Teslian Gotchas

Guest Post by Eric Peters

The rest of the car industry envies Elon. Not because his cars are superior – but because he gets away with things they’d be boiled alive for doing.

These include selling a car that hasn’t changed significantly since its introduction more than six years ago but which still gets fawning reviews, building cars so expensive to repair their design is arguably defective, making claims about his cars that are egregiously false and making outlandish promises about his cars that are routinely broken.

The Model S is ancient –

 

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A 2012 Tesla Model S . . .

Introduced way back in 2011 as a new 2012 model, the top Tesla is now an old Tesla. Other than a few software “updates” and the addition of a more powerful all-wheel-drive model, the current model is fundamentally the same as the original model. If the Model S were any other car – including an IC-engined economy car – it would be styled, rightly, as “dated” by the car press. Most current-era non-electric cars get refreshed after two or three years and are usually completely redesigned within four or five years. This is particularly the case with high-end cars, whose high prices are justified at least in part by their newness. Mercedes, BMW, Audi and Lexus would be laughed out of the room if they left a car on the market for six years-plus without a major redesign. They’d have to be massively discounted to offset the massive depreciation.

A 2017 Model S . . .

Only Elon could get away with selling a six-year-old car as a new car.

And he does so, in part, because he doesn’t sell them. He gives each away at a loss – the difference subsidized by the taxpayer and “carbon credits” extorted from other carmakers – who have no choice about updating their cars.

If they plan to sell any – which they have to do, because there are no subsidies for them.

Teslas are economically unrepairable –

Waiting around for hours while your Tesla reboots is just one of your worries. If anything hits your Tesla, it may not be worth fixing it. Relatively minor fender-benders can total a Tesla – which has a base price of almost $70,000. Here are some examples culled from a Tesla-friendly source, Green Car Reports:

  • A $10,000 estimate to repair a “minor but long” scratch
  • A $45,000 estimate for “minor front-end damage”
  • A $7,000 estimate for repair of a small dent and scratch that required no replacement of parts
  • A $30,000 estimate for “minor fender and door damage”
  • An $11,000 estimate for a minor scrape on the rear panel, including a $155 charge to “ensure battery remains charged” during the repair.

Part of this is due to the way Teslas are made – out of aluminum and composites, with special bonding adhesives that cost as much as $100 per tube.

Fixing aluminum is specialized and thus, costly, work. Different welding techniques are involved and a dedicated work space is required. This is an issue with any aluminum-bodied vehicle, including non-electric high-end cars like Jaguars and Audis

But Teslas have additional issues. These include no lower-cost aftermarket alternatives for parts – as is the case with other cars – which means huge mark-up on “authorized” parts – as well as shops having to buy Tesla-specific equipment such as a special cradle in order to remove and hold the half-ton battery pack prior to performing any structural repairs to the car’s body. The cost of this cradle and other Tesla-specific equipment needed to patch up a banged-up Tesla is reflected in the bill.

As well as the insurance.

Teslas are among the most expensive high-end cars to insure precisely because they are easily damaged and because it’s so expensive to repair the damage. Why doesn’t the car press ever mention this? Why are the “consumer advocates” silent?

It must be Elon’s magic Musk.

* Tesla fudges its numbers –

Elon touts the Model S as a full-size car in order to make the Model S look like it’s selling better than it actually is by comparing its sales with sales of low-volume full-size luxury sedans like the Mercedes S Class and BMW 7 Series.

But the Model S – although Tesla’s top-of-the-line model – is in fact a mid-sized car and should be compared with other mid-sized luxury-sport sedans like the Mercedes E sedan and BMW 5 Series.

Let’s do that – since the car press won’t.

A Mercedes S is 206.5 inches long, rides on a 124.6 inch wheelbase, has 41.4 inches of legroom up front and 43.1 inches of legroom for the backseaters. It is a full-sized car.

A BMW 7 is 206.6 inches long overal, rides on a 126.4-inch wheelbase, has 41.4 inches of front seat legroom and 44.4 inches of backseat legroom.

It is also a full-sized car.

The Model S is 196 inches long overall, has a 116.5 inch wheelbase and 42.7 inches of front seat legroom and 35.3 inches of backseat legroom.

It is a mid-sized car – with slightly less room inside than other mid-sized luxury sedans such as the BMW 5 and Mercedes E Class.

Last month (November 2017) Tesla sold – or gave away – about 1,300 Model S sedans nationally. Compared with sales of the BMW 7 Series sedan – of which about 700 were sold; that is, actually purchased by people who paid what it cost to make them, plus a mark-up for the dealer and BMW, in order to make it worth making the car.

But that’s apples-oranges.

Now let’s compare sales numbers, apples to apples.

BMW sold about 4,000 examples of its 5 Series sedan in November – more than twice and nearly three times as many as Tesla Model S give-aways. Same goes for Mercedes – which sells even more of its mid-sized E-Class (4,600 in November).

This doesn’t look nearly as good for Elon – but almost no one knows about it because the car press doesn’t report it.

Musk gets away with what would be considered fraud if done by anyone else – 

Elon raises capital by taking money from people in return for the promise that they may get a car . . . eventually.

He has taken several Brinks trucks’ worth of money from people who’ve been promised a new Model S – the delivery of which continues to be delayed. If GM or Ford did this the eructation of outrage from Automotive News and Consumer Reports would be deafening.  And this business of taking $50,000 deposits on a $200,000 car (Musk’s recently promised supercar) that is purely hypothetical at this point, years away from production – and may never be produced – must have poor old Preston Tucker doing Yoga in his grave.

Nevermind. Elon will have us all taking side trips to Mars just five years from now.

Right?

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CCRider
CCRider
December 16, 2017 9:53 am

Musk is a master at what Rand called the “aristocracy of pull”.

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 16, 2017 10:02 am

Wonder what the insurance rates on those things are?

wdg
wdg
December 16, 2017 10:10 am

The question we really need to ask is who is backing crooked Musk? The answer is the same powerful entities who set up the UN’s Inter-governmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) which is a fraudulent scientific organization to promote the greatest scientific fraud of the 20th century – the Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) theory of climate change. These are the same people who are behind the UN’s Agenda 21 which is sold as sustainable development but is nothing more than a tyrannical system of global depopulation and control. Involved in both of these frauds is none other than Canada’s Maurice Strong who was a great friend of Canadian Prime Minsters including Pierre Trudeau and Paul Martin but who is in fact one of the greatest gangsters on planet Earth. He is thankfully now dead but the tyranny continues by other members of this diabolical tribe and their loyal bought and paid for puppets.

kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
  wdg
December 16, 2017 11:22 am

wdg……………..correct; the Globalists are all-encompassing in their reach. It is not just GloBull Warming; also eliminate Nation States; eliminate cultural identity with economic migrants forced into countries by same globalists; turn the EU into the United States of Europe to control the populations with new laws that eliminate free speech, support the Muslim Head-Choppers/Sharia Law in defiance of all known morality. ETC.

Mad as hell
Mad as hell

True, however WE are the ones, collectively that put logic, reason and basic common sense aside, and reinforce the worship of this con-man. Sheeple-ness is the problem, not Musk. If not for the sheep, the sheep herders (Musks, Obama’s etc.) would have no hold, or the globalists for that matter.

wdg
wdg

I agree fully. I just focused on climate change and Agenda 21 but the aims of this evil group…as you indicate…is nothing less than an Orwellian New World Order controlled by them where we all live as slaves.

Agenda 21 is called ‘the agenda for the 21st century’ and that agenda refers to global fascism/communism. This is a summary of what Agenda 21 / Sustainable Development / Biodiversity is seeking to impose:
• An end to national sovereignty
• State planning and management of all land resources, ecosystems, deserts, forests, mountains, oceans and fresh water; agriculture; rural development; biotechnology; and ensuring ‘equity’ (equal slavery)
• The State to ‘define the role’ of business and financial resources
• Abolition of private property (it’s not ‘sustainable’)
• ‘Restructuring’ the family unit
• Children raised by the State
• People told what their job will be
• Major restrictions on movement
• Creation of ‘human settlement zones’
• Mass resettlement as people are forced to vacate land where they currently live
• Dumbing down education (achieved)
• Mass global depopulation in pursuit of all the above

“The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.“
– Club of Rome

“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”
– Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme (UNEP)

Bigbadjon
Bigbadjon
  wdg
January 9, 2018 11:20 am

Trudeau is a pr!ck but so are most politicians, the rest is conspiracy BS. Ever stood on a glacier that doesn’t exist anymore? Leaves an unforgettable impression.

JuanDonJuan
JuanDonJuan
December 16, 2017 10:51 am

would that be the new model S or, rather, the “Long Awaited Model 3?”

kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
December 16, 2017 11:26 am

Another superlative article by Eric Peters

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
December 16, 2017 12:10 pm

Tesla advocates have to see its drawbacks as “features”. Taking 8 hours for the 6 hour drive from Minneapolis to Chicago “allows” you two hourlong coffee breaks while you charge up. The fact that you have to have an onboard computer to tell you to turn off the AC so that you don’t end up stranded alongside the freeway is another cool “feature”. It’d all be fine if there were no subsidies from taxpayers.

ragman
ragman
December 16, 2017 12:37 pm

Iska: W/O subsidies there would be no Tesla.

marblenecltr
marblenecltr
December 16, 2017 3:54 pm

Not part of the free market/invisible hand. More like what would take place under a Marxist-produced closed fist.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
December 16, 2017 9:15 pm

Elon Musk “WELFARE QUEEN” on a grand scale ranks just above a section 8 landlord . How do you make an investment in business or real estate that is non performing in nearly every real world operation , that’s easy ! Make a bull shit appeal to The Capitol Street Swindlers . Get in there and become a pivot man in the circle jerk that is Wall Street to K-Street to Capitol Street and that band of swamp creatures will fuck over every taxpayer in America if their wife , brother or son in law gets a pay off job . It’s not theft or a bribe it’s just the way crony capitalism works in America today . The only way to fix it is with a Louisville Slugger to a couple of Washington insiders skulls . Until they fear the American people it will be business as usual !

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
December 16, 2017 11:03 pm

No thanks, I’ll keep my Prius Plug-in. 60 mpg avg, total EV 1st 10 miles.

Bigbadjon
Bigbadjon
January 9, 2018 11:10 am

The mindset here is clear. Heavy Musk criticism below a ‘Burning Platform’ of some sort of huge ship. Oh, the irony! He is the guy that’s gonna save us from these environmental nightmares. But you Big Oil shills know that anyway, right? Finally a guy with the guts to start a NEW car company in the USA after decades of decimation of the industry by the unions. What eats you most are the Tesla owners – they LOVE their cars, most don’t want any other brand anymore. Worried about a new model every couple of years? These babies are built for the LONG haul, the batteries are going to last for decades! Subsidies: Big Oil’s subsidies run into the trillions, which is why gas is so cheap in the USA compared to other countries. The federal tax rebates for EVs (even those NOT made in America!) are chicken feed in comparison and are scheduled to end soon as the model 3 production cranks up. Speaking of which, the half a million Model 3 prospective buyers – CRAZY, right? Plonk down their deposits years ahead of time, delay after delay but most stay loyal, and with reports coming out of the vehicle looking so good, the waiting list will grow longer again!
Unless you’re getting your instructions from Saudi, Moscow, Caracas, Iran or the other oil-producers: just eat your pride, admit this guy is the best the US will ever produce.

Stucky
Stucky
  Bigbadjon
January 9, 2018 1:10 pm

“The mindset here is clear. Heavy Musk criticism below a ‘Burning Platform’ of some sort of huge ship”

Ship???

It is a BURNING OIL RIG !!! Cuz, you know, the name of this web site is THE BURNING PLATFORM.

You are a special level of dumbfuk Moran. Or, a Tesla owner. Which is really the same thing.

BL
BL
January 9, 2018 1:38 pm

Sitting around after Christmas dinner my youngest daughter tells me they want a Tesla Model 3. They then proceed to pull up you tubes of Tesla factories with outlandish square footage and begin to tell me that there will be 8 of them and those are JUST to produce batteries for EV’s. (That was after I heard about their $hitcoin investment)

As it was Christmas, I didn’t give them the business BUT as I left I told them to take all the equity out of their house and put it into Shitcoin and then they could get a new Tesla for everybody, even the teen (grandchildren). My daughter understood that I had just inferred they were dumb/suckers but it went right over my son-in-law’s head. I can only hope that God really does help the drunks and the fools of this world.