by Uncola via TheBurningPlatform.com
There is a group of us who meet on Saturday mornings for breakfast. We are four white men; college educated professionals who know each other through a shared involvement and patronage of a community organization. Our group is comprised of one in their mid-thirties, two in their forties and me as the sole quinquagenarian of the group.
During our weekend morning meal encounters, I will usually try to steer clear from political conversations. However, more often than not, it seems our discussions do drift into politics. The thirty-something and one of the fortyish gentlemen identify as liberal and the other quadragenarian claims to be a Republican, yet he seemed to favor Hillary Clinton in the last election. All of them hate Donald Trump, so, this leaves me as the lone racist, fear-motivated, close-minded, privileged, conspiracy-oriented, and deplorably conservative Caucasian at our table.
The following is a condensed summary of my recollection of our conversation from this previous Saturday and it is predominately paraphrased. As a final qualifier, and as a matter of course, I will admit the ensuing review is recapitulated through the lens of my personal perspective. This means, although my breakfast companions would likely reject my forthcoming conclusion(s) below, at the same time, I believe they would agree that the subsequent dialogue is narrated accurately, and with the topics arranged (for the most part) in the correct consecutive order of our actual conversation.
Breakfast Was Served
Just as were about three-quarters finished with our morning meal, one of my friends commented how it has been taking him quite a while to accept what is happening in national politics.
The others at the table agreed most enthusiastically.
Then, one of my buddies looked at me and said something to the effect of: “Better watch it, Mr. Paranoid might start talking about the Illuminati.
To which I promptly responded: “I know! Lately, I’ve been studying Spirit Cooking with John Podesta. “
At this, the blank stares of my breakfast buddies soon gave way to:
“Trump is a liar! Everything he says is a lie!”
When I asked for specific examples, they replied: “Everything!”
“Did he lie about wiretapping?” I queried.
“Yes! But if even if he didn’t, that only means there must have been good reason!” they said.
I briefly mentioned the two FISA requests that were reported to have been made by the Obama administration in 2016, and that Trump said we will see more in two weeks.
“Two weeks,” one of my friends scoffed before again commenting on Trump’s affiliation with the Russians.
At this, I brought up the WikiLeaks Vault 7 revelations, the program entitled UMBRAGE whereby American intelligence agencies had the ability to counterfeit internet hacks from other countries and how the Wikileaks dump occurred on Wednesday, March 8, 2017. By the next day, there was ZERO Russian election hacking stories in any of the mainstream media. Nada.
More blank stares before one of them began railing how the media worked against Hillary Clinton during the election.
I responded by saying the media gave her a break considering how her campaign colluded with the DNC, and Donna Brazile, to hack the election away from Bernie Sanders. Next, I asked them if they saw how the Washington Post spun their headlines earlier in the week on the topic of immigration:
Immigrants are now canceling their food stamps for fear that Trump will deport them
To
Immigrants are going hungry so Trump won’t deport them
An American Omelet with Extra Sausage
At this, the older of the self-identified liberals at the table said something to the effect of it being another example of white males starving the brown people.
I responded with some gentle sarcasm, by saying that my friend’s comment seemed “racist”. This, in turn, caused the more “conservative” of my three friends to begin a friendly interrogation of me regarding my “white privilege”.
He asked if I realized that I was privileged. I responded that I was proud of my heritage; that my great-grandfather fought in the Civil War, but yes, I am aware how I may have, indeed, inherited some economic and social benefits not received by others.
To which my “conservative” friend responded in a very self-satisfied manner; and, with a Cheshire Cat smile, he said:
“There! See?”
I then commented how I was more concerned regarding the waves of Russophobia and Naziphobia that appeared to be taking over the entire country of late.
They replied in unison: “For good reason!”
To which I asked them: “Just like Islamophobia, then?”
Ah, ha!
At this this, they asked me: “What do you have against Islam?”
“It is a peaceful religion!” they exclaimed.
I replied by saying it is, actually, more of a “political system”.
Then, one of them asked me: “What are you afraid of?”
I replied something similar to: “American women being raped. Because rape is a part of Islamic culture”.
To which they responded how “white men rape girls constantly, on college campuses, everywhere.”
In hindsight, I would have liked to ask them: “If that is the case, then why would you want to immigrate more rapists and add to the problem?” But, unfortunately, I didn’t think of it until later.
But I DID ask them if they believed diversity brought unity.
After telling me how there are more white terrorists in America than Islamic jihadists and that Muslim extremists really aren’t true followers of Islam, I reminded them the Islamic Fundamentalists would defiantly disagree that they don’t represent true Islam.
I, furthermore, advised them to look towards Europe and Dearborndahar, Michiganistan, and said:
“Just like in the Middle East, there seems to be an awful lot of Islamic privilege wherever the Arabic peoples go.”
At this, my pals brought up the Germans and the Irish.
“They assimilated,” I replied.
In response, I was told: “No, they did not. They still maintained their identity.”
So, I asked them: “When was the last time you called and the message menu asked you to push # 8 for German?”
“That’s not the point,” they said.
“In any case,” I replied. “I am OK with LEGAL immigration.”
They then informed me how we could NEVER completely stop illegal immigration and that “twenty-foot walls” simply yield “twenty-two-foot ladders”.
“But,” I contended, “We are a nation of borders. Borders are, in fact, constitutional.”
When they agreed, I added; “This is why the liberal judges who have opposed Trump’s executive orders on immigration, are wrong.”
At this, my friends informed me that I was wrong because they believed Trump’s Islamic ban was unconstitutional.
I said it might have been unconstitutional if ALL Muslims were included in the ban, but they weren’t; only those travelers from a few countries where the populations are overtly hostile to America.
They seemed to scoff at this and I can’t recall exactly how they responded other than with contempt. I then said something to the effect of:
“Well, we will find out soon because it appears Trump’s second executive order will go to the Supreme Court.”
Seriously Scrambled Eggs & Cold Coffee
It was at this point when one of my friends commented regarding the hypocrisy of Republicans who complained about Obama’s executive orders yet now supported Trump’s executive actions.
I responded: “We sat on our hands and bit our fists for eight years under Obama, but you didn’t see conservatives rioting in the streets.”
To which they all said in unison: “Bullshit!”
I suspected they might have meant the Tea Party, but before I could ask for specific examples, the conversation quickly turned towards how the Republicans unconstitutionally blocked Obama’s Supreme Court nominee; that one of the liberals at our table did a “happy dance” when Antonin Scalia died, and how, in general, the Republican Party sucks.
I believe this was when one of my liberal friends began to explain how Barack Obama was the greatest president in American history, but he was incessantly vilified because of his race. My friend also added something similar to as follows:
“If Obama was white he would be on Mount Rushmore and if Trump was black, he would be viewed as the devil.”
I informed him that I have “quite the opposite view”, and said:
“There is no way such a politically unexperienced community organizer from Chicago, and freshman senator, who was once ranked as the most liberal in the U.S. Senate, would have EVER been elected if he was white.”
I continued: “Obama also graduated from Columbia University which was the academic home of Cloward and Piven, and during the eight years of his administration, the national debt near doubled and food stamp usage increased over thirty percent.”
At this, one of my breakfast buddies transitioned into how government is necessary to build highways and bankroll our military; to which I agreed. But I also pointed out that, today, however, the U.S. government has grown out of control regarding entitlements.
One of my friends then called “bullshit” in that conservatives never seem to complain regarding subsidies for big oil, et cetera.
I then, also, agreed and added “agriculture” before saying: “At least we agree that government shouldn’t subsidize business. Good points.”
More Waffles, More Syrup
Soon, my “conservative” friend lobbed another Illuminati jab my way and asked me if the Fed’s raising interest rates was “part of the plan”.
I claimed it was most likely “controlled demolition” of our economy by the global elite in order to undermine Trump and questioned my friends as to why the rates were not increased under Obama.
“Why now?”, I inquired of them.
They all seemed to agree that the economy is doing better today and this is why Janet Yellen is raising rates.
“The economy is doing better?” I asked them. “It would seem JC Penny might beg to differ”.
To which my “conservative” friend replied: “Gordman’s too”.
When I responded by saying there was a retail landslide afoot, they claimed the closing of these retail outlets are occurring because of Amazon, and they LOVE Amazon.
I said I liked Amazon too. It’s convenient. And, “As I mentioned before, I do, occasionally, read Jeff Bezos’ blog, The Washington Post.”
Soon after that, a series of Neoconic grievances were aired regarding George W. Bush, weapons of mass destruction, never ending middle-east wars, and 911.
I admitted that, at the time, the media supported the build-up to the war in Iraq and, like a fool, I bought into it. “But today,” I continued, “It seems the same mainstream media wants war with Russia.”
This delivered a cascade of criticism of Trump’s China Policy and his ill-conceived phone call, as President-Elect, to the president of Taiwan. One of my breakfast companions then expressed real fear that Trump might soon stumble his way into the next world war.
I made a comment that it was the globalists who desired war, but I don’t believe my pals heard me. I wanted to discuss national sovereignty because it seemed my friends viewed placing “America first” was a foreign policy disaster and a path to destruction.
An Omelet Unfinished
Somehow, though, we got back to the topic of race and immigration. I asked them what is wrong with “tribalism”, or choosing to associate with those who are similar and celebrating our own culture, to wit, “Norman Rockwell’s America”.
One of the men said they lived in Los Angeles and the cultures there were, indeed, separated as such.
I believe it was around this point when the “conservative” forty-something gentleman excused himself from the group because he had to be somewhere else.
After saying our “goodbyes”, the remaining two other men and I continued our exchange.
I next relayed an experience about one of my college professors who was an Afro-American PhD, who taught a class, and assigned books, to show people how to escape the mental chains of race and poverty; and when the faculty tried to remove his class from the curriculum, I wrote a scathing editorial in the college newspaper in defense of this professor and his class. In my piece, I excoriated both the university faculty and administration and challenged them to read each of the seven books assigned in the professor’s course. In return, my professor offered me a post-graduate position in his field of study that I had to decline, due to prior, post-graduate, commitments.
“In any case”, I said to my friends, “I am not a racist, but, my point is that conservatives constantly get labeled as such, even though it is those on the political left who persistently politicize race and engage in identity politics.”
“I didn’t see my professor’s color,” I pointed out. “I only saw the man.”
Then, I asked my friend:
“Are you racist against Clarence Thomas?”
“NO,” he replied, “I just hate everything he stands for.”
To which I said: “So…., it IS just politics then. Why not leave out race?”
My other friend then mentioned something about the economically prosperous Antebellum North that soon freed the slaves and I mentioned how the Klu Klux Klan was an outgrowth of the Southern Democratic Party.
“Why not just let people thrive, regardless of race, as the U.S. Constitution allows?” I asked my friends.
Then, I added something to the effect of: “Social Justice shouldn’t be legislated.”
At this, one of my liberal breakfast companions exclaimed: “If that were true, then civil rights would have never happened because white men are fundamentally against it.”
I argued right back: “The civil rights movement was started by white men in Europe: the English politician William Wilberforce and John Newton, who was a former slave ship captain and wrote the Christian hymn Amazing Grace.”
“And, this is another problem with the political left,” I continued. “That they have high-jacked the civil rights movement in America when, in fact, it was started in the churches of Montgomery, Alabama.”
“The individual is the smallest minority,” I said. “But, with the Collectivist Left, there is no responsibility, or accountability, as individuals.” Then, I quoted the author Victor Frankl’s contention that “the Statue of Liberty on the East Coast” should be balanced by a “Statue of Responsibility on the West Coast”.
“But it’s not only that individual accountability is never requested by the left,” I added. “It is forcibly removed as well. What right does the state have to point a gun at me in order to interfere with my private relations with my doctor?”
Poached Eggs to Go
With this, we next transitioned into Obamacare and my friends assured me that people CAN keep their doctor and that private insurance WAS a mess way before Obama came along.
“That’s just it.” I said: “The Democrats create problems by preventing insurance companies from selling across state lines and, then, when it results in diminished competition, increased complications, and higher premiums, the Democrats moved to, via strict party-line voting, nationalize healthcare.“
“Now they expect Republicans to reach across the aisle?” I asked. “Why not allow free-market competition to lower premiums?”
One of my friends then described his personal nightmares with private insurance, the greed of pharmaceutical companies, etc.
I then asked them if they favored a single-payer system and they, most emphatically, said “yes”. “Most definitely.”
At that, I further commented on how it seemed Obamacare was set up to fail in order to usher in a single-payer system. One of the men said, if that was the case, then, it was a “brilliant strategy”. He, furthermore, went on to claim how we are one of the last modern countries to implement a single-payer system and even cited the U.S. Postal service as a model of efficiency because a letter can be delivered for forty-nine cents via the magnificence of governmental, administrative competence.
It was here, where the three of us decided to end our discussion and move on with our respective Saturday schedules.
Because of this, I didn’t bring up the fact that the Post Office had lost $60 Billion over the last 10 years and I also was unable to ask my friends what would happen when the single-payer healthcare system ran out of other people’s money, as do all Socialist utopian experiments.
Conclusion: Check Please. I Got It.
Considering our Saturday breakfast discussion, in retrospect, I have come to understand the paradoxical reality which underlies the collective ideology of my friends.
As we sat there in the very clean diner, in the heart of a modern American city and before we left in the technological marvels which we call automobiles, my friends demonstrated their complete lack of appreciation regarding the miraculous benefits of Capitalism and a fundamental lack of gratitude for Adam Smith’s “Invisible Hand”.
Throughout our conversation, I kept commenting how divided are the ideological factions of our country today. But, I never mentioned how this could be by design on behalf of the globalists.
After all, a divided kingdom cannot stand and, to the globalists in power (as well as those who support them), the United States Constitution stands in the way of global hegemony, world harmony, and peace.
Oh, the irony.
In truth, my friends long for a new nation; a completely different America than was founded.
It seems they are the end result of the Frankfort School, the Fabian Socialists and the modern American educational system that, in the last four decades, has abandoned the curriculum which taught United States citizens the fundamentals of what made America unique over the past two centuries.
It would have been interesting to present to my friends a hypothetical study of two Americas, separated by both ideals and geography: The first, a conservative constitutional republic, and the second, a liberal, collectivist Shangri-La. I wonder if that comparison was put forth to my friends what they propose would happen?
Maybe next time I will find out because, like our Saturday “breakfast club” conversations, history repeats.
My dear friends fail to see government as a threat, in spite of leftist regimes killing more people throughout world history than any capitalistic, right-wing ideology.
Yet, it is they who view their ideas as modern, tolerant, and progressive and me, as an old-fashioned conservative clinging to dying traditions that are no longer viable.
They don’t seem to realize how their utopian dreams have been tried before in history; like the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, the People’s Republic of China under Mao Tse-tung, Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge and, most recently, North Korea under Kim Jong-un.
Neither is any consideration given by my friends, for modern nations including Venezuela, which has imploded under the failed ideology of Socialism; or the fact that America is traveling down the same track to hell and upon the identical twin rails of governmental debt and corruption.
I am reminded of the story behind a famous quote made by Benjamin Franklin:
The deliberations of the Constitutional Convention of 1787 were held in strict secrecy. Consequently, anxious citizens gathered outside Independence Hall when the proceedings ended in order to learn what had been produced behind closed doors. The answer was provided immediately.
A Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, “Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?”
With no hesitation whatsoever, Franklin responded, “A republic, if you can keep it.”
Although it appears President Donald Trump, during his first two months of his administration, is making a valiant effort; the fact remains that my breakfast companions, and a majority of Americans, do not wish to make America great again. Instead, they hope to remake her in another image.
The American Experiment was truly amazing while it lasted. It ushered in more prosperity; more freedom and its veritable fountainhead of blessings have benefited the world more than any other nation on earth.
However, the revolutions of history are, once again, turning full circle. History does repeat.
We had a republic. We couldn’t keep it.
Good read Uncola. You’re a much more patient man than I am. However slim, there’s still hope for the programmed.
Just saw this one on Ol’ Remus this morning.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/07/ten_reasons_i_am_no_longer_a_leftist.html
This one from a few months ago…
https://darwinianreactionary.wordpress.com/2016/09/29/dear-progressives-my-path-from-left-to-right/
@ Miles, I am glad you posted those links. I found them interesting.
I have much less patience these days. Actually none at all!
Governments everywhere now treat privacy protections as nothing more then a speed bump in collection of personal information. Brazile leaks questions to CNN, Wasserman Schulz throws the nomination and everyone in cahoots with MSM. The media acting as propaganda arm of DNC. Those things have all been proven and real. And yet the biggest threat to democracy are the rumors and speculation that somehow the Russians influenced election. In the midst of all this Wikileaks releases a portion Vault 7 and nary a peep from the proles. After all this what props up water coolers are people complaining about the imminent threat to national security of women letting a man with money grab them by the pussy.
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Then these two men appear before a committee to deflect about why they need to be able to spy on everyone. Protecting us while shredding the Bill of Rights.
And yet after all this people are still convinced that Trump is the problem!
Greetings,
Your friends would 100% hate me. Apart from being a walking dictionary, I served as an Officer in the US Army, worked as a hired mercenary for the State Department & taught history and government in innercity schools. I would have torn into your friends so hard that they would have left breakfast weeping and with nothing but thoughts of how they were going to immediately kill themselves.
I have nothing but scorn and contempt for losers like that and I do not mind sharing it with them. Screw them. Let them go hang out with the other cucks.
Great article once again uncola. reading your articles takes me back to reading Kevin Phillips best book American Theocracy. That book is 500 pages of pure red pill that explicitly explained back in 2005 why the financialization of the economy along with the misadventures in the Middle East were gonna lead us to a stock market disaster. Kevin Phillips diagnosed the great recession before it happened. My two good friend were in grad school. They were majoring in real estate finance and international finance. I tried to explain to them with facts why we are due for an recession at that time. Unfortunately their indroctination did not let them see how that could be, and worse off all, their professors did not see the 08 crash coming either. Almost 10 years later, the same situation continues happening in discussions all across the nation. This crack up boom, will be massive and those ❄ will miss it even though the signs are everywhere. Que Dios nos proteja.
I do have a lot of comments for you, Undeniably good at pretending you were a dumb jellyfish when you obviously were a squid.
However, my time is spoken for at least until I resolve some legal issues in gifting something of pretty significant value (for auction) to a charitable cause. We lost our rescue dog last month.
It was a hell of a month for me. I ended up face down on pavement surrounded by copfuks which rapidly got a bit worried when their defenseless female in the house dress started spouting the Fourth Amendment verbatim at their cameras and asking why I couldn’t just go see my lawyer his office is RIGHT THERE.
I am betting some folks here at TBP would know how to get those odd and frantic rantings by me on a specific date and GPS location. (I think the car wash parking lot one block from my attorney’s office is probably close enough for some of you super spooky friends of Administrator’s. I am not kidding… I have photos of the bruises and a story that should scare all your wives and daughters into taking a conceal carry class.)
So, good points, Un-deroos. I am working hard on my own series of articles and some go here; some do not.
https://www.facebook.com/narcissistsupportgroup/
@Ghost – My mother is the consummate narcissist. From my birth to my wedding the woman made my life difficult at every turn, and then guilted the shit out of me over it afterword. The stories are numerable, and while they are my own personal experiences, I know they apply across a broader group of people.
Ultimately, I am thankful for that vicious bitch and what I learned from it. In my current workplace we have a tyrant of a narcissist who runs roughshod over 90% of the company. She consistnelty makes million dollar mistakes, drives people away, and makes everyone miserable.
While I do not enjoy her being around, it places me in an enviable position. You see, I was raised by this woman, for the most part. She might not be my mother but their motives and playbooks are the same, and its damned hard to beat someone when they know what you will do before they do it.
I’ve danced around, over, and through her for years now at work, and she’s starting to realize what sort of a fight she’s in for as recently her prime bully boy was forced out of the company and the CEO placed me in the guy’s position.
Why do people in charge allow narcissists to destroy the workplace? Most times, they know they idiots are not productive.
Are the people in charge really cowards?
Simply put? Yes. I think they are only seeing the “good” she does, while ignoring all the bad. Recently the heat has been put to her, but it still ebs and flows, and every chance she gets she is tearing someone down, or wrecking some department’s budget with her weirdness.
Pathological behavior at work is enabled, not rejected; that single insight is why I am a consultant now.
The frame of reference of what the Constitutional Republic was supposed to be has been so and completely lost by (my guess) at least 7 out of 10 “citizens.” The inuring indoctrination, at a young age, by the public educational institutions is now having it’s desired outcome. How do you have a conversation with someone about something that they have never experienced and, more importantly, have been taught to shirk away from and to see as abhorrent behavior? They see their lives in context of a government and only see the definition of their identities through those limited glasses. The very concept of individual freedom and responsibility has been relegated to the area of terrorism or radicalism. We are to serve, but not be served by our government.
This path is entrenched and, with each passing year, there are fewer of us with the voices and understanding to see the world more clearly for what it really is… The tipping point has already been surpassed, but the patience and never-ending grind of TPTB is willing to let time wipe out any real dissent.