A BIASED 2017 FORECAST (PART TWO)

In Part One of this article I discussed the failure of our brains to think rationally due to our biases and the relentless propaganda flogged by our Deep State ruling class. Viewing the future through the looking glass of the Fourth Turning keeps you focused on the three catalysts which will drive all events in 2017 and beyond. I’ve addressed my 2017 Debt forecast in Part One. Now I will make some guesses about what might happen in 2017 related to Civic Decay and Global Disorder.

Civic Decay Forecast

“Our comforting conviction that the world makes sense rests on a secure foundation: our almost unlimited ability to ignore our ignorance.” Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow

The presidential election and its aftermath tell you everything you need to know about the level of civic decay overtaking this country. The country is as divided as it was after the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1860. There is virtually no common ground between liberals and conservatives. The pure hatred and contempt between the winners and losers in the recent election does not bode well for the country over the next four to eight years.

The social fabric of the country has been torn asunder. The Clinton supporters believe anyone not on their side is deplorable, racist, misogynist, and fans of Hitler. Trump supporters believe anyone not on their side is low IQ, Muslim loving, deceitful, math challenged, and fans of a criminal. The gulf between the two sides is unbridgeable.

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Barack Obama, the well-dressed, polished, articulate, empty suit, who has occupied the White House for the last eight years serving as the front man for the Deep State, has done more to destroy race relations and sense of community than any president in history. His divisive rhetoric and actions over the last eight years created the atmosphere for the acrimonious election and the violent protests that followed.

His failure to quell the Soros funded Black Lives Matter terrorist organization has resulted in the slaughter of police across the country. Meanwhile, his hometown of Chicago has seen 800 homicides and over 4,400 shootings in 2016 – with over 90% blacks killing blacks. His legacy is one of complete and utter failure, but his hubris knows no bounds, and he actually believes his eight year reign of error was a resounding success. Facts be damned.

“A person who has not made peace with his losses is likely to accept gambles that would be unacceptable to him otherwise.”Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow

Obama fears his legacy will go up in flames. When you govern through executive orders, bypassing Congress, and flaunting the Constitution, your actions can be overturned with the stroke of a pen. When your crowning achievement – Obamacare – is derided by virtually everyone in the country as an epic failure and will be repealed and replaced in short order, you realize your entire presidency was a sham and a national disgrace.

Obama is flailing about in his final weeks desperately trying to keep the attention focused upon him. He is gambling with the lives of his countrymen by doing everything in his power to provoke World War III with Russia and to inflame the Middle East with his UN engineered snub of Israel. Obama doesn’t like to lose and he is acting like a churlish spoiled brat as his time runs out. He has become a laughingstock around the world. He will fan the flames of discontent in this country until he is ushered out of the White House.

Here are a few suppositions about what will happen next:

  • Obama trying to sow discord between the U.S. and Russia will fail, as Trump and Putin will meet and find common ground in the Middle East, the Ukraine, and Turkey. Republican neo-cons like McCain and Graham will be outraged. Liberal warmongers who once protested Bush’s wars will also be outraged. The mainstream media will continue to try and fan the flames of war.
  • Before leaving office Obama will poke a final stick in the eye of Trump and his supporters by pardoning Hillary Clinton for all possible wrongdoing. This will infuriate the right. Trump will do everything in his power to investigate the Clinton foundation and any issues which could incriminate Bill, Holder, Lynch or Obama. The peaceful transition of power has not been observed by the left, so all bets are off once Trump takes office.
  • Well-funded (by Soros) domestic agitators, including BLM and various femi-nazi groups, will attempt to disrupt the inauguration ceremonies. There will be violence, conflicts with Trump supporters, and police confrontations. This will further widen the divide in this country. The left have proven to be those who promote violence and will continue to do so. If they venture outside of their urban safe zones, they will be met with a white heavily armed populace.
  • The left wing mainstream media will not be deterred in their efforts to bring down the Trump presidency. They will fire away on a daily basis as their ratings drop lower and lower. Their railing against “fake news” has backfired, driving more people to alternative media sites where they will not be inundated with Deep State approved propaganda. The press will do their utmost to agitate the masses, creating and promoting conflict. Trump will continue to bypass and scorn the media outlets by taking his message directly to the people.
  • Building the wall, shutting off the immigration pipeline of Muslim refugees, defunding sanctuary cities, and fully supporting local police across the country will trigger snowflakes, BLM terrorists, illegal immigrants, and various Soros funded radical groups to stage violent protests in the liberal urban enclaves. They are waiting for their next high profile police shooting to pounce. The civil chaos and violent protests will increase as the year progresses.
  • Whoever Trump nominates as his Supreme Court justice will face enormous scrutiny. The left wing media will stop at nothing to destroy the nominee. The hearings in Congress will be nasty, rude, and vitriolic. The animosity between the opposing sides will reach epic proportions. Both sides know the Supreme Court is of vital importance to the future course of the country.
  • With Obama failing to fade into the sunset and his enormous ego and arrogance spurring him to agitate the left wingers, there will be no de-intensifying of the rhetoric between the right and the left. As we’ve seen, the left are the proponents of violence as their chief weapon. An attempt on the life of Trump is a distinct possibility in his first year in office. A successful or unsuccessful attempt would have far reaching consequences that could lead to civil chaos.

Global Disorder Forecast

“We focus on our goal, anchor on our plan, and neglect relevant base rates, exposing ourselves to the planning fallacy. We focus on what we want to do and can do, neglecting the plans and skills of others. Both in explaining the past and in predicting the future, we focus on the causal role of skill and neglect the role of luck. We are therefore prone to an illusion of control. We focus on what we know and neglect what we do not know, which makes us overly confident in our beliefs.”Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow

The level of global disorder hasn’t been this high since the 1930s. There are dozens of potential flash points capable of producing a cascading crisis which could blow up the world. The highly touted establishment mantra of globalization has produced an interconnected web of trillions in global debt, with one quadrillion dollars of indecipherable derivatives layered on top, all dependent upon the sustenance of insolvent mega-banks and bankrupt nation states. The only thing keeping this global Ponzi scheme alive is the unfounded belief in the brilliance of central bankers and corrupt politicians.

The detonator for these interwoven financial weapons of mass destruction is rising global interest rates. The global financial system will be blown sky high by a sustained high volume sovereign bond selloff. The bond market is always the canary in the coal mine. Bonds will sell-off before stocks and real estate. Bond markets have begun to sell-off in a relatively orderly manner over the last three months, with long term Treasuries falling 13%. Bill Gross recently described the growing risk:

“Global yields lowest in 500 years of recorded history. $10 trillion of neg. rate bonds. This is a supernova that will explode one day.”

Will that day happen in 2017? No one knows for sure, but the probability is much higher than biased “experts” believe. The substantial concentration of cognitive biases clouding the judgement of the supposed wise men ruling the world has blinded them to the tragic consequences of what happens when the mother of all bubbles explodes like a supernova.

The complacency of those in charge and the trusting masses will eventually be dealt a death blow when the high frequency trading computers run amuck and wipe out trillions of faux paper wealth in a matter of minutes. The powers that be will declare no one could have seen it coming, when in actuality anyone with a basic understanding of math could have seen it coming from a mile away. Most have chosen to remain blind to reality, because dealing with it is too painful to consider.

“We can be blind to the obvious, and we are also blind to our blindness.”Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow

Let’s get to a few prognostications regarding global events in 2017:

  • Obama, in a despicable act of trying to fence Trump in, has introduced further sanctions against Russia and Putin based upon no solid evidence other than the opinions of the same people who were sure there were WMD in Iraq. The MSM and the neo-con faction of his party are all on Obama’s side. I expect Trump to override Obama’s childish display of antagonism, while showing the neo-cons there is a new sheriff in town, by developing a working relationship with Putin and lowering the tensions between the two countries.
  • Trump and Putin will come to an agreement regarding keeping Assad in power in Syria while turning both nations’ attention to obliterating ISIS and the so called “moderate” Al Qaeda terrorists in the Middle East. General Mattis and Trump’s team of rational thinkers will develop a feasible plan to destroy ISIS once and for all. Safe zones will jointly be created in Syria and Iraq by the U.S. and Russia to stem the tide of refugees pouring into the EU and U.S.
  • The U.S. dependency on Saudi oil will continue to decrease, further reducing their influence on U.S. policy in the Middle East. Saudi failure in Syria, Yemen and keeping Iran contained will lead to further discontent in the kingdom. Financial woes, declining oil output and religious tensions will fray the fabric of their insular society and lead to a religious uprising and civil war.
  • Turkey has been pushed into the Russian sphere of influence by U.S. meddling. The country is falling apart. A civil war on par with the Syrian conflict is likely to breakout. Russia would likely support the dictator Erdogan against rebel forces supported by NATO. Religious and sectarian violence will tear the country apart and create further tensions between Russia and the U.S.
  • Israel will pre-emptively take action either covertly or overtly to damage the Iranian nuclear program without informing the U.S. of its actions in advance. This will be supported by the neo-con factions in the U.S. government, but will strain relations between Netanyahu and Trump.
  • The crackpot efforts at demonetization by Modi in India will destroy the Indian economy and cause societal upheaval among his 1.25 billion mostly poor citizens. With the eighth largest economy on the planet imploding, the economic reverberations across Southeast Asia will be enormous, possibly being the trigger for the next step down in this ongoing global recession. India’s weakness could spur their enemy Pakistan to take aggressive border actions which could lead to military conflict.
  • With the fourth largest economy in the world in near permanent recession for the last twenty years, Japan’s debt to GDP ratio of 230% portends financial collapse. In the midst of a demographic implosion, with negative interest rates, and a central bank buying all the newly issued debt and billions in stocks, Japan is a bug seeking a windshield. When this Ponzi economy crashes, the worldwide impact will be significant. If Japan doesn’t trigger the global eruption, it will be a major contributor as the detonation spreads around the world.
  • China continues to steadily devalue the yuan against the USD and has eliminated all the gains since 2010. At the same time they have reduced their foreign reserves by over 20% since mid-2014. China’s third largest economy in the world is slowing rapidly as more bad debt builds up in their system. They have a real estate bubble that makes the U.S. bubble seem like a pimple on the ass of a fly. A trade war initiated by Donald Trump would be the pin bursting the Chinese debt bubble. The situation could intensify into a bond selloff and panic. If derivative positions of over-leveraged or poorly-hedged globally systemic banks begin to unravel, cascading losses could lead to a vicious cycle and a tragic outcome.
  • Potential military conflict between China and Japan/U.S. over the islands in the South China Sea ramps up by the day. No one wants a war, but all it would take is a careless stupid act by a low level military officer to create a crisis. China is already bent out of shape by Trump acknowledging the existence of Taiwan. China is still essentially a dictatorship. The country is racked by corruption. An economic collapse could be met with distracting the public through a military adventure against Taiwan. These scenarios are unlikely in 2017, but not out of the question.
  • The most likely and potentially most dire event which could affect the world in 2017 is the disintegration of the EU. Greece is still a basket case. Italy is on the brink. The EU area economy barely registers positive after years of negative interest rates and debt issuance. Unemployment rates, excluding Germany, range between 10% and 25%. Brexit and Trump’s victory portend a further shift to the right in the EU. The right wing party will win the French presidency. Merkel will be defeated in the upcoming elections. France and Italy are likely to have a referendum on leaving the EU. The departure of either will end the failed experiment. The insolvent Italian, French and German banks, specifically Deutsche Bank, will collapse in an EU disintegration scenario.
  • The influx of Muslims into Europe is destroying their culture and leading to violence, terrorism, bloodshed, and now retribution. The left wingers have made a dreadful mistake in allowing hordes of Muslims to invade their countries. Their already fraying social welfare states are now completely bankrupt and citizens are afraid to go into the streets for fear of being attacked by members of the religion of peace. With the right gaining power in France, Germany and Italy, the blowback against Muslims will be violent and bloody. European cities will be rocked with violence throughout 2017.

“Confidence is a feeling, which reflects the coherence of the information and the cognitive ease of processing it. It is wise to take admissions of uncertainty seriously, but declarations of high confidence mainly tell you that an individual has constructed a coherent story in his mind, not necessarily that the story is true.”  – Daniel Kahneman, Thinking, Fast and Slow

I think it is pretty obvious my pessimism bias may have skewed my predictions for 2017. I’ve been pessimistic for the last eight years and the stock market is up 200%. I try to assess the world from a logical fact based frame of mind, but for the last eight years the world has been kept afloat by a combination of debt, delusions and denial.

The Deep State propaganda machine has convinced the masses we are living in normal times, despite the fact the Fed printed $3.5 trillion out of thin air and handed it to the criminal Wall Street banks, interest rates have been kept at or near zero for eight years, revelations from Snowden that we truly live in a surveillance state far exceeding Orwell’s dystopian vision, the national debt doubling to $20 trillion, proof that all financial markets are rigged, undeclared wars being waged across the globe, and a reality TV star defeating a criminal to be president of the United States. Sounds pretty normal to me.

My confidence level in my predictions is quite low. But, if one or two of the low probability events comes to fruition, the financial and/or human devastation will make 2008 look like a walk in the park. I don’t have an agenda in putting forth these predictions. I’m not selling anything or hawking stocks, bonds, or gold. I don’t tout myself as an expert like the over-confident, arrogant pricks on CNBC, CNN, MSNBC, or FOX. I’m just trying to understand what is happening in this crazy universe. We live in an uncertain world. I believe an unbiased appreciation of uncertainty is the cornerstone of rationality and reason. Not acknowledging the role of luck or chance in the course of human events is setting you up for a fall.

Our countries, central banks, financial complex, military industrial complex, sick care complex, global mega-corporations, and government bureaucracies are ruled by men whose hubris, arrogance, greed and hunger for power has warped our world, producing unfathomable ill-gotten profits for the financial class who can abuse justice with impunity while the average man is bullied, pillaged and abused with disregard.

These well dressed, highly educated, sophisticated, soulless barbarians hide their evil deeds behind the trappings of culture, but they are revealed by their grotesque schemes, murderous policies, and war profits soaked in blood. When they lose control of this global Ponzi scheme, I hope they pay the ultimate price for their traitorous deeds. Will it happen in 2017? I don’t know. But it will happen before this Fourth Turning climaxes.

“The risk of catastrophe will be very high. The nation could erupt into insurrection or civil violence, crack up geographically, or succumb to authoritarian rule. If there is a war, it is likely to be one of maximum risk and effort – in other words, a total war. Every Fourth Turning has registered an upward ratchet in the technology of destruction, and in mankind’s willingness to use it.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning

 

 

 

 

 

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slobotnavich
slobotnavich
January 3, 2017 8:11 pm

Actually, this was forecast with almost eerie precision in the novel Camp of the Saints, by French author Jean Raspail, which predicted an outright invasion of the First World by hordes of impoverished Third Worlders. When I read it about forty years ago I thought it interesting and well-presented sociological science fiction but very little else. And now old Jean’s tale is coming true in frightening spades. Stock up on guns, ammunition, canned goods, and MRE’s and be ready to repel all boarders.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  slobotnavich
January 4, 2017 12:19 am

Yup, that novel is prophetic. I loved the ending, well kinda. I still can’t believe he wrote that in the 70’s.

SSS
SSS
January 4, 2017 12:22 am

•Trump and Putin will come to an agreement regarding keeping Assad in power in Syria while turning both nations’ attention to obliterating ISIS and the so called “moderate” Al Qaeda terrorists in the Middle East. General Mattis and Trump’s team of rational thinkers will develop a feasible plan to destroy ISIS once and for all. Safe zones will jointly be created in Syria and Iraq by the U.S. and Russia to stem the tide of refugees pouring into the EU and U.S.
—-from Admin’s article

Correct. Trump will ask “Mad Dog” Mattis to make that happen. Russia will be a partner. And it will happen. Reset button pushed.

James
James
January 4, 2017 6:13 am

I have observed the left, there has never been anything liberal about them, since I was a child. If they cannot win a fair contest they cheat. If they cannot win by cheating they become violent.

ambrose bierce
ambrose bierce
January 4, 2017 10:46 am

this is opinionated assumptions masquerading as pseudoscience. every assumption could be spun to its opposite with very little effort. and a course a great deal of it comes from Russian cyber hackers, who want to sow discord in America, in order to get the monkey off their back. in a period of rapid change old institutions no longer serve their purpose. America’s leaders need to meet these challenges, first you need to see the problem (structural changes to employment for instance) and then craft working solutions. (guaranteed living wage), then cut out the white noise, (internet bloggers who are all smoke and no fire) and solve the problem at the institutional level in a method consistent with constitutional values.

ambrose bierce
ambrose bierce
  Administrator
January 4, 2017 12:53 pm

my coherent statement versus your hs one liner. who do you think youre fooling? comrade

ambrose bierce
ambrose bierce
  ambrose bierce
January 4, 2017 1:47 pm

those computer troll answers are getting better

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  ambrose bierce
January 4, 2017 11:16 pm

Nobody ever knew what happened to Ambrose Bierce. He is said to have disappeared in Mexico. Perhaps he assumed a new identity in B Traven. Maybe he later assumed the identity of Amado Muro.
Today he graces TBP with his writing. Since Ambrose Bierce was known for his cynicism, I cannot say for certain that this new poster is not the elusive Bierce.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/books/review/ambrose-bierce-the-man-and-his-demons.html

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/06/25/books/his-widow-reveals-much-of-who-b-traven-really-was.html?pagewanted=all

http://www.nytimes.com/1982/05/30/books/the-pale-chicano.html

Agnes
Agnes
  Administrator
September 13, 2018 11:30 am

still

Bob Bennet
Bob Bennet
January 4, 2017 11:18 am

Perhaps you folks that get such a hard on over the Libertarian agenda should understand their position.. People such as lyin Paul Ryan, et al…
Here are just a few excerpts of the Libertarian Party platform that David Koch ran on in 1980:

“We urge the repeal of federal campaign finance laws, and the immediate abolition of the despotic Federal Election Commission.”
“We favor the abolition of Medicare and Medicaid programs.”
“We oppose any compulsory insurance or tax-supported plan to provide health services, including those which finance abortion services.”
“We also favor the deregulation of the medical insurance industry.”
“We favor the repeal of the fraudulent, virtually bankrupt, and increasingly oppressive Social Security system. Pending that repeal, participation in Social Security should be made voluntary.”
“We propose the abolition of the governmental Postal Service. The present system, in addition to being inefficient, encourages governmental surveillance of private correspondence. Pending abolition, we call for an end to the monopoly system and for allowing free competition in all aspects of postal service.”
“We oppose all personal and corporate income taxation, including capital gains taxes.”
“We support the eventual repeal of all taxation.”
“As an interim measure, all criminal and civil sanctions against tax evasion should be terminated immediately.”
“We support repeal of all law which impede the ability of any person to find employment, such as minimum wage laws.”
“We advocate the complete separation of education and State. Government schools lead to the indoctrination of children and interfere with the free choice of individuals. Government ownership, operation, regulation, and subsidy of schools and colleges should be ended.”
“We condemn compulsory education laws … and we call for the immediate repeal of such laws.”
“We support the repeal of all taxes on the income or property of private schools, whether profit or non-profit.”
“We support the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency.”
“We support abolition of the Department of Energy.”
“We call for the dissolution of all government agencies concerned with transportation, including the Department of Transportation.”
“We demand the return of America’s railroad system to private ownership. We call for the privatization of the public roads and national highway system.”
“We specifically oppose laws requiring an individual to buy or use so-called “self-protection” equipment such as safety belts, air bags, or crash helmets.”
“We advocate the abolition of the Federal Aviation Administration.”
“We advocate the abolition of the Food and Drug Administration.”
“We support an end to all subsidies for child-bearing built into our present laws, including all welfare plans and the provision of tax-supported services for children.”
“We oppose all government welfare, relief projects, and ‘aid to the poor’ programs. All these government programs are privacy-invading, paternalistic, demeaning, and inefficient. The proper source of help for such persons is the voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals.”
“We call for the privatization of the inland waterways, and of the distribution system that brings water to industry, agriculture and households.”
“We call for the repeal of the Occupational Safety and Health Act.”
“We call for the abolition of the Consumer Product Safety Commission.”
“We support the repeal of all state usury laws.”

Why of all things, no usury laws and no taxes? It’s pretty much fu I got mine.. Who pays for the public goods, like roads? Oh yea.. get used to toll roads, everywhere. Walker wants his interstate system to be all toll because he starved it of ~900 million so far. That’s the plan, give tax breaks to the “makers” and starve the system until it falls of it’s own weight, then privatize everything. You won’t be the owner of ANYTHING if they have their way.

Good luck with your lives. I hope all of you koch suckers live long lives, long enough to understand that you were useful idiots helping to screw yourselves over… ENJOY!

Republicans used to have moral values, the republicans that I supported anyway.. not so much anymore. Take a look in the mirror or just read above.. Moral values… right!

Quick question to the haters of “liberals” and liberal ideas… How do you react when it is your own child that is espousing liberal ideas? Kill them as you threaten to do those you don’t know? Show them the business end of your bought and paid for penis extension (gun)? How do you deal with the cognitive dissonance? Mental gymnastics anyone?

LOL!

Huck Finn
Huck Finn
  Bob Bennet
January 4, 2017 5:23 pm

So who were those republicans you supported Bob? John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell? Sure as hell couldn’t have been Barry Goldwater who was more libertarian than any republican since the 60s. You sound more like a Polosi, Boxer, Feinstein, Barney Frank, Al Franken supporter. Everything you write here is hardcore collectivism.

Bob Bennet
Bob Bennet
  Huck Finn
January 5, 2017 9:17 am

Huck.. you act like you are either very young or believe that politics started at the beginning of this century.. I voted for Reagan, he wouldn’t have a chance in the republican today. I voted for his successor even though I now despise the whole Bush family. I voted for Ford over Carter, again Ford wouldn’t find a chair in the republican party of today. Back then these kock suckers were considered radical, not today. I voted for Dole and lastly I voted for W in 2000 but not in 2004. I have since awoken to the idea that the republican party as it stands today would prefer my vote but doesn’t in any way want to help me. They want, like you, to coddle the wealthy. Why? Because they have the money. Is that why you want to help with giving the wealthy hand jobs and reach arounds?

Is it that you want to be rich but just haven’t made it quite yet?

“John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell? Sure as hell couldn’t have been Barry Goldwater who was more libertarian than any republican since the 60s.” Couldn’t for the whole group since I don’t live in any of those states and couldn’t vote for Goldwater because I wasn’t old enough. Some simple though on your part could have helped you avoid typing such a thoughtless statement. Perhaps you voted for Sarah Palin?

But then let me help you. McCain is probably the least offensive in the group, followed by Graham, McConnel and Ryan are liars in the extreme and pretty much hate you and your future social security / medicare. Good luck with old age you will need the luck because the money won’t be flowing your way if they have their way. You can’t eat Libertarianism! And it won’t pay your bills when you can’t spell your name or dress yourself but then you are special and won’t get old.. Good luck!

Bob Bennet
Bob Bennet
  Bob Bennet
January 5, 2017 11:37 am

“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered…. I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies…. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”

-Thomas Jefferson

I believe that we are almost there and you Libertarians support it all the way to the bank without so much as a thought. Good Luck!

Bob Bennet
Bob Bennet
  Huck Finn
January 5, 2017 1:00 pm

Hey Huck,
Just for fun why don’t you attempt to defend that list above. Start with usury laws. Why should we regulate lending? Why shouldn’t we allow endless loan sharking? Why should a borrower ever get to pay off his debt? Why can’t I raise my fee and interest on the fool that borrowed from me to like a 100% a day?

Next perhaps you could defend taking away social security and medicare. They just cause more misery by allowing the old to live a decent, longer life with a roof over their heads, why should we do that?

Explain why we don’t need the FAA to insure that planes are in a certain condition when they take off? The industry will control these things itself with the profit motive at the front of their thinking… right?

Feel free to defend the whole list. I could use the laugh….

Oh and Huck… Just to be clear without certain types of “collectivism” your knuckles would be dragging a lot more than they currently are today. No Highways for certain, no supermarkets, no.. Now who did invent the internet so that you could curse the existence of those that you despise?

Hint: It wasn’t Al Gore.. DARPA sound familiar? Now what is that? EVIL GUBBERMINT! And the cellphone, it rides on the internet and uses protocols developed for and by.. Oh bother.. if you don’t know, what is the point?

Yup! We’d all be better off without this internut thingy and cellphones. At least then I wouldn’t have to know just how ignorant the entire population can be at times.
Blisssssssss….

If you understand economics, then perhaps you can tell us what will happen when your hard on is satisfied? Kill Odramacare-Goodbye rural hospitals and watch the bigger ones stumble and shrink while unemployment rises in the heathcare industry and spills into the general economy. Not to mention who will die as a result but then who cares about that? Good Idea..

Next! Get rid of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid-goodbye granny and gramps, you just stopped being “makers” so you just have to go. No food or shelter for you! Goodbye you poor people that Darwin is apparently deciding don’t deserve to live or at least live comfortably because you got sick. Better make way for Granny and gramps in your house if they lose their minds because that’s where the money to care for them comes from.. Medicaid.

Don’t let me enlighten you as to the horrific effects if all of these policies were to be enacted upon us. The economic devastation, like total and death, why should we care at all? I’m healthy!

Virginia
Virginia
January 4, 2017 11:30 am

Great comments.
Thank you for updating The Fourth Turning. I found it a bit of a tough read. Maybe I’ll keep a copy in the bunker, to pass the time.
News Flash fear: BHO nominates self to Supreme Court ?.

Agnes
Agnes
  Virginia
September 13, 2018 11:37 am

I was so fearful that would happen if Hillary won. There were so many things Trump’s win put a stop to… the complete sellout of the SCOTUS was one of them. It could still happen but at least we don’t have to watch it happen while she cackles in the background.

d
d
January 4, 2017 4:05 pm

As the world turns…John and Lindsey holding hands and having many hissie fits , together…and we are told on a daily basis that the people of the USA do not care for each other….the fore mentioned picture rebuke’s the nay sayers….as the Rainbow flag has flown on the white house and now shines on Congress…don’t ya just love the caring neo-cons of the month…..imho

Paul Bertan Ph.D.
Paul Bertan Ph.D.
January 4, 2017 10:29 pm

Obama will use emergency powers to remain in office.

Bob Bennet
Bob Bennet
  Paul Bertan Ph.D.
January 5, 2017 10:18 am

And they gave you a Ph.D. They must have a low bar for those these days!

He’s gonna take your guns too! In the next like 15 days…

Black secret Muslim man has gotta work fast to.. Oh never mind they, them, those non whites are all lazy and George Soros is funding all of them… BO as well. So I guess you get to keep your guns for now..

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
January 4, 2017 11:26 pm

MAGA:

More Aggressive Government Actions
Mexicans Are Going Away
Media Are Goofy Asses

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 5, 2017 5:49 pm

Bob Bennet is an asshole polluting this forum.

Bob Bennet
Bob Bennet
  Anonymous
January 5, 2017 6:36 pm

Yea, I suppose that you like only those who post ignorance like yourself. For jebus sake, don’t spend a moment looking for information that might conflict with your well cultivated BS constructed world. That would be heresy… Right? Two fingers, two eyes or ears and it all just stops.. Fixed!

Unlike you I prefer to wade into the garbage that people like you spew. I try to correct it but ignorance know no bounds. I see people even down voted a Thomas Jefferson quote that is now becoming more true by the day. So you want to be a slave in the kingdom of the rich that used to be known as America but is now better called merica.. Got Gun?

Name calling is obviously the solution, certainly not trying to defend your belief since that’s almost impossible without mental gymnastics. However, there is a requirement that you do some work, read things called facts, turn off the partisan radio / tv / internet, but of course, that’s obviously not going to happen. Good Luck!

Llpoh
Llpoh
January 5, 2017 7:00 pm

Here is the thing about libtards. They say they want to help the poor, the elderly, the unfortunate.

But in fact, no they do not.

They in fact want you to do those things. They want to force you, at the barrel of a gun, to do all those things.

Hell, there are so many libtards, they could just cover all the costs by sending in the funds voluntarily. But no.

Because they do not actually believe what they say. They want to be the beneficiaries of the largesse of producers, not the providers of such largesse.

Bob Bennet
Bob Bennet
  Llpoh
January 5, 2017 7:59 pm

Being a Republican of the party before assholes took over that sound an awful lot like you, I took care of my mother, who died of Alzheimer in my home. My wife helped but I took the majority of the responsibility. It’s a lot of work, believe me. So perhaps you are correct about “Libtards” I wouldn’t know but it’s a broad brush that you have there. Perhaps you could find some real evidence of this that didn’t come out of Rush’s loud mouth?

The whole trip to death took almost six years and was mentally exhausting but well worth it. She died with dignity in a house that contained people that absolutely cared about her. Will that happen for you?

Oh and we have taken in two children that weren’t our own and helped them to adulthood. Can you say anything close to that? I believe in personal responsibility but I also know that all “men” are not created equal. Some don’t get a working brain and some lose that working brain as they go through life, amongst other very useful body parts that you take for granted..

Shit sometimes happens…

*********************WOW********************

Just amazing.. down votes on everything here. The one thing that has become obvious at this forum, there’s not a whole lot of deep thought. I never see a rebuttal that isn’t just hatred, name calling or thoughtless regurgitated gibberish of the libertarian type. I know that this is a den of extreme thought and I read the article and sadly see how I must agree with only one thing. We are definitely disintegrating as a country mostly because people like yourselves here would prefer security to freedom but claim the opposite. You blame the wrong people for immigration. The US caused this in 2003 till.. Yup Military adventurism and Republicans love it. Make more “terrorists” by bombing their families. Make more refugees by destroying their whole cities.. We do it all just so we can be “safe”?

Unless somebody really wants to offer a thoughtful rebuttal, I’m probably gone.. Reserve the name calling for your kids cuz that’s some good lernin toolz 2 pass on

GM
GM
  Bob Bennet
January 5, 2017 8:36 pm

Bob , life is not fair . It is harsh by my reckoning . I have an abundance of way misplaced anger that has been taken out on others . I do pray that my sincere apologies to those I have taken it out on , has been accepted .
If not , well I do understand lol . I have a way shorter time ahead of me than I do behind me .
It is what it is .
But when you preach about the benefits of Privately Owned Central Bankers …………. Im going to smack your ass like your lack of education is showing now.
Read your history about how all this shit came to pass , then after you have an appropriate timeline , like say at least 1500 years , you might have an understanding of why things are as fucked up as they are .
Before you respond , research the POCB. Then ,well , MAYBE, if your lucky , you will have a passing knowledge of what you call economics. Which at best is like a pseudo science like psychology .
I am not picking a fight , lol, although it might appear that way ,as I am not well written .
Be well Sir .
Just a cook ,whatever lol

Llpoh
Llpoh
  GM
January 5, 2017 8:47 pm

GM – hiya! We could take up a collection, and pay you a nice fee, if you post a video of that ass-smacking.

All the best.

GM
GM
  Llpoh
January 5, 2017 9:21 pm

lol Sir !
If Mr. Bob is amenable to a public debate pertaining to the current economic cycle foisted on us by the POCB’s ,well currently a nice fee would do wonders for my family situation .
Im almost at current purity levels of commercial insulin .
Although , I have taken and spent for 3D printing of an actual genetic match pancreas .
Basically broke me financially .
It is what it is.
For that issue ,there is currently no real support . It cuts into pharmaceticals profits too much .
Thank you LLPOH , I mean that
Mr. Bob everyone has issues it aint just you sir

Llpoh
Llpoh
  GM
January 5, 2017 9:30 pm

GM – sorry re your health issues. Truly. Anything to do with the pancreas is serious business.

But I would like you to get on making that vid!

Bob Bennet
Bob Bennet
  GM
January 5, 2017 8:58 pm

I posted this above..
“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered…. I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies…. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”

-Thomas Jefferson

It’s pretty obvious what I think. We Agree on the central bankers but I know no historical better alternative. A lot have been tried and all fail eventually. Economics is a major part of an MBA so yea I might know a little bit of it and yes it’s a social science with a lot of fairly predictable moving parts, but not always. A lot of what you hear is econ isn’t, it’s just crap to fill the 24 hour news cycle.

Llpoh
Llpoh
January 5, 2017 8:08 pm

Bob – you poor thing. I am all teared up. I mean, the cross you had to bear was just so terrible. And unique.

You are a fuckwit. You think no one else had such issues? I have no idea what “Rush” thinks about any damn thing. I would not even know what he looks like.

I have eyes to see. I read your list re the Libertarian platform. I am in agreement with many of the items. Anyone with sense would be.

Bob Bennet
Bob Bennet
  Llpoh
January 5, 2017 9:01 pm

I don’t think that I did anything any thoughtful person wouldn’t. Your anger tells me to feel sorrow for your family but maybe this is just your troll face.

“I read your list re the Libertarian platform. I am in agreement with many of the items. Anyone with sense would be.”
Ok so perhaps you could list them off and tell us why you agree and what your alternative course would be.. That would be a good conversation.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Bob Bennet
January 5, 2017 9:18 pm

Ok, Boob – I will play awhile. My comments point by point.

“We urge the repeal of federal campaign finance laws, and the immediate abolition of the despotic Federal Election Commission.”

Campaign finance laws seem to me to abridge the First Amendment. FEC does some stupid things. So I generally agree here.

“We favor the abolition of Medicare and Medicaid programs.”
“We oppose any compulsory insurance or tax-supported plan to provide health services, including those which finance abortion services.”

Government should not be in the welfare game – at all. It was not the Framers intent. So I agree.

“We also favor the deregulation of the medical insurance industry.”
Probably disagree.

“We favor the repeal of the fraudulent, virtually bankrupt, and increasingly oppressive Social Security system. Pending that repeal, participation in Social Security should be made voluntary.”

Agree. See welfare state above. SS is bankrupt. People should look after their own retirement.

“We propose the abolition of the governmental Postal Service. The present system, in addition to being inefficient, encourages governmental surveillance of private correspondence. Pending abolition, we call for an end to the monopoly system and for allowing free competition in all aspects of postal service.”
I agree re the monopoly part. The postal Service needs to stand on its own 2 legs.

“We oppose all personal and corporate income taxation, including capital gains taxes.”

Boy, howdy, do I agree.

“We support the eventual repeal of all taxation.”
No. Replace income taxes with sales taxes. Vastly reduce govt expenditure.

“As an interim measure, all criminal and civil sanctions against tax evasion should be terminated immediately.”
No need for interim measure.

“We support repeal of all law which impede the ability of any person to find employment, such as minimum wage laws.”

Oh, yes, I agree. No need to regulate the wage market – it hurts the most vulnerable, and cripples small biz.

“We advocate the complete separation of education and State. Government schools lead to the indoctrination of children and interfere with the free choice of individuals. Government ownership, operation, regulation, and subsidy of schools and colleges should be ended.”
“We condemn compulsory education laws … and we call for the immediate repeal of such laws.”

Yup, agree. For the most part. Govt schools are a disgrace.

“We support the repeal of all taxes on the income or property of private schools, whether profit or non-profit.”
I oppose all income and property taxes. So I agree.
“We support the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency.”

Oh, hell yes.

“We support abolition of the Department of Energy.”

Yassuh, I agree.

“We call for the dissolution of all government agencies concerned with transportation, including the Department of Transportation.”

Yup yup yup.

“We demand the return of America’s railroad system to private ownership. We call for the privatization of the public roads and national highway system.”

No. That is one area where govt is needed – infrastructure.

“We specifically oppose laws requiring an individual to buy or use so-called “self-protection” equipment such as safety belts, air bags, or crash helmets.”

Yes. Basic human freedom at stake.
“We advocate the abolition of the Federal Aviation Administration.”
Not so sure there.

“We advocate the abolition of the Food and Drug Administration.”
Not so sure there, either.

“We support an end to all subsidies for child-bearing built into our present laws, including all welfare plans and the provision of tax-supported services for children.”
Oh, yes. That is a private matter.

“We oppose all government welfare, relief projects, and ‘aid to the poor’ programs. All these government programs are privacy-invading, paternalistic, demeaning, and inefficient. The proper source of help for such persons is the voluntary efforts of private groups and individuals.”

Totally agree.

“We call for the privatization of the inland waterways, and of the distribution system that brings water to industry, agriculture and households.”
No. Infrastructure and waterways belong to all.

“We call for the repeal of the Occupational Safety and Health Act.”
Probably.

“We call for the abolition of the Consumer Product Safety Commission.”
Probably.

“We support the repeal of all state usury laws.”
Absolutely. Buyer beware. Caveat emptor.

So, the vast majority of the items I agree with, the ones re infrastructure ai do not, am an undecided on a couple of agencies.

Llpoh
Llpoh
January 5, 2017 8:45 pm

Boob Bennett says:

“Oh and we have taken in two children that weren’t our own and helped them to adulthood. Can you say anything close to that?”

I just love it when boobs come around crowing about themselves. Like they are God’s gift, and we should just agree with everything they say, because, well, the are just so damn awesome.

Strikes me Boob used to be a Repubbecause he dreamed of success, but now is an ignorant douche libtard because he failed miserably, and realizes his only hope of not eating catfood forever is to jump ship to the free-shit army and hope he does not starve to death.m

He knows nothing about folks here on TBP. But he thinks he is a fucking paradigm of virtue.

All he has done is no more than he should. But for him, taking care of family earns him extra special brownie point credit, and makes his opinion more worthwhile than anyone else!s.

What an ignorant buffoon. You listening, Boob? You deluded libtard.

Bob Bennet
Bob Bennet
  Llpoh
January 5, 2017 9:08 pm

Yea.. How do you think that I could afford to do these things? I’m self employed and own a couple of businesses. I have a lot of free time because my managers are well paid and treated with respect. I fire them if they fail and they know it. But I pay well for performance which leaves me with a lot of time to do stuff that others can’t. My wife just pointed out that we are a team and she is correct. Either way, it doesn’t make me special in any way. It makes me lucky from birth till now and I DON’T take it for granted. I’m not going to be a billionaire but my net worth is likely a multiple of your total life income added to your current net worth. Too bad for you, I wouldn’t bother to tell you except that you think that you know me. You don’t! AND I’m not looking for praise, I was merely responding to someone characterizing me as a “libtard” and claiming that “they” are all about taking other people’s crap. I do NEITHER.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Bob Bennet
January 5, 2017 9:21 pm

Oh, so Boob only does the right thing because he can afford to. That is interesting.

My comment stands – what an ignorant douchebag. The measure of a man’s character is doing the right thing even when it hurts.

Boob obviously will only do the right thing if he can afford it. Nice. We sure attract some weiners.

Bob Bennet
Bob Bennet
  Llpoh
January 5, 2017 9:46 pm

Yah.. you KNOW me.. You are the smart one here. You have it all figured out. Good luck!

Brian
Brian
  Bob Bennet
January 6, 2017 6:06 am

I have read all of your comments, and it appears that you have great faith in government as a solution to the ills of society. I would ask what brings you to that conclusion? History would seem to indicate that faith placed in government is misplaced.
I agree with Jefferson, but I believe you are using his quote in a manner less than genuine. Big banking and the concentrated wealth of the financial industry has not come about by the function of a free and independent market, but rather by governmental intervention. I admit that government needs to exist to restrain evil, but there seems to be very little restraint of evil these days. I am not poot nor am I wealthy by American standards but I am content with what I have. Why such burning contempt for the rich? Sadly, there is precious little hope for the US because there is little in the way of commonality and culture to maintain it. It’s sad really.

Frank
Frank
January 5, 2017 11:14 pm

Your two essays would have been better imho if you had stayed with The Fourth Turning reference, citing the parts of it that resonate with current events. Some readers have not read the book; I read it so long ago that I’ve forgotten some basics. So, I would have leaned more on that work and less on these other guys.

Stucky
Stucky
January 6, 2017 9:18 am

“Just amazing.. down votes on everything here.” ——- Butthurt Bob Bennet

I only read a couple of your posts … when you respond to long time posters … Gayle @5:41 and Llpoh @7:59

You have an extremely condescending attitude. You have the worst possible kind of sarcasm … the kind that insults the readers. You come across as superior, better than everyone else, a fountain of wisdom and all of us should bathe in your glorious enlightened viewpoints. Basically, that’s a lot of verbiage to describe one word …… asshole. Yeah, you exude asshole-ishness.

That’s why you get thumbs down, imho.

However, we’ve had assholes here before, and they get thumbs up. But, you lack one other thing; a sense of humor. I’m talking about your comment “OMG… stop with the bs please” …. which was your response to my Jesus-Trump comparison. A lack of humor here is one of the Greatest Sins.

Not that you are alone. Six other people voted thumbs down. WTF? IMHO that was some pretty funny shit or, at a minimum pretty damned creative …. to mathematically come up with “777” for Jesus and Trump. It was all just for fun. But, 7 fuckers voted thumbs down …. so I know how you feel about the down votes.

It’s not nearly as much fun posting here on TBP as it used to be.

Huck Finn
Huck Finn
  Stucky
January 7, 2017 10:41 pm

That Bob, he sure is a fart smeller.

Llpoh
Llpoh
January 6, 2017 4:11 pm

Stuck – I said that myself just recently. We need a better class of villian. One will happen along, I figure.

Admin – why did you drop this down? It was still generating.

Homer
Homer
January 9, 2017 4:06 pm

Admin–“…I discussed the failure of our brains to think rationally due to our biases and the relentless propaganda flogged by our Deep State ruling class.”

It’s hard or next to impossible to navigate a narrow strait with hidden reefs amid roiling seas in the dark of night without a compass and a chart.

It’s less our brains, biases and propaganda by those who would push an agenda and more a lack of a unifying Ideal held by the people, I think. The Constitution was that Ideal that we held as a nation for centuries even tho it was under attack from time to time. Sadly, the Progressive Socialist Liberals, when in power, have done everything in they could to denigrate it and have attempted to institute Central Planning in place of an amorphous sharing of power between the government and the people as the Constitution specifies.

We as a people, today, are without a compass and find ourselves increasingly rudderless as we try to navigate the perilous seas about us. Without the Constitution, and without Christianity and Judaism, we have no yardstick to measure ‘good behavior’ from ‘bad behavior’. All of our yardsticks are under attack, and being substituted by Socialists for ‘central planning’ by a consortium of elitists and their ever changing endless edicts, trying to form a more perfect Universe. A ‘Procrustean Bed’ if there ever was one!

I find contemptible, Progressive Liberal Socialists, who appeal to a higher ideal of Altruism, “we are our brothers keeper”, and that we have an obligation to take care of our ‘brother’ over our own needs. Yes, like the altruistic Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Chavez, and of course the CCS, the Clinton Crime Syndicate. Throw in Bernie Sanders, too. I don’t think Bernie is stupid or naive enough to believe his Socialist crap, but then again “man’s capacity for stupidity is unlimited”. These people all got wealthy and many insanely so, on the back of those that they oppressed. That is the true legacy of Socialism, ‘something for nothing’. Something for the Elitist and nothing for you. The Clinton’s are the true poster boy of the Socialist agenda, serving the public sure does pay well.

The violence of Stalin, Mao, and Castro is so passé. Today it’s propaganda and an appeal to a Utopian future, unless of course, it becomes necessary to resort to violence when all else fails. People eventually wake up and the propaganda and the appeal fails, leaving only violence. but it’s for your own good, after all “The Ends Justifies the Means”.

If we are to navigate safely from this shore to another, we must have a reliable compass and I put to you that compass is an Ideal, not an idea, that we as a nation can hold in common, and I put to you, also, that Ideal is the Constitution. Those timeless principles written on paper by our Founding Fathers for all nations to see. Paper is paper and fades over time. To endure, these principles must be written in the hearts and souls of Americans. That’s what gives meaning and life to that aged document.

In the Constitutional Ideal, we can come together and we can “Make America Great Again”.

P.S. Admin, emotions trump rational thinking every time.

Pekka
Pekka
February 3, 2017 2:04 pm

Dear Admin! I wonder how I missed your articles above at new years. Anyways, I read yesterdays Contra Corner and was absolutely positively surprised by your writing, again, this time of the “Scary prediction for 2017”, posted at Lew Rockwell’s. I couldn’t agree more! I had to share it on FB to inform all the 2 friends who actually read my shares and the rest +100 who ignores my shit in their numbness or their neo liberal self-righteous awareness (?). It’s amazing how energizing someones’s writing can be. I hope I could express myself in a similar manner some day, independently! Now, I feel more like a hang around member, a wanna be, copying other peoples thoughts. Thanks for an inspiring article! WBRGDS from Finland