Are America’s Wars Just and Moral?

Guest Post by Patrick J. Buchanan

“One knowledgeable official estimates that the CIA-backed fighters may have killed or wounded 100,000 Syrian soldiers and their allies,” writes columnist David Ignatius.

Given that Syria’s prewar population was not 10 percent of ours, this is the equivalent of a million dead and wounded Americans. What justifies America’s participation in this slaughter?

Columnist Eric Margolis summarizes the successes of the six-year civil war to overthrow President Bashar Assad.

“The result of the western-engendered carnage in Syria was horrendous: at least 475,000 dead, 5 million Syrian refugees driven into exile in neighboring states (Turkey alone hosts three million), and another 6 million internally displaced. … 11 million Syrians … driven from their homes into wretched living conditions and near famine.

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“Two of Syria’s greatest and oldest cities, Damascus and Aleppo, have been pounded into ruins. Jihadist massacres and Russian and American air strikes have ravaged once beautiful, relatively prosperous Syria. Its ancient Christian peoples are fleeing for their lives before US and Saudi takfiri religious fanatics.”

Realizing the futility of U.S. policy, President Trump is cutting aid to the rebels. And the War Party is beside itself. Says The Wall Street Journal:

“The only way to reach an acceptable diplomatic solution is if Iran and Russia feel they are paying too high a price for their Syria sojourn. This means more support for Mr. Assad’s enemies, not cutting them off without notice. And it means building up a Middle East coalition willing to fight Islamic State and resist Iran. The U.S. should also consider enforcing ‘safe zones’ in Syria for anti-Assad forces.”

Yet, fighting ISIS and al-Qaida in Syria, while bleeding the Assad-Iran-Russia-Hezbollah victors, is a formula for endless war and unending terrors visited upon the Syrian people.

What injury did the Assad regime, in power for half a century and having never attacked us, inflict to justify what we have helped to do to that country?

Is this war moral by our own standards?

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We overthrew Saddam Hussein in 2003 and Moammar Gadhafi in 2012. Yet, the fighting, killing and dying in both countries have not ceased. Estimates of the Iraq civilian and military dead run into the hundreds of thousands.

Still, the worst humanitarian disaster may be unfolding in Yemen.

After the Houthis overthrew the Saudi-backed regime and took over the country, the Saudis in 2015 persuaded the United States to support its air strikes, invasion and blockade.

By January 2016, the U.N. estimated a Yemeni civilian death toll of 10,000, with 40,000 wounded. However, the blockade of Yemen, which imports 90 percent of its food, has caused a crisis of malnutrition and impending famine that threatens millions of the poorest people in the Arab world with starvation.

No matter how objectionable we found these dictators, what vital interests of ours were so imperiled by the continued rule of Saddam, Assad, Gadhafi and the Houthis that they would justify what we have done to the peoples of those countries?

“They make a desert and call it peace,” Calgacus said of the Romans he fought in the first century. Will that be our epitaph?

Among the principles for a just war, it must be waged as a last resort, to address a wrong suffered, and by a legitimate authority. Deaths of civilians are justified only if they are unavoidable victims of a deliberate attack on a military target.

The wars in Syria, Libya and Yemen were never authorized by Congress. The civilian dead, wounded and uprooted in Syria, and the malnourished millions in Yemen, represent a moral cost that seems far beyond any proportional moral gain from those conflicts.

In which of the countries we have attacked or invaded in this century — Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen — are the people better off than they were before we came?

And we wonder why they hate us.

“Those to whom evil is done/Do evil in return,” wrote W. H. Auden in “September 1, 1939.” As the peoples of Syria and the other broken and bleeding countries of the Middle East flee to Europe and America, will not some come with revenge on their minds and hatred in their hearts?

Meanwhile, as the Americans bomb across the Middle East, China rises. She began the century with a GDP smaller than Italy’s and now has an economy that rivals our own.

She has become the world’s first manufacturing power, laid claim to the islands of the East and South China seas, and told America to keep her warships out of the Taiwan Strait.

Xi Jinping has launched a “One Belt, One Road” policy to finance trade ports and depots alongside the military and naval bases being established in Central and South Asia.

Meanwhile, the Americans, $20 trillion in debt, running $800 billion trade deficits, unable to fix their health care system, reform their tax code, or fund an infrastructure program, prepare to fight new Middle East war.

Whom the Gods would destroy…

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WIP
WIP
July 25, 2017 7:05 am

Just and moral? Fuck yeah!! Semper Fi muthafucka!! This is Murica!! More support, money and praise for our Hero’s. Get on board bitches else you ain’t Murican!!

kokoda - the most deplorable
kokoda - the most deplorable
  WIP
July 25, 2017 8:55 am

WIP….easy now. It is not the individual soldiers that are causing the U.S. to kill and destroy countries that don’t get on their knees to U.S. demands.

I do have a problem with the CIA – their personnel don’t say no, for EXAMPLE, to supplying ISIS or al Qaeda or etc. with weapons, intelligence, training to kill/butcher innocents. Surely they know they are supporting evil. So, who is more evil?

WIP
WIP
  kokoda - the most deplorable
July 25, 2017 9:28 am

Koko,

What creates our military now since there is no draft? It’s 1) support 2) money 3) praise and 4) “Murica, fuck yeah!!!”. Oh, and it’s a j.o.b.s program.

Who’s brainwashing these young people to do something they have no idea if it’s right or wrong? Who’s pointing out to them what’s going on? Not even the truth can help because…”Wip, you can’t say things like that”.

If a person does something wrong (like too much bad debt), we say suck it up and blame yourself. But God forbid we point out the irresponsible support for evil?

Maybe I’m just a dick. It isn’t my objective to be one. Maybe I don’t understand.

I can’t imagine there is anyone (who isn’t profiting from war) that isn’t sick and tired of it. They certainly can’t believe the reasons can they?

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  WIP
July 25, 2017 9:56 am

The whole “thank you for your service” thing has gotten out of hand. We wouldn’t have the ability to contemplate and threaten war everywhere if we didn’t have a standing army ready to send. The most patriotic thing you can do these days is to talk people out of joining the military. If the Chi-Coms invade, we’ll deal with it then, although we might consider letting them have San Francisco.

kokoda - the most deplorable
kokoda - the most deplorable
July 25, 2017 7:13 am

“No matter how objectionable we found these dictators…”

This needs a revision; try:
No matter how objectionable ISRAEL found these dictators

kokoda - the most deplorable
kokoda - the most deplorable
  kokoda - the most deplorable
July 25, 2017 8:57 am

I’ve noticed someone always dings me when I point out an obvious Fact that Israel is the problem. It is so fucking obvious.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
July 25, 2017 8:08 am

America must stick its military industrial complex dick beaters in every country in the world where people or governments are either to stupid or to weak to manage their own affairs in the flag waving bull shitters from Wall Street to K-Street to Capitol Street and to the Pentagon . Every single middle eastern involvement for the Unitied States has been a huge “LOSE. LOSE” situation for American citizens and especially for the families that have lost family members in every fools errand the investor circle jerk colluded to send them into . It’s time to tell Isareal and the Jewish lobby in congress no more foreign aid to any country “NONE” including Isareal ! You as a private citizen want to pass the hat for a foreign country or cause fine but keep your filthy bottom feeding hands of me and mine . Most American families understand the real cost of a war and who really gains from it !

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Boat Guy
July 25, 2017 9:59 am

Then tell your kids and all of their friends not to join the military and stop saying “thank you for your service”. Reject the propaganda. Starve the beast.

WIP
WIP
  Iska Waran
July 25, 2017 10:17 am

And if the draft is reconstituted, claim conscious objector status. UNLESS the homeland is invaded. If that happens then disregard everything I’ve said over the last few days. If you defend the homeland than, FUCK YEAH you’re a hero.

Suzanna
Suzanna
July 25, 2017 11:21 am

oh yes, DU and white phosphorus weaponry
are fine to use. The people receiving this
treatment just don’t see the benefit.

Is that what we are to believe?

Did anyone see Clapper, Brennen, and the Wolf Blitzer
talk about staging a coup against Prez. Trump?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-24/former-cia-director-calls-coup-if-trump-fires-mueller

nkit
nkit
July 25, 2017 11:46 am

No giraffes left behind….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU5u7aoSxFQ

BL
BL
July 25, 2017 12:34 pm

Not just NO, but hell NO.

Azathoth
Azathoth
July 25, 2017 12:42 pm

I have been noticing a veritable army of paid trolls in the comment sections on various websites I frequent trying to gin up support for our increased interference in Syria. I have also been noticing that they are spectacularly unsuccessful selling this particular war to Americans. Maybe there’s hope for us?

BL
BL
  Azathoth
July 25, 2017 12:59 pm

You chose a name from Lovecraft and then complain about trolls……interesting.

Azathoth
Azathoth
  BL
July 25, 2017 3:24 pm

I’m a little slow today…please elaborate. What have you figured out from my post and name?

BL
BL
  Azathoth
July 25, 2017 7:41 pm

Aza- Trolls are known for using names from Warcraft, Lovecraft etc. Anyway, glad you are here, keep joining in. 🙂

Azathoth
Azathoth
  BL
July 26, 2017 1:29 am

I did not know that. Lovecraft is one of my favorite authors. I think a blind, idiot god is a brilliant metaphor. The moon never sets over Azeroth.

Miles Long
Miles Long
  Azathoth
July 25, 2017 2:09 pm

May be of interest?

BL
BL
  Miles Long
July 25, 2017 2:50 pm

Thank you Miles, and they better stay out of my dishwasher!

fleabaggs
fleabaggs
July 25, 2017 2:07 pm

I’ve said as much as I can say about “Just Wars” in My War. All I can say now is Take your kids off shore if they draft again. Knowing what we know know there is no justification for joining the service. And as Iska said above, don’t thank them.

Soup Nazi
Soup Nazi
July 25, 2017 2:24 pm

“NO! Next question!”

fleabaggs
fleabaggs
July 25, 2017 2:39 pm

Oh Hell! Maybe I can say more.
Go ahead and do the Rah Rah dance and send you kids over there to save democracy and rigged free markets. When they come back with a thousand yard stare, with needle tracks, sniffles, coughs and constipation, don’t think a thing of it. A little love and affection from Mom and Dad will fix it. Then 2 years later when one of them calls you into the kitchen and then blows their fucking brains out right in front of you to pay you back, be sure to thank them for their service. If that offends anyone good, I meant to offend and those offended can kiss whats left of my skinny red headed ass.
I lost half my life over a just war and it took 15 more of hard painful work to rejoin the human race. My mother never recovered from it.

BL
BL
  fleabaggs
July 25, 2017 2:44 pm

Most excellent comment flea.

WIP
WIP
  fleabaggs
July 25, 2017 3:56 pm

That’s pretty powerful. I’m glad to hear you were able to recover.

The forgotten soldier.?

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  WIP
July 25, 2017 4:27 pm

WIP.
Most of my buddies took themselves out in their own version of that. According to VA stats only 80,000 of us left. 300,000 by suicide.
I deliberately offend not for those like you or the others who have commented here but to break through the minds of the indifferent who might wander over here.
If you want to know more about us I did a 4 page article here on may 18 or 19 called my war by fleabaggs. I wrote it for all of us guys and our families. No Rambo rah rah stuff.

Wip
Wip
  Fleabaggs
July 25, 2017 7:06 pm

Flea, I think I remember reading that. I’ll look for it again. Thanks. Down the street from me there are two homes with Vietnam vets. I assume anyway since they have hogs, MIA flags and they act very solemn. Even when I see them at the gas station. I want to say something but I just leave them alone.

nkit
nkit
July 25, 2017 3:41 pm

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Boat Guy
Boat Guy
  nkit
July 25, 2017 7:32 pm

When you get drafted there are or were few unattractive options than to grin and take what the green machine is ramming up your ass BOHICA

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
July 25, 2017 4:27 pm

The question we must answer is this: “What is it about the U.S. that makes us think we can lord over other sovereign countries?”
Is it:
A. We’re smarter and their people don’t know what they’re doing.
B. We have a grand agenda to our foreign policy (but that’s classified..need to know basis only).
C: To keep feeding the military/industrial complex.
Feel free to vote below.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Westcoaster
July 25, 2017 4:32 pm

A. B. and C. Being smarter gives us the right to do all 3 even if they say “over our dead bodies”.

Overthecliff
Overthecliff
July 25, 2017 6:27 pm

Morality of a war is decided by the victor. All else is just bullshit. That being said stay out of all wars unless someone tries to kill us. Then hunt them down and kill them all.

BL
BL
July 25, 2017 9:00 pm

Is Admin on vacation again, he is very quiet lately? Maybe he is writing a new series of articles.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
July 26, 2017 7:16 pm

Not since 1776 (and even that war was fought to consolidate power in the hands of an American ruling elite hell-bent on imposing central banking and mercantilism on the people under the ruse of “freedom”).