How Leonardo DiCaprio Can Persuade Me on Climate Change

Guest Post by Scott Adams

You probably know that actor Leonardo DiCaprio is a climate activist, and he is trying to persuade the world that climate change is both real and serious. Someone asked me on Twitter what it would take for DiCaprio (for example) to persuade a person like me.

I’ll take a swing at that.

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For starters, you must separate the questions of real and serious. The real part refers to the climate models. The serious part refers to economic models. Those are different topics.

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If you want to convince me that climate change is real, the best approach is to abandon the current method that packages climate models in a fashion that is identical to well-known scams. (Or hoaxes, if you prefer.)

Let me say this doubly-clear. When I say climate models are packaged in a fashion that is identical to known scams, I am not saying they are scams. I’m saying they are packaged to look exactly like scams. There is no hope for credibility with that communication plan.

To make my point visual, imagine walking into your kitchen and finding an intruder wearing a ski mask and holding a gun. You assume this person is not your friendly neighbor because he is packaged exactly like an armed burglar. If you shoot that intruder, and it turns out to be your neighbor playing a prank, you probably won’t go to jail because it isn’t your fault. The problem was that your neighbor packaged himself to look exactly like an armed burglar.

Climate scientists tell us that there are hundreds of climate models, all somewhat different. I assume that most of them do a good job predicting the past (hindcasting) because otherwise they would not be models at all. Hindcasting is one minimum requirement for being a model in this field, I would assume.

Then science ignores the models that are too far off from observed temperatures as we proceed into the future and check the predictions against reality. Sometimes scientists also “tune” the models to hindcast better, meaning tweaking assumptions. As a non-scientists, I can’t judge whether or not the tuning and tweaking are valid from a scientific perspective. But I can judge that this pattern is identical to known scams. I described the known scams in this post.

And to my skeptical mind, it sounds fishy that there are dozens or more different climate models that are getting tuned to match observations. That doesn’t sound credible, even if it is logically and scientifically sound. I am not qualified to judge the logic or science. But I am left wondering why it has to sound exactly like a hoax if it isn’t one. Was there not a credible-sounding way to make the case?

Personally, I would find it compelling if science settled on one climate model (not dozens) and reported that it was accurate (enough), based on temperature observations, for the next five years. If they pull that off, they have my attention. But they will never convince me with multiple models. That just isn’t possible.

If climate scientists want their climate predictions to be believed, they need to vote on the best model, and stick with it for a few years. If they can’t do that, all I will see is lots of blind squirrels in a field of nuts. Some squirrels will accidentally find some nuts. But it won’t look like science to me because of the way it is packaged.

I do realize that picking one model as the “best” is not something science can do with comfort. It would feel dishonest, I assume, since they don’t know which one will perform best. But if science wants to be persuasive, they need to pick one model. And it needs to be accurate(ish) for the next five years. Nothing else would be persuasive to me.

On the second point, about how serious the alleged problem of climate change is, we have to rely not on scientists but on economists. And economists have zero credibility for long-term forecasts of that type. So the serious part is beyond the reach of persuasion. You can’t get there from here because economic models are no more credible than astrology.

By the way, my educational background is in economics and business. And for years, my corporate jobs involved making complex financial projections about budgets. In other words, I was perpetuating financial fraud within the company, by order of my boss. He told me to pretend my financial projections were real, and I did. But they were not real. My predictions were in line with whatever my boss told me they would be. I “tuned” my assumptions until I got my boss’s answer.

When I tell you it would be hard to convince me that a stranger’s economic model is credible, keep my experience in mind. I’ve seen lots of economic models. I’ve built economic models. In my experience, they are nothing but guesses, bias, and outright fraud.

The only way to convince me that climate change is bad for the economy is to wait until it starts breaking things. If I see it, and scientists agree I am seeing it, I might believe it. But long-term economic predictions can’t get me there.

I remind you that my topic is about persuasion, not the underlying truth of climate change. I don’t have access to the underlying truth because I am not a scientist working in the field. My information comes from strangers that tell me their interpretation of what the scientists are saying. I am as far from science as you can get.

The people who are hallucinating the hardest on this topic are the non-scientists who believe they have done a deep dive into the scientific papers and the climate models and arrived at a rational conclusion. The illusion here is that getting information from other humans is the same as “science.”

Another group of hallucinators believe that they can determine the scientific truth of climate change by counting the number of scientists on each side. But that ignores the fact that science often has the majority on the wrong side. That happens every time a new idea is starting to replace an old one. Darwin did not agree with the consensus when he introduced evolution. Einstein’s ideas were slow to catch on, etc.

When the majority of scientists are on one side, what matters most is the flow rate from one side to the other, not the raw numbers. I need to know which direction the scientists are moving. Are more climate scientists moving toward climate skepticism or away from it? Give me that data and I’ll have something useful. But counting the number on each side during one slice of time is meaningless for persuasion.

My point is that Leonardo DiCaprio would have a tough time persuading me that climate science is both real and serious. But it isn’t his fault, because science has packaged climate science to look like a hoax, and sent him out to sell it. I respect and admire DiCaprio for his heart on this matter, and his effort on behalf of the planet. But science has failed him by giving him hoax-looking sales collateral.

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KaD
KaD
March 18, 2017 1:21 pm

I’ll consider his view when he stops jaunting around on his carbon spewing private jet.

kokoda - the most deplorable
kokoda - the most deplorable
March 18, 2017 1:28 pm

Can’t resist – used this comment previously……………

Hillary intends to install a War Room in the White House to fight Global Warming:

I can just see all those real-time monitors on the wall now. Here’s what it will be like the first day of operation:

Hillary: “I don’t get it, nothing seems to be changing on any of these screens!”
Technician: “Um, madam president, climate change doesn’t happen instantly.”
Hillary: “What are you talking about!? Al Gore and Bill McKibben both told me that that can see it happening right NOW!”
Technician: “Er, madam president, the standard baseline for measuring climate is 30 years. Changes don’t happen instantly. Weather changes on the short term, not climate.”
Hillary: ” Don’t give me that crap! The best scientific minds, Mike Mann and James Hansen, and Al Gore all told me I could see it happening! My friend, Senator Debbie Stabenow, says she can feel it when she’s flying! Your systems just aren’t working!”
Technician: “Madam president, as you ordered, we have all the climate change metrics on display, GISS, HadCRUT, BEST, NOAA, NSIDC, we have all the IPCC models on display, including RCP 8.5, plus Al Gore’s TRIANA satellite, looking straight at Earth and giving a live feed.These all monitor the climate of Earth.”
Hillary: “Well if your fancy named systems are so good, why can’t I see the climate changing NOW!? Gore told me I could watch it happening from space! All this money, and for what? I can’t see anything happening!”
Technician: “Madam president, as I tried to explain earlier, climate change is slow, on periods of 30 years, and….”
Hillary: “DON’T YOU LECTURE ME ABOUT WHAT I ALREADY KNOW!!!! Al Gore says I will be able to see it! Bill McKibben says I will be able to see it. Even that little weasel Joe Romm says I’ll be able to see it! Do you think you are smarter than these people!?”
Technician: [long pause] “um, …”
Hillary: “I’ve watched real time feeds all over the planet! I’ve watched people being taken out in hellholes you can’t even imagine! And you can’t do this simple thing?”
Technician: [longer pause] “well, as I …”
Hillary: “NEVER MIND! [dials cell phone] Podesta? I need my own server again! These idiots setup all these screens to show climate change and nothing is happening! What!? No I don’t care about timelines! Make it happen!!!!”
Hillary: [mumbles to herself] “I’m surrounded by idiots…”

GoldHermit
GoldHermit
March 18, 2017 1:31 pm

If he is so convinced, why does he fly around in private planes? Does he own a home bigger than what he needs? Does he own multiple homes? What is he really doing to fight climate change? I consider him one of the MANY hypocrites.

I also question his true educational level and the ability to really understand. He is just a poster child for the hypocritical elite, in my opinion.

Miles Long
Miles Long
  GoldHermit
March 18, 2017 3:22 pm

The only thing elite about this putz is in his own mind. Big bank accounts dont make one elite… or smart… or credible.

Gammer
Gammer
March 18, 2017 1:37 pm

Yes, many science models to cover pretty much any scenario means the science is certainly not settled. They are throwing out everything so that they have something that matches what you want in 5-10 years, then they throw out all the wrong ones and say they were right.
Funny thing this settled science.

The number of scientists on each side, means that many of them don’t really know they are just ‘yes’ men. Following blindly a couple of leaders who bang the gong louder or get more money. So it is really simple to see why one team is leading over another, follow the money.

Gammer
Gammer
March 18, 2017 1:40 pm

Leo in this case really does not know squat like most of Hollywood they repeat lines written for them with multiple takes required to get it right. They probably think this makes them smart, but reality shows otherwise.

Rojam
Rojam
March 18, 2017 2:09 pm

How can Leo persuade me on climate change? Easy. With proof! I think Leo would be better served to concentrate his efforts on changing the morality “climate” in Hollywood.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
March 18, 2017 2:14 pm

Well part of Climate Change is a hoax in the form of a political solution. Carbon tax credits.

Rob
Rob
March 18, 2017 2:45 pm

Now ladies, unbunch those undies and sit down for a minute. First off, climate change is real. We all know it. The climate changes all the time. Now it’s warm but a while ago it was cold. Before that it was warm…you know, climate change. So give it up. Climate change is real.

But that doesn’t mean that man induced climate change is real. That is a different thing altogether. And poor old Dilbert is just not going to ever understand the science behind climate change because there is no science behind climate change. All of the people who are screaming about having us all drive around in Prius’s are of two types. One type knows why this is a thing. The other type thinks it’s a thing because the first type told them so. Leo is in the second group. The first group is not interested in eliminating human induced climate change. They know it is a hoax. The first group is simply trying to ease the herds of car driving troglodytes into the next age, the post oil age. If they don’t do this then you all will loose your collective shit when the pumps run dry. And nobody wants that.

They know the pumps will run dry. They know they don’t need you to drive. They know you will go bat shit crazy when they tell you that you can’t have any more. So they give up on you and start with your kids telling them that (Jedi mind trick) “you don’t want to drive a car.” And what do you know. They don’t want to drive a car. And they don’t want to buy gas. And they don’t want to use any more electricity than they can get from a solar cell. And they don’t want a big house or a job or anything that you had. And then the sky people can drive their SUVs up into their 1000 mile ranches and have your kids til the fields for them and all will be as it should.

All that being said, I surely do think that Scott most surely knows that economics is even worse pseudo science than climate change models. Economists, and in particular those with Nobel Prizes in Economics, are lying sacks of shit. It’s as simple as that. And Scott nailed that one.

Capn Mike
Capn Mike
  Rob
March 18, 2017 6:58 pm

Holy Crap!! You nailed it. What a great summation. Thanks, Rob.

musket
musket
March 18, 2017 2:45 pm

Follow the money thru who is on a budget line and who is self funding his or her own research….

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
March 18, 2017 3:03 pm

Why the fuck should I consider the opinions on scientific topics from a fucking actor? Wtf? I really did like Titanic though; you got to see Kate Winslet nude and Leonardo DiCaprio died.

javelin
javelin
  Zarathustra
March 18, 2017 9:03 pm

Sort of a cosmic irony isn’t it?
DiCaprio’s most famous role is in a movie in which he dies from a giant, freaking chunk of ice slamming into the ship he’s on. Now he travels the world ( in private jets and limos) decrying the ( alleged) melting away of giant, freaking chunks of ice…..I think I’m getting a mixed message here.

Mesomorph
Mesomorph
March 18, 2017 3:04 pm

Leo has only persuaded me that he is either full of shit or stupid. Maybe both.
We are told by the climate shills that rising sea levels are the scariest part of a warming planet. It seems odd that any believers would invest in small islands in Belize.
http://www.privateislandsmag.com/2008/09/leonardo-dicaprio-blackadore-cay-belize/

I found it on Google Earth and the highest point I could locate was only 10 feet!

javelin
javelin
  Mesomorph
March 18, 2017 9:20 pm

I have done an odd experiment a few times to make sure ( my wife just rolls her eyes when she sees me setting up some inexact experiment as I bustle around like a man who has discovered anti-gravity)
Anyhow, I’ve taken chunks of ice and placed them all in a lidless cooler ( the other time I used a large mixing bowl)–I then poured in cold water until the water level was at the very brim, with the ice floating above the water being a couple inches even above the top edge of the cooler/bowl.
A few hours later as the ice had melted, the level of the water had actually LOWERED away from the rim.
My best guess is that the expanded ice takes up more space in the water with the air trapped in it. Massive icebergs are supposedly 90%+ UNDERNEATH the water line, this would mean that meling ice should lower sea levels…did I miss something? Maybe the runoff from Greenland into the Sea perhaps?

Rdawg
Rdawg
  javelin
March 18, 2017 11:14 pm

Water being a bit of an oddball in that it expands when it solidifies. It’s why it floats in liquid water, of course.

Just about everything else contracts upon solidification.

AC
AC
March 18, 2017 3:44 pm

Sometimes scientists also “tune” the models to hindcast better, meaning tweaking assumptions.

Some of them are ‘hindcasting’ the actual historical data. That is, falsifying the historical data to conform with their ‘model.’ They seem oblivious to the fact that the unaltered historical data is available from other sources, and that people will actually check.

They are rewriting history to conform with their opinion. I presume they are big fans of the works of George Orwell, perhaps for several reasons.

TPC
TPC
March 18, 2017 4:23 pm

Different rules for thee, and me.

At the center of all leftist ideology stands a towering hypocrisy.

Rob
Rob
March 18, 2017 4:59 pm

Yeah TPC. I agree but would amend your statement to:

At the center of all ideology stands a towering hypocrisy.

TPC
TPC
  Rob
March 18, 2017 5:59 pm

Wrong. An ideology bent on leaving other people alone is by its very nature self-supporting. I don’t seek to control others, I seek to keep from being controlled.

starfcker
starfcker
March 18, 2017 5:08 pm

I’m amped up and ready to go all in fighting climate change. Just separate it from taxing me.

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
March 18, 2017 5:48 pm

I have a difficult time being lectured on science by a guy who never finished high school and has only a GED hanging on his wall. That’s Leonardo DiCaprio.

Scott Adams, meanwhile, has a BS in Economics and an MBA from Berkeley.

I think I’ll go with Scott Adams analysis rather than the actor’s.

i forget
i forget
  Trapped in Portlandia
March 18, 2017 7:25 pm

Portlandia? Is that in academia somewhere? (If i could do over I’d skip highschool, as well as college. Total waste of my time\money.)

Anyway, trouble with the curve…fitting…should mean ya’ don’t make the team. Instead, too often, it means ya’ make the scam. Wow, look at that beautiful chart! buy here, sell there – it’s a linear life, ya’ll! 20:20 hindcurvesighting makes for very good brochures & other pitches. good for pitchmen, too.

Global warming, uni education, most part same scoliosis.

Ottomatik
Ottomatik
March 18, 2017 9:42 pm

Who is going to step up and tackle Fukushima?
Still waiting for all of these concerned scientist….

Anon
Anon
March 19, 2017 10:32 am

Solution to Globull warming, and Fukishima – Thorium reactors. Technology of the 60’s in Oak Ridge. Oh, that’s right, we have to MAKE WAR, not energy. So instead of using a design that has the best of nuclear fission without the down side of Fukishima, we instead use a design that needs active constant containment in order to keep from melting down, so we can justify the existence of enriched Plutonium instead of using Coal and extracting Thorium.
If the gubermint and Leo care SO much about Globull warming, what say he takes his 1.5 Million that he spent on his stupid Eco-Island, and instead, get all of his idiot savant actors together, hire some nuclear scientists, find the old documents for the Oak Ridge reactors, and get to work….???? Part of the solution, not part of the problem eh? That would give him credibility in my book. I am waiting Leo?