions has not a damn thing to do with pride..and BTW, I was on of those RDers giving both you and admin shit about ol’ shitstain Abe…and now you know your barometer, which was gauged to popular, that is to say mainstream bullshit was wrong.
and I seem to recall your rapid support for The Bushwasker as well…another opinion set to majority’s opinion…wrong …also. ..demonstrably two up on you…wanna bet on a third?
@ Billy .. Claxtons still the best and I’ve compared it to that shit they call gourmet.
https://claxtonfruitcake.com/
Claxtons is made in Georgia and is better when soaked in bourbon for two or three weeks. Come to think about it, many things are better soaked in bourbon
flash
I got nothing else. Debating with you is like debating with my libtard seester. You are always right no matter what, others are always wrong no matter what … even if they’re just trying to help or explain themselves. I, da Judge, cannot compete with you, God.
And save your upcoming snarky “soak your butt-hurt” crap. It has nothing to do with that. Arguing with you is like pissing up a rope and who needs that? So, I won’t in the future. Fortunately, our home has two showers.
Hey, Billy! Do you also like SPAM? – Stucky
As a matter of fact, yes I do. I’ll even go you one better – MOTHERFUCKIN’ BACON SPAM!!
Yes, Spam with bacon in it… saw it, bought it, tried it, liked it.
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Thing is, El Stuck-o, we were fuckin’ poor growing up. Maybe not as bad off as Llpoh, but still… bologna sammiches on Wonder bread with mustard… ate that shit for a school lunch for literally years. Can’t stomach it today – can’t even abide the smell. Scrambled eggs with bits of hot dog chopped up in it. Fried bologna. Fried Spam. Campbell’s tomato soup. Sometimes made with milk, but most times made with water. Spaghetti noodles with ketchup. Purple Kool Aid. Every once in awhile, we’d get something like steak – usually once every couple of months or so… Mama had to do what she had to do to make ends meet. At least we had food.
Later on during my first go-round in University – before enlisting – it was so hard to make ends meet, I would buy one of those el cheapo 5 pound tubes of bologna and a loaf of bread and eat on that for as long as I could. A bunch of Ramen noodles and a jar of Ragu sauce – toss the Ramen noodle flavor packet, boil the noodles and add Ragu sauce. Enough “spaghetti” for one person. No meat. Leftover sauce back in the jar for next time. And yeah, Spam. You can do all sorts of shit with Spam – especially with barbeque sauce – and I like it. And I won’t hang my head when I say it, neither… If you don’t like Spam, a better option would be the DAK hams you come across. That’s some good shit right there…
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And fruitcake is made with bourbon or rum, not whiskey. And yeah, I like it too.
@ flash.
Thanks for bird-dogging that. I’ll have to try it.
Stuck. These arguments of defeating the Federales’ with an army of clock-punchers is based on opinion , not fact. Come back when you have some convincing facts and I’ll give them the respect they deserve otherwise your playing the emotion driven thumbs up game which doesn’t mean diddly shit to me.
@ flash,
Dude, you have a point when it comes to some land whale WalCreature bumble-fucking around in the weeds playing Insurgent.
But Stuck also has a point re: raw numbers. I’m thinking the truth lies somewhere in between you and him.
It’s been quite awhile since I was humping a ruck and sleeping on rocks – I was in my 20’s when I did that shit and it damn near wasted me. Now in my late 40’s, I have zero desire to go play Insurgent in the boonies, sleep on rocks in the rain and use my poncho and liner as a sleeping bag/tent. But, if it comes down to it…
“… Come back when you have some convincing facts …” —– flash
OK
Fact 1: You suck dick.
Fact 2: You’re a moron.
Therefore, blow me, moron.
Next!
Stucky, you know why he got the name flash? Give ya a hint – his first girlfriend gave it to him after their first make-out session.
Stucky says:
“Wow. It finally happened! You are the first person …quite LITERALLY … that I’ve ever heard say that.”
Make that two Stucky. I’ve hated that shit they call fruit cake in this country forever. One day my boss came into work with a bunch of baked goods his mother had made and handed me a small fruit cake. I thanked him for the offer and apologized because I hated fruit cake. I relented and gave it a try. Ho Lee Fuk! It was out of this world good! He and his family are Scottish. Now his mom makes me fruit cake each Christmas and I freeze it to enjoy all year. I still can’t stand whatever it is they try to pass off as fruit cake in the USSA.
Billy- But Stuck also has a point re: raw numbers. I’m thinking the truth lies somewhere in between you and him.
But, where is the beef in these raw numbers? How many gun owners will fight..and for how long…very few, which translates to not enough is what I surmise..
Here’s what I do know. In the early part of the War of Northern Aggression, the CSA was kicking the Unions ass, winning nearly almost every battle albeit suffering heavy casualties in the process. And, therein lie the CSA’s # 1 problem.They were losing more men than they could replace. The Union did no have this problem.They were importing foreigners from Europe (mostly Germany and Ireland) by the tens of thousands ,attracted by the promise of cit citizenship if they would fight and press ganging the rest. The South was bled out by attrition.
And the same strategy can be applied to the modern liberty movement. There is an unlimited supply of foreigner fighters who would come here just for a promise of liberty and land, neither of which they would ever receive, but just the promise would be enough.
Again, I’m not against fighting for freedom , but unless its done at state level via secession there is little chance of an revolution fostered by small organizations of fed up individuals to have much of an impact.
I disagree that American’s won’t fight. There were a dozens of folks at our shoot…all of them preppers, locked and loaded to the hilt ( every time I hear “Locked And Loaded” I think of the BRM range at Ft. Jackson).
Billy’s right…let one “Peaceful Man” loose his wife and kids and watch how that rage turns to revenge .
Billy- As great as the Bacon Spam sounds, I must tell you not to eat that as all Hormel products are made by the Chinese. Smithfield and Hormel and several other brands are now 100% Chicom.
Brutal Truth , morons bore me …don’t you still have that picture of your mother sucking Jesse Jackson’s cock to masturbate to?
I/S …all fruit cakes aren’t created equal…try a Claxton before passing final judgement .
But, where is the beef in these raw numbers? How many gun owners will fight..and for how long…very few, which translates to not enough is what I surmise.. – flash
Dude, I can’t even begin to tell you… how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? We don’t know. Can’t know, since the number of guys who tribe up with Red Team is completely dependent on the actions of Blue Team, and I have no idea what they’re gonna do… they don’t even know what they’re gonna do…
However, I do know human nature and the spirit of my fellow Southerners. Bunch of Chinks come in here because Blue Team promised them the land of the people they kill? “Righteous fury” does not even begin to cover it. Let a bunch of Mercs come in from somewhere else and commit even one atrocity? Man, it would unleash the fuckin’ whirlwind…
As far as the Southern War of Independence, it was a lot more than the oversimplification that you stated. I do agree that the Union was promising immigrants fresh off the boat the moon and the stars if they fought, then resorted to press-ganging when volunteers weren’t enough… but the Union was running a pretty good blockade, which was the South’s lifeline. Supplies coming through Mexico and overland from Texas – going the long way around – wasn’t nearly enough. The North was industrialized, the South agrarian. They outproduced us, while strangling our supplies at the same time.
A lot’s changed since then… You’re talking Gen 1 warfare – you line your guys up and I’ll line mine up and we’ll have at each other till someone gives up. Plenty of other stuff has changed as well…
Bea,
Dude, is Spam made by the Chinks, or are the companies just owned by the Chinks?
If I didn’t buy anything that was made by people I don’t particularly like, I wouldn’t have a whole lot in the larder, gnomesayin?
Best food investment – calorie for calorie, protein, fats, carbs, etc, – is meat. Yeah, we could buy a cow locally, have it slaughtered and processed, then dry and/or freeze-dry the meat (there’s a pretty cool gizmo on the market I just finished reading about… a freeze drier for family use) and then store that, but for the moment I have to stock up on something… so I hold my nose and do what I have to do.
Billy- I have read that that chickens and hogs are shipped to China for processing and then shipped back to the US………..notice the commercials (if you still have regular tv) that Purdue makes a point in their adds that their chickens have never been out of the country. Everyone is baffled as to why our food is sent to China and then returned after processing.
I don’t think it is worth the risk to your health. Stick with the Danish ham in the can. Don’t you wonder why every drive thru in America is pushing bacon/double bacon on everything. Arby’s is pushing a sammich with two different kinds of cured bacon and that is the only meat on the sammich. Buy uncured bacon at Trader Joes or lucky’s market.
Just remember they recently had a decision that no beef, chicken or pork is to be labeled with the country of origin……………….now ask yourself why .
Can you tell I did not proof the above post? That should be ads not adds.
Let me tell you why mah sweet sweet Billy loves spam. Long ago he discovered it has the texture and sensual feel of a goats bung hole. Me n Billy Jr have many uh time questioned why the spam had a curious milky sauce cooked in and when we discovered what aberrations had been committed with our potted meat – well, it still tastes really good on wonderbread.
Good story, Billy. It made me hongry. I figure that is just Southern comfort food. BTW, Spam is very popular in Hawaii. We had spam on occasion, never made it a habit.
I recall a time when I was visiting a friend and his mom offered me a bologna sandwich – it was a fucking treat, let me tell you. If I go to Subway, my first choice is cold cuts. I don’t care for oatmeal, w had that for breakfast too many times. Once man’s trash is another man’s treasure.
Bea,
I’m thinking us shipping pigs and such to the Chinks, only to have them process them into Spam and then return it is just BS…
I just spent 30 minutes of my life that I’ll never get back researching where Spam is made, what it’s made from, etc, and I learned more about it than I ever cared to in the first place.
Bottom line: There’s two American plants that make it. They make about 44,000 cans an hour. It’s actually marketed in China as a ‘premium’ imported meat – with a slight recipe change, of course. If they’re making it, then how can it be sold as “imported”?
All respect, but I’m afraid I’m going to have to see some unimpeachable proof before you’re going to get any traction with the “Chinks are making Spam” story… sorry.
Spam is no more disgusting than hotdogs, and they are like, “all american.” It just has more sugar.
Of course every food, fuck, everything that is called American sucks. American cheese is the lowest quality of it that exists in the known universe. Chevy? don’t even go there. I guess apple pie is okay. It’s hard to fuck that up.
“Thing is, El Stuck-o, we were fuckin’ poor growing up.”
In an earlier thread on this site, you went to great lengths describing your normal childhood to llpoh to prove you weren’t the dumb shit that llpoh said you were, you said you were solidly in the middle class.
Which is it?
Were you fuckin’ poor?
Or were you middle class?
@ Chief Inspector Cocksucker,
You want more backstory motherfucker? Fine. Let’s just pour more lemon juice and salt on some painful ass shit I’ve tried to spend my life forgetting, just to make you fucking happy…
Papa worked for the Treasury department. We had it pretty good, up until 1980. Solidly middle class. Nice house, good food, etc.
Then Reagan came into office with promises to get debt under control. Papa lost his job. I was 12. Combined with the mortgage he took out on the house to have improvements made in 1978, now he had to pay off the fucking house again, only this time with no fucking job..
He took a job overseas and I didn’t see him until I was almost graduated from High School. What he was making wasn’t nearly what he was making before.
During that time, if we wanted to keep the fucking house, then sacrifices had to be made. There. Was. No. Money. It was all going to pay off the fucking house. Instead of new clothes, Mama patched our torn ones. We just put up with the ridicule. Instead of fucking ground beef or whatever, we ate fucking bulk hot dogs until they came shooting out our ears…
I can remember Mama sitting at the kitchen table, sobbing her heart out because THERE WAS NO FUCKING MONEY, we were just barely scraping by and she honestly did not know what to do. It would be another 10 years – after I had left for the Army – before things got better for them. I was even giving them access to what I was making, just to make their lives easier.
So yeah, for about 12 years – from my birth to shortly after January of 1980 – we were solidly middle class. Didn’t want for anything. It was fuckin’ great! After 1980, it sucked and damn near destroyed my fucking family…
You want to know anything else? Like, how we literally could not afford to have my Grandpa taken care of by heath professionals when he was dying, and so Papa put him in MY FUCKING ROOM while he died, just so he’d have a bit of comfort? WANT TO KNOW HOW THAT MADE ME FUCKING FEEL TOO, YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER?!?
I swear to god almighty, you’ve got me fucking pissed off…. I’d cave your fuckin’ head in right now, if I could…
Oh mah gawd. Billy just ran down the road buck naked screaming ‘Why’d ya do it papaaaaaaa, why oh why did ya let grandpa expire on mah beddddd. Mama, I don’t want no more patches, no moar patchezzzzzz!’
Sometimes I think yew people don’t luv Billy like he thinks you do.