Fumbling Towards Collapse

Guest Post by Jim Kunstler

In all the smoke and fog emitted by Trump and his adversaries, it must be hard to make out the actual issues dogging this society, and even when you can, to find a coherent position on them. This was nicely illustrated in Paul Krugman’s fatuous column in Monday’s New York Times, “On Economic Arrogance” — the title describes Krugman’s own attitude to a T.

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In it, Krugman attempts to account for the no-growth economy by marshaling the stock-in-trade legerdemain of academic economics: productivity, demographics, and labor metrics. Krugman actually knows zip about what afflicts us in the present disposition of things, namely the falling energy-return-on-energy-investment in the oil industry, which is approaching the point where the immense activity of getting oil out of the ground won’t be worth the cost and trouble of doing it. And since most of the things we do and produce in this economy are based on cheap oil — with no reality-based prospect of replacing it with so-called “renewables” or as yet undiscovered energy rescue remedies — we can’t generate enough wealth to maintain anything close to our assumed standard of living. We can’t even generate enough wealth to pay the interest on the debt we’ve racked up in order to hide our growing energy predicament. And that, in a nutshell, is what will blow up the financial system. And when that department of the economy goes, the rest will follow.

So, the real issue hidden in plain sight is how America — indeed all the so-called “developed” nations — are going to navigate to a stepped-down mode of living, without slip-sliding all the way into a dark age, or something worse. By the way, the Ole Maestro, Alan Greenspan, also chimed in on the “productivity” question last week to equally specious effect in this Business Insider article. None of these celebrated Grand Viziers knows what the fuck he’s talking about, and a nation depending on their guidance will find itself lost in a hall of mirrors with the lights off.

So, on one side you have Trump and his trumpets and trumpistas heralding the return of “greatness” (i.e. a booming industrial economy of happy men with lunchboxes) which is not going to happen; and on the other side you have a claque of clueless technocrats who actually believe they can “solve” the productivity problem with measures that really only boil down to different kinds of accounting fraud.

You also have an American public, and a mass media, who do not question the premise of a massive “infrastructure” spending project to re-boot the foundering economy. If you ask what they mean by that, you will learn that they uniformly see rebuilding our highways, bridges, tunnels, and airports. Some rightly suspect that the money for that is not there — or can only be summoned with more accounting fraud (borrowing from our future). But on the whole, most adults of all political stripes in this country think we can and should do this, that it would be a good thing.

And what is this infrastructure re-boot in the service of? A living arrangement with no future. A matrix of extreme car dependency that has zero chance of continuing another decade. More WalMarts, Target stores, Taco Bells, muffler shops, McHousing subdivisions, and other accoutrement of our fast-zombifying mode of existence? Isn’t it obvious, even if you never heard of, or don’t understand, the oil quandary, that we have shot our wad with all this? That we have to start down a different path if we intend to remain human?

It’s not hard to describe that waiting world, which I’ve done in a bunch of recent books. We’re going there whether we like it or not. But we can make the journey to it easier or harsher depending on how much we drag our heels getting on with the job.

History is pretty unforgiving. Right now, the dynamic I describe is propelling us toward a difficult reckoning, which is very likely to manifest this spring as the political ineptitude of Trump, and the antipathy of his enemies, leaves us in a constitutional maelstrom at the very moment when the financial system comes unglued. Look for the debt ceiling debate and another Federal Reserve interest rate hike to set off the latter. There may be yet another converging layer of tribulation when we start blaming all our problems on Russia, China, Mexico, or some other patsy nation. It’s already obvious that we can depend on the Deep State to rev that up.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
February 20, 2017 9:50 am

This article seems to me to have so many things wrong in it that it completely misses any point Kunstler intended to make in his opening statement.

Or maybe I’m just reading it wrong?

Rise Up
Rise Up
  Anonymous
February 20, 2017 1:16 pm

You aren’t reading Kuntsler wrong, Anon. He’s a broken clock that never gets to the 2nd hour.

I bet Kuntsler supports Agenda 21.

(Yes, I am misspelling his name…on purpose.)

Dutchman
Dutchman
February 20, 2017 10:20 am

It is very easy to look at what is, and criticize the hell out of it. However this is a guy with no answers – except to plant your own vegetable garden, and perhaps become the village blacksmith.

He want’s to improve the quality of our lives, well statements like this: “A matrix of extreme car dependency that has zero chance of continuing another decade” are pure bullshit.

I always get pissed off when I hear this bashing of drivers. Look Kunts-ler, us people who work to pay the taxes need a life – yeah I could take the bus to work – it’s about 2 hrs each way + 30 minutes to walk to and from the bus stop. 5 1/2 hrs + 8 = 13 1/2 hrs – leaves me 2 1/2 hrs for the rest of my day. Then are those liberal bike riding fucks who say “well live closer to work” – most of these assholes are waiters. Things change – employers move, employers close, better opportunities at another company. If one owns a home, you going to sell it, every time you change jobs?

Get over it Kunstler, cars and commuting are here to stay for the foreseeable future.

Huck Finn
Huck Finn
February 20, 2017 10:26 am

“So, the real issue hidden in plain sight is how America — indeed all the so-called “developed” nations — are going to navigate to a stepped-down mode of living, without slip-sliding all the way into a dark age, or something worse.”

My hypothesis is that The Powers That Shouldn’t Be have decided on a course of wholesale depopulation to solve this problem. Because they are dedicated Marxists, and because Marxism will always result in economic failure, growing the pie is impossibly problematic within their ideology, so instead they inevitably will work to reduce the number of pie slice recipients. Get rid of the vast majority of retirees and the social security crisis is easily solved. Get rid of the unhealthy and infirm and the health care problem goes away. Environmental problems… kill a few billion useless eaters and you’ve saved the planet. Falling energy-return-on-energy-investment problem? Again knock off a few billion useless eaters and problem solved.

The institutional promotion of chaos and instability, inflaming the masses to be at each others throats, civil unrest leading to civil war. Rising international tensions with the threat of WWIII looming on the not too distant horizon are all indications of the future they have planned for us. Now you have Bill Gates out there “predicting” a massive pandemic. The economic collapse is a mathematical certainty, not a question of if, but when. When that house of cards falls in on itself it will be the spark that ignites the most epic conflagrations in the history of mankind. When the smoke finally clears it is not hard to imagine the human population on the planet Earth being the half billion that TPTB have publicly stated is their ideal goal.

Mix a cocktail, pop some popcorn and sit back and watch the fireworks right up until the moment that they start landing on your front porch. If you are inclined toward spirituality you may want to put that house in order. I really feel sorry for the kids that will suffer through this coming shit storm.

Fergus
Fergus
February 20, 2017 11:45 am

The author demonstrates that most “experts” are clueless.

lmorris
lmorris
February 20, 2017 12:23 pm

oil is not going away, every thing has a price. too many people yes ans ?

michael smith
michael smith
February 20, 2017 12:39 pm

Jim Kunstler wrote: Krugman actually knows zip about what afflicts us in the present disposition of things, namely the falling energy-return-on-energy-investment in the oil industry>>>

I agree he has the same blind spot as almost all of today’s economists do. Nevertheless, it is hard, if even possible, to disentangle the effects of falling EROEI from the effects of rising consumer indebtedness. Household debt is near the levels that preceded the Great Recession, and with wage growth anemic, the spenders who drive GDP growth are getting tapped out. Further, the Baby Boom’s bigger earners (and spenders) with desk jobs, who tend to marry, reproduce, send their kids to college, and retire at later ages than their less well-heeled peers, are finally hitting the time in the lives where they begin to rein in their spending and think more about retirement.

But back to EROEI: I think the EROEI of oil is less important that the EROEI of all energy consumed. In a sense, oil can be “subsidized” by other, higher return energy sources for a while, although I do not disagree that it is an economic drag.

I also think peak oilers have laid too much stress on the eventual day when the EROEI of oil falls all the way to one–1 barrel out for 1 barrel in. We need to look at the EROEI of the total energy mix, and we need to focus on a much higher number. Most of the research in this area has been done by Charles Hall (by the way, he has a good lecture on youtube), and apparently the critical number for total energy is somewhere around 11. Below this approximate level, life as we know it will be over.

Still, I do agree that falling supplies of transport fuel will create a crisis in its own right. I think America’s economic center of gravity will then begin to shift towards areas with the cheapest transportation costs, especially the navigable stretches of the vast Mississippi River valley complex, and the intracoastal waterway that stretches from Corpus Christie to Chesapeake Bay.
And maybe that canal to connect the Mississippi with the Great Lakes will finally get dug. The project was killed in the 19th century because the railroads opposed it, for obvious reasons. Water transport is always cheaper than land transport, but the gap will grow as the price of oil rises inexorably.

Although there has been a modest increase in crude and condensate production (and a big increase in NGL production, although they are just an extender, not a one-for-one substitute for gasoline and diesel), the world has basically been on a crude (I can’t resist the pun) plateau since 2005, and the math says the longer the plateau, the steeper the fall off on the other side.

There are three giant oil producers in the world today. One is Saudi Arabia, which can’t find new fields and keeps production up in its giant main field, Ghawar, by pumping in water to float the oil on top of it–an ominous sign.

Another is Russia, which has been reworking Soviet era fields, resorting to horizontal drilling, and drilling for more oil in its difficult Arctic regions.

Finally, there is the USA, whose oil industry has been revived by costly hydrofracking technology (which was developed and demonstrated experimentally way back in the 1960’s) among shale rock formations. Those experts whose livelihoods do not depend on employment by the drillers say this area of production will go into decline early in the 2020’s.

When any one of these three giant producers clearly “rolls over,” we will likely be back to the same spiking oil prices that we saw in the 2006-2008 period, and major price spikes in oil have always triggered recessions in the past. We should also remember that the spike that climaxed in 2008 also drove up the prices of other energy sources at the same time.

At the time of the OPEC-engineered crisis in the early seventies, we already had the discoveries in the North Sea, the Alaska north slope, and western Siberia in the USSR, and we already had the technology to develop them. It was just a matter of investing the capital and, presto, within a decade, global oil supplies were abundant again. This time there are no giant fields just waiting to be exploited.

I don’t rule out the hope that some miracle-like breakthrough in nuclear power might save our electricity based industrial system (and I really hope it does), but, once made, it would take decades to fully deploy; further, electric batteries will not replace oil for tractor-trailers or planes, which will continue to need carbon-based fuel to pull their heavy loads; and building enough batteries for all our passenger cars will soon lead to bottlenecks in other critical materials, which already require increasing amounts of costly energy to mine as their concentration in the ground becomes ever more dilute.

And although I think Mr. Kunstler is on the Man-made Global Warming True Believer bandwagon, a position I regard as both deluded and wildly optimistic, my own worries are about how our modern infrastructure will hold up under a return of Little Ice Age conditions, which I think are as imminent as our fall off the oil plateau. I can’t help but notice from time to time how relatively minor extremes in weather events collapse roofs, wash out roads, burst water mains, or cause other, fairly serious disruptions to modern life. Everything built since 1870 seems to be built for the climate conditions of the post-1870 period and I worry how it will hold up to a return to the conditions that generally prevailed from 1300 to 1870, roughly. And coming at the same time as a bona fide energy crisis and a global debt crisis and an aging crisis in the developed world (and even in some poorer countries), the total effect will be without analog in the historical record.

I don’t even think about the less likely (in the near future) repeat of a Younger Dryas-like event. We can harden our grid against an EMP attack or a Carrington Event, we can invest in replacement transformers in the event of a low-tech terrorist attack on multiple major transformers at once–we have not taken these precautions, but at least they are possible–but a Dryas-like event would just be “lights out” for civilization outside the tropics, and the tropical countries might be hard-pressed to cope with their less severe climatic changes (droughts and floods, followed by famines, epidemics, and uprisings) with the rest of the world effectively “gone.” But that is probably some generations away yet. Probably. Living near the end of an interglacial can make a fellow gloomy at times.

Fragility times change equals trouble.

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
  michael smith
February 20, 2017 1:32 pm

Michael, in contrast to other TBP commenters who typically respond to a Kunstler piece by bitching he voted for Obama or that his is a Jooo, yours is a well reasoned response. Nice work. Maybe it will educate some of the TBP readers.

SteveW
SteveW
  michael smith
February 20, 2017 6:26 pm

Michael,

You a far too sanguine about the EROEI of oil. And the reason that “it is hard, if even possible, to disentangle the effects of falling EROEI from the effects of rising consumer indebtedness” is because they are part and parcel of the same problem. Your proposition that “oil can be “subsidized” by other, higher return energy sources for a while ” would be great if there were any other higher return energy sources but there just aren’t any. EROEI is being subsidized, by other peoples money. This is most evident looking at the debt balances of the world’s three largest oil producers. Since oil drop below $100/bl in August 2014, they have been subsidizing the EROEI of oil with lots of other peoples money, not from oil production, but with massive amounts of debt. This is true for all of the oil producing nations, they can’t make money on oil so they are spending their reserves. When the reserves run low they, too, will be borrowing as much as they can. Think Venezuela (see: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-24/venezuela-wins-relief-from-bondholders-as-39-accept-pdvsa-swap}

Dutchman, you really don’t get it. “cars and commuting” are simply not going to be one of the choices in the near future.

For a current (Feb 2017), fairly concise and complete analysis of the worlds energy dilemma I invite you to read “The End of the Oilocene” https://damnthematrix.wordpress.com/tag/louis-arnoux/

I don’t agree with Kunstler’s politics but when he says “We’re going there whether we like it or not. But we can make the journey to it easier or harsher depending on how much we drag our heels getting on with the job.”

He’s right.

michael smith
michael smith
  SteveW
February 21, 2017 1:19 am

SteveW wrote: Your proposition that “oil can be “subsidized” by other, higher return energy sources for a while ” would be great if there were any other higher return energy sources but there just aren’t any. >>>

Uranium and coal are each higher EROEI than domestic oil these days. (Obviously, the net energy from oil varies with the source; e.g., Persian Gulf oil has a much higher return than US oil, but we in the US minimize our imports from that region). I seem to recall that deepwater is low, tar sands (Alberta) is low, fracking is abysmally low. If the net energy on our total energy mix were already as low as from our domestic oil production, things would be a lot worse.

And, yes, I realize that global U235 and even coal production will go over the peak much sooner than most people realize, to say nothing of the problems with North American natural gas, the far-below-cost pricing of which is providing a very misleading market signal. Even when prices return to a profitable (high) level, I don’t know for how long the industry can continue to raise production from those tiny, fast-depleting shale deposits. The impending crisis in non-oil fuels is a problem that has, unfortunately, received far less attention than peak oil. But for now, the EROEI of these other fuels is keeping the EROEI of the total energy mix at a level that lets us muddle through for a while.

While we are on the subject, copper, the element of choice for large scale electrical transmission, appears to be peaking about now, and silver, vital for high quality PV cells and computer electronics, has been reported by a very mainstream source to have already peaked.

Back to the impacts of declining oil, Venezuela is a poor example. Their crisis is clearly the result of 15 years of mismanagement, diverting so much of their oil profits to subsidizing poor voters that there was nothing left to maintain the industry’s production. Much of the middle class fled the country years ago, and anyone who can still afford to start or expand a business is afraid to do so. They don’t trust the government not to loot them.

Further, it remains very debatable how much of the decline in savings in the US can be blamed on energy problems. After all, we have had excessive consumer debt many times when energy was abundant and cheap. Indeed, every recession where we have data was preceded by a higher than usual rise in household debt, including the Great Depression, so I think it is hasty to assume the current high level of household debt is necessarily or primarily the result of falling EROEI of oil. I would think it has more to do with the abnormally low cost of borrowing since 2008, thanks to the Fed’s ZIRP driving borrowing costs across the board below the level that would be set by an unmanipulated market. People buy more of anything that is abnormally cheap, including the use of other people’s money. That remains true regardless of the energy situation.

I am far from being a Pollyanna, but I figured out years ago that, while many crises are foreseeable, those who foresee them very often overestimate how soon they will arrive. This, in turn, leads to complacency among those who tend to extrapolate indefinitely the future from the recent past. Bursts of explosive change like interspersed among long stretches of slow change. In short, timing is hard.

ADDENDUM: From the link you provided
(https://damnthematrix.wordpress.com/tag/louis-arnoux/), four oil producers from a list of eleven need a higher oil price than Venezuela to balance their budgets, but with the possible exception of war-torn Libya (blame NATO), all are far better off than Venezuela right now. Even Libya might be a better place to live right now! It has recently become fashionable to complain about inequality rather than poverty, but excessive redistribution does a lot more harm than inequality. Poor countries find this out quickly, rich countries get away with it longer.

SteveW
SteveW
  michael smith
February 21, 2017 12:10 pm

While a well considered response, I take issue with the assertion that “Uranium and coal are each higher EROEI than domestic oil these days.” Many argue that nuclear is already negative when a complete calculation is done and that according to Mason Inman (Scientifi cAmerican.com/apr2013/eroi) who “estimated the EROI of [nuclear power] to be 5. (Lenzen, “Life cycle energy and greenhouse gas emissions of nuclear energy: A review,”Energy Conversion and Management (2008)). As for coal “Most studies on the EROI of coal report the value at the “minemouth,” for all the energy content in the coal.” (Mason Inman , see above)

Be all that as it may, dueling experts doesn’t really further the conversation. So, more importantly, by “subsidized” I am assuming that that included, at least in part, substitute for oil. As fossil fuels supports over 90% of all transportation (http://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/?page=us_energy_transportation) a substitute is hyper critical. With nuclear that can only realistically mean electric cars but if you add the energy costs of building the electric cars and their batteries the EROEI rapidly declines well below oil. As for coal, this would require returning to steam locomotives, Stanley Steamers and steam shovels. I can’t imagine what that would do to EROEI calculations. However, this route may be our only pragmatic solution but I just don’t see how it could be accomplished unless we were to start right now using oil energy. It ain’t going to happen.

Declining EROEI and debt are not causally related but symptoms of the same problem which I see as rapidly increasing complexity and declining income to the non-elite workers. As for Venezuela, it was an example of not how the price of oil affects companies and countries, but what they both do when they can’t make any money, (it is all bad management in my mind), they borrow because they can instead of changing the operating paradigm as they should.

I am in complete agreement with your comments on crises that ” those who foresee them very often overestimate how soon they will arrive”. However, I am deeply disturbed by the total lack of recognition or discussion of this impending problem in any of the greater public forums or media. Perhaps Huck Finn is right, that is all part of TPTB Elite’s master plan to cull the herd and get the world’s population back to sustainable levels. My question then would be; Who is going to do all the work? And, if the plan is robots, what are they going to run on?