The Norks

Guest Post by The Zman

Is North Korea about to collapse?

That’s the question Don Surber asks in this post last week. He is looking at the recent defections of soldiers and civilians. We have at least one soldier, an elite soldier no less, who simply walked across the border unmolested. Maybe this happens from time to time, but the impression from news reports is that the Norks guard that border ferociously. The Norks have special units that do nothing but roam the border looking for anyone trying to flee. Here’s a recent video of them shooting a guy trying to escape.

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Surber is looking at these recent incidents where North Koreans have managed to escapade unmolested and compares it to the last days of the Soviet empire. There’s also the fact that the one soldier was from an elite unit. That seems unusual. There was also the solider that escaped and was found to be infested with parasites, suggesting the regime is struggling to care for even the soldiers that protects it. The Kim regime can only survive if it has the absolute loyalty of the military, so they have to make sure they are fed.

I think we can also wonder if the recent Chinese cooperation may be another signal that all is not well in the hermit kingdom. It’s reasonable to assume that the Chinese know the most of any outsiders about what is going on inside the country. The assumption in the West is that they were willing to prop up the Norks, in order to avoid dealing with the collapse. Maybe they have decided that Kim’s days are numbered, no matter what they do, so they are now looking to turn the inevitable into an opportunity.

American military intelligence probably knows a great deal about what is happening inside North Korea, but it is tightly held information. As a result, the public defense experts have no idea what’s happening. Trump’s dramatic ramp up of pressure is reminiscent of what we did with the Russians in the 1980’s. Reagan’s great insight, and it was truly his insight, was that the Russians simply could not compete with the West, if we got our act together economically. That proved to be correct. The Russians were spent as an empire.

Maybe that is what Trump is sensing. A generation ago, standard operating procedure in the US was to try and negotiate with the Russians. It was done on the assumption that the Soviets were strong. Reagan’s insight was that they were weak, so he abandoned appeasement. Trump seems to be going down the same path with the Norks. He has said that negotiations are a waste of time. That would explain the build up of assets in the region, along with the moves to cut off the North’s access to hard currency.

It’s all speculation, but we can tease out some things from what we do know about the Norks. Countries have a finite amount of resources. Some portion are used for the necessities of maintaining society. Some portion are used for defense. Some other portion is used by the ruling class to maintain their positions. Similarly, the ruling class will use some portion of their available capital to expand their position, both internally and externally. A country is not a closed system, but about 90% of its resources are internal.

It is assumed that the Norks have a lot of human capital, relative to rogue regimes in the Arab world. This is based on the unspoken assumption that Asians are smart, while Arabs are dumb. The Norks have split the atom and developed respectable missile technology, which is more than Saddam was able to do and more than the Persians have mustered to this point. The Norks have also shown themselves to be very resourceful in gaining access to the global arms market and the global drug trade. The Kim regime is clever.

That said, we know that most of the population is living with barely enough to eat and the bare minimum of health care. So much so that the North Koreans are shorter than the South Koreans. We know from Western history, that as nutrition improved in the West, Europeans got taller. People also got smarter. The Flynn Effect is most likely a result of nutrition and health care. The Norks are probably experiencing a reverse of this, where starvation and poor sanitation are lowering the average IQ of the population.

Then there is the math of every extraction regime. North Korea is closer to a feudal society than a modern country. Every level of society sees the excess from its labor siphoned off by the layer above it. This not only stifles productivity and innovation, it encourages corruption at all levels. This was the experience in the Soviet Union, where trust in institutions fell to zero. That was the joke among Soviet workers. The government would pretend to pay the workers and the workers pretended to work.

The point here is that the sum of human capital in North Korea is probably an order of magnitude less than many assume. They have a large enough smart fraction to build crude nuclear bombs and launch some long range missiles into the sea. They don’t have enough of a smart fraction to do that, feed their people and provide the basics of health care. Throw in the fact that Kim may have been forced to kill off many of the regime’s best people in order to solidify control, and North Korea could be very weak right now.

In fact, the saber rattling may be an attempt to get South Korea and China to put pressure on the US, in order to get some food and medical relief. That has worked with past presidents. Clinton, Bush and Obama were all willing to cut a deal. Trump calling the bluff may be why the Nork solider was allowed to just walk across the border to the South. He is carrying antibodies for anthrax, suggesting he has been exposed to it. That could be intended to send a message that the Norks have it and will use it in a war.

It’s impossible to know the true state of affairs in North Korea. One feature of all authoritarian regimes is a high degree of secrecy and deception. The same skills used to lie to the people, are used by the political factions inside the regime to lie to one another and to the outside world. The one thing low trust societies are good at producing is gifted liars. Still, the fundamental math of society strongly suggest the Norks are much weaker than they wish the world to know. That may explain the shift in US policy under Trump.

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Zarathustra
Zarathustra
December 28, 2017 5:59 pm

The Norks have split the atom and developed respectable missile technology, which is more than Saddam was able to do and more than the Persians have mustered to this point.
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Nonsense. At any rate if the Norks are so fucking smart, why are they so poor?

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Zarathustra
December 28, 2017 8:02 pm

Oh, they “developed” it, huh? From scratch, or did they acquire what technology they have in some other way?

unit472/
unit472/
  Chubby Bubbles
December 29, 2017 3:33 am

Article in the Washington Post yesterday points out that the “Nork” missile are of Russian design. Specifically two 1990’s Russian missile sub designs that the North had the blueprints for but lacked the machine tools to manufacture. Once they acquired those they simply made and assembled the components from the Russian drawings.

Stucky
Stucky
December 28, 2017 6:44 pm

Starving rats in a cage are the most dangerous of all. We should just leave those poor brainwashed bastards the fuck alone.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
December 29, 2017 11:17 am

No problem, as long as they leave us alone. Just do what they want and they’ll leave you alone.

I imagine you would also have no problem with MS13 moving into your neighborhood and making death threats against you, believing they’ll leave you alone and you don’t need to be worried about them?

(Actually, that’s what you do since you claim to not even have a gun for self defense, as is the case with most of their innocent victims)

Stucky
Stucky
  Anonymous
December 29, 2017 11:39 am

Your “logic” is fucked up beyond belief.

Also, you are a neocon asshole.

Lastly, blow me.

Boo Radley
Boo Radley
December 28, 2017 7:49 pm

Stucky,

Ouch! Your poignancy stings but it is not clear to me how you think we (US) should proceed. I am low on the IQ standard; I am not being faceitious.

Thanks,
Boo

Stucky
Stucky
  Boo Radley
December 28, 2017 8:23 pm

Well, leave them alone.

— they already apparently have nukes and delivery systems. Ain’t gonna turn back the clock now.

Stop bullying them.

— we’re only making things worse with the sanctions. Sanctions only hurt the peons, never the elites running the joint. Sanctions ARE an act of WAR. We’re going to sanction them into forcing them to do something desperate … and then we’ll blame them. What a load of shit.

Formally end the war.

— we never signed a peace treaty. The war is technically still going on. How do the Norks view this? Well, that we can bomb the fuck out of them whenever we want. If we really wanted peace, really wanted it … end the motherfucken war!

Neocons will shout APPEASER! Maybe bring up Chamberlain. Some will go all Barney Fife and demand we ‘nip it in the bud’. Some will say it makes America look weak. All that and every other reason is, imho, pure fucking bullshit.

Because, what we still can do is to make it perfectly clear in unambiguous terms — that if the Norks actually DO something bad, like lob even one shell into Seoul, that we will obliterate their country.

We have that power, and Rocket Boy would not challenge that. After all, all he really cares about is maintaining his plush lavish lifestyle. He’s a fucken nut job. But, not a suicidal fucken nut job.

But, ‘Murica just HAS to prove what big fucken brass balls we have. Even though we’re scared of a piss-ant country. So, we’re gonna keep pushing, Rocket Man will keep resisting, and one day war will come .. hope it’s not nuclear … cuz neither side knows a goddamned thing about meeting halfway.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  Stucky
December 28, 2017 8:30 pm

There’s something good about a family that likes Dennis Rodman. “Dotard” was a fine zinger too.

unit472/
unit472/
  Stucky
December 29, 2017 3:36 am

I must have overlooked South Africa ‘lashing out’ with its nuclear arsenal when sanctions were placed on them. Who did they threaten to nuke?

bigfoot
bigfoot
December 28, 2017 10:16 pm

I have questions and a solution:

I wonder how we know Kim is not “suicidal?”

If he has a submarine and an EMP threat, might a launch of it over the U.S. not end civilized life in the U.S.?

If he gets bombed might he not become suicidal in fact when he presses some buttons sending nukes hither and yon?

Lotta problems would get solved if his generals knew about a ten million dollar bounty on the guy.

Iconoclast421
Iconoclast421
December 29, 2017 8:20 am

NK will collapse when one of their nukes “accidentally” detonates, with rocket man nearby. That will be the end of that. Somewhat unfortunate for north koreans, but the thousands that die within the blast zone will pave the way for the millions who will have a better life.

anarchyst
anarchyst
December 29, 2017 9:41 am

Lil Kim doesn’t want to end up like Saddam Hussein or Mohamar Quaddafi…

In fact, the Israelis could be providing North Korea with nukes and “technical assistance…stranger bedfellows have been known to exist.

The “Norks” are being used as pawns in the “big game” run out of Israel. IF a nuke is detonated in an American or European city, it will have Israel’s “fingerprints” all over it. This “misdirection” is a favorite jewish tactic–blaming others while achieving your own objectives.
Look up “the Samson Option”…

An Israeli plane was allowed to land and take off during the recent power outage in Atlanta without being inspected by U S customs. This reeks of covert activity… The “power outage” in Atlanta was a convenient excuse for Israel to perform a logistical “sleight of hand”. Just maybe one of Israel’s nukes was just being pre-positioned, getting ready for “the big one”. As Americans are tired of all of the foreign wars being fought for Israel’s benefit, another “incident” on American soil would be enough to galvanize the American public, once again, (just like WTC 9-11) to support another war for Israel’s benefit. Israel’s “samson option” is a real threat to “light one off” in a European or American city, if Israel’s interests are not taken seriously.

Israel refuses to abide by IAEA guidelines concerning its nukes as they are already distributed around the world. Israel would not be able to produce all of them as most of them are not in Israel, proper. No delivery systems are needed as Israel’s nukes are already “in place”. Look for another “false flag” operation with the blame being put on North Korea, Iran or Syria. You can bet that some North Korean, Iranian or Syrian passports will be found in the rubble.

GilbertS
GilbertS
December 29, 2017 10:25 am

I second Stucky. Just leave them alone. That seems to be their primary concern. They’re not an aggressive expansionist threat-they spend most of their resources locking themselves in behind walls and wire and mines. Why not let them be? Seems silly to go to the guy wearing the LEAVE ME ALONE sign to pick a fight. We never did anything to them when they were a real threat, so why bully them now when they’re not?