All Of The Favorites To Land The Secretary Of State Job Are Neocon Warmongers

Originally Posted at Free Market Shooter

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This morning, Paddy Power shared the above tweet, encouraging people to use the bookmaker to bet on who the next Secretary of State will be.  As I have previously discussed, Paddy Power offers inferior odds to the competition, and I recommend viewing odds and/or placing wagers at Betfair’s exchange).

Though Betfair is not offering contracts on the next Secretary of State, PredictIt, a US-legal alternative, is offering contracts on the outcome.  As seen below, with a total possible value of a full dollar if you are correct, most candidates offered by Paddy Power will pay out much better on PredictIt, with the notable exceptions of Rudy Giuliani and John Bolton.

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Unfortunately, if you trust the deeper pockets of Paddy Power and the odds listed there, the favorites (Romney, Petraeus, Bolton, and Corker) are all neocon warmongers who should not be representing the United States in the role of top diplomat.  Trump was elected in part because he opposed endless wars and warmongering; why should the nation’s representative on the world stage be someone who promotes more military action?

In particular, John Bolton, who was the US Ambassador to the UN during the George W. Bush administration, is a known warmonger who supported the war in Iraq, as well as many other prior military campaigns.  Rand Paul, whose anti-war credentials are exemplary, stated the following in regards to Bolton in a recent OP-ED for Rare News:

Bolton is a longtime member of the failed Washington elite that Trump vowed to oppose, hell-bent on repeating virtually every foreign policy mistake the U.S. has made in the last 15 years — particularly those Trump promised to avoid as president.

John Bolton more often stood with Hillary Clinton and against what Donald Trump has advised.

Bolton was one of the loudest advocates of overthrowing Saddam Hussein and still stupefyingly insists it was the right call 13 years later. “I still think the decision to overthrow Saddam was correct,” Bolton said just last year.

Trump, rightly, believes that decision was a colossal mistake that destabilized the region. “Iraq used to be no terrorists,” Trump said in 2015. “(N)ow it’s the Harvard of terrorism.”

“If you look at Iraq from years ago, I’m not saying he was a nice guy, he was a horrible guy,” Trump said of Saddam Hussein, “but it was a lot better than it is right now.”

Trump has said U.S. intervention in Iraq in 2003 “helped to throw the region into chaos and gave ISIS the space it needs to grow and prosper.” In contrast, Bolton has said explicitly that he wants to repeat Iraq-style regime change in Syrian and Iran.

Trump has blamed George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton for helping to create ISIS — but should add John Bolton to that list, who essentially agreed with all three on our regime change debacles.

In 2011, Bolton bashed Obama “for his refusal to directly target Gaddafi” and declared, “there is a strategic interest in toppling Gaddafi… But Obama missed it.” In fact, Obama actually took Bolton’s advice and bombed the Libyan dictator into the next world. Secretary of State Clinton bragged, “We came, we saw, he died.”

Clearly, he is not what the voters want in our next SoS.  We must hope the odds are incorrect on him, like they were on Hillary’s odds to be our next President.

Earlier this week, I wrote about why David Petraeus should not be considered for the SoS position.  Though I focused on his leaks of classified information to his mistress and his stance on gun control, he too is a neocon warmonger.  One of my readers shared the following article, and it does a great job of demonstrating why Petraeus is indeed not the right choice:

“After America comes North America,” Petraeus said confidently in answering the question about what comes after the United States, the theme of the panel discussion. “Are we on the threshold of the North American decade, question mark? I threw that away — threw away the question mark — and boldly proclaimed the coming North American decade, says the title now.” He also boasted about how the three economies have been put “together” over the last 20 years as part of the “implementation” of the North American Free Trade Act.

He demanded “immigration reform,” for example, perhaps linked to what he termed the “unique” demographics of the three NAFTA countries. Turning to Iraq and the escalating crisis there, Petraeus also cautioned against air strikes without a more coherent strategy. “The United States cannot be the air force for the Shia militias,” he said. Separately, he claimed that Washington, D.C., politics was the biggest threat to U.S. national security.

Again, he is not what the voters want in our next SoS.  And again, we must hope the odds are incorrect on his chances of getting the job.

Finally, Mitt Romney has been in opposition to Trump since he began his campaign.  Importantly, when he was running for President in 2012, he also had a consortium of neocons around him, and ran on a platform of endless wars and warmongering, which the National Interest detailed at the time:

Romney’s comments were themselves in response to President Obama’s mic gaffe in Seoul when he indicated to Dmitri Medvedev that he needed a breathing spell on the issue of missile defense in Europe, one that should last until after the conclusion of the American election.

Romney, by contrast, appears to be intent on depicting Obama as a wimp and seeking out a “No. 1” foe, which can evidently be Iran or China or Russia, depending on Romney’s mood that week. But it won’t work. If he clings to neoconservatism, Romney won’t doom America’s adversaries but his own campaign.

Romney ran on a pro-war platform in 2012, and campaigned extensively against Trump this past election; how can Trump trust him to make the right decisions on his behalf as Secretary of State?  We must really hope the odds are incorrect on him, because he is currently the favorite to be the next SoS, and does not belong in a Trump administration at all.

So, who do I think are better choices?  Dana Rohrabacher is perhaps my personal favorite, and Tulsi Gabbard is another good choice.  I’m not the biggest fan of Giuliani as SoS, but he is still a much better option than the warmongers listed above.

Finally, there is something else in play to consider.  Perhaps Trump is going to give Romney a role in his administration for the purpose of marginalizing his political influence.  Trump is a sharp guy, and knows how best to position his enemies so that they cannot get the best of him.

Still, given the importance of the position of Secretary of State, arguably the most important position in any President’s cabinet, this role must not go to Romney. As Trump demonstrated at his recent dinner discussion with Romney, he is holding all the cards here. He must be careful not to give some of his aces to Romney, and if he is going to nominate him for a cabinet position, he must choose one which marginalizes his influence as much as possible. 

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Ticky Toc
Ticky Toc
December 2, 2016 1:44 pm

Ya’ll thought things would be better and different. Think again… Drain the swamp my ass.

“Shortly after Donald Trump picked former Goldman partner Steven Mnuchin as Treasury Secretary, he was rumored to be considering another Goldmanite, current President and COO Gary Cohn – who as reported earlier this week is already contemplating “life after Goldman” – for energy secretary.

he has created an economic panel chaired by Blackstone’s Stephen Schwarzmann, whose members will also include such illustrious “non-swampies” as Jamie Dimon and Larry Fink, as well as various other “prominent U.S. business leaders” to get Wall Street’s advice on such matters as … job creation”.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
December 2, 2016 1:55 pm

Refresh my memory, but is this the same paddy power who had Clinton up by 30 until 9:30 on election night?

javelin
javelin
  hardscrabble farmer
December 2, 2016 5:01 pm

Exactly, even pre-paid everyone who bet on HRC.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
December 2, 2016 2:02 pm

If you are going to sell the shit government sells, you are going to need a good salesman. Trump sold the country on more change we can believe in. He is just as hog-tied as the Fed which is damned if they raise rates and damned if they don’t.

The answer is the same one Ripley came up with, destroy the ship and get the fuck out of Dodge in the pod. Unfortunately for the 99% – they might not make the cut.

catfish
catfish
December 2, 2016 2:03 pm

When I put my comments here on the same day Trump was elected, calling Trump two-faced after he was praising the ol’ hag Clinton, I got a load of stick from stupido BP readers. Yeah and my comments were deleted. They were all in denial, including fucking BP censors. Nothing changes. Fuck ya’ll. I hope Trump’s alligators fucking devour you all.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  catfish
December 2, 2016 2:45 pm

mudcat, Nobody censors shit here. Admin is too busy and he hasn’t had time to hire one. LLPOH said an ass is too good an opportunity to pass by.

You chose to piss on the parade. You could have waited but nooooo, you had to get your digs in before the rush. Look, we are all adults, we knew America was marrying a whoor. That is no reason to start grabbing the bride’s ass right after the ceremony. Have some decency.

Now, quit sniveling and let’s have some good commentary. Ass kickers are standing by.

catfish
catfish
  EL Coyote
December 3, 2016 1:46 am

El Coyote you are a fucking liar. My stuff was deleted, and before, even BP readers warned me. Not on this thread but another – so engage what you have left of a brain before opening your frigging ugly cakehole.

Cricket
Cricket
December 2, 2016 2:04 pm

I’m still chuckling about a caller’s suggestion on the Rush Limbaugh program a few weeks ago…he said Trump should make Hillary Clinton Secretary of State again, under America’s new ‘You broke it. You fix it policy.’ 🙂

For maximum troll, Trump could throw in all-she-can-eat Tombstone frozen cheese pizzas. 🙂

Administrator
Administrator
Admin
December 2, 2016 2:21 pm

Also cleaning up Wall Street by having Wall Street cocksuckers advising him:

Schwarzman, Dimon, Fink Will Advise Trump How To Create Jobs

by Tyler Durden
Dec 2, 2016 1:10 PM

Shortly after Donald Trump picked former Goldman partner Steven Mnuchin as Treasury Secretary, he was rumored to be considering another Goldmanite, current President and COO Gary Cohn – who as reported earlier this week is already contemplating “life after Goldman” – for energy secretary. The follows a previous report that Trump may appoint Cohn as head of the Office of Management and Budget. So, as Trump wonders which other Goldman banker to poach to fully outsource financial management of the US directly to Goldman, a taxpayer-backed hedge fund which has already taken over the world’s central banks, he decided to spread the Wall Street love and earlier today announced that he has created an economic panel chaired by Blackstone’s Stephen Schwarzmann, whose members will also include such illustrious “non-swampies” as Jamie Dimon and Larry Fink, as well as various other “prominent U.S. business leaders” to get Wall Street’s advice on such matters as … job creation.

The President’s Strategic and Policy Forum will begin meeting with Trump in February after his inauguration. From the announcement:

President-elect Donald J. Trump today announced that he is establishing the President’s Strategic and Policy Forum. The Forum, which is composed of some of America’s most highly respected and successful business leaders, will be called upon to meet with the President frequently to share their specific experience and knowledge as the President implements his plan to bring back jobs and Make America Great Again. The Forum will be chaired by Stephen A. Schwarzman, Chairman, CEO, and Co-Founder of Blackstone.

Members of the Forum will be charged with providing their individual views to the President – informed by their unique vantage points in the private sector – on how government policy impacts economic growth, job creation, and productivity. The Forum is designed to provide direct input to the President from many of the best and brightest in the business world in a frank, non-bureaucratic, and non-partisan manner.

This is the same Schwarzman who during the Republican primaries in October 2015, characterized Trump as “the P.T. Barnum of America.”

Other members include General Motors Co. chairman and CEO Mary Barra, Cleveland Clinic CEO Toby Cosgrove, Bob Iger of the Walt Disney, Wal-Mart Stores Inc. president and CEO Doug McMillon, and former Boeing Co. chairman James McNerney, as well as the above named Jamie Dimon of JPMorgan Chase and BlackRock Inc.’s Larry Fink,

“This forum brings together CEOs and business leaders who know what it takes to create jobs and drive economic growth,” Trump said in a statement issued by Blackstone. “My administration is committed to drawing on private sector expertise and cutting the government red tape that is holding back our businesses from hiring, innovating, and expanding right here in America.”

Sadly, it was the private sector’s policies, expertise and “advice” to the Obama administration, that led to this particular outcome:

It also led to record stock buybacks and all time high stock prices, not to mention record CEO compensation, but surely Trump will see right any such attempts to pass “advice” meant to help the people whose only intention is to make a handful of Wall Street oligarchs even richer… right.

Schwarzman, the 69-year-old private equity executive who will chair the forum, said at the Wall Street Journal CEO Council after the election that he is “excited” about the prospects for economic growth in America and expects the business horizon to look “infinitely better” in the next few years.

“Things are going to change, and I think things are going to change a lot,” he said. He did not refer to Trump by name.

In an interview with Bloomberg before the election, Schwarzman said he was undecided between Trump and Clinton. He said the GOP nominee’s plans for economic growth sound “wonderful if you could do that,” but also expressed concerns about his immigration plans.

“If you were really removing a large number of people, that’s got to adversely affect the economy,” he said.

Other panel members are also prominent Clinton fans: Disney’s Iger, 65, supported Hillary Clinton during the campaign and co-hosted a fundraiser for her over the summer. However, he too quickly changed his tune in the days following Trump’s election, when he said he was “hopeful” about what’s to come in an interview with CNBC.

“There is going to be far more energy around attacking the tax code, changing the tax code, closing loopholes on corporate taxes and lowering the base,” he said. “We’re not as competitive as we need to be as a country. I think that is going to be addressed on a timely, meaning a fast basis. That’s certainly good.”

Jim McNerney, former chairman and CEO of Boeing, who is also on the committee, once referred to Trump’s rhetoric on trade as “dangerous.”

The full list of panel members include the following:

Stephen A. Schwarzman, Chairman, CEO, and Co-Founder of Blackstone
Paul Atkins, CEO, Patomak Global Partners, LLC, Former Commissioner of the Securities and Exchange Commission
Mary Barra, Chairman and CEO, General Motors
Toby Cosgrove, CEO, Cleveland Clinic
Jamie Dimon, Chairman and CEO, JPMorgan Chase & Co
Larry Fink, Chairman and CEO, BlackRock
Bob Iger, Chairman and CEO, The Walt Disney Company
Rich Lesser, President and CEO, Boston Consulting Group
Doug McMillon, President and CEO, Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
Jim McNerney, Former Chairman, President, and CEO, Boeing
Adebayo “Bayo” Ogunlesi, Chairman and Managing Partner, Global Infrastructure Partners
Ginni Rometty, Chairman, President, and CEO, IBM
Kevin Warsh, Shepard Family Distinguished Visiting Fellow in Economics, Hoover Institute, Former Member of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
Mark Weinberger, Global Chairman and CEO, EY
Jack Welch, Former Chairman and CEO, General Electric
Daniel Yergin, Pulitzer Prize-winner, Vice Chairman of IHS Markit

For some inexplicable reason, Warren Buffett failed to make the list, if only for the time being.

Crat
Crat
  Administrator
December 2, 2016 3:12 pm

After reading that article, Mussolini comes to mind. Holy s**t! I do believe we are screwed.

Roy
Roy
  Administrator
December 2, 2016 5:26 pm

“The full list of panel members include the following:” The list is 16 members and as I read it there are more members. Several sources I have read all claim order breaks down at 21 members, the most notable being C Northcote Parkinson.

By putting all these Hillary supporters into a committee designed to fail will show Trump was right and the establishment was wrong. Of course what Trump proposes is impossible but by discrediting the establishment he will be able to launch “whatever” without opposition.

The original Committee (Cabinet) of the Executive Branch had five members, Attorney General, War, Treasure, Secretary of State and Chairman (President) who had little knowledge of the other areas, a tradition that has been maintained. All Cabinet members added since are unnecessary for Governance but necessary for control.

Some Presidents used a small group to make decisions and then passed them on to be implemented.

Dutchman
Dutchman
December 2, 2016 2:28 pm

Anyone is better the some cunt. Christ all mighty, I make more than the Sec of State. Who wants that job? Check out the Amazon, knee pad advert.

OTOH, I’d sorta like to shake hands with, for instance, with the Pres of Mexico, and then say (while smiling) OK cocksucker – this is how it’s going to be from now on.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Dutchman
December 2, 2016 2:54 pm

Dutch, I’m not up on Mexican politics but Cardenas was perhaps the last Mexican president with balls. If the current president is hated today, it is because he is seen as Washingon’s lackey. Colosio tried the populist approach but promising the poor relief from their yoke ended with a bullet to the head of the shoo-in candidate.

Dutchman
Dutchman
  EL Coyote
December 2, 2016 3:00 pm

Mexico = cesspool.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Dutchman
December 2, 2016 3:19 pm

Some places there are better than Appalachia. The current situation is that it serves as a giant manufacturing plant with no environmental restrictions, no labor laws and no mandated healthcare. It is a capitalist dream come true.

The USA in turn has become so business unfriendly that nobody works there anymore. It’s just one big McMansionland; Disneyland on steroids. You have San Francisco as Tomorrowland, Michigan is Autopia, Washington is the Haunted Mansion with its crazy graveyard.

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
December 2, 2016 3:01 pm

The similarities from 8 years ago are stunning. A campaigning Obama said he would bring everyone together when elected. He talked of how he would pull us out of Iraq, make government more open and protect whistleblowers, and work productively with Republicans to get things done. And most of the country believed his bullshit because they desperately wanted someone to do those things.

Well it looks like Trump is playing the same game. He said all the right things during the campaign, but his cabinet appointments are pretty dismal. So we were fooled again. We are worse off then Charlie Brown at the start of football season.

With that being said, as long as Trump doesn’t start a war with Russia, we are better off with him then Hillary. Just don’t expect any swamp reclamation projects.

james the deplorable wanderer
james the deplorable wanderer
December 2, 2016 4:08 pm

I find it interesting that PaddyLand puts Ivanka at the same level as Dr. Ben Carson, who has already taken DH&HS [I think? DHS? something like that] and since you can’t really be Cabinet Secretary of more than one thing at a time, that make his chances zero? And won’t Ivanka be running the shops while Donald’s busy running the country?
Not sure PaddyLand understands how USGovt works, or perhaps 40 / 1 is a no-bet somehow. Although I am encouraged to see Hillary at 150 / 1!

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 2, 2016 6:48 pm

Paddy power and betfair are the one company,if you don’t like the odds at one bet with the other,but all the profits go back to the same people.Just like like democrats and republicans no difference.

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
December 2, 2016 6:53 pm

Trump may be more shrewd than we can imagine. While the choice of Munchkin as Sec Treas pissed me off because he was part of the foreclosure crisis, once foreclosing on a 90 yr old Floridian Woman who owed less than $1, as one of you guys pointed out, he might be playing bait & switch.
He isn’t even in office yet; let’s give him enough rope to either hang himself or string up the alligators in the swamp.

TJF
TJF
  Westcoaster
December 3, 2016 11:53 am

I said in a previous thread soon after the election that I was willing to wait and see how the first 100 days goes after he takes over, but it is getting harder and harder to have any optimism in how things will go for the next 4 years.