Have We Just Reached Peak Stock Market Absurdity?

Authored by Michael Snyder via The Economic Colapse blog,

Have you ever wondered how tech companies that have been losing hundreds of millions of dollars year after year can somehow be worth billions of dollars according to the stock market?  Because I run a website called “The Economic Collapse“, there are naysayers out there that take glee in mocking me by pointing out how well the stock market has been doing.  This week, the Dow is flirting with 21,000 and the Nasdaq crossed the 6,000 threshold for the first time ever.  But a lot of the “soaring stocks” that have been fueling this rally have been losing giant mountains of money every single year, and just like the first tech bubble this madness will eventually come to an end in a spectacular fiery crash in which investors will lose trillions of dollars.

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Anyone that cannot see that we are in the midst of an absolutely insane stock market bubble simply does not understand economics.  Every valuation indicator that you can possibly point to says that we are in a bubble of epic proportions, and history teaches us that all bubbles inevitably come to an end at some point.

Earlier today, I came across an article by Graham Summers in which he persuasively argued that the price to sales ratio indicates that stock prices are far more inflated than they were just prior to the great stock market crash of 2008…

Sales cannot be gimmicked. Either money comes in the door, or it doesn’t. And if a company is caught messing around with its sales numbers, someone is going to jail.

For this reason, Price to Sales is perhaps the single most objective and clear means of measuring stock valuations.

This metric, above all others, you can point to and say, “this is definitively accurate and has not been messed with.”

On that note, as Bill King recently noted, today the S&P 500 is sporting a P/S ratio that is massively higher than it was in 2007 and is only marginally lower than it was during the Tech Bubble (the single largest stock bubble of all time for most measures).

To me, looking at profitability is even more important than looking at sales.

Large tech companies such as Twitter certainly have lots of revenue coming in, but many of them are deeply unprofitable.

In fact, Twitter has never made a yearly profit, and over the past decade it has actually lost more than 2 billion dollars.

But despite all of that, investors absolutely love Twitter stock.  As I write this article, Twitter has a market cap of 11.5 billion dollars.

How in the world is that possible?

How can a company that has never made a single penny be worth more than 11 billion dollars?

Twitter is never going to be more popular than it is now.  If it can’t make a profit at the peak of its popularity, when will it ever happen?

And guess what?  ABC News says that Twitter actually just reported a decline in revenue for the most recent quarter…

Twitter has never turned a profit, and for the first time since going public in 2013, it reported a decline in revenue from the previous year. Its revenue was $548.3 million, down 8 percent.

Net loss was $61.6 million, or 9 cents per share, compared with a loss of $79.7 million, or 12 cents per share, a year earlier.

The only reason why financial black holes such as Twitter can continue to exist is because investors have been willing to pour endless amounts of money into them, but now that bubble is starting to burst.

In his most recent article, Simon Black discussed how Silicon Valley investors are starting to become more cautious because so many of these “unicorns” are now going bust.  One of the examples that he cited in his article was a company called Clinkle…

(Given that investing in an early stage company is high-risk, investors might provide a few hundred thousand dollars in funding, at most. Clinkle raised $25 million.)

The company went on to burn through just about every penny of its investors’ capital.

There were even photos that surfaced of the 21-year old CEO literally setting bricks of cash on fire.

At the end of the farce, Clinkle never actually managed to build its supposedly ‘world-changing’ product, and the website is now all but defunct.

Most of you may have never even heard of Clinkle, but I bet that you have definitely heard of Netflix.

Netflix has revolutionized how movies are delivered to our homes, and that revolution helped drive movie rental stores to the brink of extinction.

There is just one huge problem.  It turns out that Netflix is losing hundreds of millions of dollars

Netflix might be my favorite example.

The company’s most recent earnings report for the period ending March 31, 2017 shows, yet again, negative Free Cash Flow of MINUS $422 million.

Not only is that a record loss, it’s 62% worse than in Q1/2016, and over twice as bad as Q1/2015.

Netflix just keeps losing more and more money.

But even though Netflix is losing money at a pace that is exceedingly difficult to imagine, investors absolutely love the company.

I just checked, and at this moment Netflix has a market cap of 68.4 billion dollars.

Sometimes I just want to scream because of the absurdity of it all.

Companies that are losing hundreds of millions of dollars a year at the peak of their popularity should not be worth billions of dollars.

Nobody can possibly argue that these enormously inflated stock prices are sustainable.  Just like with every other stock market bubble in our history, this one is going to burst too, and I have been warning about this for quite a long time.

But for the moment, the naysayers are having their time to shine.  Despite the fact that U.S. consumers are 12 trillion dollars in debt, and despite the fact that corporate debt has doubled since the last financial crisis, and despite the fact that the federal government is 20 trillion dollars in debt, they seem to be convinced that this irrational stock market bubble can keep inflating indefinitely.

Perhaps they can all put their money where their mouth is by pouring all of their savings into Twitter, Netflix and other tech company stocks.

In the end, we will see who was right and who was wrong.

 

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Iska Waran
Iska Waran
April 27, 2017 8:45 am

Crash already.

Card802
Card802
  Iska Waran
April 27, 2017 9:03 am

No kidding.

Suzanna
Suzanna
April 27, 2017 9:16 am

Ditto

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 27, 2017 9:32 am

Bring it. Let’s get this over with.

artbyjoe
artbyjoe
April 27, 2017 9:55 am

some investors are going to lose a lot of money. won’t be the ones who get out early, and stay out.
problem is , that no one can figure out a safe place to invest their wealth. my conclusion is that if the wealthy can’t figure it out, the middle and poor don’t stand a chance.
my advice is usually to have or get some land with good water, good soil and good sun. to start preparing to hunker down. to spend some wealth for old technology, or at least sustainable technology. solar power, wind power is there, but is not as dependable as solar, because it has moving parts that wear out. each person needs to make his own prediction of how bad it is going to get and prepare for at least that. you need to figure out what is really the most important thing you want, and focus on that. i have some friends who say that they want a comfortable life, with the ability to sit in their recliner and watch on the big screen as the world goes to hell. in my opinion, hardscrabble farmer is the model to shoot for. there is another on a different site, a man who is called the king of compost. him i also envy. he spends most of his time and energy gathering materials from nearby stockyards and saw mills. for him having at least 10,000 yards of compost cooking up in the fields is normal. building the soil fertility of his farm. in order to accomplish this he has had to invest time, money and energy into his tractor, bulldozer, loader, and dump trailers. at least he will never lose most of his wealth in the stock market. my own personal goal is to have about 3 acres, with about half acre of gardens. with the gardens providing most of the feed for chickens and rabbits. i can be content with that and no debts.

Anon
Anon
  artbyjoe
April 27, 2017 10:29 am

‘problem is , that no one can figure out a safe place to invest their wealth. my conclusion is that if the wealthy can’t figure it out, the middle and poor don’t stand a chance.’ + 100
This is the crux of the problem. It is not that investors can’t read a 10-k, and that somehow they don’t know that these companies are cash furnaces, it is that there is NO PLACE to put wealth anymore. Thanks to US for tolerating a too big to fail banking system, and allowing the Fed to monetize our money.
These absurdly low interest rates are killing pensions, insurance companies are being forced to buy apartment complexes to get yield, seniors that have saved their whole lives are now being stolen from by the bankers and government to maintain deficit spending.
At the end of the day, QE and ultra low interest rates are not about the rich, or the bankers, they are about the national debt. The government is protecting itself. If the Fed raised rates to 5% the take from federal taxes would almost break even with paying the interest on our bonds. THAT is the elephant in the room. And the only cure, is the one thing that NO ONE in Washington wants to talk about, reducing spending.

KaD
KaD
April 27, 2017 10:54 am

https://www.sovereignman.com/trends/this-bubble-finally-burst-which-ones-next-21412/

-if the startup bubble in Silicon Valley can burst, why shouldn’t the bubble in the larger stock market?

In some respects there’s very little difference between the two.

Flashman
Flashman
April 27, 2017 11:03 am

IMO “investment” in Stock Markets is secondary. The primary objective is the containment of trillions in fiat currencies. Can you imagine the consequence of this tidal wave of paper bidding for real assets? Ponzi scheme revealed. Game over.

Fiatman60
Fiatman60
April 27, 2017 11:33 am

When your economy is flat – lined at 1-2% and inflation is running at north of 6%, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that the stock market is about to implode, it’s going to be a real bad depression looming out there.
You won’t need to worry about the big cap markets, because they have their super computers which trade’s in milli seconds.
No, the person you need to worry about, is the poor schmuck that reads the TBP every morning, heavily invested in the stock market, and reads that his portfolio is in a free fall, and can’t get into his trading account to cash out.
And when he finally does get in, he’s told that the transaction won’t be completed until the end of the day!!

NickelthroweR
NickelthroweR
April 27, 2017 11:55 am

Greetings,

I’ve never played in the markets ’cause I’ve never met anyone that did well in that game. Knowing that this thing has the potential to go down big time, I can’t help but wonder where I should put my resources. Precious metals and hard goods seem the way to go but only really have any value should everything 100% go to sh*t.

In the end, I’d love to short these tech companies but I also know that absurdity knows no bounds.

Diogenes
Diogenes
April 27, 2017 12:05 pm

The stock market is a giant circle jerk. Stacking silver, lead and storable food.