Have we been convinced to NOT see what we see because we are told it is NOT there, seen at the 5 minute point on the tape when the first statements on the NIST findings are about what was NOT found? I paraphrase… “First and foremost, we spent three years of analyzing the collapse of WTC7 and and we found NO EVIDENCE of EXPLOSIVES. Now, for our findings…”
I wonder if they ever looked? It seems almost a hint that they signal to “someone” that there would be no reason to kill the messenger. I think it says “first of all, let me assure you I pose no threat to the deep state forces who have a bullseye on my head right now.”
I’m a little concerned because these are probably the same people who are telling us their “findings” on all the disasters of our time. Hat tip AnarchoPagan (sp?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=193&v=RJ_jQgIEnI8
Get Stucky over here real quick – this vid opposes the Gov’t line. We must all become compliant and obedient.
He’s not that bad, kokoda. Although, now that I’m sticking my neck out, I think I better skedaddle.
kokoda
I thought we were on good terms??
Why would you want to start a shitfest with me?
I hate when FUCKEN LIES are spread about me more than anything else.
I have stated over and over and over that I think the official government story is BULLSHIT!”
My only beef with Truthers is the controlled demolition aspect.
But, OK, sure, you wanna start spreading lying bullshit about me, let’s play.
Sell that house yet, Stuck? St. Joseph is your friend, just sayin’.
http://www.kaltura.com/index.php/extwidget/preview/partner_id/1909371/uiconf_id/36832722/entry_id/0_rxmrybkv/embed/auto?&flashvars%5BstreamerType%5D=auto
Earlier, I’d left a comment at the bottom that included a reference to Elton John’s 1972 “Don’t Shoot Me I’m Only the Piano Player” which has exactly two songs I recognize, though I was a “pre-teen” dancing to Crocodile Rock for years and am now a bit creeped out by Daniel.
I don’t know about some of you out there reading this, but seeing some of those freaks from the 60s really turn out to be FREAKS, but celebrated for it rather than scorned, is somewhat, eh… what’s the word? Disheartening, perhaps?
Maggie, just apply to semidailystorms secret personal validation society and for the nominal fee of your soul, they will give you affirmation and moral support. Blues and discontent with the world will vanish in an instant just like the building.
Well, I guess I’ll just get over it. Perhaps I’ll go pull weeds from my new stretch of lawn recently sodded or maybe go check the deer blind and see if I can’t drop a few pieces of candy and apple out there accidentally.
Zarathustra says:
September 12, 2017 at 11:58 am
http://www.kaltura.com/index.php/extwidget/preview/partner_id/1909371/uiconf_id/36832722/entry_id/0_rxmrybkv/embed/auto?&flashvars%5BstreamerType%5D=auto
That one is worth a look see.
Is that the FINAL report that was not yet complete?
Anon- That video is complete BS and NIST is complete BS and anyone who watches the first minute and sees a 47 story come down in 2.6 seconds and thinks “Oh….Duh the fire brought it down” is a complete moran and has NOTHING BUT SHIT FOR BRAINS. Sheesh….
Anon- Just look at that building where not one bit of the front facade is burned/burning. How in the heck does a undamaged steel and concrete facade fall at near free fall speed (straight down in it’s footprint) in less than 3 seconds? UNpossible. Same goes for the rest of that building.
That was a controlled demo bud.
Dude, I didn’t make that video.
The The National Institute of Standards and Technology did and posted it to their YouTube account.
Shouldn’t you be talking to them about it? I’m sure you have the credentials for an intelligent discussion with your professional peers there to do that.
Or do you just want anything you disagree with to be censored from any public view and discussion about the topic it concerns?
Look, if you are so monarch mind controlled that you can’t see a concrete and steel 47 story structure falling into it’s footprint in a controlled demo fashion then hells bells, WTF can I possibly do to help your BLIND, STUPID ASS? You are impaired mentally if you can’t sort that out Anon.
Fun.
I do resent being lumped in with the cuckoo cocoa puff crowd for simple questions that are reasonable.
That video embedded by anonymous states that no other modern building has ever collapsed from fire except the World Trade Center building 7. It was the first one. What a coincidence. It is also funny that the actual video of the building falling doesn’t match the way the computer simulations are shown in the video. Are we to expect the inner floors of building 7 collapsed first, then the exterior shell collapsed all at once in such a smooth way? But it must be true because the National Institute of Standards and Technology under the U.S. Department of Commerce says so. At least it has finally been figured out.
World Trade Center 7 Report Puts 9/11 Conspiracy Theory to Rest
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/design/a3524/4278874/
Ghost…..that is just the premier architects of the world (Popular Mechanics) rehashing NIST – BFD.
1:32 vid…..main starts at 36 sec
Fun.
I do resent being lumped in with the cuckoo cocoa puff crowd for simple questions that are reasonable.
Maggie, do you have any clue how EVERY riveted steel beam connection point at each of the 47 levels on the facade visible to the viewer in Anon’s video failed in succession within 2.6 seconds of each other? Certainly NOT from fire, so from WHAT? Hhhmm……..maybe Stucky knows the answer. Now that’s a for sure mystery.
PROUD TO BE A TEAM GOY Local 285 MEMBER (still blown away that the goy are this dumb after 16 years)
Come on Maggie. You knew that this post would throw jet fuel on the fire. You’re just doing this for yucks.
So Yuck Yuck…
What I find insane is expecting us to believe that all these buildings FELL INTO THEIR FOOTPRINTS. Not one burnt halfway, sideways, fell over? Not one had a single hard-wall or reinforced elevator shaft that defied instructions and was left standing?
NOTHING fails that cleanly. NO COLLECTION of buildings ALL FAIL CLEANLY.
Utterly ridiculous. The truth may or may not be out there, but the lies are there already.
Maggie
YOU’RE NOTHING BUT A FUCKEN SHIT STIRRER!
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Actually, churning it.
You just gotta love these animated monkeys I found.
http://www.netanimations.net/Apes-Gorillas-Monkey-Primate-Animation-clip-art.htm
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A couple of cool dog ones, too.
of course he has the simpletons looking the other way. Who cares We know it was nuked and thermed .. Its the WHO and WHY??
Here’s 30 facts about 9/11 most don’t know. 1. The Project for a New American Century was written in Israel in 1996 under the name – A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm. Requires a new Pearl Harbor for their plan. 2. Zionist Jew Silverstein purchased WTC 6 weeks prior. First time the WTC was ever put into Private Hands. Friends with Israeli Prime Ministers & Intelligence Services, along with Fed Reserve President & World Bank Presidents. 3. Zionist Jew Frank Lowy paid $127 million in May 2001 for a 99-year lease on the retail area beneath the New York World Trade Center. Member of the Golani Brigade & fought in the Israeli war of independence. 4. Zionist Jew Ronald S. Lauder was key individual who lobbied for the privatization of the WTC. Lauder has funded a school for the Mossad in Herzliya, Israel. 5. Airline Security Company at BOTH the Boston & Newark airports on 9-11 was a wholly-owned subsidiary of an Israeli company (ICTS). Most employees were ex- Shin Bet Israeli agents. 6. Security at the WTC was run by Kroll Associates, owned by Jules Kroll & Jerome Hauer (BOTH Jews). Hauers mother involved in the creation & maintenance of the State of Israel. 7. Zionist Jew Philip Zelikow (Jewish Dual Citizen of Israel) wrote the fraudulent 9 11 Commission Report. 8. Zionist Jew, Richard Perle, Chairman of Pentagons Defense Policy Board, was expelled from Sen. Henry Jacksons office in the 1970s after NSA caught him passing highly classified documents to Israel. 9. Dual Israeli citizen Michael Chertoff was assistant attorney general for the criminal division of the Justice Department; later, Director of Homeland Security. 10. Israeli messaging service Odigo sent AT LEAST 2 Israelis prior warnings on 9 11, 2 hours prior to attack. Odigo has offices in New York & in Herzliya, Israel. Herzliya happens to be the Head Quarters of Mossad. 11. Zionist Jew Pete Zalewski was the air traffic controller responsible for 2 of the planes on 911 & another plane full of top Pakistani military officials whose plane (Egyptian Fl990) crashed 2 years prior to 911. 12. Israeli Mossad Jews caught & arrested filming & celebrating WTC prior to & after 1st plane hits WTC. Jumping up & down, lighting lighters & holding them up in air. 13. Ted Olsen’s wife supposedly placed an impossible cell phone call from on the plane during 9 11, Ted Olsen was Israeli Spy Jonathon Pollard’s attorney. 14. Israeli Mossad Jews caught with explosives near George Washington Bridge on 9 11. 15. Zionist Jew Alan D. Ratners Metals Management merged with the SIMS group & the Hugo Neu Corporation & sold over 50,000 tons of crime scene evidence. 16. Over 60 Israeli spies arrested on 9 11 & days afterwards. 17. Zionist Jew Adam Pearlman is the AlQaeda spokesman. Lived with grandfather prior to joining AlQaeda, grandfather on board of ADL & huge Israeli supporter. His father helped run the Hippie Movement in SoCal then moved family to run a Kosher farm. 18. S.I.T.E. website releases AlQaeda tapes but is owned by an Iraqi Jew who was in Israeli IDF. Her father was an Iraqi Jew & was sentenced to hanging after being caught SPYING FOR ISRAEL in the 1967 war. 19. Zionist Jew Dov Zakheim was CEO of SPC International which developed Remote Control Flying Technology & leases Boeing 767 refuel tankers, the same planes used on 9 11. He also authored PNAC & was Comptroller of Pentagon when $2.3 Trillion went missing. 20. According to FBI, in the Year 2000 Israeli Mossad had penetrated secret communications throughout the Clinton administration, even Presidential phone lines. 21. After 9 11 Israeli Prime Minister Sharon said: We Jews own America & the Americans know it. 22. Popular Mechanics so-called (Debunking 9 11 Lies) article had as its senior researcher Benjamin Chertoff, the cousin of Dept of Homeland Security Head Michael Chertoff at the time, Israeli dual citizen. 23. Israeli Mossad pretends to be Al Qaeda in Palestine but is caught by the Palestinian Authority in 2002. 24. October 10, 2001 (2) Israelis arrested inside Mexican Congress building with explosives, detonators & guns. 25. November 2, 2001: FBI Fury As Israeli citizens With US Nuke Plans & Valid Israeli Passports Escape custody. 26. Israeli citizen Philip Zelikow led the 9 11 Commission Report. 27. US Army released on 10 Sept 2001 a study on Israel, which said: Of the MOSSAD, the Israeli intelligence service, the SAMS Army Officers say: Wildcard. Ruthless & cunning. Has capability to target U.S. forces & make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act. 28. Israeli Mossad Motto: “By way of Deception, thou shalt do war.” (Motto Removed prior to 9 11). 29. Bin Laden constantly denied committing 9 11, until 4 days before the 2004 election. Video considered fake. 30. Ehud Barak, the prime minister of Israel until March of 2001, came to the U.S. shortly after leaving office. He came, ostensibly, to work as a special advisor for Electronic Data Systems and as a consultant with SCP Partners, a Mossad-run private equity company focused on “security related” work. SCP Partners did business with Metallurg Holding, Inc., as well as Advanced Metallurgical Group, both sharing the same Wayne, PA address. AMG specializes in the production of the same super-thermite used to collapse the three skyscrapers on 9/11.
Thank you, jordan… Stucky will appreciate the new information.
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This was a comment in error. Now that I’ve moved it to where it goes, nothing to do but punt.
Maggie, if you had time to modify it, you had time to delete it.
And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know you’re going to fall
Tell ’em a hookah-smoking caterpillar
Has given you the call
Call Alice
When she was just small
When the men on the chessboard
Get up and tell you where to go
And you’ve just had some kind of mushroom
And your mind is moving low
Go ask Alice
I think she’ll know
A hookah smoking caterpillar?
So, Jo dan believes that someone timed it perfect for planes to be hijacked, towers to be hit, for massive flames to spread to B7, that enormous crews were secretly at play laying explosives, that B7 was allowed to burn for hours, that the NE corner of B7 was somehow encouraged to buckle for some hours as clearly seen in photos, and only then did those evil bastards decide to bring B7 down.
Man, right there is some unbelievable bullshit. I would love to have you clowns as customers. I could sell you cowpie and call it icecream.
Llpoh.
Shyam Sunder flat out lied when he said there was “no testimony of explosions nor any video or audio recording of explosions” as there were numerous testimonies and recordings. Why would he say something that is demonstrably false if his mission is to discover the truth?
What do you think was the cause of the explosive reports caught on that tape?
Here is a short video that concentrates on those sounds alone, no superfluous BS.
I would be very grateful to hear your assessment regardless of what it may be.
I also want you to recall that one of the hijacked planes was taken over by the passengers and crashed in western Pennsylvania- perhaps it was bound for WTC7?
HSF – The sounds could have been beams giving way, at a wild guess. Or concrete collapsing. Who knows? Buildings collapsing would make a hell of lot of noise. Maybe massive failure of welds or rivets coming apart all at once could cause tremendous noise. But the fact is the NE corner of the building was buckling for some time, leading people to surmise it was going down. Photos of it buckling exist. And it was seriously in trouble in those photos. Based on them, even an amatuer like me could see it was likely to collapse.
Re where the plane was headed – my guess is Disneyland. As valid as any other WAG. No one knows.
Re the video – it is as suspect as anything else out there. Lots of agendas at work. There is a lot of info here:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/9-11
I wasn’t suggesting that the plane was headed there, only that the possibility of it would have accounted for everyone seeming to “know” that the building was “coming down” or that it had before it did-(see the numerous media clips) and no one I know has ever suggested that “enormous teams were secretly at play laying explosives” that day- that could easily have been done well in advance by a very small team as part of the plot.
I get the feeling that you responded to the question without actually listening to the video- clearly it wasn’t anything other than an explosion I’m just curious as to why the man charged with investigating the possible cause of the collapse blatantly lied about the presence of testimony or recordings.
You didn’t address that.
And I am counting on the response of the sober, ethical and well reasoned Llpoh, not the knee jerk version.
HSF- Those Israeli art students spent two years in safety buckets outside the WTC1 and 2 towers with electronic component boxes ………remember? There was a NYT article SHOWING them in the safety bucket working on the exterior of the towers, they even had construction passes.
There are literally thousands of bits of information like that, but all of it is conjecture. The crime scene was destroyed almost immediately after the fact, the evidence shipped off to Asia and the people responsible for protecting the buildings, citizens and skies over our nation promoted and rewarded for their catastrophic failure to do their duty. Nothing is going to be resolved on that front. Not ever.
A man, swearing under oath to information that is demonstrably false is another matter.
Shayam Sunder- among others- gave false testimony on the record and can be called to account for his crimes if the time ever comes where the law is enforced. I do not suspect that will happen under the current regime, but it is the best evidence of wrong doing we have at this point and anyone with two eyeballs and a heartbeat can see it for themselves. They can choose to dismiss it if it causes them some kind of cognitive dissonance- that is everyone’s prerogative- but it doesn’t diminish the factual basis of the evidence.
Jordan has a handy list of facts. The Israeli’s
have an agenda, and plenty of others in the
USA are happy to go along with it.
This isn’t a fact, but a guess, = a couple of
suitcase nukes, in addition to hundreds of
“charges” set (cut the beams) seem likely.
That might be evident by hearing accounts of
people emerging from the basement levels with
their skin (all video scrubbed but I saw it)
sloughing off in long shreds peeling away.
And didn’t the towers contain huge gold vaults?
Weren’t there accounts of processions of heavy
armored trucks exiting from parking ramps?
We have been played and those involved are
still laughing their asses off 16 years later.
What did “we” get? A police state providing
cover for the perps, and continuous war, theft,
and ever growing tyranny. Now that the perps
have confirmed our inferiority/stupidity they
have doubled down on 19 ways to kill us all.
FWIW, I really am not just stirring or churning the pot. I really do want to KNOW.
It’s a rabbits hole and you are NEVER going to get the answers.
What you can do is use your best judgement, take the knowledge you gain from your research and live your life as a symbolic reproach to the kinds of people and acts that make up the opposition.
In a much larger sense there are only two things in life worth knowing for certain; there is creation (life) and there is destruction (death) and it comes for the wicked and the just alike. It is no different on the micro level, from individual cells to individual beings right on up to the macro level of cultures and species and nothing we do will ever alter that fundamental reality.
Choose life.