Why They Hate Us

A frequent theme nowadays is “Why do they hate us?” meaning why does so much of the world detest the United States. The reasons given are usually absurd: They hate our freedom or democracy. They hate us for our cultural superiority. They hate us because we are wonderful.

No. Actually the reason is simple if unpalatable. They hate us because we meddle, and have meddled. They hate us because we are the most murderous nation on the planet. They hate our insufferable smugness.

People remember slights. They may not remember them as they actually happened, but they remember them. The Civil War ended in 1865, the Federal occupation in 1877. Yet today many Southerners are still bitter, to the point that their emotional loyalty is to the South, not to Washington.

Silly? Yes, if you are from the North. Grievances matter more to those aggrieved than to the aggrievers.

In Guadalajara, near my home in Mexico, a towering monument in a traffic circle honors Los Niños Héroes, the Heroic Children. These are the little boys who, when the invading American armies attacked Chapultepec in 1847, went out to fight for their country. Avenues are named Niños Héroes all over Mexico. Few Americans even know that there was a war.

Wounds to national pride gall people, and endure. Exactly why, I don’t know, but it happens. Consider China. How many have heard of the Opium Wars of 1839 and 1856? Or understand that the United States and the European powers simply occupied such parts of China as they chose, forced opium sales on China, imposed extraterritoriality, and bloodily suppressed the Boxers? How many people have even heard of the Boxers?

Over a billion Chinese.

My point is not that China is morally superior to the United States. It isn’t. However, if you want to understand why so many countries loathe us, you have to understand how they see us. Whether you agree is irrelevant. Nor does it matter whether their grievances are factual. For example, many South Americans believe their countries to be poor because of exploitation by America. This isn’t true, which doesn’t matter at all.

A few years back I was in Laos and chatted with a young Lao woman. She mentioned in passing the death of her father. What happened to him, I asked? Oh, she said, he died fighting the Americans. A war that many Americans saw as a meritorious crusade against communism was, to the countries involved, an inexplicable attack that killed their fathers and brothers and children. They didn’t see why the internal affairs of their country were America’s business.

Agree with them or don’t, but that’s why they hate us.

Countries usually see their own virtues and the warts of others. Americans, perhaps because they do not much travel, carry this to an extreme and regard their country as superior to all others. The attitude is highly annoying. Consider the US from the point of view of others:

America is both a rogue state and a bully, constantly attacking countries hopelessly inferior in military strength — Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, Panama, Cuba, Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan, etc. Civil rights? The US has more people in prison than any other country. Many of our cities are festering slums. The world saw the victims of Katrina. Morality? The country is rife with drugs, crime, sex. Culture? In education, American students are annually shown to be inferior to those of Thailand, Hungary, Singapore, and so on. America is tasteless and sordid. Look at the movies….

Yes, yes, some of that isn’t fair, and an American might ask, for example, how an Arab country, practicing female circumcision and not allowing girls to study, can lecture anyone on morality. I agree. But how they see things determines their attitudes.

In Google Images, search on “Abu Ghraib.” You will see American Army women grinning as they torture and humiliate Arab men. They are having a wonderful time, and the whole world can see those pictures.  This was American policy — low-ranking girl soldiers do not undertake this kind of thing without approval from command.  The general in charge was a woman. Torture is still American policy.

Stalin did this sort of thing. So did Adolf. So did Pol Pot. And so does the United States. Other countries know it. (Google recently pulled its ads from Antiwar.com because the site posted an Abu Ghraib photo. Does Google support torture, or did the Feds threaten….? Nah. Impossible. Not our government.) When I think how other countries react, I cringe.

Below the Rio Bravo? The first rule of American hemispheric diplomacy south of Texas should be “Don’t get into Latin faces unless you have to.” The US has a long history, of which most Americans aren’t aware, of meddling to the south. At least three invasions of Mexico depending on whether Veracruz counts as an invastion or just a bombardment), at least one of Panama, the installation of Pinochet in Chile and of support for various Central American dictators, United Fruit, the Canal Zone, the Bay of Pigs, on and on and on. These things are remembered.

A couple of examples of abjectly stupid, obnoxious meddling: First, many decades back, Mexico had a comic-book character called Memin Pinguin, a caricature black kid with exaggerated lips and so on who had adventures with white friends. In 2005, Mexico issued postage stamps with Memin’s picture, as we might of Elvis. To Mexicans it was innocent nostalgia. Yet in America outrage erupted. Jesse Jackson attacked the Mexican government and George Bush denounced the stamps as racism. People here were furious: Mexico couldn’t even issue postage stamps without approval from Washington.

Second: In 2006 , some Cuban businessmen took a room in the Sheraton in Mexico City. Washington got wind of it and forced Sheraton, an American company, to eject them. Childish, pointless, it enraged Mexicans who see Cuba as yet another small country being bullied by the US, and regarded the ejection as meddling with national sovereignty. The effect of course was to fan sympathy for Cuba.

Further, we tend to see things through lenses of moralistic abstractions: Democracy is good, and freedom is good, and therefore if we bomb Iraq and kill many thousands of soldiers who are someone’s husbands, brothers, children, and fathers, the survivors will throw flowers and turn into Fifth Century Athens. It’s all right to destroy cities because we say we have good intentions.

People detest condescension. Yet we lecture Russia and China condescendingly on human rights, and speak openly of committing “regime change” in various countries as if we had a divine right to determine their form of government. It smells of armed mommyism, which no one can stand.

It is even worth reflecting that our “democracy” and “freedom” do not look as resplendent as we might think to the people of a more collective-minded and well-run country. Try Singapore. Neither democratic nor free in our sense, it is prosperous, free of crime, without a drug problem (a country that executes drug dealers has few of them), enjoys schools far better than ours; lacks graffiti, vandalism, and trash in the streets, and has a high degree of technological advancement. Its people quietly regard themselves as civilizationally superior to a degraded America in decline. (Humility is not a besetting sin of the Chinese.)

Why do we not behave more sensibly? Americans obviously are not stupid people. Dummies don’t build Mars rovers. Yet we seem to have a wanton, almost genetic non-grasp of how others think — which means that we can’t predict what they will do. Often Americans just don’t care what others think. This of course plays into the hands of Hugo Chavez and bin Laden.

That’s why they hate us. We meddle.

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Nismo
Nismo
September 4, 2015 1:01 am

As a Kiwi with long and strong ties to the US I couldn’t agree with you more.

I love the American people I know and I really enjoy travelling around your country and meeting new people. What astounds is the disconnect the average person has from the idea of country and government. Most love the country and generally about half rabidly opposes the current government irrespective or Rep or Dem and blames just them for the ills of the country. It’s really quite crazy.

In 2011, Danios wrote: Below, I have reproduced a year-by-year timeline of America’s wars, which reveals something quite interesting: since the United States was founded in 1776, she has been at war during 214 out of her 235 calendar years of existence.

America wars because it profitable, not for any noble means. Iraq is fucked, Afghanistan is fucked Vietnam was fucked (until the US left) They sell noble reason for war but it’s all bullshit. If it was for real Bush would have invaded Saudi Arabia not Afghanistan and Iraq. The economy is tanking shall we play who’s the US going to invade in 2016?

the tumbleweed
the tumbleweed
September 4, 2015 2:10 am

Mexican cuckold Fred Reed is a real goober. Hiding down in his adopted country (who only tolerates him for the pesos he can provide) he thinks he has the moral high ground, spewing collectivist bullshit left and right. “They” hate “us” because “we” meddle. Well, Fred, your 10th grade understanding of the world needs some improvement. Most Americans haven’t done anything to anyone, yet because it is the nature of all governments meddle (if they have the resources to do so) and because America has had the biggest, most successful government in the past 75 years it seems no surprise that they have done the most meddling. Still, way to paint 300 million people with a broad brush for the actions of a handful of politicians and their willing enforcers.

As if the Holy Land of Mexico doesn’t meddle? How about sending millions of their own dregs and Central Americans up to the “Rio Bravo” as you call it on La Bestia? I’m sure that was just an oversight.

James
James
September 4, 2015 5:37 am

Excellent article – except Hugo Chavez should not be down graded to be listed next to bin Laden.

Another recent excellent article for the Red Necks here to spew over is by an American of note
Chris Hedges. He was part of the team of reporters at The New York Times awarded a Pulitzer Prize in 2002 for the paper’s coverage of global terrorism. He also received the Amnesty International Global Award for Human Rights Journalism in 2002

Chris Hedges Author of the New York Times best seller “Days of Destruction” said recently : “We in the United States are not morally superior to Islamic State. We are responsible for over a million dead in Iraq and 4 million Iraqis who have been displaced or forced to become refugees. We kill in greater numbers. We kill more indiscriminately. Our drones, warplanes, heavy artillery, naval bombardments, machine guns, missiles and so-called special forces—state-run death squads—have decapitated far more people, including children, than Islamic State has. When Islamic State burned a Jordanian pilot alive in a cage it replicated what the United States does daily to families by incinerating them in their homes in bombing strikes. It replicated what Israeli warplanes do in Gaza. Yes, what Islamic State did was cruder. But morally it was the same”

Read the full article if you have the stomach for it —
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_great_unraveling_20150830

SVarghese
SVarghese
September 4, 2015 7:34 am

Why are you Americans given to so much self loathing? Do Indians hate America? Yes, but those who are quick to judge and hate America are those who want to get a residency at the first opportunity. Do Indians hate China? Not at all because we are so good neighbors and Indians want to make a grand alliance to take on the West. Do you want to go to China? No sir, not at all. I call this hypocrisy. Some of the hatred is because of America’s meddling in internal affairs of nations but most of the hatred is concealed jealousy because of America’s prestige and economic and military might.

Is the American government good? It may be as bad as any other but no worse than others. Compare India, Pakistan, China, Russia etc. Does that mean America per se is bad? When citizens of other nations say they hate America it is like a neighbor who hates you but long to be at your dinner table to take part in the delicacies being served. Is that hatred? Why is it that these people no sooner than they reach the shores of America become so vehement in their support of their adopted country?

I know a family friend’s relative who is a staunch communist. He is beholden to USSR and now China. His arguments are stupid anyway. His child/children are in the US working and support their dad and he visits them sometimes. You hate your neighbor but your livelihood comes from working as a maid in your neighbor’s house. Not only do you get support but also you get to visit them. I call all of this BS.

America has lot of bad things but it’s worst is better than what is offered in countries which hate America. As the influence of the evangelical Christianity diminishes in American social life America’s greatness will diminish and so for the Western world as a whole. The diminishing has already begun. Who will take the West’s place? Nobody knows.

So don’t take the haters that seriously because most of them would dies to be part of what you call America. Stop the self-loathing and understand this is a fallen world and things will get worse. There are no more nations which has the moral fiber to take up America’s role beginning from the 2nd half of 21st century.

Overthecliff
Overthecliff
September 4, 2015 7:50 am

The crap expressed in these America self hate is a symptom of the “white guilt” disease . At least Fred takes it to the logical conclusion and moved out.