vDare, HBD, and Me: A Great Weariness

I’m going to break something. Or maybe kick the dog.

Sometimes it seems to me that I am the only gringo on this whole sorry planet who does not think Mexicans are scum–filthy, perverted, and witless.  They are not, dammit. If you want to criticize Mexico, stick to facts, such as that it is corrupt to the roots of its teeth and terribly governed, that the narcos are out of control, the police criminals, and that it qualifies as a failed state by some (reasonable) definitions. And they play loud music at three a.m. during fiestas. All of this is true.

But spare me the twaddle. In fact, spare everybody the twaddle. No matter who does what, there are going to be a lots of Mexicans in the US, or more correctly American citizens of Mexican descent. Maybe the public ought to have an accurate idea of them. But no. We get twaddle, chiefly from sites like vDare, from groups calling themselves the Human Bio-diversity (hbd) movement, and from Ann (“Legs”) Coulter. Example::

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Juarez Monument, Mexico City, from the site Those Who Can See, a typical Roaring Right hbd site.

Well, I concede that the photo is pretty shocking. What sort of people would leave mounds of garbage on the grounds of their national monuments?

Since this pile of  trash bore no resemblance to anything I had seen in Mexico (where I have lived for thirteen years), I spent fifteen seconds with Google Images and found dozens of photos of the monument with no trash.  How was this, I wondered? Photoshop? Political HBDers are capable of it.

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Juarez Monument, from Google Images.

One photo however did show trash. Since the garbage photo by-line said NPR, it took another fifteen seconds on Google to turn up an NPR  story on how a snafu in the closing of a landfill in the city had led to a brief pile-up of trash. (Wrote NPR, “Closure Of Massive Landfill Leaves Trash Piling Up In Mexico City … The trash buildup reminds us of what happened in New York City, when it suspended trash collection in January after a massive winter storm dumped more than two feet of snow on the city.”)

Deliberate misrepresentation. A better word is “lying.”  There is much of this in such venues.

In this year alone I have been in Chapala (where I live), Ajijic (next door, take a peek at these), Guadalajara, Arandas, Jamay, Durango, Aguas Calientes, Zacatecas, La Paz, Merida, Guanajuato,Mazatlan, Puerto Vallarta, and literally a couple of dozen other towns and cities. There was nothing resembling the photo.

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An equally typical American city (Detroit)

In similar sites, I read of Mexican school-children in places like Los Angeles as being violent, incapable of learning, and dirty. Maybe so. I haven’t been there. But in town after town here I see well-behaved kids in school uniforms carrying book bags. In hbd sites I read of Mexican children in the US being left in dirty diapers and generally neglected. Could be. I haven’t been there. But the Mexican norm is great fondness for kids. You can find some of anything in a big country, but I have never seen a dirty diaper here. On the street or on a kid.

As mentioned, vDare is another  site subscribing to the principle that it doesn’t have to be true as long as it feels good. The vDaristas are against massive immigration, which is fine with me, but a little honesty might be season the broth.

Briefly, so as not to bore the reader into a coma: Some time ago Ann Coulter, a political steam whistle who serves as the Michael Moore of the Disturbed Right, was saying that the “age of consent” in Mexico is twelve. What a horrible country: See? Screwing little girls is legal.  This is very much a tactic of the lumpen-hbd: attribute sexually revolting behavior to anyone you don’t like. Coulter’s assertions appeared all over the web.

This, like the trash story, struck me as nonsense. Mexico until recently was a traditional society in which the upper classes, who put a high premium on virginity of females at marriage, made the laws. Hidalgos do not pass laws making it legal for the gardener to screw their children. Coulter’s grasp of the world seems to end at the Jersey border.

I got on the horn and spoke to Aracele Diaz, a university classmate of Violeta and a practicing attorney in Guadalajara. That’s crazy, she said. I next went to Francisca, another classmate, who works in human-rights in Jalisco. That’s crazy, she said, and emailed me the law. I then talked to Marta Villarreal, also professionally active in human rights and an ardent feminist in the American mold. If screwing little girls of twelve were legal, you wouldn’t need Coulter to tell you about it. Marta’s shrieks would shatter the polar ice-caps. “It’s not true. They don’t understand the law….”

A reporter would have checked (maybe a call to the Mexican Embassy? I believe telephones have reached New York) but vDare doesn’t care and Coulter isn’t a  reporter. (If I were rude, which I emphatically am not, I would say that if she were a trilobite, she would have her encephalon in her pygidium. But she isn’t a trilobite.)

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Miss Coulter’s er, legs, in which she apparently believes that the public has great interest. A woman in her mid-fifties, which she is, who tries to look like a prom queen is clearly an attention-junkie, which may explain her disregard of truth.

OK. Thinking that vDare might lapse into veracity if I rubbed its nose in it, I found the actual Mexican law on the internet (a few minutes), posted it, translated it as I doubted that many vDaristas could read it, and included links. Hey, gang. Wake up. See? Here it is. Right here.

To this day vDare still insists that the age sigh.  Useless. It’s like instructing a cinder block in geometry. The appalling thing is that the yoyo who wrote the insistence doesn’t even know what “age of consent” means. It’s the schools. They’re going to hell.

Then there is the insistence among the lumpen-pseudo-hbders that Mexicans are inherently mega-criminal. This is now so firmly embedded on the internet that any question of it is regarded as a mark of insanity. Is it true?

The Mexican cartels are certainly neck-deep in the drug trade and kill each other enthusiastically, much like the Italian Mafia (which, by the way, still exists and is still Italian). Further, with at least 54,000,000 Latinos in the US, you can certainly find enough rapists to fill a web page.

Howsomever, I find (the very conservative) Heather Mac Donald of the Manhattan Institute, who analyzed data from the Department of Justice. (New DOJ Statistics on Race and Violent Crime | American Renaissance) In the past, the feds have lumped Hispanics and white offenders together, making it impossible to tell who was doing how much of what to whom. Mac Donald, note, is a conservative and no advocate of open borders. She found that Hispanics are 26% more likely than whites to commit a violent crime. Hardly admirable, but hardly a crime wave. Since she has opposed immigration she cannot easily be suspected of dodgy analysis.

The same conclusion was reached by Ron Unz, the best numerical analyst of my acquaintance, in The American Conservative, a magazine that is not  for massive immigration.  The piece, though long, is very well worth reading if you are interested in the subject. What it comes to is that if you look at the data, they do not say what the politico-lumpen-pseudos want them to say. His conclusion closely mirrored Mac Donald’s.

And now we have Coulter: “When it comes to child rape, the whole family gets involved. (Then  Coulter writes. “Far from ‘I am woman, hear me roar,’ these are cultures where women help the men rape kids.”

Yes, Miss Goebbels. And they eat human flesh. I will now go and kick the dog, who seems to be in hiding.

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Stucky
Stucky
November 27, 2015 7:56 am

Judging from the Mexican who posts here regularly, I’d say they’re pretty nice people.

Except for the ones that are not.

starfcker
starfcker
November 27, 2015 8:27 am

Liberalism is a dangerous mental disorder. Jeb reed loses his mind over mexicans. I get it , fred. You live there, you’ve made a family there. But I see mexicans every day. I sre them throw their mcdonalds bags out of their car windows. I see them dump their unwanted pets in publix parking lots

Billy
Billy
November 27, 2015 8:30 am

What Fred writes is blatantly untrue. A lie. He’s a liar’s liar.

I know, for a fact, that ALL Mess’kins are dirty, child-raping, drug-using, drug-smuggling, trashy, dirty, smelly, brown-skinned, stink-like-shit that they are, non-humans.

El Coyote is just one example of this that demonstrates my FACTS. He is not fit to make tortillas from the corn that makes it through my white, Aryan, gastro-intestinal tract.

I hope I’ve cleared up any misconceptions that reading Fred’s nonsense may have caused you.

Stucky
Stucky
November 27, 2015 8:34 am

“I know, for a fact, that ALL Mess’kins are dirty, child-raping, drug-using, drug-smuggling, trashy, dirty, smelly, brown-skinned, stink-like-shit that they are, non-humans.” ———– Billy

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starfcker
starfcker
November 27, 2015 8:37 am

Here is LA’s most wanted. Where are the blacks, fred? The other column you write besides whining about the misunderstood mexicans, is motherfucking the blacks. Yet in los angelos county (and houston, and phoenix), all the most wanted are……fred’s mexicans, not the blacks he loves to trash. http://www.lapdonline.org/top_ten_most_wanted

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
November 27, 2015 9:17 am

Mark Twain referred to this as a “corn pone opinion”.

“You tell me whar a man gits his corn pone, en I’ll tell you what his ‘pinions is.”

starfcker
starfcker
November 27, 2015 9:21 am

Well said, hsf

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
November 27, 2015 9:44 am

Fred is mostly right. Most Mexicans are fine, decent people. Unfortunately, the Mexican ruling class (with some honorable exceptions) has fomented anti-gringo hatred for more than 150 years. Also, Americans have every right to be angry at their own government for failing to stop the flow of illegal immigrants, be they Mexicans or anybody else.

The Mexican illegal immigrants come in two classes: those who simply want to work to earn money to bring home and the others. The others all too often resemble The Donald’s description of them – Mexico does send us their best.

As for Mexican resentment of the U.S., it has two main sources, one legitimate and one not legitimate. Mexicans have every right to be offended when their neighbors treat them as inferiors. As for our “theft” of Mexican territory, the land “taken” from Mexico in 1848 was NEVER effective Mexican territory and it had a miniscule Mexican population. The Mexican ruling class was enraged because the loss permanently assigned Mexico to second class status in North America, a Spanish-speaking Canada.

Overthecliff
Overthecliff
November 27, 2015 10:29 am

I usually agree with Fred but he is missing the boat on this one. The Mexican culture is so much less sophisticated than that of the Gringos. Our government thieves and fascist corporations and crony capitalists are so much more efficient than theirs. The Gringos make their corruption much less obvious as well.

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 27, 2015 10:43 am

“Sometimes it seems to me that I am the only gringo on this whole sorry planet who does not think Mexicans are scum–filthy, perverted, and witless.”.

They’re not, at least not as a whole, only the ones that come here illegally are.

Which is why Mexico wants them to come here and stay here instead of wanting them back.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
November 27, 2015 11:00 am

Sage says:

“The Mexican ruling class was enraged because the loss permanently assigned Mexico to second class status in North America, a Spanish-speaking Canada.”

Ouch.

The funny thing is most Canadians kind of look south with a bit of a raised eyebrow. If it was’t for warm weather (Maui is nice in January), cheap gas and Disney Land most would never consider crossing the line into what is often viewed as a bit of a Twilight Zone (from our perspective). It looks more or less the same but isn’t once you scratch the surface. Things are just different enough to keep people here. I suspect if Canada was second class you’d have the same problem on your northern border as you do on your southern. Which you don’t. Food for thought. Eh?

BuelahMan
BuelahMan
November 27, 2015 11:19 am

Fred’s ole lady must whip his ass regularly.

Gayle
Gayle
November 27, 2015 11:38 am

Maybe Fred hasn’t ever seen a dirty diaper. I’ve seen places in Mexico where that’s not an issue because the moms csn”t afford diapers at all.

BigStupid
BigStupid
November 27, 2015 11:46 am

@ Francis Marion

The cold makes us strong-like-bull – having to rebuild our igloos each winter helps too (free beer fridge for all, 6 months out of the year). Plus burger and fries has got nothing on some nice warm beaver.

Oh Canada – We love our beaver.

Desertrat
Desertrat
November 27, 2015 12:27 pm

Much of what Fred has written about the Mexican people is true, from what little I’ve seen of his area of experience. But there are exceptions.

Driving south from Ojinaga, Chihuahua, (across from Presidio, Texas) toward Camargo, the downwind fences and ditch along the highway are littered with plastic bags and disposed-of diapers.

Canada? I still remember a Canadian lady in a night club on Grand Turk: “The US is a great place to shop, but I CERTAINLY wouldn’t want to live there!” 🙂

Fiatman60
Fiatman60
November 27, 2015 12:27 pm

Having been to Mexico occasionally, I can say with certainty that it has no FSA like Canada does! So no….. they aren’t the same.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
November 27, 2015 12:56 pm

Ya eh! Beaver is good. You betcha!

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Francis Marion
Francis Marion
November 27, 2015 12:59 pm

@ Fiatman

FSA is a first world problem…. just like in America.

Canada is simply an America with a slightly European twist. Less commercial and slightly less fascist. Otherwise same problems – just a smaller scale. Think Norway with more cowboys, guns and beer….

AC
AC
November 27, 2015 1:48 pm

The biggest problem in Mexico is the pervasive, institutional corruption. When they sneak across the border, this comes with them.

Fiatman60
Fiatman60
November 27, 2015 1:54 pm

@ Francis and AC

Agreed….. I’ve seen it first hand down in Mexico…. blows me away!!

Montefrío
Montefrío
November 27, 2015 2:03 pm

I live in South America (11 years now) and lived for a year in Mexico in a seafront condo in Mazatlán owned (through intermediaries) by Hector (“el Guero”) Palma, one-time associate of the notorious fugitive and head of the Sinaloa cartel “el Chapo” Guzmán. Now that was a SAFE building! Go three blocks inland, however…

Most Mexicans, like most any people, are nice people, but Mexico’s their country, and not so much the USA. I don’t much care for Mexico and left as soon as the lease was up and have no intention of returning, not even for a visit, in spite of having Mexican friends. Too many bad impressions. Can’t blame ’em for wanting to leave (if I were still there, I certainly would), but don’t blame the gringos for wanting to limit their entry, but y’all have left it too late for that, compas. In any case, in time they’ll ally with y’all against the feral Afro-Ams and Latina women have those whiny white SJW warrior gals beat to shit six ways from Sunday!

Mahtomedi
Mahtomedi
November 27, 2015 3:28 pm

That’s the way to play it, Fred. IQ or crime data like you are so proficient at with the blacks? No. I’d want to keep my Gringo ass safe too. As would anybody who wanted to keep enjoying the laid-back lifestyle and cheap living down there. In fact, I’d hang the photo of Ann Coulter on the dart-board in the local cantina myself.

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
November 27, 2015 5:04 pm

I have nothing against Mexicans. Once upon a time my extended in-law family had family in Monterrey and we visited; these folks were kind, clean, middle-class Mexicans and genuinely excited to share their home with us.
What I DO have a problem with is people of any nationality breaking our laws by crossing the border illegally, and then for our laws to be bastardized in such a way to REWARD their illegal behavior.
Send them back home along with a bill to their government for our trouble. Just deduct it from their foreign aid payment.

bb
bb
November 27, 2015 6:23 pm

Meathead ,. I mean Westcoaster . For once I wholeheartedly agree your observations / view.

flash
flash
November 28, 2015 7:05 am

I mostly agree with Fred, but on this one he is so full of shit , he borders on being labeled a damned despicable pro -Mexican invasion liar.And maybe he is.Google Mexican mafia.They make the Italian mafia look like giggly Catholic schoolgirls..

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Mexicos Bloodbath That Wont Stop
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Mexican state sees surge of violence with dead numbering ‘in the …
The Guardian‎ – Nov 17, 2015
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Illegal Alien Crime Wave in Texas: 611,234 Crimes, 2,993 Murders …
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Jul 23, 2015 … The report describes an alien crime wave of staggering proportions exacerbated by federal officials … “Other Than Mexican” apprehensions.

Mexico’s crime wave has left about 25,000 missing, government …
https://www.washingtonpost.com/…/mexicos-crime-wave…/7ca4ee44-3a6a-11e2-9258-ac7c78d5c680_story.html
Nov 29, 2012 … Unpublished government numbers record names of those who vanished amid crime wave of past 6 years.

Elusive crime wave data shows frightening toll of illegal immigrant …
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