ORANGE COUNTY 2018

The stock market hit 26,000 today. Corporations are getting a massive tax cut when their after tax profits are at all time highs. The .1% are partying like it’s 1999. Orange County is one of the wealthiest counties in the USA. Explain this endless tent city if things in this country are so fucking great for the average family.

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Wip
Wip

Like it or not, good or bad, right or wrong wealth/income inequality (if it gets bad enough) is a baaad row to hoe.

It’s a road to 3rd world Shithole.

Envy and greed deserve each other.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Sore loser!

I told you long ago that your idol John Husseman was a fake.

Dow 2,000 ? Surrr.

Dysmas The Thief

I have my own moral dilemma. Five nights a week at 7:30 PM a guy parks his Toyota at the end of our street. He has his 2 kids with him a son and a daughter both under 10. His wife works as a phone receptionist for ADT from 7 to 7. I worry about the kids in the cold. The flip side, if I call CPS the kids would probably end up in foster care and that can be a shit deal. The kids seem happy enough. I gave him a c note for Christmas. So here I sit minding my own business. But it’s a little troubling.

Janet Wilkie
Janet Wilkie

Warm clothing and blankets would help too. “I was naked, and you clothed me, hungry and you fed me…”

I am trying to imagine someone calling CPS on Mary and Joseph during the flight to Egypt. Very substandard living conditions. I’m glad you haven’t.

Parasites are one thing. These people sound like they are trying.

What they need is charity, not “charity.”

Wip
Wip

Amen.

turlock
turlock

You serve God. Good man.

TampaRed
TampaRed

put down the phone and back away slowly-do not call cps–
thank you for helping him–

kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2

Convinces me we need more immigration; obvious the employers cannot find help even in the lib state of CA.

Crawfisher
Crawfisher

I saw these in the early 80’s around Houston TX, when the price of oil crashed along with the Savings & Loan banks. The economy had cratered, people were living under over passes near rivers and creeks. Quite sad when you see it in person. My other thought is how many early Baby Boomers are living this way out of necessity? I see it in rural camp grounds.

Maggie
Maggie

I was in Houston when the crash happened and saw all the homeless camps along with people in cars in every mall parking lot.

The oil refinery I worked for (lab technician sampling input crude and output JP4 and diesel) went bankrupt. I drifted off to Pensacola to stay with my fun aunt and cousin until I decided to give college another try.

That level of unemployment along with interest rates skyrocketing (my friend who rented me a bedroom had his mortgage payment jump from @700 to over 1200 when his APR rate adjusted. He lost the house and I had to find another place to rent a room or leave Houston.

I left.

Motoguse
Motoguse

Found the video here http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/hepatitis-crisis/sd-me-oc-homeless-20170915-story.html

How come all the people there are white people?

Dutchman
Dutchman

Because they are mentally ill – and refuse meds, care home.

Arnold Ziffel
Arnold Ziffel

Because they are veterans with PTSD and hooked on drugs.

Mark
Mark

Hey Arnold Z…what do you know about PTSD ass wipe?

Mark
Mark

Arnold Z…I asked you a question ass wipe…what do you know about PTSD???

Lets hear some witty banter…something tells me your either a Soy Boy or a basement dweller?

Both?

Llpoh
Llpoh

Mark – what is your point? Veterans are 11% of the homeless. So it is not an inconsequential percentage, but not the most significant, either. Of that 11%, some would certainly have drug issues, and some would have issues related to having been in combat.

Arnold is not accurate in his assessment. But I fail to see the point you are making. I do not know if you are saying veterans are not part of the homeless issue, or that ptsd is not real, or whatever. Please clarify.

Mark
Mark

My point was I took it as a broad brush snark and insult against Veterans and it pissed me off.

He said “They are Veterans” implying they all are all Veterans. So to me he wasn’t “accurate with his assessment.”

And I asked “him” to explain what he knew about PTSD or meant.

Llpoh
Llpoh

Thank you. Maybe that is what he meant. He may also have been sympathising, which was my first take on it – perhaps he meant we are not doing enough to support them upon their return. His statement was clearly inaccurate. Whether it was malicious we will not know unless he responds. Given the amount of skin you peeled off him, I suspect he may not show up again.

Mark
Mark

Llpoh,
He hit a hot button with me.

I took it as a snarky insult, if he responds and explains an honest “failure to communicate” we can kiss and make up.

If he meant it as a snark insult I’ll track him down during a flashback.

I gotta go…I hear the resupply chopper coming in!

TomMacGyver
TomMacGyver

Mexicans took their jobs. Call me a bigot. The truth is still the truth…

AC
AC

This, as far as I know started in the late 1960s, when the OC hotels fired all their poor White employees, and replaced them with illegal aliens. Over the past 50 or so years, this trend has worked up the ladder – as more types of businesses fire more White people and hire illegal aliens to replace them.

Most of OC is becoming a Third World shithole, as the illegal aliens recreate what they left behind – the business owners live in the shrinking wealthy suburbs on the periphery as the homeless problem they created, combined with the Third World shithole problem they also created, have made the core of OC essentially uninhabitable for them.

Look at your future, if nothing changes soon:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3821558/The-white-ghettos-blight-South-Africa-20-years-fall-apartheid-white-people-live-squalid-camps-falling-poverty.html

Dysmas The Thief

I hear you about SA brother. But for me, family farm, heritage, whatever, once I got wind of that truth and reconciliation shit, I would have had my family out of there lickety fuckin’ split. God bless them but common sense has to override pride when it comes to those you’re bound to protect.

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia

This is a much better representation of the US unemployment rate than the bullshit the BLS puts out. This country is in a depression, however, most of us don’t know it because the government and media are telling us everything is honky dory.

Pretty soon the President of Haiti is going to refer to the US as a shithole country and he might be right.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Open your eyes, look around, and give real life examples of the “depression” we are in.

Most of us are quite capable of observing the world around us, and most of us would take notice of all their friends and family being unemployed and reduced to begging for a living.

Be honest, how many people do you know that actually want a job can’t find one, and why (like maybe they just never have the time to put in an application)?

Holding out for an executive position doesn’t count.

TPC
TPC

@Anon – Part of the problem isn’t being able to get a job, its getting one that pays what is needed for the area.

Our wages haven’t just stagnated, they cratered. Yeah I can go out and find 8 different replacement jobs for the one I have now, but the pay is on a late 90s scale, when inflation has eaten up over 15% of that. More if you have school or medical bills.

A good example; I was trying to leave my current position and got offered a job that was a one hour drive away for 50 grand. This was a masters degreed chemistry position on second shift, and it was a shift supervisor and method development position.

50 grand for that? Are you kidding me? In the heart of a major city? Good god. They filled the part with an H1B guy that doesn’t know shit. Can barely speak English. But that doesn’t matter, because the spot of the cog has been filled.

I tried to start my own business, but just the regulatory costs alone (not rent/employees/materials/equipment) was six figures per annum.

We have out-sourced all of our labor, regulated small businesses out of existence, and the entire time had over a third of the population screeching for more fairness in life.

The US is in a depression. Its hidden behind pretty smiles talking about pretty numbers and wrapped up with your very own Government Credit Card (EBT), but it is still a depression.

The only reason the chickens haven’t come home to roost is because the entire western world is in the same boat, and its sinking.

unit472/
unit472/

Moonbeamvilles? I don’t have a lot of sympathy though for people who want to live in the most expensive housing market in the US ( coastal California) in a tent when they could live in trailer park somewhere else. Worth remembering that fire in Belair that burned those multi million dollar homes started at a homeless encampment.

For the money that fire cost Jerry Brown could buy a lot of trailers and put these people in some sort of housing but he doesn’t have the guts to clean up the squalor.

Anonymous
Anonymous

California, as rich and productive as it is, leads the nation in the number of people in poverty (something like 20%).

I think they may also lead the nation in the number of people who don’t speak English.

Dutchman
Dutchman

Nothing like a good dose of Ebola can’t cure.

Sorry – but there a alot of ‘extra’ people.

Diogenes
Diogenes

Seriously cold comment. Not funny in the least. Glad you showed us your elitist mindset.

Maggie
Maggie

Dio, I know what you mean, but I also know what Dutch is talking about.

We are facing a real crisis soon regarding feeding a large population of people who have almost no knowledge or understanding of how to process their own food. And I’m not talking about just growing a garden or having chickens. I’m talking about people not knowing how to peel and cook a potato. Actually, that is dishonest: when I asked my friend’s 14 year old where the potatoes were? She told me they were at the grocery store… IN THE DELI, already cooked.

I know we are all sick of the just in time delivery warnings and the dollar collapse warnings and the peak oil crap and all the stuff that goes along with knowing our society is in deep shit but not knowing when the next load drops. But, when there are large numbers of hungry people congregated in these kinds of tent cities, bad things start happening. Disease and theft are just the beginning of a very bad ending.

Dutchman
Dutchman

Dio, I wasn’t being elitist. Almost all these people have mental issues. We can’t force them into treatment nor to take meds. This is not about illegals taking their jobs.

Face reality, these are ‘extra people’, also the breeders and the dindu’s on perpetual welfare, and medicaid, phones, section 8, snap.

We can’t do it anymore. They say the Japanese population is shrinking – that’s good, with technology we need less people. If we allow our shithole people to breed – we’re going to have even more ‘extra/useless’ people.

I don’t know if you read about the epidemic of Hepatitis A in San Diego – but there were over 500 cases. All because the ‘homeless’ were pissing / shitting in the streets.

Diogenes
Diogenes

I guess I’m a little touchy because I have had two jobs destroyed by other peoples actions. the 2008 mortgage bullshit destroyed my custom homebuilding business. so I went to into a business that supported the gas and oil drilling business and then saw that fade away with the price of oil tanking.
Thank God my wife had a good job to keep things afloat while I searched for new jobs. I agree that the majority of homeless may have mental issues, but not all.
Be careful what you wish for, when the smoke and mirrors quit working I think there is going to be a big thinning of the human herd.

Arnold Ziffel
Arnold Ziffel

Victor Davis Hanson; noted historian from California, lays out the naked facts about California in this presentation. The facts are quite ugly.

kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2
kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon and I-LUV-CO2

Arnold….got to the 15 min mark so far and it is a great vid

Maggie
Maggie

It is very, very good.

Maggie
Maggie

I think he’s right, except for one thing: In this country the unemployment and poverty levels are less visible because of Section 8 housing policies for HUD housing (Ollie North once said HUD had the best slush/hush fund around) and EBT stipends for food (some have a cash benefit, I’ve heard, for dignity purposes) and all sorts of “other” ways to get free assistance and handouts without actually begging.

But, I have no doubt there are hard times coming and we will see more and more people on the street in situations like this.

unit472/
unit472/

There has to be a cap on Sec. 8 benefits and in places like OC and SF it is going to be hit if it hasn’t already. People in Nebraska or Minnesota are just not to accept giving $2500-$3000 per MONTH in housing benefits to people simply because they want to live in a Mediterranean climate.

22winmag - The South was Right (and slavery would have ended through legislation not war in the years to come, so don't give me that shit) What happened to places like Rhodesia and safe spaces for white folks? What comes next?
22winmag - The South was Right (and slavery would have ended through legislation not war in the years to come, so don't give me that shit) What happened to places like Rhodesia and safe spaces for white folks? What comes next?

Less visible?

You are being modest.

Strip away 1/4 of all welfare-type benefits and America is Mad Max territory overnight.

kevin
kevin

They have thousands upon thousands of shipping containers piling up at West Coast ports why not truck them inland, put them on concrete pilings and use those for shelters? At least people could secure their property and they are pretty fire/earthquake proof being all steel.

Diogenes
Diogenes

Smoke and mirrors. Things have been fucked since at least 2008. Also some of you smug motherfuckers might want to be show a little humility as well as humanity and quit acting like you control the world. Death stalks the rich as well as the poor.

IndenturedServant

In my experience that comes from actually talking to some of these people, most if not all of them have mental problems of some kind. Some are higher functioning than others. There used to be vast numbers of mental hospitals around the country to house these people but horror stories of abuse caused most states to sort of quietly shut them down over the years in part due to budget issues but also to avoid law suits over the abuses being committed in these places.

Most don’t seem to be criminals or even mean. If they were they’d be in jail. Most are older than I am and the older ones seem to stay away from the younger ones. I have no idea how to fix it. Around here the city is removing the hard surfaces where these bums tend to congregate and replacing them with sharp, jagged surfaces like 6-8″ diameter crushed basalt rock. You can’t even walk on that shit. At first the bums just kept moving to the few remaining hospitable places they could find but lately I’ve only seen a few bums. I have no idea where they’ve moved to but I’m sure they’re still here somewhere. I think many of our bums move south in winter to escape the cold but there are fewer visible bums than usual right now.

wdg
wdg

Just about everything is corrupt and rigged – unemployment is >20%, not under 5%; the inflation rate is 8-10%, not 1-2%; GDP has been negative since about 2000, except perhaps for one year; the stock, bond and real estate markets are one gigantic bubble; the Main Stream Media is Fake News writ large. And this is just a partial list since the real situation throughout the western world is grim and propped up by central banksters printing worthless Monopoly money to infinity. Currency debasement is sucking the wealth from honest workers and transferring it to political, financial and corporate parasites. The real economy is so distorted by easy money created out of thin air by the Fed and staggering malinvestment that it has become a dead man trudging along, lost and forlorn, looking for someplace to lay down and die. It is a Potemkin village with a facade of growth and normalcy to hide core of rot, endemic corruption, plunder, degeneracy and collapse on a monumental scale.

Diogenes
Diogenes

Well said wdg. Very pithy.

ASIG
ASIG

When you have open borders and allow anyone to come into the country who wants to come in you increase the number of people that need housing. As the demand for housing increases the cost of housing increases. The cost of housing in California has gotten so high it has driven more and more people into homelessness. How can anyone not see the connection between the flood of illegal immigrants, the shortage of housing, the high cost of housing and the increase numbers of homeless?

The Democrats are all in favor of more illegal immigration – it’s insane.

This will only get worse, allow all these people from shithole countries in and this country will become the same as the shitholes they came from.

James the Wanderer

We need a moratorium on immigration for at least 10 years, maybe longer. But the racist, socialist New York Times refuses to admit it, and those who depend on it for brainwashing cannot see how bringing refugees here, into a society that is foreign to them and they cannot comprehend, hurts them as much or more than leaving them where they are – in a society they at least understand.
It’s kind of ironic – the policies the Times espouses hurt the people they CLAIM to want to help more than leaving them alone would! Only a liberal …

doug
doug

Not just a moratorium–send ’em back in big numbers!

kevin
kevin

Imagine how kick-ass this country would be if instead of 320 million in it there was only say 240 million? I mean traffic jams might not disappear on the I-405 in L.A. or I-294/I-290 in Shitcago but it sure would be a lot better! And imagine how much rents could decrease or gas prices because demand would fall.

starfcker

ASIG, it’s not just the numbers of people that caused the rising housing costs. It’s not a supply and demand situation. It’s when you take those people and you pay $3,000 a month rent for them. If a Section 8 housing voucher was only five hundred bucks you can bet your ass rents would be much much cheaper. An old-school economic supply and demand rent has to be tied to wages.

22winmag - The South was Right (and slavery would have ended through legislation not war in the years to come, so don't give me that shit) What happened to places like Rhodesia and safe spaces for white folks? What comes next?
22winmag - The South was Right (and slavery would have ended through legislation not war in the years to come, so don't give me that shit) What happened to places like Rhodesia and safe spaces for white folks? What comes next?

Geez… greater Tampa is small potatoes compared to the OC.

TampaRed
TampaRed

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Zarathustra

This is fucking amazing. Such a sight would have been impossible to imagine in the US just a couple of decades ago. When I was a kid, the only visible homeless were a handful of drunks and bums who slept in the one public park downtown that permitted it.

I would bet that a lot of those homeless have low end jobs and just can’t afford housing, the price of which is fucking ridiculous in Orange County. Take a divorced man who has limited skills, toss in child support and a tent is probably all he can afford.

Llpoh
Llpoh

The average IQ of homeless in the US is 84. Additionally, 20% of the homeless have IQs below 70. What the fuck can those people, on average, do to earn a living? Not everything is a result of the 0.1%. Some things are because some people cannot add value or cannot perform tasks that have value to an employer.

The reality is that the middle class is not able to be sustained at the living standards that developed when manufacturing was the basis for that standard,and when no global competition existed.

Manufacturing used to employ half of all employees. It was not automated. Folks with modest skills and intelligence could make a middle class wage turning screws. Well, those jobs no longer exist. They have been automated away. Instead of 50% the current percent is now 8% of the population works in manufacturing – and that will continue to fall.

So what does that leave for the low skilled and low intelligence folks. Service work, that is what. And service work will never pay well. And if they try to force up service job wages, what happens? Why, those jobs are automated away too.

And what do the loony left suggest as the answer? Cheaper housing! What
they mean by that is free shit subsidized by the productive. That is the answer to everything – more free shit.

There is no answer.

Oh, and by the way, the disintegration of the family unit, largely caused by lefty welfare policies, is also a root cause of this crap. When families were stronger, those homeless had a place to go.

Wip
Wip

I wish you had an answer. How about war? Lots and lots of war ought to solve the problem. Ooops, war has been automated also. Fuckity fuck fuck fuck.

TampaRed
TampaRed

another factor–as a slumlord,the govt expects us to maintain our housing stock to certain levels–if i get hammered by code enforcement and i have to dump $ into a unit it’s bye bye low rent–

hardscrabble farmer

The truth is that there are plenty of tasks that they could do. They would have both a purpose and the dignity of being able to contribute what they can where they are needed, but the people who run things in this asylum would never allow it.

Llpoh
Llpoh

There is endless data on the demographics of the homeless. You can find race (20% black), age, sex (2/3 male), IQ, education levels, etc etc etc. This stuff has been researched minutely. Not just in the US but in Europe as well.

And the answer they come up with is we need cheap housing! Every time that is the answer. Can you imagine the amount of housing that would be required if you just started providing cheap housing to anyone claiming to be homeless? No one would ever work again.

MadMike
MadMike

How can this be?
Housing prices are so cheap in OC!
Income and property taxes are so low!

lmorris
lmorris

We as a nation been screwed blue and we will not recover.Big business don’t care they went overseas for cheat labor and the gov’t let them but they were brought off so all just crooks Every one can’t go to college and some are not good with money and on and on, For every person that cares there is one that does not give a shit I spent almost 10 yrs in the army couldn’t take that crap anymore but out here in the good life if you have no skills you are doomed I had 3 over the road trucks but each year the gov’t made it worse to be in business. So what is one to do?. I had 25 rentals all on sec 8 but taxes insurance and cost of keeping them up have made me sell most of them there were houses for low skilled people and selling them did not give me a lot after the sell not the kind of house you would sell to rich people I don’t have ans just been around and we can’t recover

slimy
slimy

I escaped crapifornia in 1988.
I knew it would become a third-world shit hole.
It will get worse. So much for diversity and affirmative action.

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