Death at Your Door: Knock-and-Talk Police Tactics Rip a Hole in the Constitution

Guest Post by John W. Whitehead

It’s 1:30 a.m., a time when most people are asleep.

Your neighborhood is in darkness, except for a few street lamps. Someone—he doesn’t identify himself and the voice isn’t familiar—is pounding on your front door, demanding that you open up. Your heart begins racing. Your stomach is tied in knots. The adrenaline is pumping through you. You fear that it’s an intruder or worse. You not only fear for your life, but the lives of your loved ones.

The aggressive pounding continues, becoming more jarring with every passing second. Desperate to protect yourself and your loved ones from whatever threat awaits on the other side of that door, you scramble to lay hold of something—anything—that you might use in self-defense. It might be a flashlight, a baseball bat, or that licensed and registered gun you thought you’d never need. You brace for the confrontation, a shaky grip on your weapon, and approach the door cautiously. The pounding continues.

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You open the door to find a shadowy figure aiming a gun in your direction. Immediately, you back up and retreat further into your apartment. At the same time, the intruder opens fire, sending a hail of bullets in your direction. Three of the bullets make contact. You die without ever raising your weapon or firing your gun in self-defense. In your final moments, you get a good look at your assailant: it’s the police.

This is what passes for “knock-and-talk” policing in the American police state.

“Knock-and-shoot” policing might be more accurate, however.

Whatever you call it, this aggressive, excessive police tactic has become a thinly veiled, warrantless exercise by which citizens are coerced and intimidated into “talking” with heavily armed police who “knock” on their doors in the middle of the night.

Poor Andrew Scott didn’t even get a chance to say no to such a heavy-handed request before he was gunned down by police in a scenario almost exactly like the one described above.

It was late on a Saturday night—so late that it was technically Sunday morning—and 26-year-old Scott was at home with his girlfriend playing video games when police, in pursuit of a speeding motorcyclist, arrived at Scott’s apartment complex, assumed tactical positions with guns drawn and ready to shoot, and began pounding on his apartment door (because it had a light on and there was a motorcycle parked nearby).

Understandably alarmed by the aggressive pounding on his door at such a late hour, Scott retrieved his handgun before opening the door. Upon opening the door, Scott saw a shadowy figure holding a gun outside his door.

Police failed to identify themselves.

Unnerved by the sight of the gunman, Scott retreated into his apartment only to have police immediately open fire on him. Of the six shots fired, three hit and killed Scott, who had no connection to the motorcycle or any illegal activity.

So who was at fault here?

Was it Andrew Scott, who was prepared to defend himself and his girlfriend against a possible late-night intruder?

Was it the police officers who banged on the wrong door in the middle of the night, failed to identify themselves, and then—without asking any questions or attempting to de-escalate the situation—shot and killed an innocent man?

Was it the courts, which not only ruled that the police had qualified immunity against being sued for Scott’s murder but also concluded that Andrew Scott provoked the confrontation by retrieving a lawfully-owned handgun before opening the door?

Or was it the whole crooked system that’s to blame? I’m referring to the courts that continue to march in lockstep with the police state, the police unions that continue to strong-arm politicians into letting the police agencies literally get away with murder, the legislators who care more about getting re-elected than about protecting the rights of the citizenry, the police who are being trained to view their fellow citizens as enemy combatants on a battlefield, and the citizenry who fail to be alarmed and outraged every time the police state shoots another hole in the Constitution.

What happened to Andrew Scott was not an isolated incident.

These knock-and-talk cases have grown legion.

Police insist that there’s nothing coercive about these tactics. Yet whether police are knocking on your door at 2 am or 2:30 pm, as long as you’re being “asked” to talk to a police officer who is armed to the teeth and inclined to kill at the least provocation, you don’t really have much room to resist, not if you value your life.

Mind you, these knock-and-talk searches are little more than police fishing expeditions carried out without a warrant.

The goal is intimidation and coercion.

Unfortunately, we’re going to see more of these warrantless knock-and-talk police tactics.

We’ve already seen a dramatic rise in the number of home invasions by battle-ready SWAT teams and police who have been transformed into extensions of the military. Indeed, with every passing week, we hear more and more horror stories in which homeowners are injured or killed simply because they mistook a SWAT team raid by police for a home invasion by criminals.

Never mind that the unsuspecting homeowner, woken from sleep by the sounds of a violent entry, has no way of distinguishing between a home invasion by a criminal as opposed to a government agent. Too often, the destruction of life and property wrought by the police is no less horrifying than that carried out by criminal invaders.

As I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People, these incidents underscore a dangerous mindset in which civilians (often unarmed and defenseless) not only have less rights than militarized police, but also one in which the safety of civilians is treated as a lower priority than the safety of their police counterparts (who are armed to the hilt with an array of lethal and nonlethal weapons).

Winston Churchill once declared that “democracy means that if the doorbell rings in the early hours, it is likely to be the milkman.”

Clearly, we don’t live in a democracy.

No, in the American police state, when you find yourself woken in the early hours by someone pounding on your door, smashing through your door, terrorizing your family, killing your pets, and shooting you if you dare to resist in any way, you don’t need to worry that it might be burglars out to rob and kill you: it’s just the police.

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JIMSKI
JIMSKI
March 28, 2017 8:33 am

I live in the country where 911 is 10 minutes away. I recently upgraded the house unit to this:

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15 rounds 12 gage and it shoots like a dream. One tube is slugs one tube is buck.

The door moves and inch and I start shooting.

starfcker
starfcker
March 28, 2017 9:02 am

How many facts can Whitehead leave out of the story? Police were ACTIVELY chasing a MURDER suspect, not a girl scout. Mr. Scott pointed his gun in the deputies face. That will get you shot every single time, anywhere in the world. Florida has great castle doctrine laws, stand your ground, best laws in the country. But you still don’t EVER get to point your gun at cops. I’m pretty familiar with the constitution, Mr. Whiehead. Rip a hole in it, how? Simple simon.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  starfcker
March 28, 2017 9:13 am

Leaving out pertinent facts is just a type of lying, and we are at a time when the truth is becoming more important than ever.

If the point you’re trying to make needs to be supported by excluding part of the truth, maybe you should rethink and refine your point.

kokoda - the most deplorable
kokoda - the most deplorable
  starfcker
March 28, 2017 9:24 am

star….what about announcing yourselves as cops banging on the door?

starfcker
starfcker
  kokoda - the most deplorable
March 28, 2017 9:49 am

Kokoa, I wasn’t there. Whether or not the cop identified himself wasn’t one of the facts in dispute when this case was daily news, so I don’t know. Anonymous is absolutely right. Leaving out facts, as Whitehead does, is just a form of lying.

AtlasShrugginALL
AtlasShrugginALL
  starfcker
March 28, 2017 10:34 am

Starfckr,
The facts: middle of the night warrantless, banging loudly on a door dressed in black with little to no insignia, 99% of patriots would shoot, cop or not. In your own home, not expecting anyone trying to urgently beat down your door, is cause for fight or flight. Either gets you killed, run you die by being mistaken as the perp, stay and hide they shoot, confront them and they shoot….if you shoot or not the courts find them innocent…my fear is when people conclude the only thing left (if this becomes commonplace) is for people in this situation to take out as many as they can until their numbers dwindle and forces them to change their tactics or accept they too are placed in a precarious position for a 50% survival rate….when the fight is even it’s amazing how intelligence prevails…..and these tactics are halted or changed. I am not advocating this but logic prevails and seems if the Jews did the same to the Gustapo, the door to door raids on Jews looking for Guns might have been the exception vs the norm.

I don’t care if they were chasing a murder suspect, Hitler, or a Girl Scout, an innocent man was ripped apart in his own home, without firing a shot from his legally owned defensive weapon….seems this uneducated, untrained, average Joe showed more professionlism, restraint, and respect for laws than those sworn in to protecting the laws. They don’t answer for their mistakes…but plenty of cases show and set precedent that when the homeowner shoots and lives they still charge the homeowner, levying fines, jail time, tying their reputations… these are absolute markings of police state…..rip this apart. Simple minded…….without bias, fact driven. I have many friends that are law enforcement, fully respect them and understand mistakes happen. However, when they train to shoot first ask later, there are vast system issues. I doubt that Is the case right now thank goodness!

anarchyst
anarchyst
  AtlasShrugginALL
April 2, 2017 10:35 am

“Without a right to resist, we have a duty to submit — and submission to unlawful police violence frequently results in serious injury, sexual assault, and death.”

By the Brezhnev era, after tens of millions had been exterminated in the gulag, many Russians lamented that “submissiveness had softened our brains to such a degree” that resistance was no longer possible. All of this could have been avoided, Solzhenitsyn contended, if resistance had begun “at the moment of arrest itself.”

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”– Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago

“In keeping silent about evil, in burying it so deep within us that no sign of it appears on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousand fold in the future. When we neither punish nor reproach evildoers, we are not simply protecting their trivial old age, we are thereby ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations.”

BrutusMax
BrutusMax
  starfcker
March 28, 2017 10:52 am

You did read that he had his gun pointed down, right?

starfcker
starfcker
  BrutusMax
March 28, 2017 12:17 pm

Atlas, you’re a dumbass. You don’t stop and get a warrant while chasing a violent suspect. Testimony in the case was that Mr Scott pointed his gun at the cop. Sorry Brutus, you’re now quoting Slate’s LGBT writer. Noone ever claimed the police did not identify themselves, or that he didn’t point his gun, until the family lawyered up. This ruling was that they couldn’t sue. That case was on the news here, funny how the facts change. This case is like 5 years old. The ruling that the family couldn’t sue is several years old. Whitehead rings the dinnerbell, and you folks start slobbering.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  starfcker
March 28, 2017 1:55 pm

You’re trying to provide truth, that has no place in discussions like this.

Tony
Tony
  starfcker
March 28, 2017 12:06 pm

His mistake was opening the door. I’m staying inside behind cover at the ready. Bust in with no announcement and I am not taking names; they are not leos if they don’t say so in advance.

Michael
Michael
March 28, 2017 11:40 am

Why open the door to loud or even quiet “pounding?” Why not yell back and ask who the hell is pounding on your door? And furthermore why would you be holding a gun if you did open the door to loud pounding? The pounder must be assumed to be frantic/disturbed about something and you are not going to calm anyone down by holding a gun but instead you are advancing the likelihood of some kind of violent confrontation. You might be able assume that anyone pounding on your door at any hour is not going to be an intruder, but rather a cop, a lunatic, or someone needing help with an emergency. To shout through the door “Who is that pounding on my door?” makes a lot more sense than to open the door with a threat in your hand.

xrugger
xrugger
March 28, 2017 2:26 pm

None of you people have the remotest clue as to what actually took place with regard to this incident for one simple reason. NONE OF YOU WERE THERE!!!

Whitehead is equally clueless due to the simple fact that HE WASN’T THERE EITHER!!! The only other burden he bears is that if he leaves stated facts out of the story, then he’s a lying SOB just as much as the cops who may or may not be lying about the stated facts that Whitehead leaves out. Are you armchair theorizers following me here??

Blather on all you want about who was at fault, what the systemic problems are, how you would act and react in such a situation, and all the rest of the meaningless guessing about what “actually” happened. NO ONE KNOWS WHAT REALLY HAPPENED EXCEPT THE COPS WHO SHOT AND THE GUY WHO GOT SHOT!!!

Let me clue you people in on something. No one will EVER know what truly happened to this guy because the only people who know the truth are the victim and he’s not talking, and the cops (God only knows if they’re telling the truth or not and I mean that literally).

So, pronounce, propound, declaim, pontificate, assert, and assume all you want. It gets you no closer to the truth and it changes exactly nothing.

Michael
Michael
  xrugger
March 28, 2017 2:51 pm

You seem overwrought, xrugger. Not sure why you think we all should be doing jury duty when what we are discussing is not for the purpose of rendering truth (as close possibly as you can humanly get it) but to understand the problem of being shot in your own freaking residence by militarist police.

ASIG
ASIG
March 28, 2017 3:16 pm

For those that want to make whether they announced they were police of not the key issue, let me point out that there are plenty of cases where home invaders have pounded on peoples doors and announced that they were police. So if you open your door just because someone claims to be police, what risk are you taking; how do you know they truly are police; some police come in uniforms and some come without, and some home invaders come in police uniforms.

A friend once told me he and his wife were at home one night and someone began pounding on his door saying “police open the door”. He looked out and saw a big black guy at the door and three other black guys further back. He said he yelled thru the door something like “I don’t see a uniform so how do I know you’re the police?” The guy just repeated “police open the door”. So he yelled to his wife who was upstairs to call the police and he said he knew the guy outside could hear him, shortly after that the guys outside left.

Another point about his story that I found interesting is the he said it took the police over twenty minutes to get there and even when they did they stopped about 200ft from his house and sat there and observed the situation before finally coming up to his house.

Also he later learned the same thing happened to someone nearby only those people opened their door and they were robbed.

TampaRed
TampaRed
March 29, 2017 8:15 am

This link was in the story-how many of you read it?
It was not a murder suspect they were after but an assault suspect.
Lake County policy does not require deputies to announce themselves.
Though a stupid thing to do,Scott was entirely within his rights as a citizen to answer his own door with a gun in his hand.
I would like to know upon what legal reasoning was this man shot?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-judge-says-lake-fatal-shooting-justified-20140922-story.html