SAN ANTONIO POLICE MURDER A MAN WITH HIS HANDS UP

Unedited video of fatal deputy-involved shooting
he unedited version of a video obtained by KSAT 12 News showing the fatal shooting of a man by two Bexar County sheriff deputies will now be made available for online viewing.

The video will include the actual moment the 41-year-old suspect, Gilbert Flores, was shot outside a home in the 24400 block of Walnut Pass. The video also shows what deputies Greg Vasquez and Robert Sanchez did moments after the shooting. Vasquez and Sanchez are on paid administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation.


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Persnickety
Persnickety
September 2, 2015 12:05 pm

This one looks pretty hard to explain away. Were there any bodycams or police dash cams that got footage of the shooting?

bb
bb
September 2, 2015 12:35 pm

This confrontation had been going on for some time.I never understand why these people don’t obey the officers then have your day in court. Why provoke the police to begin with. It almost like they want the police to kill them.It’s called …. suicide by cop….

Damn ,do what the police tell you to do .Then have your day in court with legal representation.You stay alive .

kokoda
kokoda
September 2, 2015 12:44 pm

In the ksat.com link posted above, she stated he “resisted arrest”.

I didn’t see any physical resistance. It was just a fun day for human target practice.

phoolish
phoolish
September 2, 2015 12:46 pm

Looks like those guys were late for the donut shop and had to get a move on. Disgusting.

zebra
zebra
September 2, 2015 1:04 pm

We have the masters we deserve. What a metal ill country USA has become.

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
September 2, 2015 1:04 pm

What I don’t understand is why they don’t give the guy a warning and then shoot him in the legs….trust me…..a 9mm slug in both thighs will incapacitate anyone .

You can bet that the 2nd video tape shows how the cops executed this guy otherwise it would have been released pronto .

zebra
zebra
September 2, 2015 1:05 pm

mentally ill

phoolish
phoolish
September 2, 2015 1:10 pm

At this point, running away from a cop isn’t resisting arrest, it is a rational response from a thinking person.

Trigger happy fascists..

harry p.
harry p.
September 2, 2015 1:12 pm

bb,

This confrontation had been going on for some time.I never understand why the Jews don’t obey the Nazis then have your day in court. Why provoke the Nazis to begin with. It almost like the Jews want the Nazi to kill them.It’s called …. suicide by Nazi….

Damn ,do what the Nazis tell you to do .Then have your day in court with legal representation.You stay alive .

Stucky
Stucky
September 2, 2015 1:17 pm

No shirt on …. hands in the air … and he gets murdered. Too bad there weren’t any vacationing Swedish cops around.

BTW, note bb’s nutlicking copfuck loving ways ….. and you wonder why I think it’s best if he’s banned. Unbelievable.

DRUD
DRUD
September 2, 2015 1:25 pm

Administrative Leave…for a clear cut case of murder in the second degree…only in ‘Murika and only fro a copfuk.

Stucky
Stucky
September 2, 2015 1:28 pm

I’ll bet Joo Boy Copfuk, Sgt. John T. MacF. Mood, got a hardon when he saw this justifiable shooting.

TE
TE
September 2, 2015 1:33 pm

@Stuck, aw, why so hard on the statist bootlicker @bb?

I just think of him as Saul/Paul, out killing Jesus followers because the men in control told him to keep the “lies” from growing and that killing in the name of the state/Pharisees was the obvious “right” thing to do/think.

I know what happened to Saul/Paul, I don’t think @bb does though. He definitely has missed the meaning, anyway.

We are all one low-blood-sugar incident away from being justifiably killed in the name of public safety.

Well, that is is we survive the medical mandates first.

DRUD
DRUD
September 2, 2015 2:14 pm

huh, bb as St Paul?

Maybe a well-armed, liberty minded neegrow will save him from a psychotic copfuk on the Road to Damascus (Oergon)…

That would sure send his world-view in an ass-over-teakettle spin.

yahsure
yahsure
September 2, 2015 2:25 pm

Dam!

Alexander Waverly
Alexander Waverly
September 2, 2015 2:28 pm

bb=asshole

Dutchman
Dutchman
September 2, 2015 3:14 pm

Meanwhile, in the suburbs of Minneapolis:

Lino Lakes officer makes 535 traffic stops in 2 months:

http://www.startribune.com/lino-lakes-officer-makes-535-traffic-stops-in-2-months/323802881/

prisonerofzelda
prisonerofzelda
September 2, 2015 3:14 pm

2 Cops ( Mexicans ) murder another Mexican ( Probable Illegal Alien ). Cops go to jail for life with unlimited Sodomy privileges. Sounds like a Win / Win to me, lets score one for the good guys.

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
September 2, 2015 3:26 pm

Here’s a solution for those “resisting”, tranquilizer dart. Works for bears; works for Humans. And neither are dead afterwards.

TJF
TJF
September 2, 2015 3:54 pm

The one thing I’ve learned by seeing the TV show Cops is that one should always have a shirt one when at home or in a vehicle. It seems that having no shirt on makes one a cop magnet.

It will be interesting to see what the national news says about this and whether there will be protests and riots over this. Looks like out and out cold blooded murder by the boys in blue. Lock those pieces of shit up.

Sancho
Sancho
September 2, 2015 4:29 pm

Not black. Does not matter.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
September 2, 2015 4:45 pm

Looks to me like some fat lazy low IQ AA feminist Cop decided it’s too hot and too much trouble to cuff’m so she just shot the guy so the medics will have to tag and bag’m. Now she can sit at an air conditioned desk eating donuts for a couple weeks until the DA clears her for self defense since she will say she thought the guy was was reaching for a gun. Do they get to keep and mount the heads?

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 2, 2015 5:00 pm

Probably would have been ruled a justifiable shooting if it weren’t for the video.

Cop may have received a promotion or medal as well for it.

Might happen anyway, I don’t bet on anything when it comes to cops now days.

Leave No Trace
Leave No Trace
September 2, 2015 5:56 pm

Here’s the litmus test, Bexar County. Cold blooded murder by cop. What cha gonna do? ANY OTHER FUCKING CITIZEN DID THAT AND THEY WOULD BE GONE BY NOW. We have eyes and we remember each one of these incidents, all the while the cops are organizing Support Your Law Enforcement rallies across the country.

Clean your ranks of the sub-humans that do this and send animals like this to prison or, God help us, we’re going to do the job ourselves.

bb
bb
September 2, 2015 6:57 pm

Hey numb nuts , now the cops will have their day in court.

Harry p ,it’s worth it just to get a rise out of you.I always look forward to your
replied. Comparing two cops in Texas to the SS is very odd but I have come to expect this from you.Have a great day Harry.

My beloved Stucky , what to say ? Time for you to go to your room and masturbate. Got to get that blood pressure under control.

Gryffyn
Gryffyn
September 2, 2015 7:31 pm

What if we all put big white letters on our back windows “To Serve and Protect”. I have been followed and stopped more times than I can remember in my 7 plus decades on the planet. This is a police motto which needs reinforcement. What do y’all think? Would you be stopped? Would it provide some WTF? brain stimulus?

Sensetti
Sensetti
September 2, 2015 8:09 pm

His hands were going up and down as he was walking around. At the time the cops fired his right hand was in the air, you can’t see his left arm it was obscured by the pole, check it out. But surely there’s an eye witness closer than this video. If in fact he had both hands in the air the cop that shot him should be marched in front of a firing squad.

Sensetti
Sensetti
September 2, 2015 8:24 pm

I’ve watched it ten more times. You absolutely can’t see his left arm at the time the cop shot. If the guy had both hands up and dropped his left arm the cops will say he was going for a weapon. Does anyone know if they guy had a gun on him.

llpoh
llpoh
September 2, 2015 8:25 pm

Sensetti – I do not give one shit what his left hand was doing – holding a knife, pulling his pud (angle of his shoulder indicates to me his hand was up), picking his goddam nose.

He was not real close to them, and he was not approaching them, and they both had guns drawn. They could have easily retreated a step or two or four to calm the thing down.

They have not released the film that shows both arms. Imagine that.

They executed him. And notice the fucks did not even go straight to him to offer aid. Stood around getting their stories straight instead would be my guess:

Cop 1:
“He came at us with a knife.”
Cop 2: “Yep, exactly. Came at us and we were in fear of our lives.”

Cop 1: “Yep. Stick with that.We will be sweet. Maybe next week we can shoot a nigger.”

I really hate cops.

llpoh
llpoh
September 2, 2015 8:35 pm

Half hour ago on CNN:

“Asked whether the second video showed Flores with both hands up when he was shot, Pamerleau stated, “We saw that.”

She then reiterated remarks she made last week: “As I mentioned in the press conference on Friday evening, that video causes us concern.””

There you go – proof positive he had both hands up. No confirmation he had a knife or weapon (so bet he did not).

Hands up, standing straight up. Not moving forward. Considerable distance away. Shot dead.

Those fuckers need the chair.

Sensetti
Sensetti
September 2, 2015 8:50 pm

The facts will prevail! There has to be plenty of neighbors with eyes on. It appears to me they were chasing him down the street, related to the fact all three walk in from the left side of video. Hell, I’m all for disbanding the police, my community would be just fine and justice would be sure and swift.

Sensetti
Sensetti
September 2, 2015 8:54 pm

I like west coast idea, dart the fuckers when they are noncompliant with instructions. But know this, that would prove lethal to a few with certain existing medical conditions.

Llpoh
Llpoh
September 2, 2015 9:13 pm

Sensetti –

If they say you are under arrest, then maybe. But if they just are giving instructions, they have no business tazing anyone.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
September 2, 2015 9:38 pm

Sensetti says:
“The facts will prevail!”

Facts may prevail but justice won’t!

Do Beaner Lives Matter?

Zebra
Zebra
September 3, 2015 12:37 am

Cops are just a bunch of prehistoric unionized dangerous gang members loyally serving the interests of our owners. And they don’t even know it!

ASIG
ASIG
September 3, 2015 12:45 am

If you slowly step through the 54-57 seconds, at 54 his hands are down and the black background over his left shoulder is angled down to his left. Clearly his shoulder is rounded down. At the 56 seconds his right arm goes up first followed quickly by his left arm. At 56-57 seconds his left arm goes up because the white of his left shoulder is angled up which means his left arm is up as well as his right, if you can’t see that then get yourself a better graphics card and a better monitor.

Both his hands were up, he wasn’t moving, he wasn’t a threat to anyone at that moment, and they shot him anyway.

That is flat out murder.

Sensetti
Sensetti
September 3, 2015 7:35 am

http://youtu.be/60a2xIz600A

If an individual is not fucking smart enough to follow simple instructions they are automatically a threat. Watch this video!! At what point should the cop shoot, after the first bullet is coming his way? Bullshit, when the man aggressively moves towards the office against his instructions, that’s when you drop his ass in his tracks you don’t wait till the gun comes out!

Sensetti
Sensetti
September 3, 2015 7:39 am

ASIG you are full of shit at the time the shot is fired you cannot see the guys left arm at all, the fucking phone pole is in the way!

Sensetti
Sensetti
September 3, 2015 8:06 am

My ONLY point is, this video standing alone doesn’t prove shit. Someone better have more evidence than this if they want to hang the cops! If anything it show this “soon to be corpse” was walking around putting his hands in the air, dropping his hands, attacking in a threatening manner. Don’t forget the deceased individuals mindset will be well documented by the person or persons who called the law on him in the first place. They did not call the police because he was sitting quietly reading his bible. The cops may very well be guilty, but this video definitively proves nothing!

Stucky
Stucky
September 3, 2015 8:26 am

Sensetti

The video seems clear enough to me. No shirt (no weapons there!), and shorts that don’t seem to have pockets. Yet, you are all upset and scared because the guy makes gestures with his arms?? Oh yeah, and he doesn’t OBEY!, so shoot the fucker dead. NOPE, THERE’S NO OTHER SOLUTION!!

For a tough guy who cab bench 5,000 pounds with one arm, you sure seem like a pussy-boy at times.

harry p.
harry p.
September 3, 2015 9:09 am

bb,
No rise out of me, my whole response was easy, all i did was a simple word replacement for 2 words and it makes your statement chilling and idiotic.

Just because he video we saw doesnt show his left hand definitively doesnt mean

Sensetti, I know it will fall on deaf ears but I always come back to a simple question: if a person came onto my or your property in exactly that situation and he maybe made hand gestures (possibly because firearms were being pointed at him) and me or you shot him and killed him in exactly that manner with the exact same video footage would me or you be on paid desk duty and not arrested with the available evidence?
I highly doubt that we would be.
I want to see the video that it seems the DA doesnt want to release before passing final absolute judgement but if they refuse to release it i consider that telling enough that it only further incriminates them.

On a completely seperate note, have you ever tried CKD?

Sensetti
Sensetti
September 3, 2015 10:28 am

There’s another video from a neighbor! I want it released today, let’s put this to rest, it was either an execution or a valid shooting.

Sensetti
Sensetti
September 3, 2015 10:50 am

Before deputies Robert Sanchez and Greg Vasquez opened fire, Flores had punched and cut his wife and hurt her child, was acting violently and had forced his family inside the home, the sources said.

Flores was angry because he was told he could not be at the home, according to one of the sources.

Flores later came out of the home, and by then, the two on-scene deputies had radioed supervisors.

“The supervisors told the deputies to not let him back in the house if he came out,” one of the sources said. “They were preparing to send out SWAT and crisis negotiators.”

RELATED: Sheriff: Videos show Gilbert Flores’ hands raised before deputies opened fire, cause for ‘concern’

According to the sources, Flores emerged from the house, and tried to stab one deputy, but he blocked the knife with a Plexiglass shield.

“He would have stabbed the deputy if he did not have that shield,” said one of the sources.

The other deputy tried to use a Taser on Flores, but the probes didn’t completely strike him.

At one point, Flores tried to get back in the house, then into a personal car and also in a BCSO squad car, but couldn’t.

The second video, shot by one of Flores’ neighbors from inside a nearby home, shows more of the confrontation than the initial video and is “much closer and much clearer,” said one source.

“You can hear them (the neighbors recording the second video), saying, ‘Why aren’t they shooting him?'” that source said.

RELATED: More than 30 people killed in Bexar County by law enforcement officers since 2010

“It’s unfortunate,” that source said. “When you see that first video, everyone thinks, ‘oh man,’ but that second video supposedly gives you more of a perspective of why they fired.”

“The important thing here is that’s why you don’t rush to judgment,” that source said. “The first video didn’t show the several minutes leading to the shooting.”

At one point, Flores reached in his pocket and pulled his hands out and up, the deputies saw the knife and fired, the two sources said.

READ FULL ARTICLE
http://m.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Bexar-police-shooting-San-Antonio-hands-up-6481111.php

Well now, things might be changing! Here’s an excerpt on the above article

Sensetti
Sensetti
September 3, 2015 10:53 am

What is beginning to take shape is a case of suicide by cop.