Charles Manson Dies; The World’s Morbid Fascination Continues

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Charles Manson, the mass-murderer and leader of the “drug-induced flock of followers ” known as the Manson family died aged 83 of natural causes at 8.13pm on Sunday night.

Although his followers committed the seven “Tate-La Bianca” murders in the summer of 1969, Manson was convicted of murder for directing them and was sentenced to death in 1971. He was spared when the death penalty was abolished in California following a supreme court ruling in 1972. Footage of Manson and his female followers in the Manson family have surfaced a number of times over the years as their bids to be released were repeatedly rejected at parole hearings. During a parole hearing in 2012, John Peck, a member of the parole panel, quoted Manson as saying to one of his prison psychologists.

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“I’m special. I’m not like the average inmate. I have spent my life in prison. I have put five people in the grave. I am a very dangerous man.”

Following Manson’s death, a statement was released by the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation which contained the most recent photo.

From the Associated Press.

In the summer of 1969, a scruffy ex-convict with a magnetic hold on young women sent some of his disciples into the night to carry out a series of gruesome killings in Los Angeles. In so doing, Charles Manson became the leering face of evil on front pages across America and rewrote the history of an era. Manson, the hippie cult leader who died of natural causes Sunday at age 83 after nearly half a century behind bars, orchestrated the slayings of pregnant actress Sharon Tate and six other people, butchered at two homes on successive August nights by intruders who scrawled “Pigs” and “Healter Skelter” (sic) in the victims’ blood. The slaughter horrified the world. To many, the collateral damage included the era of peace, love and flower power. The Manson Family killings, along with the bloodshed later that year during a Rolling Stones concert at California’s Altamont Speedway, seemed to expose the violent and drug-riddled underside of the counterculture and sent a shiver of fear through America. “Many people I know in Los Angeles believe that the Sixties ended abruptly on August 9, 1969,” author Joan Didion wrote in her 1979 book “The White Album.”

Manson was every parent’s worst nightmare. The short, shaggy-haired man with hypnotic eyes was a charismatic figure with a talent for turning middle-class youngsters into mass murderers. At a former movie ranch outside Los Angeles, he and his devotees — many of them young runaways who likened him to Jesus Christ — lived commune-style, using drugs and taking part in orgies. Children from privileged backgrounds ate garbage from supermarket trash. “These children that come at you with knives, they are your children. You taught them; I didn’t teach them. I just tried to help them stand up,” he said in a courtroom soliloquy.

Fear swept the city after a maid reporting for work ran screaming from the elegant home where Tate lived with her husband, “Rosemary’s Baby” director Roman Polanski. Scattered around the estate were blood-soaked bodies. The beautiful 26-year-old actress, who was 8½ months pregnant, was stabbed and hung from a rafter in her living room. Also killed were Abigail Folger, heiress to a coffee fortune; Polish film director Voityck Frykowksi; Steven Parent, a friend of the estate’s caretaker; and celebrity hairdresser Jay Sebring, killed by Manson follower Charles “Tex” Watson, who announced his arrival by saying: “I am the devil, and I’m here to do the devil’s work.” The next night, wealthy grocer Leno LaBianca and his wife, Rosemary, were stabbed to death in their home in another neighborhood. Manson was arrested three months later.

The rationale for Manson’ murder spree has been much discussed in the intervening 48 years. The most colourful explanation is that he believed that the lyrics in the Beatles’ White Album, notably the song “Helter Skelter”, were directing him to start a race war in America. Helter Skelter is also the name of the best-selling book about the Manson family murders written by his prosecutor, Vincent Bugliosi. An alternative explanation is that he was angry with society when, unlike the Beatles, he was denied a recording contract. Manson’s background was undoubtedly a contributing factor as AP continues:

Manson’s childhood was a blueprint for a life of crime. He was born in Cincinnati on Nov. 12, 1934, to a teenager, possibly a prostitute. When he was 5, his mother went to prison for armed robbery. By the time he was 8, he was in reform school. He spent years in and out of penal institutions. “My father is the jailhouse. My father is your system,” he said in a monologue on the witness stand. “I am only what you made me. I am only a reflection of you.”

Manson’s chaotic trial in 1970 transformed a courtroom into a theater of the absurd. He and three female followers, Susan Atkins, Patricia Krenwinkel and Leslie Van Houten, sang and chanted, and Manson at one point launched himself across the counsel table at the judge. Many of his followers camped outside the courthouse, threatening to immolate themselves if he was convicted. When Manson carved an “X″ in his forehead, his co-defendants did the same, saying they were “Xed out of society.” He later changed his “X″ to a swastika. Despite the overwhelming evidence, he maintained his innocence. “I have killed no one, and I have ordered no one to be killed,” Manson said.

Manson’s wild-eyed stare and the brutality of the murders have sustained a morbid fascination for people in the US and around the world. This is from the New York Times.

The Tate-LaBianca killings and the seven-month trial that followed were the subjects of fevered news coverage. To a frightened, mesmerized public, the murders, with their undercurrents of sex, drugs, rock ’n’ roll and Satanism, seemed the depraved logical extension of the anti-establishment, do-your-own-thing ethos that helped define the ’60s. Since then, the Manson family has occupied a dark, persistent place in American culture — and American commerce. It has inspired, among other things, pop songs, an opera, films, a host of internet fan sites, T-shirts, children’s wear and half the stage name of the rock musician Marilyn Manson.

This is AP’s take on the same issue.

The Manson case, to this day, remains one of the most chilling in crime history,” prominent criminal justice reporter Theo Wilson wrote in her 1998 memoir, “Headline Justice: Inside the Courtroom — The Country’s Most Controversial Trials.”

 

“Even people who were not yet born when the murders took place,” Wilson wrote, “know the name Charles Manson, and shudder.”

We suspect that now he’s dead, the fascination with Charles Manson and the “Tate-La Bianca” killings is not going to diminish, far from it. At its heart, people still want an answer to the question “why?”.

The New York Times summed it up this way: “Throughout the decades since, Mr. Manson has remained an enigma. Was he a paranoid schizophrenic, as some observers have suggested? Was he a sociopath, devoid of human feeling? Was he a charismatic guru, as his followers once believed and his fans seemingly still do? Or was he simply flotsam, a man whose life, The New York Times wrote in 1970, “stands as a monument to parental neglect and the failure of the public correctional system.”

 

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MarshRabbit
MarshRabbit
November 20, 2017 7:02 am

I’m pretty sure Helter Skelter was just something they talked about when they were stoned; the true motive was much darker. Manson send Bobby Beausoleil, Susan Atkins, and Mary Brunner to collect a debt from musician Gary Hinman. Hinman was murdered and they wrote “Political Piggy” in blood on the wall. The grafitti was a lame attempt to mislead cops, hoping they would blame the killing on a radical political group. The scheme fell apart when Beausoleil was arrested while passed out in Hinman’s car. It has been suggested, and I concur, the Tate-La Bianca Murders were a cold-blooded attempt to fool the cops into believeing the “political” killers were still on the loose, and thus spring Beausoleil. If this is the case, then Manson et al saw those lives as expendable to get a friend out of jail.

Maggie
Maggie
  MarshRabbit
November 20, 2017 7:18 am

MarshRabbit… I believe you are correct. If so, it really is banal.

http://www.cielodrive.com/gary-hinman.php

Maggie
Maggie
November 20, 2017 7:13 am

What is that much loved philosophical phrase? Something about the banality of evil.

Well, there’s the other phrase about evil? Something about the root of all evil.

Oh, well, perhaps I’ll come up with one of them before I go out to check bunnies.

Maggie
Maggie
November 20, 2017 7:21 am

And not only is it banal, it also can be tracked back to that other thing, where Charlie decided that if any shaman was going to get his hands on that nice stuff, it might as well be him and not some Japanese guru.

And that is how my mind works, folks. No magic here, just a 56 year old woman in the sticks thinking back through the things I actually saw happen in my life, applying a few idioms or metaphorical tricks and seeing if I can solve the puzzle.

So, having grown up in countrified drunk-druggie culture, but escaped early to a drug-free life in the USAF and military contracts which had you pee tested to get in so you steered clear of the illegal stuff that couldn’t be tied to a legit prescription, having grown up around people I think Charlie Manson reminds me of! and EGAD, his picture NOW could be that old hillbilly coot that brought me homemade apple wine two years ago. I am not kidding. The guy and his son cut down an old tree for me and I made them chicken and dumplings. He had too many roosters that first spring I was here and I slaughtered and canned them on the thirds with him. He ended up with 7 quarts of chicken and a gallon tub of chicken and dumplings.

Well, in either case… Charlie’s or the bad mesc trade, The banality of evil is the covet of money. Because what do we do when we love something, Clarice? We covet it.

Boy, that Hannibal Lecter was one nasty dude. I imagine Charlie to be very much like him.

RiNS
RiNS
November 20, 2017 7:47 am

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http://people.com/crime/charles-manson-dead-sharon-tate-sister-debra-reaction/

Sharon Tate’s sister prayed for Manson’s soul. Does that mean he now gets to go to heaven?
Would it fair to victims to allow him entry if he did repent on his deathbed?
Was he evil or mentally ill?
If God loves all his people, why would he mess with this man’s mind?
Why would he willingly send him on his murderous ways?

Maggie
Maggie
  RiNS
November 20, 2017 8:00 am

I actually KNOW people who think like Manson regarding life. They are sociopaths and have no feeling of empathy. The narcissist within doesn’t care that you or I are repelled by their behavior.

And, you are so very right. The old grandmother will always give the drug addicted grandson another twenty if he sits by her at church, even if he tried to rape her grandbaby.

unit472/
unit472/
November 20, 2017 8:04 am

I always thought of the early Manson family as a real life version of the “Lord of the Flies” a group of young people, on their own for the first time, come under the sway of an older ex con who could play guitar and speak in riddles ( the only talents necessary to be a ‘guru’ in that era).

What was interesting was the merger of murder and environmentalism. This radical concept, pioneered in 1970 by another crazed hippie in Northern California who murdered a eye doctor and his family as human sacrifices to prevent an earthquake was adopted by Manson and his devotee ‘Squeaky’ Fromme to give a veneer of thought to the mindless Manson cult.

Had Manson had any interest in firearms and taught his followers how to use them Fromme would have bagged Gerald Ford in 1975. She was only a few feet from Ford and pointed a loaded .45 caliber auto at him but had not chambered a round. She wanted to ‘save the redwoods’ and impress her ‘husband’ Manson.

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
November 20, 2017 8:05 am

I read about half that account and reached the who fucking cares point and am wondering how much it cost to have kept this piece of shit alive all these years. Evil? Yeah, but just a scum sucking rat fuck. Leave it to CA to put millions of dollars on everyone’s dime to house, care for medically and feed him.

Wow hypnotic eyes!!!! I’d put a .40 right in his Nazi sign and sleep like a baby.

RiNS
RiNS
  MMinLamesa
November 20, 2017 8:25 am

If he repented.
Would you still do it?
If you still did put a bullet between his eyes.
Would that make you less Christian?

Stucky
Stucky
  RiNS
November 20, 2017 9:31 am

Good questions!

Doesn’t appear as if any are willing to answer. So, I will.

YES! If Manson repented — let me add “truly” repented — then he would go to heaven. Like it, or not, thats how The Program works.

Jeebus even told a parable about how some dude who joins the workforce the last part of the day gets the same wages as the one who worked a full day. Obviously, Jeebus was a Commie. He said the all day workers grumbled about such iniquity. Basically, Jeebs told them to STFU.

Blessings to you upon hearing this Good Woid.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  Stucky
November 20, 2017 9:45 am

Jebus would wash Manson’s feet.

Maggie
Maggie
  Zarathustra
November 20, 2017 7:48 pm

According to a lady named Bathsheba, washing feet sometimes referred to something other than washing feet.

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
  RiNS
November 20, 2017 12:26 pm

I could give a fuck if he repented. He’d still get the .40.

“Would that make you less Christian?” There’s only God that will deal with that. I’m a firm believer in retribution and this sac of pus qualifies.

RiNS
RiNS
  MMinLamesa
November 20, 2017 12:44 pm

He didn’t kill those people. Someone else did… Yeah he did instruct people to do it but just because people treated him as a prophet of sorts should hardly be grounds for this retribution. Besides he spent most of his life locked up. Didn’t he pay his debt? But maybe that is the problem and the underlying fascination with this man. Being a madman with enough charisma to get others to carry out murder makes him particularly dangerous to the status quo.

Maybe Governments and Organized Religions don’t like the competition.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  RiNS
November 20, 2017 6:18 pm

He didn’t have a “debt to society,” he had a debt to the victim’s families…..which he NEVER PAID.

Why do we continue to use that pathetic and completely inappropriate phrase “pay his debt to society”? He did NOT HARM SOCIETY. He personally didn’t hurt any of these victims, but was a co-conspirator in the murders of many. THEY are the ONLY PEOPLE to whom anything is owed – and their families.

Until we stop treating crime as if RETRIBUTION is deserving (especially as carried out by the almighty “state” and start realizing that RESTITUTION is deserving to victims or their surviving families, we are NEVER going to advance as a society, and JUSTICE will NEVER be served.

RiNS
RiNS
  MrLiberty
November 20, 2017 6:43 pm

Man get off your high horse Liberty. So according to you we would all be best served by some sort of Sharia law. Should we go back to stoning people as well..The point I was trying to make is how is what he did any different than Obama and his extra judicial killings. One is sanctioned the other is a crime…thats all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuu9YH7_-T8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPGb4STRfKw

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  RiNS
November 20, 2017 10:45 pm

I fully agree with your comments regarding the fact that he personally didn’t kill anyone but instead commanded others to do his killings – much as our worthless presidents do. I was specifically commenting on the phrase “pay his debt.” My suggestion in favor of RESTITUTION is in NO WAY akin to Sharia or anything of the kind which, by your suggestions in video or in the suggestion of stoning. RESTITUTION involves MONEY, SERVICE, ATONEMENT to one’s victims or their families. That is up to the victim to decide, NOT THE STATE, and RETRIBUTION carried out by the state serves no one. The phrase “pay his debt” is overused, inappropriate, and grossly inaccurate in our modern government prison state. That is all.

RiNS
RiNS
  RiNS
November 21, 2017 12:09 am

Then I guess we don’t need judges anymore.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  RiNS
November 21, 2017 12:15 am

Mr Liberty is all for lynch mobs. I tell you, this country is ready for Sharia law. Mr. Taliberty will save us the need for judges and juries, He want to be judge, jury and executioner.

nkit
nkit
  RiNS
November 21, 2017 12:17 am

Who cares when you have the Russian connection Vasilevskiy, Kucherov, Sergachev, and Namestnikov? They also have this Stamkos kid..He’s pretty good… Victor Hedman…Would not trade him for ANYONE….

Edit.. Bolts are driven after last year.

i forget
i forget
  MrLiberty
November 21, 2017 3:37 pm

MrLiberty’s right. Technology. Not the prison cog in the citizen-industrial-complex (CAFO) threshing machine. Less “sharia” – not more – my sharonas. The debts of trespass are owed to those trespassed upon. There is no debt owed to the both ends against middle “state” – which only pays “itself,” it’s makework minions & it’s wielders. The middle way vis a vis justice is exactly the same as the middle way vis a vis any other good\service.

Mises, 1929: “The middle system of property that is hampered, guided, and regulated by government is in itself contradictory and illogical. Any attempt to introduce it in earnest must lead to a crisis from which either socialism or capitalism alone can emerge. (A Critique of Interventionism)”

The tragedy of the commons is the commons that tragically, & comically, communalizes everything it sees…reflexively…biological determinism…the knack that knockers the wurst over & over & over again. Extruded meat….

Tech decentralization of the market for justice, restitution, liability. Free markets, not monopoly of force authoritarianism (of whatever stripe). Monopolies & cartels & oligolopolies never cut the mustard…but they do make the mustard gas & they do use it on “their own people.” Extruded meat.

What would technologic adjuvants look like? Let your – & the free marketer’s – imaginations run wild.

I’ll just suggest one, at the margin extremis, efficiency\solution. Where justice is deemed to include a death sentence\penalty, then the trespassed against owner of the trespasser – which by its actions is now a thing, property – would be able to sell, or lease the thing, to medical science for experimentation. (That would also contribute much more\better to progress than extrapolations from lab worms & rats.)The owner would be able to have tissues & organs harvested for sale into the free market. Etc.

The consequences of actions decentralized & highest efficiency of repayment\retribution retained by those actually trespassed against…would be justice.

Who’s interested? Not many. Herds don’t think in terms of individuals. Because they are incapable of thinking in terms of individuals. All for one takes good care – the best possible – of one & all. But one for all is what the utilitarian herds “prefer” – they have no free will choice in the matter.

Neither do individualists.

Which is why this is all just mental exercise. Why all this describes what has never been & will almost certainly never be. People, mainly, are not cut out for liberty. Archism, any archism, is the ark that floats the bloat. And anarchism, most are sure, would drown them…especially in lack of recourse for their own envy, authoritarianism\subservience, love of schadenfreude, & other noble attributes.

Dispassionate 3rd parties – as via “blind” institutionalized justice – is a myth. There are only, always, other-passioned (“differently abled”) parties. No way do other-passioned 3rd parties logically or effectively prioritize ahead of the actual parties involved. No way, either, will the myth-loving middle’s nervous systems be educated or otherwise overridden. Unters like being ridden by ubers. Goes to “identity.” Moo-dentity. Mood-ringed nose shackles.

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
  RiNS
November 21, 2017 4:07 am

Please nigga

idahobob
idahobob
November 20, 2017 8:42 am

Well, the upside to all of this is that the state of cali does not need to spend millions keeping this worthless turd alive.

Bob

Stucky
Stucky
November 20, 2017 9:40 am

I’m going with the “bad parenting” theory. A skank ho momma? A prison lifer poppa? Bad start to life. No, I am NOT excusing Swastika Man. Just pondering the “why”.

For the life of me, I can’t understand what women found mesmerizing about him. He was never ever a good looking man, even when he was young. An ugly mogo from the get go.

I find it ridiculous to equate the entire hippie movement with this POS … just because he embraced some of the trimmings, while never grasping the essence. Violent senseless slaughter is not what the hippies were about, man. Can you dig it?

MarshRabbit
MarshRabbit
  Stucky
November 20, 2017 9:59 am

“For the life of me, I can’t understand what women found mesmerizing about him.”. The acid helped, lol.

i forget
i forget
  Stucky
November 20, 2017 3:44 pm

It is ridiculous. But it’s how many minds slosh.

Tom Robbins had a dj gig in ’66. Manson, introducing himself only as Charlie, dropped in one day, wanting to play his guitar, sing, live.

“Even as he mouthed the prevailing hippie philosophy, however, he did it with an articulation that was impressive & an intensity that was nothing short of galvanizing.
The more Charlie talked, the more convinced I became that he not only truly believed that philosophy, he, for one, was actually living it. There was a *purity* about him, a blaze in his eyes, that bordered on the charismatic. I had the sense that hanging out with him would be dangerous: not because he might prove mean, violent, dishonest, or crazier than anybody else i knew, but because he seemed both completely uncompromised & uncompromising. As Henry Miller said of Rimbaud, he was like a man who discovered electricity, but knew absolutely nothing about insulation.”

Little dutch boy thumbing the dike – every leader-follower dyad there ever was.

RiNS
RiNS
November 20, 2017 9:55 am

He does have striking resemblance to another Prophet…

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Anonymous
Anonymous
November 20, 2017 9:57 am

Manson hated Blacks, Jews, the rich, the elite, the police, America in general, wanted to see a race war in America that would kill off all the minorities, twisted and distorted Biblical scripture forming a false religion by taking verses out of context claiming they meant something they didn’t, and never killed anyone.

He was a very misunderstood man. He would have fit in well here.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
November 20, 2017 10:01 am

He was a really wicked bastard. If only he’d been a million times more wicked, he’d have 1.6 billion followers who sniff each others’ asses five times a day and are ready to chop off peoples’ heads at the first opportunity. Piss be upon him.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Iska Waran
November 20, 2017 9:08 pm

Who’s the fucken pansy who is irked that I insulted Mohammed (piss be upon him)? Never mind – I don’t care, but my comment should have gotten 50 thumbs’ ups. Mohammed accomplished more evil than anyone in human history – with the possible exception of Genghis Khan.

Maggie
Maggie
  Iska Waran
November 20, 2017 9:26 pm

Some real assholes around the platform today.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Administrator
November 20, 2017 6:24 pm

Indeed, Obama murdered hundreds of innocents a week with drones and hellfire missiles. Bush similarly orchestrated the murder of thousands more innocents. Same with Nixon, Kissinger, Johnson, Eisenhower, Truman, Clinton, H.W. Bush, Lincoln, McKinley…..and I could go on and on.

And yet they treat Manson as an “aberration” and a “madman.”

“It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.” – Voltaire

“Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices.” – Voltaire

“War is the greatest of all crimes; and yet there is no aggressor who does not color his crime with the pretext of justice.” – Voltaire

SSS
SSS
November 20, 2017 7:53 pm

I have followed the Manson case since its inception and read Vincent Bugliosi’s book “Helter Skelter.” It’s one of the most fascinating crimes ever committed in America. And it planted the seed in my mind, which lay dormant for over 4 decades, about psychotropic drugs.

Just the year prior to the Manson family’s murder spree, LSD was banned for sale in the U.S. as an anti-psychotic drug. And how old were the actual killers? All under 25. And what drug, among others, were they taking? LSD.

Please join me and educate yourself about the dangers of prescribing these drugs to anyone under the age of 25. Excluding the horror of Islam, these drugs are behind nearly every RANDOM mass killing in the U.S.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  SSS
November 20, 2017 10:50 pm

LSD is NOT an anti-psychotic drug. It is a psychedelic. It is not at all related to the types of anti-psychotic drugs bigPharma produces and which have been routinely taken by mass shooters in recent history. Please do not lump this type of drug into that same category. While there are certainly dangers in taking psychedelics, their religious, controlled, and specific use over the centuries is in no way related to the drugs tied to these shooters.

SSS
SSS
  MrLiberty
November 21, 2017 11:26 pm

Read the fucking history of LSD, dickweed. It was sold and marketed as an anti-psychotic.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
November 20, 2017 8:45 pm

Manson was ahead of his time. Knowing what we know now, if Manson ordered a few Hollywood types killed today, he’d become a folk hero. YoBo would try to canonize him if at least one of the victims was Joojoo.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  EL Coyote
November 20, 2017 9:12 pm

Good point. Harvey Weinstein could use a good disemboweling. And that Bryan Singer guy. Total creeper. Where’s Tex when you need him?

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Iska Waran
November 20, 2017 9:30 pm

Iska, the whole world has tilted on its axis. American Portrait 2017:

Putin yes, Trump no.
The Ruskies are our pals now.
Women hold more degrees than males
Blacks drive fancier cars than working stiffs
Today’s minority is a gender confused tranny or a pedophile
Insurance is not a work perk, it’s a right for the unemployed
Gays ok, heteros inapropriate touching (formerly known as making a pass)
There is no free lunch is now, uhm, everything is free, this is the land of the free.
Lifetime marriage is now, stay married until the penis quits and then get a sex change.
Don’t have kids til married is now don’t get married until your kids have moved out and the last welfare check has been cashed.