Ryan Bundy’s Opening Statement Is Something Every Red-Blooded American Should Hear

Hat tip Starfcker

Via Freedom Outpost

Sometimes, in the process of covering so many things and in the attempt to provide as much information and commentary as possible, we simply are not able to provide all that we wish to do so to the public.

However, that does not mean other stories and commentary are not important.  In fact, many things coming out of alternatives media today are vitally important for those coming off the government-controlled media.

One of those items that didn’t hit the mainstream media, and sadly didn’t hit much of the alternative media, was the opening statement of Cliven Bundy’s son, Ryan, as the trial of the century began nearly two weeks ago.

In light of that, I’ve been meaning to post his opening statement because it is certainly on that Americans should familiarize themselves with and quite possibly, should a fair history book be written, may go down in a Patrick Henry-esque fashion.

So, without further ado, here’s Ryan Bundy’s opening statement (H/T Gary Hunt)that was delivered to the jury in the Bundy Ranch trials on November 15, 2017.  Read and remember.

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Thanks to the jurors for being here. I told you a little about myself at voir dire, but I’d like to introduce myself a little more, and tell you about my heritage and how that affects my case. (Projects a picture of his family – AND leaves it up throughout his statement!) [Note: the picture shown above.]

This is my ID! Not my driver’s license. This is who I am, a man with a family and I’ll do whatever it takes to provide for them. I want you to picture in your minds…you’re out on the land… I’ll take you to our ranch, you can see all the beauty of the land, the fresh air, sunsets and sunrises, the brush, you’re on a horse in front of the cattle – place yourself there – feel the freedom – out of the congestion of the cars – that’s how I was raised, playing in the river, we were called river-rats and that is where my life began and I hope ends.

My family has been on that land 141 years, my pioneer ancestors settled there in 1877 – there was nothing there. They carved out a living… they brought a horse and wagon and some provisions… this case, the government mentioned is “not about rights”, but it is – those rights do mean something – rights are created through beneficial use. When my ancestors arrived, undoubtedly the horse would need a drink, so they led him to the water and that is beneficial use. The horse and perhaps a cow that had been led behind the wagon need to eat some brush in the hills, that is beneficial use. That established rights. The water rights are real! So real, the State of Nevada has a water rights registry including livestock watering rights. A law was created to protect those rights. The water rights that my father owns were first registered in 1891 by the State of Nevada – the State of Nevada is important, a sovereign state, its own unit, which entered the union in 1864. It entered equal to the original states, it is its own entity and state laws are important.

My family and I are charged with some grievous things and they are not true and evidence will show they are not; force, manipulation, extortion, violent—my family is not a violent family and I am not a violent man. For 20+ years we turned to local law enforcement. Rights are real property. The fact is that we create government to protect rights.

To have rights you must claim, use and defend… man only has rights he is willing to claim, use and defend. There is a difference between rights and privileges. Rights you own. Privilege is afforded. Like renting or owning a house. Government asserts there are no rights, only privileges and unless we pay, we can’t be there. The State of Nevada says differently. These are my father’s rights. Everything we have comes from the land. That is wealth, not the dollar bill. The things we use all come from the land. Who controls the land, controls the wealth.

 

We create government to preserve and serve us. These are some of the beliefs of my family. That we have said we will do whatever it takes to defend is not a threat, it is a statement. Being right here before you today is part of doing whatever it takes. The Founding Fathers pledged whatever it would take… their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor, to defend rights. With the evidence you will see that is what we were doing; there was no conspiracy to impede, to harm… but, to protect our heritage that our pioneer ancestors established. We were attacked, surrounded by what appeared to be mercenaries, snipers pointed directly at me. You will hear a report from a sniper that he was keeping watch of me in my van, with my wife and two of my daughters with me.

Our ranch – children are always welcome – it is a place to play, play in the river, the pond, chase or hunt rabbits, burn your toes in the hot sand in summer—always free. Never before did we feel like someone was always watching. In early spring of 2014 we felt like someone was always watching… the dogs were watching the hills, when you are always with a dog you get to know what they are saying with their bark… you can tell by their bark what they are seeing… surveillance cameras on one hill, but the dog looking at another and growling… (tearfully) This is not what America is supposed to be. Supposed to be a land of liberty. The Founding Fathers fought and bled so we wouldn’t have to and now we find ourselves in a similar situation.

They say this issue is over grazing fees… it’s terrible, terrible, he must be a freeloader – it’s only rhetoric – I’ll tell you why – You don’t pay rent when you own your home! We own those rights! Not the land, I know we don’t own the land, but access…you and others have rights on that land. We own water and grazing rights. We don’t pay rent for something we own.

The BLM was formed in 1960. Our rights were established in 1877, long before BLM. The original states own 100% of their land and all states were to come in on equal footing. The crux of the issue is,  are we a state or not? They say grazing is a privilege they can revoke and charge fees. If it is only a matter of money it is no problem. In fact, Mr. Whipple showed a copy of a check made out to Clark County. If the whole purpose is to show we owe a fee, then we’ll pay to the proper owner of the land. That was not the only check written to Clark County, we sent several. Also, in Clark County, there were 53 ranchers who owned rights. There is only a single one still out on the range. The BLM is not gaining revenue, it’s not important to them. My father could see they were there to manage him out of business. It’s not about grazing fees. In the BLM office there were signs that read: No more Moo by ‘92 and Cattle Free by ‘93! If it were only about the grazing fees, the fees would have been under $100,000 over 25 years. It is rumored, it may not be seen in evidence, but it is rumored that they spent $6 million on the operation. Who spends that and court costs rumored to be over $100 million to collect $100,000?

What is this about? The court orders. They say my father had an opportunity in the courts. The court wouldn’t consider states rights. They have forgotten they are servants of the people. We the people are the sovereign and ultimately, we the people are the government formed to meet needs that are better met by a group than by individuals. We are not slaves. We need to remember that. I think that’s forgotten. The definition of freedom is lost in America. When we have to have a license or ask permission to do everything, we are subjects.

 

Back to the charges – they claimed I went to Richfield and that the sheriff had to be called because we were causing such a ruckus—evidence will show otherwise—we boycott to influence to change ways – we protest to cause a change – these are first amendment rights – we do not get rights from the Bill of Rights – we have rights to begin with – it should be called the Prohibition of Government – we have freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, we can petition for a redress of grievances—rights we don’t want the government to mess with.

A redress is to find an answer, find a solution – one way to protest. The BLM put up first amendment zones – not much bigger than this courtroom – we called them pig pens – by creating that area, they were denying our right everywhere else – that’s what they used to arrest my brother – he was outside the pig pens. The first amendment has been protected over and over again in our history. There’s lots of media in the gallery today, they wouldn’t be happy to have their right to free speech taken. First amendment was put in the Supreme Law of the land, the Constitution – they shall make no law restricting these things… as you saw in the video yesterday, my brother was not impeding, not blocking, he was on a state road, on its right-of-way, simply to take pictures with his ipad of them stealing our cattle – they attacked him, threw him to the ground, rubbed his face in the ground. (emotional) The American public saw this and came not to impede or do harm. They came because they felt the spirit of the Lord, spirit of freedom and felt “we the people are not going to put up with that behavior”. It was not pointed out there were snipers on the hill, I witnessed that through binoculars and the evidence will show this.

Back to Richfield, Utah, evidence and witness testimony will show there was not a ruckus there that disrupted or shut down that auction. I called the sheriff – that’s the pattern – the local law enforcement and state brand inspectors in Nevada, Arizona and Utah and I had contact with the highway patrol, county commissioners in several counties and state officials – not all face to face, but some through phone calls. Is this what a criminal does? No. We were there protecting life, liberty, property. You saw the video of them hip chucking my Aunt Margaret, 50+ years of and just finished with cancer treatments, the mother of 11 children. They call these BLM guys law enforcement, but they are just BLM employees. All authority comes from we the people, we delegate authority to the county sheriff who we elect and he hires deputies and we then have a sheriff’s department to protect our life, our liberty, our property. Choosing for yourself is freedom and we have no right to impede or harm others. That’s God’s law. Man-made law is to follow that. Man is supposed to be free, not controlled, serfs or slaves. Government is to be our servant. The government went in and shut down 600,000 acres – not one of us ever went into their enclosed area and never impeded them. Even my brother driving into the dump truck… isn’t that impediment? The court order did not allow destruction of water infrastructure. What was a dump truck doing out there? Since that was beyond the scope of the supposed court order, we had a right to know. They could have stopped and answered our questions, but no, they set out attack dogs and tazers and threw Aunt Margaret to the ground. Every incident they are charging us with happened on property that belonged to the State of Nevada. Even if BLM had authority to close public land, they have no authority to close State of Nevada public land. The fence was on the State of Nevada land. Except by invitation, you will not see one of us breach that fence or impede the gather. We did not violate the court order. Dave went over the fence by the invitation of Dan Love and then the sheriff took over and asked for our help to take down the fence and then the cowboys, led by sheriffs squad cars went to release the cattle. The sheriff honored his oath and did his job. He should have done it sooner.

I love my family. I love them. I love this land. I love freedom. I am from the State of Nevada. I’m a true Nevadan. I mentioned before that Nevada became a state on Oct. 31st and we always got out of school on that day… I always thought we got out because it was my birthday. I’m a true Nevadan. I believe you are, too, and love freedom as much as I do. Freedom’s not being lost overseas – it’s lost right here at home in our back yards, our front yards. Until we are willing to do whatever it takes, liberty will be, is being lost. We are not anti-government! Government has its proper place and duties to perform. I want government to do its job. Nothing more. Nothing less. When government does more or less than its job, it becomes the criminal. When government damages our rights, it becomes the criminal. When someone harms or damages another’s life, liberty or property that is the definition of a criminal. Extortion, violence, pointing guns – everything we are charged with, they were doing and thousands of people came running – the world knew about this – China, Ireland (they sent us a flag), New Zealand and other countries – why? Because America stood for freedom and has for years and the world is interested in seeing how America (emotional) will deal with freedom. The world wants to know. The American people said, “yes, we will stand for freedom. Government, you’ve gone too far and we will put a stop to it.”

The courts have a place. It is said that We the People are the fourth branch of government. I say we are the first. The legislature to make laws, the executive to execute laws and the judicial to judge. All three branches are to protect your rights, our rights, freedom, liberty. Government does not have the authority in and of itself – man creates government to fulfill and protect rights. We the people give government the authority through the Constitution. The tenth amendment insures state’s rights.

 

Evidence will show my father and my brothers are innocent men. We need you to put on that paper that we are not guilty. You are the twelve to represent us, peers, equals, people…we the People.

Guns…lots of guns…scary…camo…freedom of speech…also, the right to bear arms, the second amendment…a militia was necessary. What is a militia? It is defined in the law. U.S. Code defines militia: “all able bodied men 17-45 years of age”. How many of you are a member of the militia? State of Nevada extended that and includes men up to the age of 64. How many of you now are a member of the Nevada militia? There is the organized militia, the National Guard and the unorganized militia – everyone else. Why did the Founding Fathers include the second amendment? Was it for duck hunting? No…no! Militia is mentioned six times in the Constitution. Such a small document and few things are mentioned more than the militia; the central government of this union and yet media or whatever wants to put a bad face on militia. Why did militia come to Bundy Ranch? To peacefully assemble, redress of grievances. No one was harmed except Davey, Ammon and Margaret. You will not see in evidence that we ever harmed anyone! They attack and we turned the other cheek. We were peaceful—insistent? Yes! And, Yes! Demanding. These men, these people did not come to seek an opportunity to point guns at the government. Hundreds, even thousands of people we didn’t know. That’s exemplary. These people came to do good. To protect me, to save my life. I had a sniper pointing at me, 200 armed men surrounding my home, my family (tearfully) Ryan Payne has been portrayed as a bad man. Evidence will show otherwise. He saved my life. He saved my life. Others came. I didn’t even meet most of them until I was in jail with them, may have seen them in passing, but I didn’t know them until jail. I honor and thank them now! I thank all who came. We only have rights we are willing to fight for. You’ll see evidence that I was nearly always with the sheriff or a deputy – always in communication with them – I was side-by-side with Lombardo.

Thank you for coming, for being here. I will still do whatever it takes. This is not a threat, it is determination. I love my freedom. Listen to the still small voice to discern between truth and error. The indictment and grand jury testimony is full of lies. Truth has been blocked in previous trials. Listen closely – we will try to get you the truth. The truth will set me free and I’m counting on you to help me see that.

I invite you to our ranch. I recognize your right to use the land. We want you to come and enjoy it. I thank you for this time. Please find me not guilty and these other men not guilty. Stand up for freedom. Thank you.

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Maggie
Maggie

I am only a third in and have shared it with my 12 hillbilly friends and neighbors. What a profound call to arms for some of us!

“To have rights you must claim, use and defend… man only has rights he is willing to claim, use and defend. There is a difference between rights and privileges. Rights you own. Privilege is afforded. Like renting or owning a house. Government asserts there are no rights, only privileges and unless we pay, we can’t be there.”

Nick and I got our annual bill for “tribute” to the government. Having scrimped, saved and made it possible to retire for the last couple decades of our lives, God willing, the tax man calleth for his annual rent payment from Nick and I. Fortunately, we are able to pay it through our lives, if need be, even if the pension dollars stop cyberstrolling into the bank account, kept with only a month or so worth of cash digits in it. However, just because we can pay the tribute NOW doesn’t mean we can pay it in ten years when those vampires in Congress have stolen all the 401K and Pension monies invested in the overbloated stock market to bail out the government unions because, well, “government.”

People have a right to expect the government’s WORD/Rules/Standards to be a Contractual Bond. When the government suddenly gives itself the right to declare a previous law null and void in order to benefit itself, then any contract with the government should be considered suspect. For instance, Property taxes are evil; they are the first EXCUSE for the government to violate every other civil right you have to make sure you pay and pay and pay and pay. About 11 acres of my family’s farm was declared “Protected Swampland” by the CrazyClintonian Power Grab for the Environmental Nutjobs. Many of the big farmers found a way around it. The Federal Environmental Agency (which one? There are freaking DOZENS) administering the 1993 Swampland Act sends men down in hip waders with boats to inspect acreage to verify it is NOT swampland. For $x500 dollars per acre, they will “transfer” those protective restrictions on that farmland to some Mark Twain National Forest area (say, if I was to sell my rights to manage my own timber on my own land to the state for $x500 dollars per acre, the state could pay that to that farmer down in the bootheel. I am not planning to cut down these trees anyway and that farmer does NOT have any swampland, just a few trees around a pond the federal government is calling Swampland (See Mingo Swamp for reference about REAL Southern Missouri Swamp). But the agencies involved in the wheeling and dealing involved in making this loophole around losing high value farmland in the agricultural industry should tell you that all these laws put on the books during the very, very crooked Clinton Administration had long term INTENDED consequences.

Think about that for a second, please. There are always some longterm Unintended Consequences to laws which seemed like good ideas at the time. Disability pensions for people with severe loss of employability due to events not their fault (car accident, serious illness, heroic trip into a fire to rescue BB’s cat) seemed like a good idea for a country about 20 years past the biggest expansion in industrial manufacturing and urban grown known probably to MANKIND. Mankind. Can one of you data droids out there search and deliver to me just how amazing the growth in the number of INDUSTRIES PERIOD during the sixties, when televisions were selling at the rate of 100,000 a day in the United States? How many of you can see the unintended consequences of letting a MEDIUM delivering MESSAGES into your homes and lives, replacing the normal activities of a human animal pursuing his own self-interest. I want you to please try to see that McCluhan was perhaps seeing how the Message delivery system might alter the message.

Perhaps in a “fundamentally transforming way.”

So, now that Disability Pensions have created an industry of leeches to help you falsely GET disability pensions from some other or another aphabet agency in DC where all the monopoly money is printed, how about that good idea about taking care of those truly disabled folks out there? Are there INTENDED longterm consequences someone warned us about?

Back to reading. Very good piece.

WOW. Am back from reading.

“Back to the charges – they claimed I went to Richfield and that the sheriff had to be called because we were causing such a ruckus—evidence will show otherwise—we boycott to influence to change ways – we protest to cause a change – these are first amendment rights – we do not get rights from the Bill of Rights – we have rights to begin with – it should be called the Prohibition of Government – we have freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, we can petition for a redress of grievances—rights we don’t want the government to mess with.

A redress is to find an answer, find a solution – one way to protest. The BLM put up first amendment zones – not much bigger than this courtroom – we called them pig pens – by creating that area, they were denying our right everywhere else – that’s what they used to arrest my brother – he was outside the pig pens. The first amendment has been protected over and over again in our history. There’s lots of media in the gallery today, they wouldn’t be happy to have their right to free speech taken. First amendment was put in the Supreme Law of the land, the Constitution – they shall make no law restricting these things… as you saw in the video yesterday, my brother was not impeding, not blocking, he was on a state road, on its right-of-way, simply to take pictures with his ipad of them stealing our cattle – they attacked him, threw him to the ground, rubbed his face in the ground. (emotional) The American public saw this and came not to impede or do harm. They came because they felt the spirit of the Lord, spirit of freedom and felt “we the people are not going to put up with that behavior”. It was not pointed out there were snipers on the hill, I witnessed that through binoculars and the evidence will show this.”

I really admire this man for putting it all in such a well organized chronological narrative. I feel like he is speaking for my husband and I on our little 40 acres, surrounded by big ranches like the Bundy’s with herds of well-cared-for Angus cattle roaming the pastures and woodlands growing up healthy on grass, tended by dogs and a few human kids and farmers. That is how your food should be created and prepared for processing. Not in those horrid cattle prisons seen in Western Oklahoma, which is close to an Ecological Disaster of Epic Proportion sometime soon. (Perhaps I overreact, but after growing up watching a herd of cattle grazing on clover and fescue grasses, with a few ears of corn as a treat from MY HAND, I can’t stomach the site of those poor cattle lined up eating and crapping all day long without any hope of munching on anything green, much less SEEING anything green. It is just wrong and it makes the meat taste bad.)

So, what is happening with the Bundy’s could very well happen here. All of the livestock owners around here, depend upon the large ponds and lakes on their property to sustain their free ranging livestock. They have laws protecting their use of those “owned” lakes and ponds. The state has its way in, as well. Our little pond in front of the log home is lovely, but inhabited by bullfrogs from decades and decades of NO LIVESTOCK on the place. Without large hordes of flies that hover around piles of cowshit, there is nothing to feed the fish, I guess to help eat the tadpoles to stop the taking over of the pond by the bullfrogs. In the house that Jack built.

What if the Federal Government suddenly decided it owns all the water and will determine who and what has the right to the water in their own facets and tanks, much less the ponds and streams. You may use it but you must pay a tax to use it. And on what LEGAL grounds could the Fed possibly claim. Unless the U.S. Supreme Court is just as corrupt as the rest of the bastards.

Is it possible? Or probable. Unepynomous types might know. Coyotes, not so much.

So, back to reading the statement. While it is true it is not ALL about me, it is also true that it really IS.

Maggie
Maggie

“Guns…lots of guns…scary…camo…freedom of speech…also, the right to bear arms, the second amendment…a militia was necessary. What is a militia? It is defined in the law. U.S. Code defines militia: “all able bodied men 17-45 years of age”. How many of you are a member of the militia? State of Nevada extended that and includes men up to the age of 64. How many of you now are a member of the Nevada militia? There is the organized militia, the National Guard and the unorganized militia – everyone else. Why did the Founding Fathers include the second amendment? Was it for duck hunting? No…no! Militia is mentioned six times in the Constitution. Such a small document and few things are mentioned more than the militia; the central government of this union and yet media or whatever wants to put a bad face on militia. Why did militia come to Bundy Ranch? To peacefully assemble, redress of grievances. No one was harmed except Davey, Ammon and Margaret. You will not see in evidence that we ever harmed anyone! They attack and we turned the other cheek. We were peaceful—insistent? Yes! And, Yes! Demanding. These men, these people did not come to seek an opportunity to point guns at the government. Hundreds, even thousands of people we didn’t know. That’s exemplary. These people came to do good. To protect me, to save my life. I had a sniper pointing at me, 200 armed men surrounding my home, my family (tearfully) Ryan Payne has been portrayed as a bad man. Evidence will show otherwise. He saved my life. He saved my life. Others came. I didn’t even meet most of them until I was in jail with them, may have seen them in passing, but I didn’t know them until jail. I honor and thank them now! I thank all who came. We only have rights we are willing to fight for. You’ll see evidence that I was nearly always with the sheriff or a deputy – always in communication with them – I was side-by-side with Lombardo.”

Do you grasp the IMPORT of this court case? Has the entire American cultural mind been wiped clean of the idea that the last stand of our individual rights will occur against the LAW itself. With the law represented by nameless soldiers wearing shields and masks, demanding the Bundy’s abandon their 1st Amendment rights to petition for redress, being slandered for using their 2nd Amendment rights to protect their livestock, property and family from invasive federal agents targeting them every single day of their lives (Cue Ruby Ridge), and let’s not even talk about search and seizure and public versus private rights when it comes to the Whores of Medialon and their willingness to collude with Congresscritters for Campaign Dollars.

I have a heavy feeling in my stomach. I sense we are seeing the last stand for Ownership and Property rights for individuals, but NOT for Corporate Individuals capable of paying Congresscritters lots of campaign donations and sending lots of funding to the Clinton Foundation, Inc. Those Big Government Contracts, once you sold your soul for them, are impossible to resist.

This is one of the final paragraphs, then I have to get up and fed the bunnies. Seven little bunnies in that ONE mating I shared with you all here at TBP. The doe is a fertile lady and Scrapper is not shooting blanks. We shall have bunnies for deserving children at Christmas. I have several offers. The rest? I will can.

This was one of the closing comments… I found it noteworthy in closing.

“Thank you for coming, for being here. I will still do whatever it takes. This is not a threat, it is determination. I love my freedom. Listen to the still small voice to discern between truth and error. The indictment and grand jury testimony is full of lies. Truth has been blocked in previous trials. Listen closely – we will try to get you the truth. The truth will set me free and I’m counting on you to help me see that.”

This year has been a profound year of change for me. I have returned to the earth in a way I would not have believed possible. I see how corrupted our societal institutions have become, plagued with the “I Deserve A” job, pension, healthcare, abortion, drugs, apartment and neverending rights that feed the legal parasites who advertise daily to help you get what is coming to you for a small retainer fee, that is. I see how fleeting life is and that if you can call a small spot your very own and defend it with all you rightfully have at your disposal, no one should be able to change the rules and take it away from you until they pry it from your cold dead fingers.

Does anyone else get that?

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa

Wow, pretty powerful. I’ll be following what happens.

kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product

Unless Da Judge prohibits certain evidence that aids Bundy, the Jury will vote Not Guilty.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Don’t bet on that.

Outta Aces

When will folks understand that these “judges” are simply appointed federal employees who dress in black robes. They take the king’s shilling, they do the king’s bidding. They’re no more a “judge” than Simon Cowell. Their livelihood depends on rubberstamping the fedgovs positions. When all’s said and done, it falls to “the people” to exact justice via jury nullification.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus

That’s a slander on Simon Cowell….

MarshRabbit
MarshRabbit

He’s in federal court. I wouldn’t give him better than 50:50 odds for an acquittal.

Llpoh
Llpoh

No one wins in fed court. Well, not no one. But conviction rates are around 97%.

MarshRabbit
MarshRabbit

“The function of the law is not to provide justice or to preserve freedom. The function of the law is to keep those who hold power, in power.”
Gerry Spence

Stucky

I wish you were correct.

But, for whom does The Court function? The government!

The deck is stacked against Bundy right from the get go. What percentage of cases does the government win? Guessing here … probably 95% of the time, or more.

I’m rooting strongly for Bundy. But, I wouldn’t bet even twenty bucks on it.

Maggie
Maggie

Don’t you see that once Bundy loses, the government has set that all important precedent: What was once YOURS is now theirs. You once had a right to sleep in your own bed, but now the government has decided all bedding must be inspected nightly by federal agents to prevent infestation of bedbugs. Get out of your bed you big lumberjack looking dude; we need to inspect your sheets.

Stucky

Of course I understand it.

The long article and your responses (almost as long as the article) are outstanding.

Just because I think Bundy will lose, doesn’t mean I want him to lose. I think Bundy is a real hero … a word I normally loathe due to its misuse and over-use. But, not this time.

Maggie
Maggie

Did you take a look at that Mad as Hell comment I asked you to look at? seems to be a noobe of note but what do I know? I thought you know whosie cue was a nice, intelligent LADY. I was gathering you a harem.

Mary Christine

“One of those items that didn’t hit the mainstream media, and sadly didn’t hit much of the alternative media, was the opening statement of Cliven Bundy’s son, Ryan, as the trial of the century began nearly two weeks ago.”

No wonder I hadn’t heard about this!

During the original confrontation, I was afraid the first shots of cw2 would be forthcoming. The government seemed to back down.

Will there be any widespread coverage of this at all?

Thanks for sharing this, Starfker!

Maggie
Maggie

this is why this is the best blog in town… tell all your friends.

steve
steve

“Occasionally the tree of Liberty must be watered with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants,”-Thomas Jefferson.
From time to time, governments must be reminded that the people have the right and the responsibility of protecting their collective liberties and freedoms. The government should fear it’s people otherwise it might try to unduly control the people. Jefferson spoke succinctly to this issue. Hamilton, Jay, and Madison spoke in greater depth and more explicitly in “The Federalist Papers.”

Maggie
Maggie

We are seeing profound events unfold in this Fourth Turning, are we not? I’m feeling a little Maggy McGhee coming on. Or was that Maggie Maggoo?

CCRider
CCRider

Who can possibly imagine a governing body entirely accountable and solely to itself can be relied upon to administer justice? Good luck to the Bundy’s. They’re going to need it.

bigfoot was here
bigfoot was here

I wonder if the jurors know about “nullification?” Probably not and the judge surely won’t tell them, nor the media.

Ryan was nearly as eloquent as Patrick Henry, and Maggie was eloquent as one of the oppressed in this once great country that has devolved into a gov’t led by bad actors voted in by fools.

Maggie
Maggie

Is it possible that we are seeing the idea of personal property rights collapse with nary a whisper. Or, with rounds of applause?

This may be the case which documents the END of the idea that individuals even OWN their own property. I believe it is THAT big a deal regarding Supreme Court Law.

Davido

@Bigfoot “nullification” is nothing more than Justice prevailing -even over the requirements of law. Jurors never need to hear about nullification, they do need to hear about, understand, and accept the pre-eminent importance of justice. Ryan Bundy opening statement is heavy on is Justice. I like his chances -so long as he keeps his case and the jury focused on justice. Blessings to all freedom loving Americans.

joe schmoe
joe schmoe

Every government agent and their superiors that were involved in this travesty should be tried convicted and jailed for life as an example of what “we the people” will do if it EVER happens again!
Execution for the agents that murdered!
And yes, property taxes are UNCONSTITUTIONAL! My rights from God are Life, Liberty and Property!

Maggie
Maggie

What if the federal bureau of land management, the BLM, which has targeted the Bundy family ranch for extinction to contract out the water rights to the highest corporate bidder, decides they need to own the rights to something on YOUR property? They sent tanks and men in armor to assault them for protesting the closing of the streams and access to the water they had rights to since the state became a state. Then, the FEDS decided they owned rights to the water. BLM… nice to NOT know.

So, who really wants the cattle ranches shut down? Could it be the kind of people who put those hideous cattle feedlots out in Western Oklahoma? Where you can’t drive by without wondering how long it will be until the people around there are actually TASTING the cattle urine in their drinking water?

I bet the BLM plans to sell the water rights to some big Corporate Cattle Raising Bidders, don’t you?

Subwo
Subwo

Kind of like the Bush family owning water rights to a large portion of land in South America. It is all about control and the ability of determining who lives and dies.

Maggie
Maggie

This sub deserves a prize.

MarshRabbit
MarshRabbit

Gotta wonder why a billionaire oil man would decide to get into the water business???

“The Texas law allowed billionaire oil tycoon T. Boone Pickens to sell trillions of gallons of Ogallala Aquifer water beneath 211,000 acres surrounding his majestic Mesa Vista ranch, in Roberts County, near the Texas-Oklahoma border. In 2011, the now 85-year-old sold his water rights for $103 million to 11 water-impoverished cities nearby, including Lubbock and Amarillo.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/last-drop-americas-breadbasket-faces-dire-water-crisis-n146836

Maggie
Maggie

That is one crafty old business ASSHOLE.

MarshRabbit
MarshRabbit

Laws concerning water use in the western states are complicated by the doctrine of “Prior appropriation”. I knew about the grazing fees dispute, but I actually wasn’t aware of a water rights issue precipitating the current criminal case.
https://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~saxowsky/aglawtextbk/chapters/waterlaw/PriorAppro1.html

Maggie
Maggie

You do realize that the “pursuit of happiness” somehow got elevated to that level in the Clintonian Dynastic Struggle between Corporations needing to be able to donate money as individuals and the Obamesque decision that people didn’t really build the businesses they built.

Somewhere in between those two corrupt regimes, riding on the military-industrial-complex pulled by the reins of warmongering greed and crony capitalism, was a shift in the Congresscritter ethics and morality rules that allowed outright theft from people to become the law of the land.

BB

One reason the government is going after all the land it can grab is when this whole scam does Collapse the Bankers and the families that own this debt monetary system will try to squeeze us to pay off this Federal / National debt .It will be North of 30 trillion by then.That’s when the government will start selling America and our natural resources for pennies on the dollar to pay this debt the Banks create out of thin air.They will steal 401k and Pensions but the natural resources will be the main target.The Presidential orders have already been signed.They are just waiting for the right time to take down the World Economy. Will we allow these people to steal our Republic and the land mass that makes up our nation ? Or will we make a final decision to fight? To me this is the trillion dollar question

Maggie
Maggie

Dear God. Hell just froze over. I agree with BB.

Stucky

Last week a certain someone asked me why the USA!USA!USA! is perpetually at war, or in lands across the world ready to pounce.

I said it was all about the coming lack of resources … resources found on land.

Now that bb said the same thing, I shall have to reconsider my point of view.

Shinmen Takezo
Shinmen Takezo

BB… this is good post.

It may likely happen because there is no mathamatical way (no how) to pay back this debt without enslaving the entire population for a generation or more…. if you want to include the unfunded liabilities (120 trillion dollars), this sum exceeds the entire value of North America, all the private properties, cash, assets and so forth. This sum cannot be paid in any manner what so ever. It would be impossible even if everyone was completely enslave for several generations and their work product confiscated completely.

At the point where the bubble pops and the US government begins to confiscate 450k’s and so forth–this is the time when the guns come out of the closet and the heads of the elites begin to roll down the gutters.

It will be a happy time indeed.

Maggie
Maggie

You had me at heads of elites rolling down gutters.

Brian
Brian

He is the most dangerous breed to the government.
They will stop at nothing to bury them.
A useful lesson for those who are still dreaming.

ursel doran
ursel doran

Maggie et al,
It is worse than one can imagine. The move for NO COWS on the land is to protect the endangered species desert tortoise.
Cannot have cows stepping on the turtles can we?.
The woman in the forefront of the save the turtle NGO said as much publicly. I do not know for sure, but it was reported that Bundy is the last rancher left, all the others in the area are gone, driven out of business for the turtles!!

Maggie
Maggie

Thanks for added information ursal, but really what premise is used to destroy human rights is almost secondary. If they do it for a turtle there, they can do it for a spotted owl in California and they can do it for the supposedly endangered bobcat here.

We are facing the final countdown.

Colorado Mike
Colorado Mike

The tortoise was the excuse. An ex senator from Nevada needed the water for a subdivision near Las Vegas. He has been trying to steal the water from all over Nevada to cover the water needed for the increased “need”.
A study has found that the cows actually provide more feed for the tortoise by dropping concentrated piles of organic matter that the tortoise feed on and there are increased numbers of tortoise where the cattle are allowed to graze.

Maggie
Maggie

Just like the cows here generate lots of flies to feed birds and fish. This would help my bullfrog pond problem without pesticides.

MarshRabbit
MarshRabbit

“Cows with Guns”

Maggie
Maggie

That is ridiculous. Hilarious, but ridiculous.

starfcker

Ursel, in Florida we PAY ranchers to graze cattle on land to PROTECT the gopher tortoise, basically the same turtle.

wholy1
wholy1

SELECTIVE coercive regulatory/confiscatory creep – by predatory, parasitic corp-owned bar fly LIEyers/lobbyists acting under cover of legisTRAITOR-mandated gov-agency. What once was a federal gov’t as servant to the People has been fully hi-jacked by bankster-controlled corp interests/agents. The DOI, affirmed by great sacrifice/ suffering, blood, body parts and personal bounty, declares INHERENT, UNALIENABLE RIGHTS endowed by the SUPREME AUTHORITY of an ” almighty ‘AUTHOR’ “. The subtle usurpation of said RIGHTS began with the CONstitution, instituted not with any such personal sacrifice, but so conveniently by a few signatures, the likes of Alexander Hamilton who was once purported to have suggested that George Washington become a monarch similar to that very control-system from which it had declared and sacrificed so much to be FREE.
As a FIRST-year “boomer” (’46) when the violent mass blood letting and carnage was replaced with ejaculate during mass divine co-minglings of [returning war vet] Man to [waiting] wo[mb]Man; now at 71+, after experiencing war “up close and personal” in ‘Nam followed by a couple of years of int’l careening – pretty-much ripped to the tits 24/7, culminating in 5 years at BangKwang, Thailand’s notorious maximum security prison, I am now increasingly mollified daily by the thought of being “a little closer to Home”. Considering the “State” of absolutely blatant and pervasive “official” criminality, corp-owned media propaganda, corp/gov-controlled lib-turd academic cry-bullies, AI killer drones/robots, cyber and space weaponry, brain chips, etc, I hope the “almighty Author/Lord” has already “checked me out” – as Jim Morrison was purported to have once not-so-eloquently stated, ” . . . before the whole sh*t-house goes up in flames”, and the radioactive ash begins to settle.
Now, as a [daily] repentING and therefore REDEEMed reprobate, it is [continuously] incumbent upon me to both “give Notice” and humbly seek the forgiveness of each and every other very special and unique Man/wo[mb]Man, created in the image of said “Author” and manifested IN to this world [but NOT OF it]. As the “Quickening” gets more exciting/out-of-control daily and, at some not-yet-known triggering inflection point/critical mass moment, entropy will no longer be forestalled/denied. Ya’ll best be getting the HELLo away from those “coasters”, “citYzens”, nuke plants and GROUNDed on a portion of inland, elevated, RURAL, arable, UN-encumbered/UN-addressed county dirt. Get GATHERed, GUNned, GARDENed, PROVISIONed and . . . S-I-M-P-L-I-F-I-E-D! The “Blessings from the Beginning” are revealed and thereby accessible to the faithfully repentING/REDEEMed/GATHERing RemnantS, fulfilled in daily fellowship of collaborative PRODUCTIVE enterprise and the opportunity to assist/gather other repentING in greater need. And as such . . . relieved, humbled and thankful for sight of One’s salvation BEFORE having – unknowingly – “run out One’s clock”. Hoo-wah!

Maggie
Maggie

A very well constructed underlying message. In a forthright medium. Hidden in plain/plane cite/sight/site.

Shinmen Takezo
Shinmen Takezo

On the last day of the stand-off at the Bundy area in Nevada, I was informed that there were hundreds and hundreds of III% types just sitting by (armed to the teeth) in the nearby areas of Las Vegas, Mesquite and in Saint George Utah–just waiting and watching to see if the events would in fact escalate into violence perpetrated by the government thugs opposing the freedom forces gathered. I also speculated that thousands more would be pouring into the area should this stand-off continue. I posted this infomation on a popular forum site and packed to go out to Nevada (a few hours drive from my AO) to see this popular uprising unfold for myself.

Two hours after I posted this info–the governement thugs called it quits and retreated like the cowards that they truly are. I’m not saying my post made the thugs turn and run, but they did in fact see the hand writing on the wall (which was not good).

Had they/them… the government thugs pulled one trigger, a second civil war would have unfolded quickly on television, nation-wide and I believe that government buildings and facilities would still be smoldering to this day. This is how close things came to outright civil war in this country–and the Obama administration would have kept doubling down on stupid until the White House was overrun by FREEFOR.

But to the point of this post…. I have frequented the downtown of Las Vegas on a regular basis all during the previous trail/s and have seen the SMALL group of supporters and protesters (mostly relative and friends of the Bundy’s) outside the federal courthouse everyday there has been a court proceeding. They’ve been propelling a “jury nullification” information campaign with marginal sucess.

The group I have not seen outside this federal courthouse was ‘Oath Keeper’ who were one of the rah-rah, sis-boom-bah, high profile cheerleaders and organizers at the Bundy Ranch along with their grand poo-bah, Stuart Rhodes… who was nowhere to be found during the trials in Oregon and Las Vegas.

Despite pleading with Oath Keepers to organize a massive ‘jury nullification’ campaign in both Oregon and Las Vegas on their website (comments section–all of my posts quickly deleted BTW). Stuart Rhodes and any kind of organized groups of Oath Keepers were nowhere to be seen outside of these court proceedings.

Oath Keepers in fact did not keep their Oath to the Bundy’s or to the liberty movement in general when they abandoned the Bundy protesters on trial now…. instead only giving them update space on their web pages. Oath Keepers were the ones to pull off such and operation had they possessed the guts to do so. Both court venues could have been blanketed with hundreds of ‘jury nullification ‘protesters/activists’ (especially Las Vegas due to its optimal conditions for support) thus practicaly ensuring hung or nullified outcomes in all the cases presented.

But no

And it’s not too late for Oath Keepers to put out the call for a jury nullification effort to influence the minds of these jurors on this present case.

It’s not too late Mr. Rhodes. Big hint!

Maggie
Maggie

I have often wondered if Oath Keepers would keep many oaths once they realized the Federal Government pays their military pensions.

MarshRabbit
MarshRabbit

There are several offenses that of conviction of will terminate federal pension rights. Some are relevant to Oathkeepers:

“(b) The following are the offenses to which subsection (a) of this section applies if the individual was convicted before, on, or after September 1, 1954:
(1) An offense within the purview of—
(A) section 792 (harboring or concealing persons), 793 (gathering, transmitting, or losing defense information), 794 (gathering or delivering defense information to aid foreign government), or 798 (disclosure of classified information), of chapter 37 (relating to espionage and censorship) of title 18;
(B) chapter 105 (relating to sabotage) of title 18;
(C) section 2381 (treason), 2382 (misprision of treason), 2383 (rebellion or insurrection), 2384 (seditious conspiracy), 2385 (advocating overthrow of government), 2387 (activities affecting armed forces generally), 2388 (activities affecting armed forces during war), 2389 (recruiting for service against United States), or 2390 (enlistment to serve against United States), of chapter 115 (relating to treason, sedition, and subversive activities) of title 18;
(D) section 10(b)(2), (3), or (4) of the Atomic Energy Act of 1946 (60 Stat. 766, 767), as in effect before August 30, 1954;
(E) section 16(a) or (b) of the Atomic Energy Act of 1946 (60 Stat. 773), as in effect before August 30, 1954, insofar as the offense is committed with intent to injure the United States or with intent to secure an advantage to a foreign nation; or
(F) an earlier statute on which a statute named by subparagraph (A), (B), or (C) of this paragraph (1) is based.
(2) An offense within the purview of—
(A) article 104 (aiding the enemy), article 106 (spies), or article 106a (espionage) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (chapter 47 of title 10) or an earlier article on which article 104 or article 106, as the case may be, is based; or
(B) a current article of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (or an earlier article on which the current article is based) not named by subparagraph (A) of this paragraph (2) on the basis of charges and specifications describing a violation of a statute named by paragraph (1), (3), or (4) of this subsection, if the executed sentence includes death, dishonorable discharge, or dismissal from the service, or if the defendant dies before execution of that sentence as finally approved.
(3) Perjury committed under the statutes of the United States or the District of Columbia—
(A) in falsely denying the commission of an act which constitutes an offense within the purview of—
(i) a statute named by paragraph (1) of this subsection; or
(ii) an article or statute named by paragraph (2) of this subsection insofar as the offense is within the purview of an article or statute named by paragraph (1) or (2) (A) of this subsection;
(B) in falsely testifying before a Federal grand jury, court of the United States, or court-martial with respect to his service as an employee in connection with a matter involving or relating to an interference with or endangerment of, or involving or relating to a plan or attempt to interfere with or endanger, the national security or defense of the United States; or
(C) in falsely testifying before a congressional committee in connection with a matter under inquiry before the congressional committee involving or relating to an interference with or endangerment of, or involving or relating to a plan or attempt to interfere with or endanger, the national security or defense of the United States.
(4) Subornation of perjury committed in connection with the false denial or false testimony of another individual as specified by paragraph (3) of this subsection.
(c) The following are the offenses to which subsection (a) of this section applies if the individual was convicted before, on, or after September 26, 1961:
(1) An offense within the purview of—
(A) section 2272 (violation of specific sections) or 2273 (violation of sections generally of chapter 23 of title 42) of title 42 insofar as the offense is committed with intent to injure the United States or with intent to secure an advantage to a foreign nation;
(B) section 2274 (communication of restricted data), 2275 (receipt of restricted data), or 2276 (tampering with restricted data) of title 42; or
(C) section 783 (conspiracy and communication or receipt of classified information) of title 50 or section 601 of the National Security Act of 1947 (50 U.S.C. 421) [1] (relating to intelligence identities).
(2) An offense within the purview of a current article of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (chapter 47 of title 10) or an earlier article on which the current article is based, as the case may be, on the basis of charges and specifications describing a violation of a statute named by paragraph (1), (3), or (4) of this subsection, if the executed sentence includes death, dishonorable discharge, or dismissal from the service, or if the defendant dies before execution of that sentence as finally approved.
(3) Perjury committed under the statutes of the United States or the District of Columbia in falsely denying the commission of an act which constitutes an offense within the purview of a statute named by paragraph (1) of this subsection.
(4) Subornation of perjury committed in connection with the false denial of another individual as specified by paragraph (3) of this subsection.”

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/8312

Maggie
Maggie

All Military Law is a simply a military-jargon loaded dialect of Legalese.

James the Wanderer

The federal pensions cannot be paid either, anyway; might as well stand on principle than cut & run for a pension that only gets paid in your imagination.

Maggie
Maggie

Seriously, would an appearance for Bundy threaten Oath Keeper’s retirement pensions from military service? Could they be charged with “aiding and abetting” an enemy of the state by showing open support for Bundy? Help me out here, Coyote? Isn’t there something in that UCMJ about being subject to it long after you retire?

Subwo
Subwo

Bing search found this: In the past, retired military members have been charged under the UCMJ for offenses ranging from drug use, to sodomy. Retirees drawing pay for service in a regular component of the armed forces are NOT civilians. The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) is applicable, according to article 2 (a)(4) to retired members who are entitled to pay.

I remember people speculating Ollie North might have lost his retired pay if convicted. But it never happened. I do remember reading that if a retiree is convicted of a felony (can’t remember which level) that retirement pay can be lost. Also a retire is subject to recall to active duty for military trial. If a retiree robs a bank and is killed in the getaway (before felony conviction) the surviving spouse can still draw survivor benefits.

Maggie
Maggie

I will need to make sure Nick is killed in the bank robbery if it comes to that.

BTW, thanks.

Subwo
Subwo

I elected no SBP so bank robbery is a future career option. But don’t want to chance it as jails are bad even for the employed inside. It changes most people except those that are drawn to that profession.

Zarathustra

Bundy thinks the emperor has no clothes. The emperor will crush him, or cease being emperor.

22winmag
22winmag

WAAAAAAAAAAY too lengthy.

Eyes certainly glazed over, but they probably glazed over 10x as much when the prosecution presented it’s avalanche of bullshit.

IndenturedServant

“Also, in Clark County, there were 53 ranchers who owned rights. There is only a single one still out on the range. The BLM is not gaining revenue, it’s not important to them. My father could see they were there to manage him out of business. It’s not about grazing fees. In the BLM office there were signs that read: No more Moo by ‘92 and Cattle Free by ‘93! If it were only about the grazing fees, the fees would have been under $100,000 over 25 years. It is rumored, it may not be seen in evidence, but it is rumored that they spent $6 million on the operation. Who spends that and court costs rumored to be over $100 million to collect $100,000?”

That’s it in a nutshell. There is an agenda here. I think the Bundy’s have a better than average chance of winning here but that will set up a precedent the govt does not want so in the end, the Bundy’s (and the rest of us) will probably get fucked.

I still can’t believe that so many unelected bureaucrats get to impose “rules and regulations” on us that have the force of law yet we have no say in who these people are , how long they can serve or what rules and regulations they are allowed to enforce.

If the Bundy’s win I’ll be amazed.

GilbertS
GilbertS

He’s going to lose. And in 10 years, they might make a movie about it.

Maggie
Maggie

I’m working on the theme song for the movie, below.

Maggie
Maggie

Bundy was a cattle man
In the middle of Montana
Back in the good old days
Back in the U.S.A.

In the fight over water rights
In the land of the dollar bill
When property rights died
And they talk about it still

When the Feds came to his home
to make his ranch their own
They claimed imminent domain
over every drop of rain.

We all heard Justice cry;
We heard her weep the night Montana died
Dontcha know the fight has just begun
The Feds are coming soon to get your gun
Glory Be.

We all heard Freedom die;
We heard the gate slam shut on one man’s try
to stop the tanks in Tiananmen
to plug the leak in Amsterdam
to keep us free.

dot. dot. dot.
Then there was no sound at all,
Except the writing on the wall.
So I asked someone who said
ALL THE LAWS ARE DEAD.

I’m not as good at this as that Lord Dude Coyote feller, but in typical Maggie beat a dead horse fashion, I wanted to let the whole bunch of you know that if the bureaucrats pull this off, there will be very little stopping them from deciding they own the very air in your lungs and the food you are getting ready to feed your children. They are Marie Antoinette on steroids and they already ate your cake. And they have decided they own your steroids too.

Zach
Zach

Nice statement and I’m on Bundy’s side, but I’m also from the South and all of this was settled 150 years ago when the corporate shill lawyer and tyrant Lincoln slaughtered roughly 600,000 of the people he swore on the Bible to protect. There are no states rights, no individuals rights anymore, just what the federal government allows us to have at any given time so long as it doesn’t interfere with the billionaires’ wealth and the steady increase thereof. That’s about it.

Maggie
Maggie

I hear ya, Zach. While it was about slavery, it really was NOT about slavery.

Some of us white folks get that.

MarshRabbit
MarshRabbit

“Just say slavery”

Zach
Zach

Well, it was about tariffs. If it had been about slavery, the Emancipation executive order would be dated 1860 or 1861. Lincoln thought blacks inferior and wanted to repatriate them. Yes, he was also a racist but the hagiographers have beatified him over freeing the slaves and “saving the union.”

Maggie
Maggie

Lincoln was kind of like an “accidental President” wasn’t he? We were taught to revere him for “freeing” slaves, but he really created the first stages of Empire for the Federal Government.

GilbertS
GilbertS

Tyrant who locked up people for disagreeing with him. Banished one guy for criticizing the war. Refused to meet with Southern diplomats and negotiators in an attempt to prevent any reconciliation or peace. Knowingly and purposefully placed troops in danger resupplying Sumpter, knowing this was the flashpoint that would give him justification to fight. Yeah, he was a swell guy.

overthecliff
overthecliff

Confront the government by force of arms. Do it in a very public place. You cannot win that way. You will become a resident of a gulag.

This is not the movies.

TJF
TJF

The fact that without this article being posted here on TBP I would not have even been aware that the trial was going on is just one more piece of evidence of just how negligent the MSM really is. By pretending that any story that doesn’t fit the narrative does not exist they manage to control and shape the thinking of nearly all of the people in this country and who knows how many more they influence around the globe.

Wonder where Trump is on this case and if he will pardon the Bundy’s if they should be found guilty of anything.

Davido
Davido

Thank you for this post.

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