If You Can’t Beat ‘Em . . . Ban ‘Em

Guest Post by Eric Peters

Since they can’t sell electric cars – not enough of them, anyhow – and not without subsidies so huge they amount to outright bribes – the solution appears to be to outlaw all cars except electric cars.

This is no joke.

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There are IC engine No Go Zones in Germany and France. The Brits have just decreed a ban on the sale of internal combustion-engined vehicles period, beginning in 2040 – which sounds like a long time from now but isn’t – because car companies begin designing cars about ten years before they see the light of production and so this fatwa means the car companies are on notice that the current generation of cars they are selling is either the last or the second-to-last generation of cars they will be selling . . . at least insofar as they are powered by internal combustion.

And so, they won’t be wasting resources to design and build the next generation.

It’s not just Britain, either.

If it were, the madness could be contained. Instead, the madness metastasizes. India (well, the government of India) wants all IC engined cars off the road – or retrofitted with electric drivetrains – by 2030, which is only about ten years away and so just over the horizon as far as product planning cycles go.

And now the commissars in China have announced they are all in . . . or out – depending on your point of view. The world’s largest market for cars and the world’s largest manufacturer of cars.

Same 2030 extinction-by-decree date.

That is comment worthy.

More than a century ago, it was not necessary for any government to decree that horses and buggies – and the first electric cars, for that matter – will be verboten henceforth.

They died a natural death – a free market death.

Internal combustion proved superior. Economically and functionally better than horse (and electric) power. People gave up their buggies and their equines freely, without being “nudged.”

They didn’t have to be.

Now, they do.

This ought to raise questions and probably does among the Thinking – but such questions are rarely given voice and answered even less often.

If electric cars are so functionally fabulous, so superior to the Judas Goated internal combustion-powered car, then how come the bans? Why not let the electric car succeed on the merits, organically?

The answer, of course, is that it can’t.

Not yet – maybe not ever.

It’s obvious to anyone who does the math – the EV buy-in cost vs. the cost of gas for an otherwise similar IC-engined car. It doesn’t add up, not favorably, anyhow. There is a reason why arch crony capitalist and rent-seeking kingpin Elon Musk builds electric cars that are quick and sexy and laden with gadgets. It is to shove the economic inferiority of the things under the rug. And if they aren’t economically superior to cars powered by gas and diesel engines well – why bother?

Isn’t it like paying people to build – and buy Porsches?

Startling that this doesn’t grate more than it ought to among the taxpaying masses – who are paying for the subsidized rich to drive around in subsidized rich people’s cars.

Meanwhile, the cars they drive – the ones they can afford to drive – are being regulated and legislated out of existence.

No one talks about the Recharge Issue, either – and it’s a huge issue. Unless you believe that having to wait a minimum of 30-45 minutes every 100 miles or so to feed a partial (80 percent) charge back into the batteries is acceptable or logistically feasible. Imagine hundreds of thousands of EVs queuing up to charge up at the same time.

Imagine what this will do to the grid.

Imagine what would happen in the event you – and hundreds of thousands of other people with battery-powered cars – had to suddenly and unexpectedly get going and get far. As in the case of a hurricane barreling down on the state. No time to wait 30-45 minutes and you need to be able to move hundreds of miles down the road, without having to stop and queue up for 30-45 minutes with hundreds of thousands of other people.

It’s crazier than the combined contents of St. Elizabeth’s Hospital in DC – the nuthouse where they kept lovesick John Hinckley, among others less famous. Which explains why electric cars are not selling, in spite of the subsidies – and despite the quickness and sexiness of some of them.

It is because they are economically and functionally inferior.

Thus, the necessity of banning their functionally and economically superior competition. It has come to this because – all the Breakthrough Talk notwithstanding – the necessary breakthroughs haven’t happened and never may.

What’s happening is a kind of putsch by the technocrats. And – unless these technocrats are exceptionally stupid – they know perfectly well that absent the endlessly promised Breakthroughs that have yet to materialize and never may – electric cars can never be more than the subsidized toys of the affluent and a recipe for national gridlock.

Now think about what that implies.

Yes, exactly.

The object of this exercise – the banning, on the one hand, of economically and functionally viable internal combustion and, on the other, the mandating of extremely pricey and heavily subsidized electric cars – is to reduce mobility. To limit the average person’s ability travel by private car.

It’s not just Britain – or France or Germany and China and India. The push is worldwide and coming to America, too. EV Production quotas and sales mandates are already in effect in states like California. IC No Go Zones and outright bans are surely next.

It sounds hard-to-believe, but the concatenation of facts is hard to ignore.

More than a century ago, technology liberated the average person, expanded his horizons. 100 years down the road, technocracy is bound and determined to reverse that.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
September 12, 2017 2:01 pm

At the rate things are deteriorating in the West now horse, donkey, and ox drawn vehicles may become the norm for average people again by 2040.

Flying Monkey
Flying Monkey
September 12, 2017 2:06 pm

I actually live in Germany. Most decent size cities have had auto free zones for years…they are called “Fußgängerzone” or better known as pedestrian zones. 😉

There is talk to ban IC’s from towns like some parts of Stuttgart, but right now it is just talk. Stuttgart is at the bottom of a valley and is hard to “air out”.

I may behind the times living here but I don’t think the IC is actually banned. I could be wrong, it would not be the first time. I googled “autofrei” and such and got no hits. I can always be wrong. Maybe the author could cite some cities that ban IC’s yet let EVs go in.

I can ride my bike almost everywhere and it is quicker and parking is easier and cost free. Auto ownership can be a real pain in a big German city. I just sold mine ad have no plans to get another.wzsas A bike is good since the population densities are high and you don’t have to ride though endless suburbia.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Flying Monkey
September 12, 2017 4:19 pm

If you need me to come over there and help make some new Germans, just let me know. [imgcomment image?resize=700%2C467&ssl=1[/img]

zelmer
zelmer
September 12, 2017 2:09 pm

Well then people will just have to install gas generators in the trunk of their electric cars so they keep ’em charged for long trips!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  zelmer
September 12, 2017 2:20 pm

2 stroke no less!

AC
AC
  zelmer
September 12, 2017 3:51 pm

I’ve joked about it in the past, but it may be that the next growth industry is going to be prime-power diesel generators and fuel tanks mounted on trailers, to power your POS electric car.

There probably will be a black market niche for people that gut the electric vehicles, and secretly install turbo diesel drive trains in them.

GilbertS
GilbertS
  AC
September 12, 2017 5:31 pm

Fuck that shit, make it an un-filtered soft coal-burning steam engine so you do EXTRA damage to the environment.

The more these ecofags try to control us, the more I feel inclined to do the opposite. I know I’m not the only contrarian out there. I believe in having clean air and water, too, but the more they try to fuck with me, the more I’m inclined to spite them.

We made a strategic decision in 2008 when the economy tanked and fuel was through the roof to get a hybrid. It made sense because we did a lot of commuting in bumper-to-bumper traffic and the local govt gave us access to the HOV lanes during rush hour. Since then, the govt decided they dont’ like hybrids, after all, because they’re not getting enough in gas taxes. They’ve eliminated the HOV exception and we will not replace our aging hybrid when it dies. Even better, soon they’ll eliminate the HOV lanes entirely to replace them with a bullshit privately-operated smart highway sold to the highest-bribing bidder. I refuse to pay to drive on roads I already paid for with my taxes, so I guess I’ll be going around.

Our experience has been hybrids are fine and dandy when they’re working, but they’re overly-complex, what with having 2 separate motors to worry about, and when they fail, they fail big time. Once, we had a little tiny fan burn out. Like the fabled horseshoe nail, this fan allowed a wiring harness to overheat and fail, which let another system fail, which led to the battery system overheating and shutting down on a road trip. We limped all the way home 20 miles with a stop to cool down every half mile, or so, for 5-20 minutes each time. THe IC engine worked just fine, but it was still connected to the battery system, which wouldn’t allow it to run if the battery system took a shit. It was an expensive fix, but still worth repairing at the time. Next time, to the junkyard with it and a replacement with some evil gas-guzzling SUV that will run.

Dutchman
Dutchman
September 12, 2017 2:11 pm

I can ride my bike almost everywhere and it is quicker and parking is easier and cost free.

You fucking faggot!

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  Dutchman
September 12, 2017 2:31 pm

Annnd… welcome to The Burning Platform.

Flying Monkey
Flying Monkey
  Dutchman
September 12, 2017 2:48 pm

Who cares what Dutchman thinks. Rather childish. He was probably raised by wolves.

I’m lazy and biking is easier and faster. It is one less fixed cost and less anxiety that something goes wrong. To bad some people are tied to their cars. The have less freedom in my mind.

I’ll have more money in the end for things I want.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Flying Monkey
September 12, 2017 2:55 pm

You biked between TX and WI in a day? Impressive.

Flying Monkey
Flying Monkey
  Anonymous
September 12, 2017 4:54 pm

If that question was directed at me, no I have not biked between TX and WI in a day, but I have biked from LA to Boston in 49 days. (with rests)

Dutchman
Dutchman
  Flying Monkey
September 12, 2017 3:11 pm

WTF Flying Monkey – do you have a job? I mean a serious job (besides dishwasher or queer waiter)? Do you have weather? Grocery Shop?

Here in Minnesota you can’t bike 6 months a year, as much as the northern climates.

Jack asses on bikes riding the wrong way, no stopping at stop lights, riding on the sidewalk, riding at night with no reflector or light, or the morons trying to ride downtown at rush hour.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Dutchman
September 12, 2017 4:36 pm

Here in Minnesota, people can and do bike all year ’round. What do you think those ridiculously fat tires are for?

Then I guess Herr Dutchman can’t handle a little snow.

Flying Monkey
Flying Monkey
  Dutchman
September 12, 2017 4:50 pm

I don’t have a full time job anymore. I am a mechanical engineer. It helps being single. I took a buy out in 2014 and work contract winters to ride them out. I tour on the bike through Europe in the summer. Last year I had 11,000 km. I am close to 9,000 this year.

I rode my bike to work at Bosch 33 km everyday for 10 years or so. I’ve worked contract at Festo two years in Stuttgart by the airport from mid Jan to end of May. I rode my bike about 12 km one way. Both places have showers/locker rooms. On the real nasty days I took the car. I had spike tires for the winter. They were real good.

The route I took was relativity safe since it was mostly away from the roads. I have a good LED driven front and backlight and a hub dynamo. You got to have good stuff and not the 6 Euro Aldi battery powered stuff. I even made a small LED helmet light so I could be seen more easily with parked cars (they can block the lights) Being seen is key.

The infrastructure and and everything associated with bike commuting is quite different from what you will find in the states. There are usually separate bike paths and lanes. Germany is relatively mild due to the gulf stream warming even though it is a 50 deg North. The worst is -10C or 12F. With global warming it makes it just a bit more tolerable every year. 😉

If you are on Fakebook here is some photos of my commute to Bosch I took. For me the situation was nearly ideal. It gave me so much time to think. For 40 minutes more I did not have to sit in the car. It was a great stress reliever.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.405128764221.179161.716489221&type=1&l=d316476e0e

To commute in the states takes real balls. The risks and environment are so much more intense.

I agree with you on the Jackass bikers in the states. I’ve found that the road bikers (racing bike) types are the worst. I hate them too. They think they are special and can break all the rules. In Germany if a bike path meets certain requirements then you are required to ride there. The Pussy road bikers can ride on the street and increase their probability of being taken out by a car because there are special rules for the road bikes. The bikers who get killed are road bikers or old ladies falling off their bikes and hitting there heads. The old ladies don’t wear helmets. I always do.

You have to appreciate the fact that the Germans are a bit more orderly and don’t do stuff as half assed as the Americans. Ass holes still run lights. I am in no hurry so follow traffic rules.

The grocery store (Lidl, there are two) both are 1.8 km away. I use a back pack and end up going more often.

E- Cargo bike rentals are the latest thing here for moving lots of stuff if you have no car or friends with cars.

GilbertS
GilbertS
  Flying Monkey
September 12, 2017 5:39 pm

Whatever. Your opinion is baloney. Call me when you need to commute 40 miles a day 1 way and show up to work in a timely manner dressed professionally. Your little bike isn’t going to do it, especially in the weather I get.

Don’t give me bullshit about public transit, either, because it doesn’t go where you want to go, doesn’t get there in a timely manner, isn’t even reliable on a day-to-day basis, and the folks who ride public transit aren’t folks you want to hang out with on your way to work. Plus, it costs a lot more than what I can do with my own arrangements.

OH, and, try to figure out moving kids, groceries, and furniture with your bike, getting dinner for the family, and running cross-town to get drycleaning or banking done.
Of course you’re a single dude riding a bike.

Dutchman
Dutchman
  Flying Monkey
September 12, 2017 7:42 pm

I tour on the bike through Europe in the summer.

With global warming it makes it just a bit more tolerable every year

I told you he was a faggot.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Dutchman
September 12, 2017 9:07 pm

In Oz the fucking faggot bikers ride in motherfucking packs of dozens. Motherfuckers. On the roads. They clog up the streets, that the car owners pay for. Every so often a car driver loses it and plows through a few. The crowds cheer! Fucking bikers. In packs like the damn Tour de Frog. I hates them.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Flying Monkey
September 12, 2017 4:25 pm

1) How do you haul your kids on your bike?
2) How do you haul a sheet of plywood?
3) How do you haul a big bag full of pork ribs
4) How do you exchange a propane tank for your gas grill?
5) Can you fit your tampons in your purse?

Dutchman
Dutchman
  Iska Waran
September 12, 2017 4:34 pm

When you’re a bike rider – all you have to do is ride to SBUX and Chilpolte. Then to the co-op for 100% organic radishes and avocados.

starfcker
starfcker
  Iska Waran
September 12, 2017 4:41 pm

“Can you fit your tampons in your purse?” Flying monkey stock posts a steep decline

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  Flying Monkey
September 12, 2017 4:38 pm

“He was probably raised by wolves.”

Well,

He’s from Minnesota so I suppose it’s possible.

Probably the point is that in this part of the world being without a vehicle would be hugely impractical. I can’t imagine life without my 4×4’s. I have an urban and off road version that I switch out depending on the time of year and where I’m headed. I mean, if all you got is a bike what do you do with your deer after you shoot them? Do you have a cart??

Cricket
Cricket
  Flying Monkey
September 12, 2017 4:48 pm

You sound like the smell-their-own-farts jerks from Toronto who brag they don’t own a car, vote in socialist/communists to rule over us and spend us into oblivion, and then put their noses up at me and demand suburbanites like me pay for their public transit. These same city slicker bike riding creeps ruin my community every weekend in the summer with their ‘Tour de France’ pelotons on the rural roads, coming out from the city to ‘ride in the country’ on their expensive bicycles and lycra dorky pants bike riding outfits.

I like my detached house, the spaces between me and my neighbours, my car and my motorbike (why pedal when you could drive). I don’t need more money; I need more time, and more space between me and my neighbours. I also just want to mind my own business and be left alone, but increasingly know-nothing do-gooders keep encroaching on me and my family, hectoring us for doing it wrong, despite no demonstrated competences of their own.

If electric cars are so awesome, how come when the government subsidies are taken away, sales of electric cars quickly approach zero?

kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
September 12, 2017 2:27 pm

If they ban vehicles in major cities, how do the supplies get to the stores?

Should I start a ‘honey wagon’ business?

Dutchman
Dutchman

Germany never stops making bad decisions. They have been so brainwashed from their Nazi guilt they have completely swung the other way.

Flying Monkey
Flying Monkey
  Dutchman
September 12, 2017 5:19 pm

Yes, I agree the migration thing was real bad decision. They will regret that one. when the Musi’s take over. What is hard to believe is that Germany is paying for their invasion.

On one hand they are really gullible but on the other so is the US, just in other ways. Both throw money down the toilet like crazy. At least you don’t get butt raped going to the doctor here. I credit all the cycling with keeping me fit and away from the doctors.

What Germany throws down the toilet on their social system and the migrants, the US spends on needless wars, military and corruption.

It is really not that expensive being single where I live (Saarbrücken) one can get a good assortment of fresh vegetables in the winter as they all come up from Spain. Food in the winter is maybe 1/2 the cost of the US in the winter. I always buy broccoli and get 500 gram for under 99 Euro cent or about $1.20 right now. I shudder at the costs in dollars every time I come home at Christmas. I can live on lower expenses in Germany than in the US. My neighbor took my garage and that brought my rent down to 300. I pay 395 in health care to the Krankenkasse and only because I worked and made decent money. If I don’t work I pay 160 Euro month for my premiums. The premiums for a self employed person are about 15% of pay up to 8000 per year. If you work for somebody else then it is about 7.5% like SS in the states. Paying the Krankenkasse makes your health care portable and you can take from employer to employer.

The people are a bit more rational here. There are more crazy people in the states.

Stucky
Stucky
  Flying Monkey
September 12, 2017 6:58 pm

Flying monkey

Enjoy your mooslim masters in a decade, or so. You can ride your bikey to the local beheadings.

BL
BL
  Stucky
September 12, 2017 7:12 pm

I’m going with the car that runs on salt water. 920 HP

BL
BL
  BL
September 12, 2017 7:26 pm

Or maybe the car you only fill up once every 100 years. Thorium powered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lQTuvUJdAA

BL
BL
  BL
September 12, 2017 7:41 pm

Or the VW Mag-Lev for city driving. Look ma no tires………….
skip to 2:07 for this car to begin.

Flying Monkey
Flying Monkey
  Stucky
September 13, 2017 4:25 am

Stucky you to can enjoy the corporate masters sucking your freedoms and money out living in a police state. The medical system is doing a nice job with the help of the politicians to suck the money out of people. I would rather have an incident with a German cop than a “cowboy” American cop. Look at the looters in Florida from the hurricane. We have the migrant Musi’s but you have the illiterate welfare class breeding at unprecedented rates. At least I live in a low population density area where the mobs will be smaller. Hardly any one is going to escape the coming hurricane. You have to pick your poison as far as I see it.

It is interesting to listen to all the know it all’s here. After listening to a lot of Jordan Peterson, twice, in August (while riding my bike off road in the beautiful French country side of Lorraine), at least I have the humility to not imply I know it all.

For my situation I have it ideal. It would be unsuitable for others. Everybody needs to find there own ideal situation. I live well below my means. I keep my life uncomplicated and I can enjoy a little bit now since I sacrificed and have no debts. I am reaping what I have sowed. I can earn lots of $’s as an engineer in the ultra complex economy and live fine and inexpensively in the non-complex society. I just have to be concerned the Government is not real successful in debasing the currency though. I was an Eagle Scout so I am pretty adaptable. You know…Be Prepared and all….Don’t let your environment rule you if possible. At least I see it easier to control my environment here as in the states.

I am a swimmer and I know not to swim against the tide or current. You swim with it but maybe off to the side. Nobody gets out of this alive but some will figure out a better way for them until the end comes.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Flying Monkey
September 13, 2017 12:53 am

Flying Monkey, You’re a pretty good sport for a fag. Sounds like an enjoyable life if you can avoid being killed by terrorists. What’s up with these Deutsche Frauen who don’t want to get impregnated? They need to help out the Vaterland.

Robert (QSLV)
Robert (QSLV)
  Iska Waran
September 13, 2017 10:22 am

They prefer Muzzies

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Robert (QSLV)

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
September 12, 2017 2:55 pm

When EV’s can store enough energy for me to make a 300 mile trip, in my EV truck, pulling my boat to and from the lake or Galveston (has to be able to handle a little saltwater exposure) I may be interested. Now that brings on another thought: Will it be mandated that I can no longer have an outboard motor? Will I have to have a huge boat just to carry the battery weight and a huger electric truck for the same reason? Will there be recharge stations at the boat ramps? People get pissed enough when having to wait for some amatuer to learn how to back a trailer down the ramp as it is now. Imagine clogging up the dock to recharge your boat!

starfcker
starfcker
September 12, 2017 3:05 pm

Come on Eric. Tesla hate is fine, but at least get your numbers right. The Tesla model S outsells both the Benz S class, and the 7 series BMW’s by better than 2 to 1, Audi A8 and Lexus LS by better than 4 to 1. Go to your nearest Audi dealer. I guarantee they will get someone to blow you if you buy an A8. Easiest negotiation ever. I know, gun to the head and all that is the only way Tesla sells cars. The Tesla dealer is right on I-95 here, there are always people looking at the cars. And it’s hot out. Do you think a $7500. tax credit that changes the price of a Model S from $110,000 to 102,500 makes that much difference? Tesla offers zero dealer incentives and doesn’t bargain, can’t say that about the other 4 brands. What about the more than 500,000 people who have laid down cash deposits, and are waiting for model 3’s? Gun to the head again? More than 400,000 of them will get ZERO tax credit. ZERO. I could be wrong (but I’m not).

Anonymous
Anonymous
  starfcker
September 12, 2017 3:24 pm

Those are all rich peoples toys, not practical vehicles for average people.

And, FWIW, they’re all pretty nice toys to have if you have that much money for toys.

Philbert Desanex
Philbert Desanex
  starfcker
September 12, 2017 3:58 pm

I don’t think it’s Tesla-hate, maybe Musk-hostility, but more than anything I’d guess Peters simply doesn’t like being coerced in his choices as a consumer in the good ol’ freedom loving USA, particularly like this current example when it’s so baldly counter-intuitive. I’d also guess Peters doesn’t mind or care that Tesla sells more S models than those others you mentioned, but why does the Tesla have a subsidy attached to it in the first place? It would also be interesting to hear your opinion on the proposed banning of IC engines in light of your contention Teslas are selling so well in their market niche, with or without said subsidy. Good idea or not? I’m only asking because you’re so rarely wrong

JIMSKI
JIMSKI
September 12, 2017 3:21 pm

CUE RUSH

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  JIMSKI
September 12, 2017 4:27 pm

Aw Christ!

GilbertS
GilbertS
  JIMSKI
September 12, 2017 5:40 pm

YEAH!

carnac the insignificant
carnac the insignificant
September 12, 2017 5:04 pm

I strip away the old debris, that hides the shining car, a brilliant red barchetta from a better vanished time

Rush circa 1983

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
September 12, 2017 5:11 pm

I had my ragtop at the dealer for service yesterday so to kill time I went into the showroom and looked at the new Dodge STR Hellcat. 707 hp. 0-200 mph speedometer. Only 72,000 k. That car is a huge fuck you pointed out at electric car crowd.

Thank you, Fiat!

Capn Mike
Capn Mike
  Zarathustra
September 12, 2017 7:49 pm

Cars like that make me proud to be an American. (almost)

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  Capn Mike
September 12, 2017 8:58 pm

Mine is a Chrysler 200s hardtop convertible. They stopped making them a couple of years ago but it was at the time called the most american-made convertible available. I really believe someday it will be a collectors item.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Zarathustra
September 12, 2017 9:11 pm

Z’s ragtop – obviously a muzzie woman he is talking about.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  Llpoh
September 12, 2017 9:48 pm

It’s a retractable hardtop actually and you are not very aware.

GilbertS
GilbertS
September 12, 2017 5:43 pm

What about The Last Chase?

I would love to see how the shitty little electric cars will fare in Alaska, which eats inadequate bullshit like that right up.

And I want to know the ecofags’ explanation for how all those toxic heavy metal-filled batteries are better for the environment than coal, natty gas, oil, and nuclear power, which we’ll probably have to invest in to power all their stupid electric battery-powered toy cars.

Realist
Realist
  GilbertS
September 13, 2017 3:54 am

Exactly. How many miles do EV’s get in cold or hot weather, between charge ups? Since EV’s use electrical resistance to produce heat a Minnesota driver wouldn’t even get out of the driveway before the batteries were dead.

Fulton
Fulton
September 12, 2017 7:08 pm

The environmental cost of all those batteries IS a huge, and troubling question mark.

ottomatik
ottomatik
September 12, 2017 7:24 pm

First i have to say its utterly fuckin ridiculous to infer IC cars or all petroleum is not subsidized.
Oil is the most subsidized product on earth.
Subsidized with both cash and blood.
The west is out of oil.
The US has ample coal and NG stocks.
Strategically it might benefit us to move some commuters to EV as most of the oil on earth is buried beneath enimies of the west.
Or fuck it, let us use our military to fill up some fat fucks Explorer to drive to Dairy Queen and get some magnum ass busting blizzard.

Dave
Dave
September 12, 2017 8:32 pm

Those Formula One races are going to be a sight to behold. The six hour pit stops to recharge will give people time to go home for dinner and a movie.

starfcker
starfcker
  Dave
September 13, 2017 12:04 am

Dave, that actually have that. It’s called Formula E. They have two cars, the driver pits to switch cars. Rules & Regulations – Formula E
http://www.fiaformulae.com/en/championship/regulations/

KaD
KaD
September 12, 2017 8:47 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/shortcuts/2017/sep/11/tesla-hurricane-irma-battery-capacity

Some car owners found out the hard way that electric cars have some serious drawbacks. Aside from the fact that they really are not environmentally friendly, they just don’t have the range of gas powered vehicles. Many were stranded on the side of the road because they ran out of power. That is until Tesla gave them a free upgrade. It turns out that many of the cars were handicapped by the factory to use only 75% of their available power. The factory was able to remotely upgrade the vehicles to allow them to continue on.

Greg
Greg
September 12, 2017 10:13 pm

Who wants to own a new vehicle anyway? The auto manufacturers have destroyed their product. I’m seeing a ton of those all terrain vehicle with gobs of horsepower riding along the sides of hi ways here in God’s country and I applaud them. Blue tooth, hackable electronics and who knows what else is a ridiculous example of taking something simple and urinating all over it. They’ll have backlogs of EVs unsold too. Pfft

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
September 12, 2017 10:17 pm

Musk ordered Tesla to “unlock” extra capacity for affected owners in FL during the ‘cane to address the same problem you brought up.
Don’t know about Tesla’s but after about 15K miles, I’m very happy with my Prius Plug-in. Best of both worlds; EV and ICE, averages 66 mpg (and I might hit 80-85 mph at times on the freeway, so that’s not “hypermilling” ), and best of all, the “plug-in” part gives me about 10 miles of pure EV driving, so most of the time on consumer missions around town I don’t use ANY gasoline. And I can’t detect any extra electric bill for charging her up!

Steve
Steve
September 12, 2017 11:40 pm

Sure there is a place for EVs but so many problems. The infrastructure needed will be mindboggling expensive. Mazda has a new IC that will get over 50 mpg. You need to run that Prius over 100000 miles to break even with an IC engine. By then youll need new battery packs etc. Sooo many limitations to EVs.

Realist
Realist
September 13, 2017 3:43 am

Why hasn’t Trump eliminated the subsidy on electric cars in this country?