The Oligarchs’ Super-PAC Anti-Trump Savagery

Guest Post by Patrick J. Buchanan

The Oligarchs’ Super-PAC Anti-Trump Savagery

Narrow victories in the Kentucky caucuses and the Louisiana primary, the largest states decided on Saturday, have moved Donald Trump one step nearer to the nomination.

Primaries in Michigan, Mississippi and Idaho on March 8, and in Florida, Ohio, Illinois, Missouri and North Carolina on March 15, may prove decisive. If Marco Rubio does not win his home state of Florida, he is cooked, as is Gov. John Kasich if he does not win Ohio.

Ted Cruz already looks to be the last man between Trump and a GOP nomination that has gone, in the last seven elections, to George H. W. Bush, Bob Dole, George W. Bush, John McCain and Mitt Romney.

All five of those nominees since 1988 seem appalled by Trump’s triumphs, and only slightly less so by the Cruz alternative.

Not in memory has the leadership of a party been so out of touch. The Republican rank and file are in revolt, not only against the failures of their fathers but the policies of their present rulers.

Some among the GOP elites, who have waited patiently through the Obama era to recapture control of U.S. foreign policy, are now beside themselves with despair over Trump’s success.

Fully 116 members of the GOP’s national security community, many of them veterans of Bush administrations, have signed an open letter threatening that, if Trump is nominated, they will all desert, and some will defect – to Hillary Clinton!

“Hillary is the lesser evil, by a large margin,” says Eliot Cohen of the Bush II State Department. According to Politico’s Michael Crowley, Cohen helped line up neocons to sign the “Dump-Trump” manifesto.

Another signer, Robert Kagan, wailed in the Washington Post, “The only choice will be to vote for Hillary Clinton.”

Are they serious?

Victory for Clinton would mean her remaking the Supreme Court, killing all chances that Roe v. Wade could be overturned, or that we could get another justice like Antonin Scalia before 2021.

What are these renegades and turncoats so anguished about?

Trump calls the Iraq War many of them championed an historic blunder. Trump says that, while a supporter of Israel, he would be a “neutral” honest broker between Israel and the Palestinians in peace negotiations, as was Jimmy Carter at Camp David.

Trump says he would “get along very well” with Vladimir Putin, as Richard Nixon got along with Leonid Brezhnev and Mao Zedong.

Trump would launch no new crusades for democracy. He would not oppose Russia bombing ISIS. He would build that wall on the border. He would transfer from U.S. taxpayers to rich allies more of the cost of defending themselves.

Do not most Americans agree with much of this?

Yet this neocon ultimatum about deserting should the voters nominate Trump testifies eloquently to their loyalty.

With every ex-president and ex-nominee repudiating Trump, and foreign policy elites going rogue, the GOP hierarchy is saying: We will cut Trump dead, just as the Rockefeller-Romney crowd cut Barry Goldwater dead.

This is pure my-way-or-the-highway politics.

But it raises anew the question: Can the establishment stop Trump?

Answer: It is possible, and we shall know by midnight, March 15. If Trump loses Florida and Ohio, winner-take-all primaries, he would likely fall short of the 1,237 delegates needed for nomination on the first ballot.

How could the anti-Trump forces defeat him in Ohio, Florida and Illinois? With the same tactics used to shrink Trump’s victory margins in Virginia, Louisiana and Kentucky to well below what polls had predicted.

In every primary upcoming, Trump is under a ceaseless barrage of attack ads on radio, TV, cable and social media, paid for by super PACs with hoards of cash funneled in by oligarchs.

But Trump, who is self-funding his campaign, has spent next to nothing on ads answering these attacks, or promoting himself or his issues. He has relied almost exclusively on free media.

Yet no amount of free media can match the shellfire falling on him every hour of every day in every primary state.

Our Principles PAC, backed by Nebraska’s billionaire Ricketts family, has poured millions into trashing Trump. American Future Fund is dumping $1.75 million in Florida this week; Club for Growth $1.5 million.

Hedge-fund billionaire Paul Singer is backing the Conservative Solutions PAC, which has dumped millions into anti-Trump ads and plans to spend more than $7 million between March 1 and 15, with $4 million of that going into Florida. The super PAC pile-on is unprecedented.

How well Trump fares in Michigan and Mississippi, measured against how well he was doing in polls last week, will reveal just how successful super PAC savagery has been in changing hearts and minds.

Can millionaires and billionaires who back open borders, mass immigration, globalization and the disappearance of nation states into transnational collectives overwhelm with their millions spent in ads the patriotic movements that arose this year to the wonderment of America and the world?

Has that proud 18th century boast of Americans, “Here, sir, the people rule!” given way to the rule of the oligarchs?

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procrastinater
procrastinater
March 8, 2016 6:25 am

It is hard to believe how many Trump supporters I have seen on TBP. For a website that has shown great intellectual ability with members who can analyze and dissect many different issues of our culture, it is shocking that we would back a man that is incoherent, despicable, and clearly inexperienced when it comes to politics. He has not articulated any solutions to our debt crisis, our budget deficits, the Federal Reserve’s abuse of power, our ceaseless wars, etc. What he is best at is drawing hordes of attention by making personal attacks and outlandish statements.

Also, it just dawned on me that Trump could have easily run for the Senate all these years to gain experience and start at a realistic platform. Instead, being the egomaniac that he is, it’s either President or nothing.

Fuck Trump.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
March 8, 2016 7:20 am

procrastinater, TPB’ers see tRump as a giant middle finger to TPTB. They know he won’t actually get anything done and that in all likelihood TPTB will smoke his ass but he is the FUCK YOU vote that so many want to shove in the face of the establishment. If he doesn’t get fucked out of it, he will win by a landslide like HSF suggests.

I don’t know much about gambling but I wonder if the Vegas bookies are taking bets on how many heart beats he has left yet like Malley-No-Show in The Gauntlet.

Lysander
Lysander
March 8, 2016 7:23 am

Hell, Ron Paul WAS a politician with many, many years experience and he was marginalized and ignored in two elections for POTUS.

What do you want? 10 term Senator Jesus H. Christ to run?

Note from Idaho
Note from Idaho
March 8, 2016 7:29 am

The Trump candidacy threatens the “Political Industry Complex” of this country.

The complex: is a collection of pundits, consultants, bloggers, opinion writers and media outlets. All of whom make their exorbitant living, as parasites on the big business of which our political system today.

Trump maybe actually change the system described above and it scares the hell out of them.

Stucky
Stucky
March 8, 2016 7:37 am

“He has NOT ARTICULATED ANY SOLUTIONS to our debt crisis, our budget deficits, the Federal Reserve’s abuse of power, our ceaseless wars, etc.” —————– procrastinater

Amen, and Amen.

And ya wanna know why? Repeat three times after me —

— Trump-eteers just don’t give a shit about the issues
— Trump-eteers just don’t give a shit about the issues
— Trump-eteers just don’t give a shit about the issues

Now three moar times

— It’s about hate and the “fuck you” vote
— It’s about hate and the “fuck you” vote
— It’s about hate and the “fuck you” vote

Now ….

… click your heels, wish upon a star, and blow a unicorn.

Congrats!!! You are now a TRUMP-ETEER!!! (So easy a caveman can do it.)

SpecOpsAlpha
SpecOpsAlpha
March 8, 2016 7:42 am

The Walking Dead zombies are these elites that just want to eat and eat and eat…all without thought or conscience (esp conscience). They would eat their own mothers, fathers, and children in their lust for power.

But what happens when the Eaters run out of victims? What happens if the victims hide safely away in something like a Galt’s Gulch?

kokoda
kokoda
March 8, 2016 8:06 am

Trump is a dead duck. All other candidates (Dem and Rep) have stated:

They will balance the budget, thus lowering debt
They will solve the immigration issue
They are all experienced politicians (that care about America)
They are good, honest, respectful candidates
They will not continue with Regime Change which kills millions
They all support auditing the Fed
They all saw Stucky sucking the Unicorn’s Dick.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
March 8, 2016 8:07 am

Warmongers. SJW’s. Radical Islam. Globalists. Open Border Advocates. Angry minorities. Feminists. MSM. Political Party Hacks. The EU. Wall Street. Progressives. LGBT. Neo-Cons.

What do all of these groups have in common?

They unilaterally oppose the Trump candidacy, 100%, lockstep. Every single opposing faction that are normally under any other circumstance at each other’s throats have joined together for one common cause that they can all agree upon.

Look up on that list and figure out which group best represents you. If you can’t find one, then it’s likely you’ve already decided to vote for Trump.

Stucky, I understand your distaste for the man, personally I object for one of the only reasons I have never seen articulated by any group or person since this began- he dispossesses his own families, one after another. I don’t care that he provides for them financially, he abandoned three previous marriages with children despite his vows before God and family. To me, that makes him a man of extremely low character and the singular reason I would never support him.

But the fact remains that you cannot continue to echo the empty refrain that it is about anger, or low information, or stupidity. It is akin to being under fire and running low on ammo and facing overwhelming odds from the enemy when all of a sudden out of nowhere another person starts firing at them from your side. It doesn’t matter what kind of rifle he is using or the color of his uniform, only that you are both taking fire from a common enemy.

I hope that helps.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 8, 2016 8:08 am

Ed says- Pat is still writing apologia for his beloved party.

More Repug horn tooting by Pat , eh , Mr Ed?

flash
flash
March 8, 2016 8:08 am

anon was I .

Dean
Dean
March 8, 2016 8:25 am

Given the massive powers which have been delegated to the POTUS in the past 15 years (such as the NDAA), the next President legally will practically have the authority to basically call anyone he wants a traitor, detain them, and execute them.

I can imagine that, in those cases, Trump might actually threaten the oligarchs and get things done. Would Trump make a list of people who tried to royally screw him over during this process, NDAA them, and put their heads on pikes around D.C.? I hope not, but maybe he would! Would die hard Trump supporters actually embrace such actions? Maybe! I know more than a few who would be delighted to see oligarch heads lined up throughout D.C.

It sure feels like the 4th turning is heating up, and likely will be a huge civil war between the protected classes (oligarchs, DC insiders, Military Industrial Complex, federal government beneficiaries) and the unprotected classes (middle class, lower middle class, working class, liberty fans).

If the Republican leadership betrays their members to avoid a Cruz or Trump Presidency, things far worse than the end of the Republican party are likely. Yikes! Maybe it’s just time for the Oligarchs to back down and let the political process work. The alternatives are too troubling.

Stucky
Stucky
March 8, 2016 8:28 am

“But the fact remains that you cannot continue to echo the empty refrain that it is about anger, or low information, or stupidity.” ————- HF

So you say. BUT, you opened with this …

“Warmongers. SJW’s. Radical Islam. Globalists. Open Border Advocates. Angry minorities. Feminists. MSM. Political Party Hacks. The EU. Wall Street. Progressives. LGBT. Neo-Cons.”

HA! The very definition of “low information” and “stupidity”. Dumb, stupid fuckers who PISS US OFF at every turn.

So solly, my friend. Don’t spin it! The Trump vote IS about anger and “fuck you”. Absolutely nothing about this election is more clear than that.

Stucky
Stucky
March 8, 2016 8:42 am

“Stucky, I understand your distaste for the man,” ——— HF

I do like his entertainment value. I absolutely LOVE how all of the mainstream (news, media, politicians, etc) and all the degenerates (fags, dykes, democraps, mooslms etc etc) are going bat shit crazy. Almost makes me want to vote for him. The enemy of my enemy sort of thing.

But, yeah … the man himself repulses me for the most part. There are too many reasons to list, not to mention no one gives a shit. But, you brought up an excellent one.

I’ll give you one more. Yesterday in Mississippi he gave a speech. Being in the Deep South, he decided to go all-in with the religion aspect. His message? Jeebus loves Donald, and Donald loves Jeebus!!!

At one point he said this, verbatim — “I am a good Christian.”

HO-LEEEE FUUUUCK!!! What a pandering cocksucker! You know WHO says their a “good Christian”? I’ll tell you ….. a BAD Christian!! Assholes who are full of THEMSELVES, and who lack the Spirit of the Lord, that’s who.

Not even Jesus said he was good. I guess Donald is better than Jesus.

=======================

Luke 18: 18-19

A ruler questioned Him, saying, “Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?”

And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone.

Stucky
Stucky
March 8, 2016 8:57 am

“Stucky, I understand your distaste for the man,” ——— HF

Continuing ….

Trump is what he is. I actually have more distaste for Trump-eteers. I said this a couple days ago in an other thread that was about dead. I’ll repeat it here.

I have no problem with the “fuck you” voters, or the angry voters. Really. These people are NOT Trump-eteers. They are simply frustrated and angry and want to stick it to the establishment. Have at it!

A Trump-eteer is the person who actually believes Trump’s bullshit. A Trump-eteer actually believes sloganeering and empty promises will make America great again. A Trump-eteer actually believes that Donald is “different — not one of them” … MERELY because he’s not a politician. This is hilarious. A Trump-eteer will immediately vote down at the slightest hint of criticizing their newly found savior. Trump-eteers live in their own hopey-changey world of alternate reality where any day now unicorns will shit bitcoins in their Wheaties.

SpecOpsAlpha
SpecOpsAlpha
March 8, 2016 9:03 am

^^^ someone protests too much.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 8, 2016 9:03 am

Procrastinator.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

I particularly like his positions on healthcare, it’s what should have been done the first time and it respects the right of the people to run their own lives and make their own decisions.

Ed
Ed
March 8, 2016 9:10 am

“Fully 116 members of the GOP’s national security community, many of them veterans of Bush administrations, have signed an open letter threatening that, if Trump is nominated, they will all desert, and some will defect – to Hillary Clinton!”

That’s funny as shit. These assholes have been pretending to be part of some mythical conservative opposition to the democrats, and now they’ve panicked into making such a statement.

I wonder how many people in the GOP rank and file would be willing to answer them with :

“Well, don’t let the doorknob hit you where the Good Lord split you”.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 8, 2016 9:11 am

“Not even Jesus said he was good. I guess Donald is better than Jesus.”

Well, you’re certainly not good.

how about taking that rock out of your own eye before trying to look for a speck in others, eh?

flahs
flahs
March 8, 2016 9:19 am

“Trump calls the Iraq War many of them championed an historic blunder. Trump says that, while a supporter of Israel, he would be a “neutral” honest broker between Israel and the Palestinians in peace negotiations, as was Jimmy Carter at Camp David.

Trump says he would “get along very well” with Vladimir Putin, as Richard Nixon got along with Leonid Brezhnev and Mao Zedong.”

procrastinater ,I’ll make this real simple so even an limp dick whistler such as yourself can understand.We the People are out of options and fed up.
A great many of Trump supporters also supported Ron Paul. Where’d that get US?
Now the chance to repay the neo-con corporatist cucks who ass -reamed the Paul campaign is here and Trump is the payback.
There is no need to get on your whiny horse and ride through the comment section screeching your fuck Trump message. This darkness approaches,and Trump is no savior we all get that. You can “Fuck Trump” all you want, but it won’t save you from being ass reamed as well.
We all go down together.
Ron Paul chose to play by the rules of a game, that winners never follow.
Trump is winner and he can’t be controlled by the bi-factional ruling . This is why both commies and cucks hate him.
Ron was the spark.Trump is the fire.
If nothign else,he will burn down the GOP. And, if that’s all Trump ever accomplishes as a politician, then he’s earned every second of my support for his campaign.
The will of the people is the true power behind all politics .We fight with the weapons made available and Trump has offered himself up a the GOPs’ execution sword.

Making the backstabbing GOP pay may be the most we can expect to gain from the 2016 POTUS. election. Don’t diss the opportunity Trump offers..thats all.

Maggie
Maggie
March 8, 2016 9:20 am

Stucky, I said that he appears to not be one of them a long time ago. I have doubts about whether he is just a great showman or whether he really is the Anti-Establishment figure he is perceived to be. However, in a world where values and principles do not seem to count for anything, the enemy of my enemy…

The max fine/penalty, UM, thank you POSSCOTUS, TAX for not having health insurance has risen from $285 per year to $2085 per year since 2014. This November, my son turns 23 and we can no longer carry him on our health insurance. He graduates in December, so if he doesn’t find a job immediately, does he OWE $2085 dollars in taxes?

I know it is probably pro-rated and I’m using this as a “self-interest” bullet for my comment… if Trump does one thing – repeal the ACA – by Executive Order or Memo that Barack has made an almost daily presidential activity, then he will have corrected a great wrong to our children. ACA is nothing more than an attempt to make our healthy young people pay for the elderly liberals and the FSA health care.

Ed
Ed
March 8, 2016 9:23 am

“I wonder if the Vegas bookies are taking bets on how many heart beats he has left yet like Malley-No-Show in The Gauntlet.”

Though betting on the outcome of an election would be like betting on a WWF match, the bet you describe is one that a thinking bettor might actually lay money on.

Ed
Ed
March 8, 2016 9:31 am

“More Repug horn tooting by Pat , eh , Mr Ed?”

You can just call me Ed. I don’t stand on ceremony.

Stucky
Stucky
March 8, 2016 9:34 am

Nice post Maggie …. especially since you didn’t call me a fascist. :mrgreen:

Stucky
Stucky
March 8, 2016 9:36 am

“^^^ someone protests too much” ——- SpecOpsAlpha says:

Say something worthwhile, or just shut the fuck up. Or, is that too much too ask Army Boy?

Richo
Richo
March 8, 2016 9:43 am

I support Trump not because of anger, but because of his specific policies that would make meaningful change in three crucial areas.

One is foreign policy. He has made it clear that he would stop the warmongering regime change interventionist wars. It should be abundantly clear by now that an interventionist foreign policy makes us all less safe. Now that Rand Paul is out, Trump is the last best hope to chase the moneychangers out of the temple and stop the mad neocons from profiting from endless killing.

The second area is immigration policy, and the third is foreign trade policy.

No other candidate would give us meaningful change in all three. At best we would get change maybe in one of the three. Most of the candidates would give us business as usual. And business as usual is something we simply can not afford at this point.

FLASH
FLASH
March 8, 2016 9:57 am

@Richo …read my lips..
It’s all been promised before.Expect nothing from politicians and you’ll never be disappointed. Anger works for me.

kokoda
kokoda
March 8, 2016 10:32 am

I was going to give ‘flash’ a big compliment, but then I saw ‘flahs’ and then ‘FLASH’. The last two may not be the real ‘flash’, but I’m not sure so I put my compliment on hold.

kokoda
kokoda
March 8, 2016 10:34 am

FLASH…..one Big error with your comment: Trump is NOT a politician.

kokoda
kokoda
March 8, 2016 10:37 am

Stucky – get your head out of your butt. Yes, Trump has a slogan, just like Obama did (twice) – it worked for the dumb voters. I am sure he was advised to put forth the slogan. What is wrong with that if you want to WIN.

Gator
Gator
March 8, 2016 10:44 am

Stucky, Im 100% with you there. I have no problem with the “fuck you” voters either. Nor do I have a problem with the “I hope he destroys the GOP” voters either. Its the people who actually believe that he can/will “make america great again” thats infuriating. You people are literally falling for the EXACT SAME THING that obama used to hoodwink people 8 years ago.

I don’t think I can vote for him, because he is telling you that he is growing to drastically grow government and he is telling you that he is going to be an authoritarian, and even though voting is pointless, in my heart of hearts I can’t consciously support a man like that, since I will always know that I gave it my stamp of approval.

And HSF, thats an important point you made too. All the groups I despise hate trump with a passion. The closest I have come to saying “fuck it, Ill hold my nose and vote for trump” was listening to mittens the other day. Since I can’t realistically expect any of them to get tarred and feathered or thrown in prison for the rest of their lives, it would be nice to see their political party burn to the ground.

NickelthroweR
NickelthroweR
March 8, 2016 11:02 am

Greetings,

Regardless of what happens, this election season just has to be the most interesting one I’ve seen in my lifetime in part because it is being fought on social media.

For starters, I enjoy watching the FSA and the hipsters just lose their minds while watching Sanders marginalized and Hillary, a candidate that probably has to pay $$$ to get someone to attend a rally, steal the nomination. It forces them to stare right into the face of political corruption and political corruption doesn’t blink. Not ever. The nomination of Hillary will cost the democrats an entire generation of support. They probably wont vote Republican – they just wont vote.

Second, sometime around 1960, the puppet masters decided that television was the perfect way to brainwash the masses and 100% hijack the election process. They could decide every aspect of any election because they, the owners of the medium, had a monopoly. Fast forward 50+ years and this is not true anymore. That box is still going to decide elections but they have lost control over the box. Now they get to watch someone that is an absolute master of the box hijack the entire infrastructure (for free I might add) and tear them to pieces with their own weapons.

I do not know which one of the two I enjoy watching more.

What will come next is simple: if they can not control the outcome of an election then we will not have elections anymore.

Ed
Ed
March 8, 2016 11:07 am

“What will come next is simple: if they can not control the outcome of an election then we will not have elections anymore.”

Very astute prediction. If it doesn’t happen in ’16, it’s very likely to happen later.

Hope@ZeroKelvin
Hope@ZeroKelvin
March 8, 2016 11:23 am

The Repub and Dem power players will NEVER allow Trump to be the nominee or the president.

They will either assassinate him or crash the economy – creating a permanent “emergency” that, by golly, only the R/D elites can “manage”.

Book it.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
March 8, 2016 11:26 am

Flash says It’s all been promised before.Expect nothing from politicians and you’ll never be disappointed. Anger works for me.

Hillary Clinton doing what I want: 0%
Donald doing what he promises: I’d say 25 – 50 %

I’ll take 25% over 0% any day.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
March 8, 2016 11:43 am

Flash- If all you have left is anger then point it in the right direction, elections are a worthless exercise in futility.

Spend your days raging against the .001% and point out how they are nothing more than gangsters and pirates. Marching with the Trumpeteers is for the sheep.

Cut and paste your way into internet history.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
March 8, 2016 11:48 am

kokoda says, FLASH…….one Big error with your comment: Trump is NOT a politician.

No……..He’s an actor playing a politician. (Fixed it)

procrastinater
procrastinater
March 8, 2016 11:58 am

so TBPers are basically saying that Trump is our best chance to bring sweeping social political and economic change through chaos ?

I have enjoyed the Fourth Turning articles but it is difficult to pinpoint when a revolution will happen … I don’t see how backing a man that possesses Nazi style rhetoric helps us get better as a nation … i can see why TBPers want him elected so that we can bring about revolution, but how many people will have to die/suffer ? I have considered backing Trump because he is “different” … but why not back Cruz, a man that has shown himself to be against the establishment by pushing back against his own party ? the public perception of Cruz has labeled him as just another lying, conniving politician that is beholden to Wall Street and Washington. His actions in the Senate have said otherwise.

Anyway, thanks for responding to my comment. I thought TBPers were somehow getting dumbed down and therefore were voting for Trump.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 8, 2016 11:58 am

“Say something worthwhile, or just shut the fuck up.”

I don’t suppose you could be talked into taking your own advice?

DRUD
DRUD
March 8, 2016 11:59 am

First, I think it wise to take Carlin’s advice and affect an air of emotional detachment in all of this. Trump, Bernie, the Republican civil war…these are all mere symptoms of the shitshow known as the Fourth Turning.

In times such as these, we are but ants floating down a river…any semblance of control is more illusory than ever. Events will unfold, black swans will fly and shit will continue to flow downhill.

In this context, I would like to express a couple of thoughts. First, I agree that Trump is an all-around asshat, a megalomaniac and a dangerous man to elect to office. I also agree that he is a yuuge middle finger to the establishment in general and the Republican Party in particular–perhaps even the dagger on which it will commit suicide.

From this perspective, Trump is probably the least of the evils put before the electorate. From a larger, longer term perspective, he may very well be the worst. As has been stated plenty, there is no possibility of halting or avoiding a Fourth Turning. But the details of it is still left to be determined. The next POTUS will have a lot to do with shaping this one.

No one can predict the future, but if the past is any indicator, there will be a major, all out War within the next decade. These are the real stakes. Not how the current political parties will fare or how voters will be align a generation from now. No…there are two distinct paths: 1) WWIII or 2) Civil War 2.0. I personally don’t think there is a person alive who could become president and find a third path. I certainly hope I’m wrong.

With all this in mind, the next president is not about 4 years into the future..it is about 10 and 20, hell maybe 50 years into the future. The system MUST collapse, it WILL collapse and this will collapse will involve major, all-out warfare. The next president may be the one to drive us one way or another and may have some minor say in how and when the coming war ends. Also, whatever ideology embraced by the next POTUS will be demonized as that which led to economic collapse and war. Sure, WE all know the causes are far deeper and this Fourth Turning is 80 years in the making, but do the sheep understand such things? Nay, Nay. They will simply blame the person, the party, the ideology in power.

In this light, I think Bernie would be the best possible outcome of the Nov. election. First, he is also hated by the establishment, so his election would be a big middle finger to it. Second, while both he an Trump talk the talk about stopping the warmongering, I have a feeling that Bernie ACTUALLY despises war. Third, while it has taken decades to get into the economic mess we are in, having the final collapse occur during the regime of an avowed Socialist will cause a massive backlash against Socialism once the dust settles.

I couldn’t actually bring myself to vote for any of the candidates we have and I realize that, like my fellow ants, I have ZERO control of the course the river of history will take….but if I could choose the next POTUS it would be Bernie.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 8, 2016 12:02 pm

” …………why not back Cruz, a man that has shown himself to be against the establishment by pushing back against his own party ? ”

In rhetoric, not in actions.

He’s another establishment insider with ties to Goldman Sachs. He will do as he is told same as all the others except (maybe) Trump.

And I think Trump will stand out against them or the massive unified Republican/MSM/Democrat attack against him wouldn’t be taking place as it is.

Sometimes you can actually define who someone is by who his enemies are more than who his supporters are.

flash
flash
March 8, 2016 12:05 pm

kokoda says:I was going to give ‘flash’ a big compliment, but then I saw ‘flahs’ and then ‘FLASH’. The last two may not be the real ‘flash’, but I’m not sure so I put my compliment on hold.

It was me.Just the early morning caffeine jitters combined with poor eyesight and even worse typing skills, plus lackadaisical proof reading concern. so solly.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 8, 2016 12:05 pm

Bea,

“.. elections are a worthless exercise in futility. ”

So how do you explain the massive opposition to Trump by the entire world’s Establishment?

They usually don’t waste their time on things of no consequence, or make futile efforts to drain their resources needlessly (which is why they are the Establishment in the first place).

flash
flash
March 8, 2016 12:20 pm

BL- elections are a worthless exercise in futility.

Like I’ve said before, BL, you read but do not comprehend.
First you blather on about how Trump is “controlled opposition” then contradict yourself by blubbering about how TPTB will not allow Trump the nomination.Now you go on about me engaging in an “exercise in futility” when Trump is doing the thing I most wish him to do.Burn down the GOP.

Do you type this nonsense just to see your drivel published on the web? If all this is a waste of time , then why do you even bother? phttt..

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
March 8, 2016 12:21 pm

The Blindness It Burns……………

Super clue for Anon and any other blind as a bat Trumpeteer:

NOBODY…..Let me say it again……NOBODY, Gets time on the debate stage that is not one of theirs (Elite puppet). Nor do they get their name on the ballots.
The “fuck you vote” will amount to nothing at the end of the day. I am fucking amused that you are so gullible as to believe these daily installments of sheep spin.

A REAL outsider would not get 5 minutes attention even if he set himself on fire in front of the WH.

Stucky
Stucky
March 8, 2016 12:25 pm

“Say something worthwhile, or just shut the fuck up.” ———- me

I don’t suppose you could be talked into taking your own advice? —– Anonymous

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Nope. I am the most interesting man in the world.

Now, drink a Dos Equis and then ….

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P.S. I see that you Trump-eteer buffoons are out in full force today.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
March 8, 2016 12:26 pm

DUD joins Westie……………HAHAHAHA ! Classic.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
March 8, 2016 12:34 pm

Trump seems like a very nice fellow to me. Polite, considerate and respectful of others. He has a very good plan for a very big wall with a very beautiful door. He left his first wife, but his likely opponent bore the child of her boss at the Rose Law Firm. So nobody’s perfect. And Trump is a monk compared to Ben Franklin. If I were hiring a nanny I probably wouldn’t hire Trump. I’m not hiring a nanny.

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