The Day At The DMV

Guest post by The Zman

My driving license had expired so I was forced to head down to the local motor vehicle office to get it renewed. The state offers a “service” for renewing by mail, but this requires getting a separate eye exam, filling out some forms and hoping that the postal service does its job. Having had my state tax returns lost the last two years, my confidence in that link in the chain is not very high, so I elected to do it the old fashioned way. That meant standing in lines and dealing with surly functionaries of the state.

When you enter the place, you are “greeted” by a functionary that asks you for the purpose of your visit. You are then assigned a number or directed to a kiosk. More on that in a bit. The numbers are assigned in a way that almost seems random. The person in front of me got “G23” and I was given “B80.” The idea is to make sure no one waiting truly knows who is next in the queue. Maybe they had riots in the past or perhaps people sold their place in line. Maybe there is no reason for it.

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The office near me is not in the ghetto, but serves the ghetto so that means lots of vibrancy in the waiting area. One of the first things I noticed was that many of the people there were trying to pay off violations, mostly parking tickets. The angry greeter at the front desk barked at those people to get in the line for the “self-service” kiosks against the wall. He had that look of a man irritated that these people had interrupted his work, even though his work was to greet people entering the facility.

Of course, these kiosks could be located all over the malls and shopping centers around the state so people could do this task anywhere and at any time. For that matter, this could be a phone app, but that’s not how the government works. The kiosks are not for your convenience. They exist for the convenience of the government workers. In all probability they were sold to the state as a way to make life easier for the clerks, who had to haggle with citizens over unpaid fines. Given the color of the place, it is not irrational.

Of course, the lines for those machines were long as most of the machines were out of order. Then you have the fact that the diverse community is not very good at following instructions. You see this in fast food joints where they struggle to order from the menu. A system that requires someone to select from a menu of options, with no modifications, is never going to do well in the diverse community. The result is a struggle of diverse man versus machine, with outbursts and demands for service from the staff.

I spotted a Muslim women in a trash bag shuffling up to one of the counters. Two swarthy men were hovering around her. They guarded her virtue as she exposed her head for the license photo. From what I saw, they have no fears of rival males carrying her off. Everyone in the place was intently watching the scene, even the surly functionaries. For a minute, all of us were plugged into the collective consciousness, wondering why our rulers are doing this to us.

This is an example of why open borders will end in disaster. In a world without government, people will sort themselves out, one way or another. In the custodial state, everyone is dealing with the state. That means the interface has to accommodate all comers. In a world where the picture ID is critical, a people who think photos steal their soul or make Allah angry with their women is doomed to failure. The DMV can handle Mexican fruit pickers, it cannot adapt to Bronze Age barbarians.

The funny thing about the diverse community is they will sit forever, waiting for government service. Honkies get impatient with lines and expect the government to work like the private sector. The diverse are much more reasonable in this regard. Everyone had head phones so they could listen to their music while they stared at their phones, doing whatever it is they do on their phones. They came prepared to entertain themselves for the day. Maybe it is from habit or maybe it is from nature. Regardless, these are not people who will be voting libertarian.

That’s the other thing you see in a government office. Libertarianism works fine as long as your society is composed of high IQ sociopaths, who can manage on their own. Once you have people like those working for the state, and getting services from the state, libertarianism collapses. The people in the waiting area not only need rules, they need help following the rules. That’s not going to happen through voluntary association. Unless you have genocide in your heart, libertarianism cannot survive outside the lab.

The other interesting thing is that the motor vehicle office no longer issues a license. It is mailed to you. I did a little sleuthing and discovered that the selling of ID’s was a problem. No one admits it, but the rules they have in place now are clearly aimed at preventing insiders from selling your information. Allegedly, they now account for each blank that is used for a license. By mailing it, they insure the person applying for the license is at the location they claim.

This will not work so the next step will be bio-metric ID’s where you provide a thumbprint or some other biologically unique credential. All of our credentials will eventually be multi-factor authentication. That means you will present the physical ID, some sort of randomized PIN that is linked to the ID and a password. Secure facilities do this for system access. Adding a thumbprint or DNA sample is the logical next step once the costs are low enough to make it practical.

That also means all of us will be in the government database. Our medical records, credit history, internet pornography interests, will all be tied to our official government issued citizen ID. It’s not unreasonable to think that people will have a chip implanted at birth that links to the ID and other items that require authentication for access. It’s not happening tomorrow, but you can see where it is headed when you look at things like Real ID. Like a fungus, this is slowly growing on us and will one day feel like a normal part of life.

Of course, it will still require us to stand in line to get our license renewed.

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steve
steve
January 19, 2017 9:31 am

I live in “rural” Ohio. I`m a educated, bright pretty well traveled guy. If you think this stupidity is limited by “color” you are very sadly mistaken. MY DMV is chock FULL white trash losers who could give ANY city dweller a run for their money when it comes to being a dreg of society.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 19, 2017 9:38 am

Mailing a license also guards against fake addresses to obtain a DL for identity that is official but also fake identification. If you use a false address you don’t get your license since that is where it went instead of you walking out with it at the time.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Anonymous
January 19, 2017 1:52 pm

Only if someone has to sign for it.
I’ve had plenty of tenants allow other people to use their address.

javelin
javelin
January 19, 2017 9:45 am

License renewal and re-registering cars seems criminal to me.
Last time I needed my license renewed I had to go in to an MVA express because you can’t renew online 2 times in a row (they require the eye check).
I asked the lady behind the kiosk, “why do driving licenses expire?”, “I have had no tickets, I am relatively young, I have committed no offenses that would preclude me losing my driving privileges, why does the license have an expiration date?”
She looked at me with the dumbest, blank expression. Either it had never occurred to her why we must pay over and over for the same service or she thought I had 2 heads for questioning the govt shakedown. Eventually the slow, barely competent A-A woman who was trying to type with 4-inch, elaborately, painted fingernails said, ” we need the fees to pay everyone’s salaries” Ding, ding ding–we have a winner!

TampaRed
TampaRed
  javelin
January 19, 2017 1:56 pm

According to Pat Buchanan,Ronald Reagan did not believe in driver’s licenses until he,Buchanan,convinced him otherwise.
I usually like Buchanan but to me that’s a black mark against him.
Go Gipper!

Dutchman
Dutchman
January 19, 2017 9:48 am

The DMV here in Minnesota, has a lot for 50 cars – I’m not shitting you – half the spaces are marked for handicapped.

At the mall they have spaces marked: handicapped, pregnant, wound war vets … Jesus H Christ! I’m thinking about getting a big ass pipe cutter, take it all with me.

BSHJ
BSHJ
  Dutchman
January 19, 2017 12:11 pm

They really have a parking spot for Jesus H Christ?

Miles Long
Miles Long
  Dutchman
January 19, 2017 12:24 pm

Cool Hand Dutchman?

unit472
unit472
January 19, 2017 10:24 am

One reason DMV’s are an essential interface between the state and its citizens ( or, in the case of California, non citizens) is to have the citizen be identified and scrutinized. I read the sheriff’s arrest reports on line it is astonishing how many people with revoked or suspended licenses DRIVE to the DMV to pay their delinquent fines, renew their auto registration, transfer titles and other mandatory tasks. Of course there are Sheriff’s deputies on site equipped with license plate scanners though, truth is, the deputy is going to recognize the guy arrested for DUI last summer and if he comes driving into the DMV he will be arrested before he leaves the parking lot.

overthecliff
overthecliff
January 19, 2017 10:54 am

Few of us like being robbed by the state, including me. My experience in Missouri and Indiana is that the process does not have to be very painful. Do not go to get licenses at the end of the month. Go with the necessary paper work and be civil to the clerks. While not pleasant it can be tolerable.

have fun storming the castle
have fun storming the castle
  overthecliff
January 19, 2017 11:07 am

also never go to the dmv the last week in august or the first 2 weeks of September, that’s when all the high school students go to get their school ID cards-this was an eye opener for me as I didn’t realize the gv’t started tracking them that early-

Stucky
Stucky
January 19, 2017 1:02 pm

“That also means all of us will be in the government database. Our medical records, credit history, internet pornography interests, will all be tied to our official government issued citizen ID.” ——— from the article

Doesn’t HAVE to be that way …..

I HAD to submit to a credit report / background check in order to get approved to move into the mansion. The mansion realtor sent it to my realtor who gave it to me. I completed it and gave it back to my realtor. A day later my realtor calls me and asks we if I’m sure I gave the right name/ssn. Yes, I did. She says, “Well that’s odd because it shows you haven’t used any credit of any kind in the last 15 years. In fact, there’s hardly any info about your activities/life at all.” That’s right, I tell her. And it’s staying that way because my business isn’t anyone elses business, and if the landlord doesn’t like that he can kiss my hairy ass and find another tenant. (It wasn’t a problem for the landlord … they already met me, and they liked me.)

I also told her that I falsified a lot of the questions because, again, the details they want about me ain’t none of their fucking business and I ain’t giving it out. I told her some of it would be obvious. For example, believe it or not, the form asked why am I leaving the current premises? Wtf? Again, go fuck a duck cuz it’s none of your goddamned business. So I wrote (really) — “Every time I take a shit the toilets overflow and there’s shit everywhere. I need a house with higher water pressure.”

KaD
KaD
January 19, 2017 1:16 pm

My DMV has a sign on the door allowing ‘people who don’t have proper documentation’ to make an appointment to bypass their standard regulations. How asinine of them.

musket
musket
January 19, 2017 4:58 pm

The Alexandria, VA DMV back in the day was like the bar scene in star wars……I wonder what it’s like now……..

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
January 19, 2017 5:22 pm

“Unless you have genocide in your heart, libertarianism cannot survive outside the lab.”

That’s straight outta Compton negro!

Why aren’t we required to renew marriage licenses?

MN Steel
MN Steel
January 19, 2017 6:04 pm

If the author believes that all the various databases aren’t linked by name, phone, SSN, and IP address, among sundry other query types, more power to him…

Llpoh
Llpoh
January 19, 2017 7:49 pm

In the Australian version of the DMV, I have never seen a white face behind the counters. It is always immigrants – especially beaurocracy loving Indians (Asian not red).

Interesting, no? Sorta like how blacks are massively over-represented in govt services in the US. If the govt does not give them jobs, given that they are rock-dumb, speak piggen English (or eubonics, in the US) and are totally incompetent, they would be unemployable in the private sector.

We are fucked.

Phil from Oz
Phil from Oz
  Llpoh
January 19, 2017 9:55 pm

Dunno where you are, sunbeam, but “our” local RMT Licencing Office is VERY “all-white”, and VERY efficient. It’s so white that we have an Albino lady working there – and she tends to freak the locals out somewhat (I suspect it’s the somewhat pink eyes and paper-white hair that does it! 🙂 )
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RiNS
RiNS
January 19, 2017 8:13 pm

Reading that I can’t help but be reminded of the Huxley book Brave New World. Each of us marked and itemized.

Warren
Warren
January 19, 2017 10:37 pm

Was at the Florida License Bureau last month, the Nuevo Amercano in front was there for a license test, the clerk asked him if the person who drove him was with him, he said, in barley passable English, no one brought me I drove my self, the clerk just rolled her eyes.

As for the whole photo ID, Back in the 60s, in New Hampshire, our licenses did not even have pictures on them.

RHS Jr
RHS Jr
January 20, 2017 12:01 am

In 2013, an AA Tallahassee DMV Black female told me to “Read the smallest line you can”. I said I can’t read Chinese (I watched her set it on Chinese Characters when I stepped up because I look like a Hillbilly and 95% of Blacks must instantly hate me; they have discriminated against me probably a thousand times). She said then you are legally blind. I said I was a USAF Pilot and still see good so if I’m legally blind, everybody is legally blind; you set the machine on Chinese when I stepped up and I saw you do it. She said get out of the line now or I’ll call the Cop and told the guy behind me to step up which he did. I stepped to the left and got my picture taken and my new license which still says “Restrictions: A-Corrective Lenses”. I immediately went to an Optometrists who said I was 20:20 in one eye and 20:30 in the other (to my surprise) and she gave me a letter saying I did not need any glasses. Go on you Black Morans and start Race War II (#1 was with the Native Americans who I admire and my kids grandmother was a wonderful Cherokee Woman). But in Frontier days, to many Indians kept murdering Whites until the POTUS told the Army and citizens to solve the Frontier Problem (without mercy) and people did.

forester
forester
January 20, 2017 1:06 am

In the mid 1980’s I was working as a contractor in New Mexico and hit a police checkpoint. The officer looked at me California drivers license and ticketed me cuz it had expired two weeks previous – I protested to the officer that I would be back in California in month – he told me to “tell it to the judge”.

So I go to the courthouse in Reserve New Mexico in 1984 – the clerk sent me to the judge’s office in the old two story adobe courthouse. I knock and a voice says “come in” – there is the judge sitting behind a very large mahogany desk in his robes. I plead my case – he says “what do you mean it takes six weeks to get a drivers license in California. You will get a New Mexico drivers license in 20 minutes – pay the $35.00 fine and go to the basement and tell the clerk I sent you.” “By the way” he said, “that will cost you another $20.00”

So I go downstairs into the basement with my paperwork. The clerk has me sit in a large plastic device with a console and camera – she says “smile” and the whole contraption began to vibrate and hum – five minutes later a piece of plastic emerged from the top of the machine – she broke it in half and handed me my new drivers license.

The really cool thing was that when I held the license at an angle to the light …. it was a hologram – “State of New Mexico” was in 3-D …. in 1984!

I still have that license – and firmly believe to this day that was the best DMV I have ever seen ……