Today, I believe, is the most pivotal time in all of America’s history.
So, here’s your question:
Before you answer, briefly consider these four things;
1)- ” … there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.” — Rom 13:1
2)- “In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last Trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.” ——- 1 Cor 15:52
3)- “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the Trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first” ——- 1 Thess 4:16
4)- Some (many?) people believe we are living in the End Times. If so, the book of Revelation tell us that there will be worldwide death, destruction, and disasters as never before experienced by humanity. There are only three countries who can inflict such utter destruction; USA, Russia, and China (all mentioned in the Bible) ….. and a fourth country which can/will be the spark that lights the fuse (Israel).
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Here’s what I think is a reasonable proposition. Just like Obama was Satan’s Chosen One …. based on the above four items, it certainly seems reasonable to believe that Trump is God’s Chosen One.
Wow. God is back in town … makin’ America great again!
” We would all like a God who is just like us, …. ” —— Gayle
And that’s exactly what you get in the Bible.
A God who gets pissed off (and over some truly ridiculous minutiae), is happy, sad, even lonely, angry, loving, indifferent, demanding, forgiving, not-so-forgiving, jealous — very jealous, capricious, vague, then extremely specific, disappears for long periods of time, practices favoritism often, makes promises then abrogates those promises, says not to kill then kills people, and even feels sorry for things he has done. That’s for starters.
If those aren’t HUMAN qualities, then I don’t know what is.
Well he does say he made us in his own image. On the other hand, there is that “my ways are not your ways” verse.
If you are indeed a deist, as you suggested elsewhere, then you believe that there is a great Creator but he is generally indifferent to the affairs of men. Why does the Bible bother you so much? A deist would just let it go, I think, and let the poor simpletons who need a crutch in their lives believe the fairy tales as they like. Or you could just cut up the Bible like Thomas Jefferson did until it agrees with your views. At any rate, the question “Is GOD back in town?” would not occur to a true deist, do you think? Would Jefferson be throwing around verses about the “last trump?”
Anyway, carry on with your project to prove whatever you will about God. Lively discussion will ensue, I am sure.
I read your list and clicked on ‘favoritism’.
It’s quite plain that god favors the second son often, except in the case of Joseph, Samuel or John. Who are firstborn sons.
Jesus was the firstborn of Mary, he is also the second Adam who is called son of God.
7the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel, the son of Cainan, 38the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
…44It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being;” the last Adam a life-giving spirit. 46
El Coyote,
I wonder if you have ever seen this. It’s one of the amazing proofs of God’s hand in the writing of the scriptures.
From http://www.khouse.org/articles/1996/44/
The geneology from Adam to Noah gives the plan of God for mankind. Translate the names and you will see it.
Hebrew—English
Adam Man
Seth Appointed
Enosh Mortal
Kenan Sorrow;
Mahalalel The Blessed God
Jared Shall come down
Enoch Teaching
Methuselah His death shall bring
Lamech The Despairing
Noah Rest, or comfort.
Isn’t that awesome!
In a sentence it would read;
Man (is) appointed mortal sorrow; (but) the Blessed God shall come down teaching (that) His death shall bring (the) despairing rest.
Here’s the Gospel hidden within a genealogy in Genesis!
(You will never convince me that a group of Jewish rabbis conspired to hide the Christian Gospel right here in a genealogy within their venerated Torah!)
And I don’t know if I ever told you this, but when you read the way God told the Israelites to place their tribes in their encampments, it makes a design that can only be seen from the sky.
That is the design of a cross! 🙂
Maranatha!
Blessings:-}
Yes, and if you had not skipped Cain an Abel, you would have seen that man is described as sick and in need of healing.
I was impressed with the realization that, over and over, the bible tells the story of a fallen and rejected firstborn and an accepted second born, Adam/Jesus, Esau/Jacob, Moses/Aaron. Then there are those who are chosen then replaced, Saul/David, Peter/Paul…
16For we did not follow cleverly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of His majesty. 17
Thanks El Coyote,
The word of God shows His manifold wisdom:-) Learning from the scriptures never ends in this life. In the words of the infamous Stucky, sometimes I think I have forgotten more than I’ve learned. Or something like that:-D
Blessings:-}
“I would love to hear your personal experiences as to why you HATE GOD so much.” —–platoplubius
I don’t hate God. You can’t hate something you think does not exist.
I’m not an atheist. I just think the Biblical god (and all other gods) are nothing more than myths and stories … with the Biblical god being somewhat particularly kooky.
I identify with Deism more than any other belief. You’ll have to look it up if you don’t know what it is.
I wasn’t always like that. At one time, and for a long time, I was a diehard rabid fundy believer. Then I started reading the Bible critically (as opposed to just believing the standard story line), and over time I came to find that the Bible is chock full of errors and inconsistencies, from minor to quite major. And then I came to understand how we actually got the Bible — and, man oh man, that’s a real clusterfuck, imho. And once you lose faith/belief in the Source Document, then it’s curtain time. Auf wiedersehn, lieber Gott.
I’m not going to argue with you about any of this. You asked … and I took the time to briefly summarize my 50+ year affair with Christianity.
Stucky says:
January 21, 2017 at 8:11 pm
And then I came to understand how we actually got the Bible — and, man oh man, that’s a real clusterfuck, imho.
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Do tell, I’d like to hear it. Honest Injun.
” …. the question “Is GOD back in town?” would not occur to a true deist, do you think?” ——– Gayle
I said I “identify” with Deism. I never said I was 100% all in. I’m not all-in on any religious ideology. Also, I must temper my Deistic leanings with my other function in TBP life ….. Chief Shit Stirrer. For example, the title “God is back in town” …. am I talking about God (who is in all places at all times and, therefore, can never leave), or was I referring to Trump? I think, Trump. This is what shit stirrers do.
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“Why does the Bible bother you so much? ”
I believed in and followed it for more than half my life. I was fooled. I don’t like being fooled. So, vengeance is mine, saith Stucky.
If you ever really believed the Bible you were not fooled. If you really do not believe the Bible now then you have been truly deceived.
There are lots of liars out there who have tried in vain to impugn the verasity of the Bible. I suppose you listened to their lies and have become a fool just like them. Sad:-(
In your blindness you can not see that they failed miserably. And so have you.
Someone here said they knew you had a black belt in Bible. But, what they did not see is that the only black belt you really have is in bitterness. Only the God you currently reject has the means to heal you from this.
Blessings:-}
Veracity
“Veracity”
Thanks 🙂
Blessings:-}
Let’s see. I am —> “fooled”, a “fool”, “deceived”, “blind”, “failed miserably”, and “bitter”.
And then you add the most insincere bullshit closing of all time —> Blessings:-}
How about you go find a statue of Jeebus and stick those “blessings” up his porcelain ass.
Another thing that turned me away from Christianity is the fuckwit insincere hypocrite back-biting slanderous murderous cocksuckers who claim to be followers … people exactly like you.
I really wish I knew where you lived so I could bless your balls with my size 14 shoe. I’d also like to punch you in your smug little Christian face with my black belt Bible. Listen fuknut, I’ve read your regurgitated bible commentary …. and I can assure you I’ve forgotten more than you ever knew, you piece of whaleshit.
Blessings:} Asshole
“Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;”.
See, God does know you.
Blessings:-}
Ladies and Gents
Its the Ole Time Gospel Hour.
Starring everyones favourite Ed the witness.
Splaining to Stucky the error of his ways.
In a moment of honesty he finally tells the truth.
That those who dont think as him are fools.
Reminds of a saying “Fool me Once..”
From another great Christian..
Rob, We’re taking this bitch to 200, come hell or high water. Are you with us or are you against?
Just let Ed witness, ok?
This comment brings it to 191.
The person who hits 200 will get my signed edition of The Satanic Bible.
Oh its on!
Satanic Bible signed by the biggest shitlord on TPB! No disrespect Stuckmeister. I really respect you!
Now if we can get Ed to quit spanking the monkey with all this endtimes porn horseshit and we can get over the hump. So ta speak.
So Ed give the palms a rest and pull another curl from your shorts. Souls need corruptin’
194
heh heh heh
Clarification: The SB isn’t signed by me. It’s signed by Anton LaVey himself. Really. (I picked it up at a garage sale in Indiana many years ago.)
195 !! (I submitted two posts the other day. This one is soon to be 200. The other one — Trumps Speech — hit over 100. That’s gotta be some kind of record. I almost have a woody just thinking about it.)
Satanic Blessings:-{
Did Satan sign it or did you sign it in your blood?
I was out for the count so I am challenging it to 666.
Nope, I won that thing fair and square. We’re not changing the rules because you were taking a nap after killing bunnies all afternoon.
How about if we sweeten the deal with a prize? I’ll send you a bag of Chubby Bunny Granola Nuggets if we can get to 666 before Valentine’s Day. You’ll get Chubby Bunny Turf-Building Pellets if we do not.
Umm, I don’t know. We had a bunny last winter that hung out with the chickens. He escaped, never to be seen again. He had provided many, many Turf-Building Pellets. My wife convinced me they tasted just like Raisinets. They most assuredly do not.
I have a serious question for the faithful. I know I am going to suffer in a lake of fire for eternity because I have rejected Our Lord and Savior, but about the poor ignorant uncontacted indigenous tribes in the Brazilian rainforest? Where do they go, since they never heard the Good News about Jesus?
Just curious.
198!
Dawg
No need to worry Ed is going to save them
Cause
When he ain’t fapping
He is a yapping.
A fuck you Haiku
And for you know who!
199
…14Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death—the lake of fire. 15And if anyone was found whose name was not written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Lake of fire for the jungle-dwellers, then?
Hardly seems fair. But then, God works in mysterious ways…
I used to sit in church when the missionaries were there begging for money so they could take the Word to the poor tribes of exotic places because the barbarous loincloth-wearing heathens there were bound for HELL, completely lost without the Word. We, like everyone else in this country, got the National Geographic and I knew good and damn well even at 10 years old that the tribes in those beautiful regions looked pretty damned happy and although there were stories about famines and droughts, the relief agencies were well-funded and operated by honest people intent on doing the right thing. However, the missionaries convinced at least a few of the congregation to open their hearts and wallets to them so that those poor natives in Africa and in the South Pacific could escape the pits of hell for enjoying their lives and cultural heritage. (Honestly, those were some beautiful places to visit under the premise of spreading the Word in the 60s, huh?) White AngloSaxon Protestants had no business doing that shit: sending missionaries to teach peoples whose ancestral histories and legends placed them at the Origin of Creation itself how to act right in order to EARN their way into heaven.
Even at ten years old, I knew there was no “durned” (jeepers, I was ten and it was 1971, Groovy!) way — because no matter how anyone read that Word, there was no way a JUST God, no matter how Damned JEAULOUS He was, would hold a bunch of happy African Tribesmen and women and all their little round-bellied kids responsible for their religious beliefs on Judgment Day.
Since valid cosmological theory holds that two similar belief systems which conflict with one another must be compared and contrasted until one or the other is proven false, I reject the notion that one would be eternally punished for something over which you had no control. (Cosmological approach to Intelligent Origin is non-religious, so a Creative Design of the Universe does not require one or another sets of rules for social behavior.)
So, it doesn’t preclude the tribesmen being valid, but suggests the missionaries were doing it for other reasons. Since one always looks first to the ROOT of all evil, it doesn’t take long to find the Dollar Diplomacy that sent missionaries to China sending all sorts of emissaries to resource rich third world countries to contaminate their way of life.
Maggie,
I like your answer. But it begs the question: can we exempt the tribesmen for their ignorance? Rules are rules, after all. Accept Christ (bow before him, as Edwitness would have us do), or burn. Pretty simple.
We exempt them but we don’t adopt them to feed and clothe them.
That is found in Rom.1:20
“For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:”
Blessings:-}
200! I win!
Congrats fellow heathen.
Are you guys heathens for Trump or heathens for Hillary?
Heathens for EL Coyote the Magnificent.
I am working on a golden statue of you as we speak.
All hail EL Coyote!
All hail the Great El Coyote!
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Wrong coyote. That is Uncle Wile E.
AHEM? I think I started the TBP coyote cameo in posts and articles a long time ago, meho.
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My Bad!
Anyways I think what I am going to do is post an original piece here while trying to stick to Stucky’s God and Politics theme. Steam is running low. The box the needs more coal. I’m not sure we can get this sucker to 300. So 666 seems a very long way off.
Also rather than fouling other threads with my pokes at Teddy I think maybe I will put them here. It will scratch the itch to respond without driving another thread into ditch.
Maggie I do want to thank you with this weekend exercise in Japanese Cadence. It is making me realize that rhythm in writing matters just as much as the content.
Thanks, man.
I wonder if Grandmaster Stuck will actually send me that book? I can put it on the shelf next to The Holy Bible my grandparents gave me when I was a teenager, and also the shit-ton of Buddhist books my wife seems to collect.
This comment thread is probably going to get to 666. That poster will be revealed as the anti-Christ of this 4th Turning, eh, Stucky?
I’m not worried, I’m lightning proof. The God my friend Stucky doesn’t believe in isn’t finished with me yet.
–Maggie channeling inner Baptist Church Lady heritage. You can take a country gal away from the country church, but you really can’t get the Country Church out of her. Ever.
That’s awesome Maggie!
Blessings:-}
“200! I win!” ——Rdawg
Congrats!!! Just for your fucken heathen ass, a poem I found on the internet.
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Journey to the darkness we ride together
Where there is none other than
happiness at the end of this road
For it is said to hold mankind’s greatest pleasure
No more will we be held down by the
Almighty force that is God
We will unite to fight for who we are
Not who this God wants us to be
Enough have we endured the pain of
Watching loved ones suffer by gods merciful hand
And no more will we watch the tortures of
Your consumed followers
Guided we have been to freedom
by the Being you call the Devil
For he has let us become our own person
No more do you control me O Mighty One
Thanks!
Nothing original about that poem. Nor any of your thoughts either for that matter Stucky. Nothing new under the sun.
The lie in the poem was first told 6000 years ago. And it keeps working for him just fine. Look how well it has worked with you so far.
Blessings:-} in your case means I hope you are blessed to meet the true Jesus before it’s too late.
So………
Blessings:-}
You go Ed!
You are awesome
Keep Fap Fapping away.
Rob, you and Raw have been actively poking the teddybear and then you whine when Edwitness reacts.
I just take the opportunity to post more verses.
Thank you for playing.
Is “poking the teddybear” some sick PIZZAGATE slang term? I’m reporting you to YO.
I decided I will try to include “PokingTheTeddybear” in my responses here when appropriate and nominate the phrase to be included and archived in the Lexicon, Admin. Between Moran and ShitFlingingMonkeys.
You sure got a funny definition of “whine”.
Spirited debate, perhaps. Vigorous shit-flinging for sure.
Don’t recall any whining. Maybe that’s your perception of “disagreement”.
Ole Coyote don’t say nuthin’ Neither does tarbaby.
EC
Disagree. Me just Pokey no Whiney now. At first I tried to engage Ed in debate. But have grown tired of Chapter and Verse. Fire and Brimstone. Ergo the Fapping meme of late.
#PokingTheTeddybear
What is the Most Important Movie of the 20th Century.
Mine is…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0Xf8IGuuIk