Question of the Day, Nov 5

Historically, fiat currency lasts about 100 years. Ours is 102. Will it be different this time?


Author: Back in PA Mike

Crotchety middle aged man with a hot younger wife dead set on saving this Country.

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Persnickety
Persnickety
November 5, 2015 12:02 pm

The USD didn’t become pure fiat until Nixon closed the gold window in 1971, so by that measure it’s only 44 years old (of fiat) and barely middle aged.

However, past performance is no guarantee of future results. 🙂 I would bet on the USD being significantly impaired within the next 10 years, probably 5 or fewer.

A major issue is that for now, no other currency looks better – if you want to invest long term in Chinese currency I have a couple of Brooklyn Bridges to sell you. A matched set of 24, actually, complete with the original blueprints of each and a signed collector’s card.

TPTB are pushing hard for SDR’s as part of the NWO / one world government, but that is going to see lots of resistance. I expect in 10-20 years we will have something claiming to be a legitimate one world government but not respected outside of a few enclaves. Rather like the nominal government of Somalia from c. 1990-2012.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
November 5, 2015 12:03 pm

The bankers are flexing their power right now to make Bitcoin illegal in the U.S. just as the U.S. Marshall sell off 44,000 of the remain Bitcoins seize from Silk Road today.

The treacherous asshole Jamie Dimon on Bitcoin:

“You’re wasting your time (with Bitcoin)! Virtual currency, where it’s called a bitcoin vs. a U.S. dollar, that’s going to be stopped,” said Dimon. “No government will ever support a virtual currency that goes around borders and doesn’t have the same controls. It’s not going to happen.”

“Blockchain is like any other technology. If it is cheaper, effective, works, and secure, then we are going to use it. The technology will be used, and it could be used to transport currency, but it will be dollars, not bitcoins.”

All these banker shitstains are trying to steal the underlining technology of Bitcoin (the Blockchain) for their own use and then making Bitcoin illegal. This won’t work because of the “form follows function” design principle.

Blockchain and Bitcoin are tethered together by design, Satochi was a smart person(s) to do this.

Iconoclast421
Iconoclast421
November 5, 2015 12:15 pm

Yeah but did any of those currencies represent more than even just 5% of total global fiat money? Weimer Germany was certainly one of the biggest but the Ruhr occupation played a huge role in their hyperinflation. It wasnt just money printing that got out of control…. they suffered massive losses to industrial output. It would be like the US losing the entire midwest’s industrial output.

rhs jr
rhs jr
November 5, 2015 12:23 pm

They want emoney and chips for all buying and selling (only) with positive bionic ID’s within a couple years; the SHTF is soon.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
November 5, 2015 12:25 pm

If we become a leading oil/ natural gas supplier- Yes it will be different

If we stay on the same path as today – No it will not be different

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  Bea Lever
November 5, 2015 1:09 pm

Bank Of Ireland Bans “Small” Cash Withdrawals At Branches

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 11/05/2015 13:03 -0500

As central planners the world over grapple with the effective “lower bound” that’s imposed by the existence of physical banknotes, there’s been no shortage of calls for a ban on cash.

Put simply, if you eliminate physical currency, you also eliminate the idea of a floor for depo rates.

After all, if people can’t withdraw paper money and stash it under the mattress, then interest rates can be as negative as the government wants them to be in order to “encourage” consumption. If, for instance, you’re being charged 10% for saving your money, then by God you will probably spend that money rather than see the bank collect a double-digit fee just for holding on to your paycheck.

In the absence of physical cash, there’s no way for depositors to avoid that rather unpalatable outcome unless the public starts buying hard assets like commodities with their debit cards. If you think that sounds far-fetched, just consider the fact that everyone from Citi’s Willem Buiter to economist Ken Rogoff to the German Council Of Economic Experts’ Peter Bofinger have now floated the idea.

“With today’s technical possibilities, coins and notes are in fact an anachronism,” Bofinger told Spiegel back in May.

Now, in what should be a wake up call to the world, Bank of Ireland has banned branch withdrawals of less than €700.

Seriously.

Here’s The Irish Times explaining that tellers will still assist the “elderly” if they have trouble using automated methods of obtaining cash:

Under new rules, designed to streamline in-branch services, Bank of Ireland said withdrawals of less than €700 will no longer be facilitated with the assistance of tellers.

From mid-November, customers will have to use ATMs or mobile devices for small and modest-sized withdrawals.

Lodgements of up to €3,000 and those involving less than 15 cheques will also have to use the bank’s dedicated lodgement ATMs.

“Bank of Ireland understands these changes may be a new way of banking for some of our customers, and the branch teams will be available to help and guide them through this change,” the bank said in a statement.

So, if you are, i) wanting less than €700, ii) have less than 15 checks to deposit, or iii) aren’t looking to put at least €3,000 into your account, you are no longer welcome inside Bank of Ireland branches.

For his part, Irish Finance Minister Michael Noonan seems to think that this is, for lack of a better description, absolutely nuts:

Minister for Finance Michael Noonan has described restrictions to be imposed by Bank of Ireland on over-the-counter lodgements and withdrawals as both “surprising and unnecessary”.

“I expect the bank to fully honour this commitment and ensure that customers will be facilitated through the existing arrangements where required. I would welcome a clarification form Bank of Ireland on the issue,” he said in a statement.

Yes, Noonan is demanding some “clarification,” and you should too, before you discover that the world’s central bankers planners have absconded with your physical cash on the way to instituting a regime that will allow for the micromanagement of your purchasing decisions.

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 5, 2015 2:34 pm

Fiat money collapses soon after its issuance exceeds the new production of real goods by the economy issuing it.

How much issuance in relation to production determines the speed of the collapse.

The Stock Market will not be supporting the dollar for much longer since it doesn’t represent new production of real goods anymore and the part of it that still does is diminishing is size with stock buybacks using newly issued fiat being the basis of its currently high numbers.

fear & loathing
fear & loathing
November 5, 2015 6:13 pm

hey stucky, your optimism of fed reserve note means i will miss the big party when it evaporates. the petro dollar is stressing, who knows the ruble may get stronger.

gm
gm
November 5, 2015 6:45 pm

The privately owned central banks of the world have always abused the system of currency creation. First thru inflation, then deflation. I think they are gearing up for a Lord of the Rings version of One Bank To Rule Them And in The Darkness Bind Them absolutely for all time .
Saw a shirt today ,it said, Got Lead?

Llpoh
Llpoh
November 5, 2015 8:09 pm

Remind me – who is in control of Zimbabwe? It was once the jewel of Africa.