They’re not as smart as they think they are.
Guest post by Robert Gore at Straight Line Logic
1/17/18
If you draw your sustenance from the government—as an employee, contractor, or beneficiary of redistributed funds—the money you receive comes from someone who had no choice whether or not you got paid. Except for those jobs the government mandates, private sector workers’ compensation comes from employers who have freely chosen to pay it. The jobs they performs are worth more to their employers than what they’re paid, or the jobs wouldn’t exist.
Here’s a new definition of aristocrat: a person legally entitled to take money from other people without their consent. This definition focuses on what aristocrats do and have done throughout the centuries, regardless of their labels.
If you’re an aristocrat, the thought that you’re living on somebody else’s dime may cause psychological stress. All sorts of rationales have been concocted to justify this privileged position. The most straightforward is the protection racket. In exchange for their subjects’ money, aristocrats protect them from external invasion and preserve domestic order. It’s not a voluntary trade—the subjects can’t say no—but at least both sides get something from it.
However, “protection racket” doesn’t have quite the moral gloss aristocrats crave. Deities may not have been an aristocratic invention, but they jumped on the concept of divine favor to justify their position. It makes it harder to oppose the rulers if authority is bestowed by the gods or the government is a theocracy. Ultimately, regardless of rationale, the ideology always come down to: The aristocracy is superior to those they rule. The aristocrats have no trouble believing it; they have to psychologically justify their positions to themselves. The trick is to get the subjects to buy in.
In America, the myth is that the aristocracy is a meritocracy. Merit, in this formulation, means degrees from top academic institutions, and employment with government-aligned private sector firms, nonprofit organizations, and the government itself. Those who emerge from these backgrounds and worm their way to the top are the cream…or so the aristocrats like to believe. It can’t be labelled exclusionary, they claim, because many who make it came from modest beginnings: Truman, Eisenhower, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Clinton, and Obama.
The best and brightest notion crested with John F. Kennedy’s administration, stacked with Ivy Leaguers and whiz kids. David Halberstam, in his book The Best and the Brightest, asked how all that brain power managed to get us into the Vietnam mess. Hubris was the easy answer: they were smart but too cocky. However, another explanation surfaced, one the aristocracy resisted. In 2016 and 2017 it exploded into the popular consciousness.
These last two years have revealed a simple truth: regardless of résumés, the aristocrats are nowhere near as bright as they think they are. For instance, the identity politics so many have fecklessly pushed completely undermines their own meritocracy myth.
Barack Obama became president because he was black, not because of anything he had done in academia, as a community organizer, or in politics. Hillary Clinton was next in line because she was a woman. Without her husband, the world would have never heard of her. How, as an aristocrat, can you argue for your own special merit when you’ve replaced the idea of merit with race, gender, and ethnicity? An aristocracy that no longer has its mythical basis is left with the blandishments of power and treasure—and the armed might of the state—and is on its way out. The Divine Right of Kings notion died before Europe’s absolute monarchies crumbled.
In their self-congratulatory isolation, enjoying only the support which they had bought and paid for (with other people’s money), America’s aristocrats had no idea that millions of America’s had rejected their pompous posturing. Hillary Clinton couldn’t convincingly answer why she was running for president, yet she was presented as an exemplar of merit and ability. Even many of her own supporters didn’t buy it, but the aristocrats shut their eyes and foisted her on the voters.
Donald Trump’s greatest achievement has been his exposure of the hypocrisy, corruption, and stupidity of America’s aristocrats. Even as he mowed down Republican contenders and it was clear his message was resonating with substantial numbers of voters, they dismissed him. November 8, 2016 shattered for good the myth—in force since Franklin Roosevelt and his New Deal whiz kids—of the exceptional aristocracy.
If the aristocracy is unexceptional, it has no basis for its pretension and condescension. It takes smarts to graduate from Harvard Law School. But it also takes smarts—which the aristocrats either don’t recognize or disparage—to run a business, operate complicated machine tools, fly a jet, harvest crops, design a semiconductor, or build office towers.
The elite don’t even acknowledge that their sustenance comes from the entrepreneurs, builders, and doers they deride. Nothing could have been more symbolically appropriate than the aristocracy’s take down by a businessman who had never held a government job. Most of the aristocracy knows very little about actual business and the world of real work. (Cocktail parties with Silicon Valley CEOs don’t count.) Trump, on the other hand, has had extensive dealings with politicians, bureaucrats, and the government.
Compounding stupidity, the aristocracy bet on Russiagate in a vain attempt to drive out the interloper and preserve its position. The story was so transparently thin that nobody really believed it, but it was all they had and they were desperate. It has boomeranged disastrously, giving Trump ample ammunition for counterattack. It has also destroyed the credibility of the FBI and the Department of Justice.
Even if the aristocracy recovers and drives Trump from office, there’s no going back. The aristocratic illusion has been shattered. Their claims of superiority are nothing more than self-serving screeches of denial. Contempt has replaced whatever respect Americans once had for their rulers. The bought-and-paid-for’s loyalty extends only to the next payday. When the payola ends, chaos begins. Funded as it is by debt and taxes on increasingly restive producers, the payola will end.
A ruling class that has lost its last vestige of legitimacy has nothing but force and fear to perpetuate its rule. The nation will grow more bitterly fractured as the skims and scams fall apart. The American aristocracy had better be sure its surveillance apparatus is in order, that it has the wherewithal to pay the military and police, and that it has infiltrated the populace with trustworthy informants and quislings, if that’s not a contradiction in terms.
Even with all those “assets,” the aristocracy is vastly outnumbered and has no moral force against the disgusted and the enraged, who every year have less to lose. Force and fear are the last refuges of doomed regimes. It all may collapse of its own unsustainable weight or there may be chaos and bloodshed, but regardless of the ultimate outcome, the aristocracy’s days are numbered.
And after the downfall, mercy will be in short supply.
Robert – Well said; perfectly exemplified by Obama’s infamous comment: “You didn’t build that”.
Yea. That is one of the many comments that pisses me off the most. I spent 17 years working 80-100 hours a week building a business. That black, stupid son-of-bitch never lifted a single f’n finger to help. In fact he, through his stupid regulations has caused me nothing but grief. I hate that bastard.
There, now everyone knows what type of a day I am having.
Obama and nearly everyone in politics are so fucking ignorant. Like you, I found the phrase “They didn’t build that” to be the epitome of massive ignorance. Leftists are so disconnected from facts, logic and history and they REMAIN that way. That’s why no one can argue with them, they just get confused and end the conversation with “you’re a racist.”
America was built by people such as Rockefeller, Getty, Morgan, Carnegie, Edison, Ford, Vanderbilt and Westinghouse. And it was all private investment. They and their kind built ALL of the pipelines, railroads, industries, and businesses that made America the most prosperous and economically free nation in the history of the world. Their achievements made the US the envy of the World. It was private enterprise, not government, which radically improved this country’s standard of living. In fact, it was success of private enterprise which eventually enabled and funded social safety nets (the first in the world), national parks and environmental remediation.
Some dipshit Liberal might say that the US government built the interstate highway system as proof of their big-government idiocy, but that was in the 50s and 60s when the govt could actually accomplish something. But all of the freeways in this country could have been built as toll roads and operated by private enterprise. If that had happened, we wouldn’t need a 38 cent gasoline tax that’s being pissed away like the rest of tax revenue to the US Govt. If we had the system of private toll roads, we wouldn’t be pissing and moaning about this particular aspect of our decaying infrastructure.
I have three words for the US government bureaucracy: BURN IT DOWN
As Mellish said to Upham prior to the battle of Ramelle: “Should be quite a show”.
Deities absolutely are an aristocratic invention. I encourage you to suffer through the books of Leviticus and Numbers. They are a laundry list of fines to be paid to the priesthood for non-sensical “sins” like taking a dump on the Sabbath (cost: 2 doves).
You should post that particular law by its chapter and verse.
That’s the proper way to quote from the Bible.
Apologies. The regulation in question is found in Leviticus chapter 15, the fine is specified in verses 14 and 29 for men and women respectively. These regulations also cover nocturnal emissions and menstruation. I should note that pigeons are also an acceptable form of payment.
I think you’ve seriously misread that law, it concerns an infection with an infectious discharge, or a discharge of semen, from the penis, not normal bowl functions.
The pigeons are not a fine paid to the Priests, they are given as a sin offering and burnt offering given to perform a ritual of cleansing and atonement.
Thanks for clearing that up. I’ll make sure I don’t get a dick infection on the Sabbath. Or menstruate. Or evacuate my bowel, for good measure.
Anonymous,
I’ll put good old Leviticus and Numbers on the reading list, but it may take some time. The list is already very long.
Robert, do not read those books if you are sleepy.
Or on psychiatric meds.
Actually, they are a fun read. Leviticus will have you laughing out loud in parts.
100!!!
All kidding aside, excellent piece (if not an awful header- who is that fat slob?).
Here’s the thing. Human behavior has two drivers, the individual and the collective. The Individual is moved by desires and hungers hard wired into the organism and virtually none can escape their DNA, no matter how hard they may try. Individuals may cause harm to other individuals, but it represents a drop in the bucket compared to what the force of entire Collectives can achieve if motivated. The Collective has it’s own purpose, but it is always at the expense of the Individual.
Most people suffer from myopia of the self. They know what they want to eat, when they want to sleep or party, whom they want to hump, when they want to put in the effort or sit back and chill. Occasionally they may find themselves a part of the Collective- in a crowd at a game, on New Years Eve, at weddings or graduation parties, in military units or on teams, but rarely ever as a normal course of events. Because of this they know very little about the dynamics of the Collective in the same way that most people eat but very few actually produce their own sustenance. Food comes from the grocery store or McDonald’s, but it origins are shrouded in mystery.
If my cows get out I know how to get them back in easily. It’s almost fun. Ask someone who knows nothing about the dynamics of the herd to do it and they’d be completely lost and would almost always pick the wrong tactic (don’t chase them, don’t yell, don’t even act like you care).
This is where the elites have the edge. Because most elites or aristocrats are dynastic they have generations of shared information that they can pass on, the experience of dealing with trouble below, how to get rid of troublesome interlopers, how to stay aloof and keep cool when things are FUBAR. They treat the Collective as another kind of domesticated animal and because most people aren’t even aware that they are part of one, that they perceive themselves as independent with their own ideas and choices they move right along where the aristocrats want them to go. Like a voting booth, which even looks like a tagging chute. “Look, I voted!” they proclaim to everyone with the little sticker that reminds me of ear tags. No, you were led to the voting booth.
So, are they special, gifted, deserving, better than the human cattle they oversee? No, not really, just better informed about the dichotomy of human behavior and far more willing to use whatever human version of a grain bucket works in order to keep things moving along to their satisfaction. All the fences you see on a farm aren’t to keep the animals in, they’re meant to keep the animals OUT- of the gardens, the house, the yard, the orchards, etc. Like the photo montage I posted yesterday of the homes of the elites, they are barricaded up against the Collective because they know what happens should they stray into the private spaces of their masters.
You nailed it when you said it was an illusion, because that is precisely what their edge has always been and it is a thin and tattered one these days-
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HSF
Wow, seriously, you’ve said many things I’ve thought over many years but could have never been able to convey. Almost brings tears to my eyes. It’s been going on for thousands of years.
Gore
Whether or not politicians are now “elected” for ability, intelligence or skin color, is anyone worthy of ruling?
They use every part of human nature to pull the wool over our eyes. They are the ultimate grifters.
Your going to give Maggie a conniption fit. The rabbits will have hell to pay tonight.
Okay, Robert, here’s my comment, tucked away here where it isn’t intended to bother or detract. A post or two ago, I mentioned your style reminds me of my own father’s essays, at least early in his “career” as an editorial opinion homespun taleteller local historian writer and photographer for the local paper, high school and community at large. Black and white darkroom at the farm.
The Aristocracy of Himmel
You may or may not have surmised that I indeed grew up on a small family farm in dirt valley Missouri where my grandfather had settled when the national government saw national interest in a project to drain the many hundreds of thousands of acres of fertile swampland in the Mississippi Flood Plain of Southeast Missouri, Southwest Illinois, Northwest Kentucky, Northwest Tennessee and Northeast Arkansas, where they all came together in one big happy pool of water called the Gulf of Mexico millions of years ago. I.e., the ocean came up to the foothills of the Ozarks. Since I’m just a bit higher than that now by 75 to 100 miles, I’m hoping for beachfront property once again when the ocean rises back to here. Apparently, there was a number of climate changes which occurred at some point in the global history. There are even skeletal remains of man close to some of the aquatic layers, suggesting Native Americans were here long before some thought. Of course, it could also mean the ocean receded from the hills a lot more recently than OTHERS thought. It is all about perception, isn’t it?
So, having run that one by you in a long-winded blurb, I will get to the point. For some reason your writing reminds me of my father’s early essays. I mentioned that made me sad and realized when you answered there really doesn’t seem to be much to say to that without further information. So, to make sure you understand it is NOT an insult, I have scanned a couple of pages from a “collection” of his submissions to the local newspaper in the community to let you read them and see if you agree that some of your topics and even phraseology is similar, though you do not show the same tendency to stray off topic as my father. (I told my father one time I thought his tendency to let his phrases intersect and veer off into the new direction unwarned was annoying. My father did NOT like advice from me, even after I got myself credentialed by the Journalism School at OU.)
Anyway, my father wrote this little “column” for the local paper off and on for probably 30 years. No pay, but he could have as much of a certain amount of the space available and more, if he really needed it and could fill up the pages. Since the owner/editor of the local paper had been there since the 1960s, well, you’ll see… he’s in this selection of Himmel Post Office articles.
Even though my father and I disagreed on many things, I have always admired these early Himmel Post Office articles because he documents a period of my life that I believe caused my country and many of my countrymen to lose their collective mind. And he documents it through a very sage set of eyes, born in the Great Depression and forged in the POW Camp of Zentsugi, Japan from the time he was 19 until 23 plus. His writing really is sometimes tedious, but at that time, I was the closest to an “editor/reviewer” he had (only kid at home) and he NEVER listened to my advice. Locals seemed to love the articles, but since they were short and usually had some interesting character or animal or even my mother mentioned (which she hated) and later, grandkids’ antics woven into stories about bobcats and coyotes.
He was a man of unique character and experience, so a comparison to him in any form is not an insult. It is a compliment. And so, I offer this as a complement to your article… The one in particular I believe to be relevant is titled Good Citizens or Hogs, March 81. I was busy typing his World World II memoirs in my spare time at college, so had nothing to do with this set of articles he submitted. These are all on his “editor” at the paper, which cracks me up because I know what the paper really was.
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By the way? This is a photograph I took of my father when visiting the farm one time. We were there for his 80th birthday celebration in 2002, I think. He was still writing the Himmel Post Office articles then, I think.
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At his funeral I told about being “counseled” inside that post office as a teen, having brought home a message about disrespect for a teacher at school. I was told that trying to impress friends was an ordinary sort of mistake, but he really hoped that I would learn to make the sort of decisions about my actions that would be kind of extraordinary. I pointed to his casket, which was closed to hide the ravages of the last months in bed, and said, honestly, “I might never know if any of us can make choices that classify us as extraordinary, but I know that all of us here knew one man who did.”
So, Robert. Not an insult at all. But, still, a wee bit sad.
P.S. He had feet sized 14 quadruple E most of my life. Toward the end, a 16D seemed okay for him. That’s why the giant feet on the caricature, which he drew, by the way. A truly unique man.
Maggie
I read your father’s articles. It’s an honor to be compared to him. He had a gift for saying a lot without a lot of words, in a way that people would feel compelled to read. I think there are similarities between him and Hardscrabble Farmer, too. It’s sad he’s gone, but you were lucky to have him.
Glad you see what I mean.
Thank you, Maggie. He writes like I imagine he talked; the highest compliment I can think of.
The last few years were hard ones. Watching someone lose their mind and their ability to use it is terribly hard to do.
Someone downthumbed me for the subcomment about my father. That’s harsh, eh?
The rabbits are safely ensconced under the chicken coop with hay and bunny kibble. No coyotes tonight.
This is at Silver Bear, but on a subscription only link. I donated a time or two many years ago and why the hell should he care if I still look?
Anyway, try the link and see if it requires a login. If so, too bad. Send him $20 or so.
http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/01.18/wildpig.html
How To Capture a Wild Pig: The Allure of Free Stuff and New Tech
Joe Jarvis
The tale of how to catch a wild pig deserves more detail.
A smart farmer knew that if he went out with his dogs and nets and cattle prods to capture wild pigs that the pigs would run amok. It would take tremendous energy to round them up. They would violently resist. Some would get away. Some would fight back and possibly injure him or his dogs.
And when he finally got them in the pen, his troubles would only be starting. He would have to build the pen to withstand extreme pressure from within. The pigs would try to escape. They may refuse to eat. They would resist any kind of intervention he may attempt, from medical treatment to pen improvements.
So the smart farmer instead threw some food in one of his fields. Soon enough, wild pigs came to eat the food. But they quickly scurried away anytime they saw the farmer. This went on for a week until the pigs hardly even noticed the farmer across the field.
The next week when the pigs came to eat in the field, there were three posts with boards nailed across them horizontally. The pigs sniffed around on every side of the new structure but didn’t seem to find anything threatening about it. To be safe, they ate quickly and took off as soon as they caught a glimpse of the farmer.
By the end of the week, everything went back to normal, and the pigs hardly noticed when the farmer appeared.
The following week, another two posts and horizontal boards showed up. The pigs did their due diligence and sniffed around every side of the board and posts. But again, nothing seemed amiss. They quickly got used to the change.
The next week the posts and boards remained the same, and the food was left where it always was. The pigs ate the food and when they were done, they noticed another smell. It was peanut butter, but it was jammed inside cavernous pitted balls. This turned out to be great fun for the pigs to try to get the delicious peanut butter out. When the ball slipped and rolled away they squealed with delight and chased it down once more.
When the third fence went up, enclosing the food on three sides, the pigs barely noticed because they were so excited to play with the peanut butter toys.
When it started to the rain the next week, the farmer came out with a big umbrella. But his approach startled the pigs and they ran a short distance away before turning around to watch suspiciously. The farmer drove the umbrella into the ground and walked away. The pigs returned to the food and were delighted to stay dry while eating. The next time the farmer approached the pigs hardly paid him any mind.
Every day the pigs came into the U shaped corral to eat. They enjoyed the shade from the sun and rain. They stayed to play after each meal. And the farmer now regularly watched their antics with a friendly smile.
One day when the pigs were eating they heard loud howls off in the woods. Startled, they began to run but quickly realized they were running towards the sounds of the beasts. They bolted back into the three-sided pen and cowered in the corner. As the wolves emerged from the woods and advanced, the pigs squealed with fear.
But the farmer ran to their rescue and swung closed a metal gate–that the pigs had not noticed–forming the fourth and final fence of the square pen.
The canines approached and circled the pen but relief overcame the pigs as they realized they were safely protected by the fence. Soon they were back to eating and playing.
In fact, the pigs became so relaxed, that they didn’t even notice the dogs trot obediently beside the farmer as he walked back to the farmhouse.
The Pigs and Pens Today
We all know what happens to the pigs next. They aren’t pets. They are commodities to be slaughtered.
And I used to think of the slaughter quite literally. Considering past governments run by the likes of Stalin and Mao, this made sense. But the “slaughter” of most people caught by the farmer will not be literal.
It could be the butchering of a way of life as you abandon your small business to obtain healthcare working for a corporation. It could be killing your passion as they crack down on cryptocurrencies or arrest marijuana cultivators. It could be the death of privacy or self-sufficiency.
It could be the slaughtering of independence and freedom, as you depend on the government for food and housing. That is the most obvious lesson from the tale.
I always thought about the original pig story as a reference mostly to the welfare state. Clearly, the government is the farmer and he makes the pigs dependent on him with free handouts. Soon the pigs could not find their own food even if they wanted to.
The tale also refers to defense. The pigs never consider themselves trapped, only defended. After all, they have more within the pen than they ever had outside of it! And while wolves do exist in nature, the farmer did not have to fend off real wolves to convince the pigs they needed his protection.
Government “benefits” like “free” food and protection only make you weak and dependent.
But the farmer doesn’t have to represent a government. Tech companies these days offer free and cheap products and services. It’s fun and convenient to be a customer of these companies. But were the pigs the customer of the farmer?
Of course not. The pigs were the product. If a company isn’t making money from you, then you aren’t the customer, you are the product.
And this is the dilemma. The pigs could choose to eat out in the rain or play with rocks instead of peanut butter toys. But that is a lower quality of life. How do they take advantage of the umbrella and the peanut butter toy, without the farmer watching them?
I used to think the only solution was to remain a wild pig and go without the comforts of modern society. And I won’t lie; it sometimes seems tempting to go off grid and be self-sufficient.
Could the pigs have found natural shade? Yes, but not as advanced and well placed as the farmer’s umbrella. The pigs had food and fun in the wild, but not as easy and enticing as what the farmer provided.
Modern technology amplifies your efforts. There is more knowledge in the palm of your hand than in the largest library on Earth. There are more tools of production in the palm of your hand than existed on Earth 30 years ago. The infinite entertainment in the palm of your hand makes technology that much more appealing.
But there are ways to enjoy the comforts and benefits of modern technology without becoming trapped by it.
And although we have touched on the subject before, it deserves its own dedicated article.
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HF asks,”All kidding aside, excellent piece (if not an awful header- who is that fat slob?)”.
It is called “Fat Aristocrat”
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Artist: Arda Koyuncu
Arda writes, “Modeling, texturing, shading, facial expressions and hair on Fat Aristocrat’s head for Assassin’s Creed Unity Cinematic. I have started from a headscan, repaired and polished the model. Make-up and the hair are from scratch.”
you speak the gospel on cattle psychology……..till there is one goofy calf that hasn’t been counseled on the basics of herd mentality 101.
Despite the image, I think you see the Aristocracy through history continue to press for payment. The British and the Indian continent is a fine example,because when they failed in Afghanistan they showed they where not omnipotent and Gandhi rubbed salt into the wound. Russia also failed in that place and the Iron curtain was found to be paper. The Current stooge (es) will be worn down until the coalition of the willing and the people say “No I will not pay for your pride with the blood from the fruit of my loins” Then many things will reset in a void of …. fear (I guess) or hope …. but hope sucks as a plan.
Seems the Ceaușescu Solution is in the zeitgeist. I’m bombshell beleaguered. One more earth-shattering revelation and I’m going shatter my penchant for due process. The Powerful love this stylized kabuki drip-drip. Meanwhile the peeps are itching for a bread-and-circus bloodfest.
HSF,
The comparison of humanity to a herd of domesticated animals is particularly apt.
The majority of notable leaders in the Old Testament were shepherds first.
Another thing about these ‘elites’ is that they are not nearly as in step with each other as most people think they are. Oh, they might be in general agreement about where they want to go, but they are constantly fighting each other, too. And they seem to, more often than not, jump too soon. Not the brightest bulbs, they just have a fierce single-mindedness fueled by almost unlimited funds. Our only respite has been that they shoot themselves in the foot a lot. That doesn’t stop them, just slows ’em down a bit.
Spot on Robert, thank you!
I just read something on Breitbart about Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC) calling us “ignoble” as if it was an insult. Unlike the aristocrats we are common people and I accept the label with pride. I am an ignoble deplorable!
#ignoble #deplorable or maybe #ignobledeplorable
“Donald Trump’s greatest achievement has been his exposure of the hypocrisy, corruption, and stupidity of America’s aristocrats”
Are you kidding me?? When Donald Trump starts supporting policies like equitable taxation for EVERYONE, and single payer healthcare, that will benefit us members of the working class that elected him thinking that he was truly on our side, I will consider him to have exposed the hypocracy and corruption of the aristocrats.
Single payer healthcare, like the NHS in the U.K.?
No thanks. The upper echelons will pay to see private doctors, but “us members of the working class” will find very long waits for everything in a single payer world. Obamacare on steroids.
AlsoTrapped,
I presume that you thoroughly enjoy paying, via your health insurance premium, the eight figure salary of the CEO of your health insurance carrier from which you receive nothing in return. There are more than enough examples of other places around the world where single payer work. In addition, health outcomes in countries with single payer, or a form of it, are better than under our wonderful private health insurance which mostly goes to fatten the wallet of those that pretend to provide it.
Colin – you dumbfuck. Name the places where single payer “works”. That comment makes you eligible for village idiot status.
Let’s see. I’m on technically single payer known as Medicare. It seems to work pretty well.
Wait ’till everyone else in the country is on Medicare, then you’ll see how well it works.
What would be different? There are 50 million people on Medicare. There are 180 million people on private insurance. Is it worse for them? All Medicare does is pay the bills.
troll
The NHS is more than single payer. It is actual government health care like the VA. Single payer is just an entity that pays the bills, more like medicare. Doctors and hospitals would remain private.
Single payer healthcare is not in accordance with the Constitution. Even if we had it, I don’t see it as a net plus to the working class.
TJF,
There is nothing in the Constitution about health insurance, whether public or private. Thus that is a moot point. I suppose you also enjoy supporting the lifestyle of the eight figure CEOs.
Exactly. Nothing in there and the Constitution lists the powers that the people and the states allow the Federal government to have, thus it is unconstitutional. If someone wants it, then there needs to be an amendment. Otherwise it is illegal.
You have single payer now, all over the country. It’s called health insurance. How many different entities pay for your health care?
By what logic and legal precedent does you statement hold true?
Single payer? You dummy
He mensa e pluribus unum payer.
Glad we don’t have “equitable taxation”–paying almost 50% like the top percenters do would break me.
All of that aside, I AM for a simple flat tax ( in reality there is not supposed to be a tax on your labours at all!). Corporate, business, sales, even VAT are a totally different issue. Individuals are not legally required to pay taxes on the fruits of their labor–this illegal confiscation has been perpetuated for over 100 years now and is nary impossible to fight TPTB in a court ( which is paid by taxpayers of course.)
Just because Trump wars with other aristocrats doesn’t mean he is not one of them.
Conservatism is the politics of monarchs. In fact, the main supporters of conservative politics are royalty, the military, and the church.
In the US Revolutionary War, the supporters of King George and monarchical rule were the conservatives- better known as Tories.
It’s the leftists that rose up to challenge monarchy.
Robert,
Excellent post.
“Those who emerge from these backgrounds and worm their way to the top are the cream…or so the aristocrats like to believe.”
Yea, the old truism the cream rises to the top has its place…but too many others of the powdered wig class have also risen to the top, the scum.
Which leads me to another one of your lines I’m all in with as I curl my lips in a snarl:
“Contempt has replaced whatever respect Americans once had for their rulers.”
And your strong close: “And after the downfall, mercy will be in short supply.”
Lets give them a fair trial before we tar and feather them at the hangings.
“Those who emerge from these backgrounds and worm their way to the top are the cream…or so the aristocrats like to believe.”
Shit floats…
Concur. Excellent job Robert… Chip
It is possible the aristocrats are entrenched far deeper than imagined; at least the central players.
This is true, but even those waking up to the matrix still find themselves in chains to an extent. Trump’s win may have been by design in order to for the Deplorables to be drawn out – like a last cleaning house measure prior to tearing down an old structure and before building a brand new, shiny (electronic / cashless) prison for debtors and deplorables alike.
Trump owns the stock market right now and the 50+% of American Loonies are very motivated for political wins this year. Hate is a powerful motivator. What do you think the odds are for a controlled-demolition financial markets correction before this year’s mid-term elections? I would say pretty high; and the economic misery will continue building right up through November, 2o20. It will only add fuel to the fire. Trump will be blamed
The sheeple at that point might just be braying for the aristocrats to feed them cake; as soon as they put away their pitchforks and torches after Trump’s wake.
Not trying to be overly pessimistic at this time; just hoping for the best, while mentally preparing for the worst. I have two essays in my head that may be forthcoming on these topics. We’ll see…
Excellent piece, Robert, as usual. Thank you.
“It takes smarts to graduate from Harvard Law School.” Okayyyy. And how do you explain obongo? ???
I was being charitable to the other side.
Good article!
There are quite a few things that are nothing more than illusions in our modern society. It’s not just the so-called elites. Think of the banking system. That whole thing is smoke and mirrors that only works because people believe in it, or more than likely, are not bothered to even think about it.
Generous to a fault I’d say.
Graduating from a prestigious institution doesn’t automatically means that you went through all the rigorous methods or tests that made it prestigious in the first place. Corruption and favors exists in all places.
Not that I didn’t miss your sarcasm 🙂
Nice article Robert. However, I think tRump is still part of the aristocracy.
Today’s Oligarchs are the worst of the worst. Never before have they had “The Plan” to kill 95% of their slaves (ref the Georgia Guidestones) for nothing. Normal owners would sell their slaves for profit, not just kill women and children to create a “Cauldron of Evil” on Gaia for themselves and their Lord Satan. Nobody in their right mind would make bargains with Satan or Reptilian Aliens; or sexually abuse children and then allow their Priests to sacrifice them to Satan. Thank God for Jesus and pray enough good people help Trump put these Evil Oligarchs in prison.
So, aristocrats are leeches who feed off regular folk? Who woulda think it? In tomorrow’s news … water is still wet.
The author writes —- ” … the aristocracy’s days are numbered. And after the downfall, mercy will be in short supply.”
Pandering bullshit to please the easily fooled. Tough talk about no mercy being shown. Haha in your dreams, goreboy. But, hey, folks will fall over themselves letting you know how terrific this piece was. Stir em up! Fuck yeah, revenge is coming! You certainly know who butters your bread. Mission accomplished … albeit at the cost of honesty.
Their days are numbered? Who in the fuck are you kidding?? What can you point to that shows even a hint that their days are numbered?
Local, State, and Federal Employees number about 25 MILLION …. they make the rules and laws. Yeah, I’m sure their days are numbered. And then half the country gets some kind of benefit check from the government. Aristocrats are here for the long haul. Your hopey stuff is dopey.
Stuck – someone piss in your cornflakes this morning?
I thought the same thing, but was not going to say it. But hey, I love a good piling on. There is zero indication the elites are in trouble. Too many people are on their payroll, and they vote. One of the reasons I am in Oz. Same bullshit here, but lots easier to get lost.
Lol
No one pisses in my cornflakes, and lives.
I’ve been waaay to agreeable lately. This is not good. I feel like a phony baloney.
There are a few recurring themes around this joint that are starting to piss me off. Am I a man or a mouse? I must rise up from the ashes and proclaim truth throughout the land.
The rich are fucked and will get their comeuppance is one such idea.
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To HF below
Yeah, that picture is real relevant to the USA today.
You’re a big Fukuyama fan, huh?
This time it’s different.
“I’ve been waaay to agreeable lately.”
Prolly ’cause you’re rollin’ in that Benz, yo.
“What can you point to that shows even a hint that their days are numbered?”
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I don’t think we have Esso stations anymore. What will we do?
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The only reason that happened, as I understand it, was because of other countries.
The US would have to be losers in a war on our soil.
Was that an epic take-down?
The above photo is of Mussolini and Claretta, correct? Who were they fleeing?
Mussolini allied himself with Hitler, relying on the German dictator to prop up his leadership during World War II, but he was killed shortly after the German surrender in Italy in 1945.
If not for a world war (other countries), would he have fled, been caught and executed?
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Splendid couture! And those women!! Poor Chauncey grows excited, against all odds. Even an 85 year old man can feel a stirring at the sight of such attractive and stylish women.
Perhaps it is the unmistakable signs of intelligence and personality, of awareness, in their faces. So many women these days stumble about with the vacant cowlike expressions on their faces, heads down, staring at their electronic controllers which are held in their own compliant hands.
Uh Chauncey, if you put those gals in suits I daresay you couldn’t distinguish them from men; except they don’t sport facial hair.
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You get the idea.
For some reason Americans really do believe in exceptionalism, that somehow they are exempt from the wages of iniquity. History tends to disprove that notion.
But then again, maybe you’re right, maybe this time it is different.
HSF – killing off a few elite does not eliminate the elite. Quite the contrary. They are oft like the hydra – cut off one head, and many more sprout. The cutting off is oft undertaken and agitated for by those wishing to surplant them, and that is what generally happens. New boss same as the old boss.
For instance, who took over after the “overthrow” of Ceausescu in Romania? Umm, that would be former members of his party, who were ruthless in their grab for power. Who took over in Russia? Who took over in France?
Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. In some cases, like in Russia, worse than it ever was.
Llpoh – As you said. They have no more regard for each other than they do us.
I never suggested that humanity was about to make some kind of quantum leap into a new creature, we are what we are. However there are always change of command ceremonies taking place and the current crowd is not looking like they are going to skate this time.
Maybe.
Maybe not.
I wanted to comment on this thread earlier but have been so damn sick with a flu bug that I could barely form a coherent sentence the last few days. So I’m late to the party.
History has a theme to it and the one constant in all of it is ‘change’. We are suffering from the bias of believing ‘it can never change’ because we have been watching the old order become so entrenched over time that it never occurs to us that things can be different. I would add that many of us are also realists who see ourselves in the proper context of these events. We are observers, not active participants, who will be either the beneficiaries or the victims of the outcome of this ‘change’. This viewpoint, which is to a large extent correct, also creates a level of cynicism. When we lack control of something we have a tendency to try and ignore it because we feel we cannot change it.
What is happening, as best as I can tell, is a civil war within the system itself for control of the institutions that are responsible for governing us. But the war is not being waged with bullets and bombs, it is being waged with information, propaganda and the mechanisms of the state itself. It’s hard to see it because you are living IN it and are not directly involved in deciding its outcome.
We are the little people so mostly what we do is sit and watch and discuss. The big players are in this to the end at this point though. There will be winners and losers and it will play out over a longer period of time than most of us would like. I suspect many will become impatient and either write these events off as ‘nothing’ or abandon paying attention altogether. But the battle will go on until one side or the other is defeated. Then things will change again.
HSF,
We certainly hope they won’t skate, and evidence is
mounting against one group anyway. Imagine the nerve
of the heads of “law and order” agencies, and their well paid
flunkies, to flaunt all semblance of even any decency.
Cracks me up in one sense, and their downfall might go
a long way to satisfying the drive for revenge many are
feeling. We can be as uncivilized as they are (just a few
weeks) and seek revenge without conscience. God will
look the other way.
yeah–and the leaders of the French revolution also met the guillotine shortly after they had ousted the monarchy…….
We just need to leave the gallows up as a warning to the next crop of usurpers.
Usurpers beget usurpation. That’s sword life. “Tonite, Luca Brasi sleeps with the swordfishes.”
Not to mention “Tonite, let it be Low(en)brow.”
I agree with your sentiment to some extent. But remember, out of that 25 million I would say at least half believe in doing something for the greater good. Yes governments at all levels are too big. But maybe more folk are waking up to that fact. We don’t see this movement at any governmental level … yet … but my hope, and the reason Robert’s post appeals to me, is that we’re witnessing peak government… Chip
If you are part of the gov’t then you are to never be trusted for you are either a liar or a lazy prick
Like most aristocracies, the members in Washington of this one mostly seem resemble of a freak show.
I do wonder how many of them knowingly choose this attitude, or if it’s mostly the result of them being conned with sins like pride, greed, etc.
In any case, the result is the same. Shit Floats.
Stucky is right.These fools are not going anywhere without totally Destroying the nation in a bloody civil war.You will have to kill these treasonous son of a bitches to unlodge them from their forts.
Most white Americans are still well fed and very comfortable .They will never do anything until they have no other choice.By then it will probably be to late.Maybe it already is.
Yeah, and then the only choice will be to kill the order-takers (police & military) and not the fat pricks who gave the orders.
Well Stucky, you might well be right, but Bob wrote a really good article and you have to give him that. It is clear and concise and to the point and does not take ten pages to explain what it is all about. He has stepped up his game and that challenges you to step up your game. It is easy to say that all is lost and that we are doomed. That is what almost everyone on TBP does most of the time. It is the rays of sunshine that pierce the gloom that perhaps point the way to a better future.
I would argue that the only way towards that better future is the way which leads away from these horrible people. They will not change, and there are more of them waiting to take their places should they fall. I don’t see that greed has any need of intelligence. These are not the smartest people in the room. They are the most ruthless, lying, deceitful, cruel people who inhabit this simple little rock floating in the trackless wastes of a boundless universe. As long as those without power allow those with power to be corrupt, then they will be corrupt. As long as we, being the stupid people that we are, think that a democrat is better than a republican or a republican is better than a democrat, we will be doomed to live under an ever efficient tyranny. It is up to you to stop the tyranny. If you don’t like Bob’s way, then come up with one of your own.
But recognize that writing good words is always better than a disconnected rant…as much fun as a good rant can be.
My game is just fine.
Robert Gore likes to play it safe. Safe topics, safe conclusions. He avoids controversy as if it were a Mortal Sin. Nothing here that is new. Nothing here that makes you say “hmmm, now that’s interesting”. Some people like that sort of thing, and that’s fine. Some people like warm milk. I prefer Yaegermeister.
Ick. Too sweet.
Stroh Rum.
Or Crown Royal XR.
I like Crown Royal Apple. The Maple is TOO sweet. But, all in all, Jack Daniels is the hard stuff of choice around here.
Seems to be in most places. Was my go-to for a lot of years.
Good post HR. I also see Stucky’s point of view although I’m hoping Robert’s is correct. We’ll see. A LOT of shit is coming out right now. Let’s see if anything happens with it over the next six months or so. The wheels of the governmental machine move slower than any of us would like. But the swamp IS being exposed… Chip
Thomas Paine penned “The Crisis”on a drumhead. There was no Internet, it was read by fewer people than stop by to check out TBP on any given day. It was, by word count, almost exactly the same length as the average essay posted here including Mr. Gore’s latest. It has been said that it played a role in turning the public tide from defeatism to inspired and it ended with these words-
“By perseverance and fortitude have the prospect of a glorious issue, by cowardice and the sad choice of a variety of evils– a ravaged country–a depopulated city–habituations without safety, and slavery without hope–our homes turned into barracks . . . .”
Everyone has choices on the personal level. Everyone gives in to hopelessness and breakdown and it looks- quite often- that there is no way to prevail, but sometimes the tides of fortune turn in our favor. And this time they may not, perhaps as so many others have said, we are at the end of history, that from here on forward there is nothing but abasement and abject servitude, dissolution and subjugation.
Who knows?
But it sure feels better to believe in what is right.
Yes, Yes, that’s what I want to see. Thank you.
Its a year later and still waiting. If Trump is draining the swamp he still hasn’t pulled the plug. Yeah the piece is well written but it does pander to the hopes that aristocat Trump has the means and will to deliver comeuppance.
Queue aside and still waiting.
If he doesn’t pull the plug before October it will be too late and never will take place. The controlled demolition of the stock market suggested by Unicola above will hearld a democrat take down election to rival the debacle of 1964. Lamenably, that allowed LBJ unlimited action until 1966. We are still paying for that election and will never recover. TRUMP will be out of office by April of 2019 and very likely in prison by August. Unlikely that President Harris will reduce his sentence in 2021. This written by a person wbo voted to drain the swamp in 2016. Didn’t realize how deep the muck and stickey the mud. Apparently, you can’t get out of quicksand with your own efforts as others who have resecue gear stand by and gawk, mock and clutch pearls.
Disagree, they will never push Trump out of office. Too many decent people in his base of support that I don’t think will “allow” that to happen. That IMO will force a civil war although on exactly what scale I’m not sure. The MSM is being exposed. Trump’s targeted and labeled them as “fake news” and that’s gaining a lot of steam. All the labels he’s given foes in the past have stuck just like he did in the primary. I’ve got another one for him he needs to tweet out, “Shutdown Schumer”… 😀
No the “them” without the “us.”
& “us” has gotta’ have its heroes to worship, & warships to heroic-virtue signal.
Pogo’s the pouchbeaver that dams it all up & to heil hell. Pogo, much moreso than aristo. Aristo’s are pogo’s liquescent dream.
& the trumpanada is just as flakey as any of the rest of the political ‘upper crust.’ Bye, bye, miss American hand-pie.
I see Robert as a tireless articulate wordsmith with his opinions and blog. Always a concise intriguing read.
The premise behind the article’s title – picture and the pig faced powdered wig 1%er is delicious…we will soon find out if the subtitle: “They’re not as smart as they think.” is a hopefully true noose for as many corrupt and treasonous ruling class necks as possible.
Anyway you slice it or dice it we are rounding the turn and gaining momentum.
Some level of a Constitutional crisis, Civil War is inevitable.
Mr Trump wants swift justice but By The Law Of The Land and to frustrate Leftist labeling him a dictator. It’s TPTB who murder hundreds each year with bullets in the back of heads, falls from high places, drug overdoses; suspicious heart attacks, car and plane crashes, etc. They deserve firing squads and hangings. We all know they control the court system and any convictions of Elites are impossible. Trump is trying to re-establish the kind of Justice American should have; we need to be hopeful, helpful and patient.
Private sector employment comes from the private sector is certainly the illusion that the plunge protection team and the DoD are attempting to create, which they have failed to do since 190,000 corporations are receiving DoD contracts, including virtually every firm traded on Wall Street and many small corporations on the dole in this secret crony communist central bank / wall street/ government/ corruption inebreated, gluttonous fest! Where is the vomitorium?!
I previously and wrongly stated that I was shockingly surprised that Tillerson wasn’t another Dick Cheney. So much for that mistake. So it is not ok for Russia to interfere in U.S. politics, ( even though there is not a shred of evidence that they did) but it is A OK for the U.S. to interfere in Syrian, Turkish, Ukrainian,Crimean ,Iranian, Iraqi, Tunisian, Libyan, Egyptian, Yemeni, Sudanese, etc… politics. Ok thanks for the clarification Rex! How is that Kurdish thing working out in Iraq?! Oh, right lost support because of corruption. With the CIA involved there was corruption?! Knock me over with a feather! I guess that all of this means that Trump is a hypocrite, a flip-flopper, and just another politician that sold out to the MIC and Wall Street.
Please wake me up if the war, hypocrisy, flip flopping, fascism,and corruption end, so that I can come out of hibernation.
Peace,
Andrea Iravani
Fer fuck sake Andrea, quit with the links and just send it to Admin so we can kick the tyres.
Other people post links. If only my links are not allowed to be posted, that would be discriminatory. You are not obligated to click on the links. You are completely obsessed with silencing me, and have proven your guiltiness! You are a freak that you are so obsessed with trying to silence me, and without question, guilty as hell !
What other people post links over and over to their own sites? You seriously have some mental health issues. Get help.
Llpoh and RiNS- I would say that you have a serious obsession with me. Get some help. You are really creepy. Not exactly sure what it is that you are guilty of, I only know with absolute certainty that it is definitely something either having to do with what I have written about, or with me with this insane level of obsession with me. How ironic that you exposed yourselves in your attempts to silence me. You have attempted to silence me dozens of times. You are not even remotely sane or normal. You act like fascists. I have zero respect for fascists, and I will never accommodate them.
Many people are and have been reaching out to you.
Android – keep looking under the bed. The CIA are coming. They are listening to your every fart and snore. They are watching you. Keep vigilant, you whackjob.
Llpoh, I mean Lfpoc- Life, fascism, and the pursuit of control, get a life. You will never control me.
So Andrea I guess the blow job is out of the question..
Rob – the article linked above has 17 comments. All by her. She comments on her own articles, 17 times so far, and nary a comment by any other. She must have a readership of one, and that is her.
Android, get help. You have lost your mind.
LLPOH,
Not only that, but at times she REPLIED to herself. Sometimes with the same text as the comment.
Let that shit sink in. She made a comment. She replied to her very own comment.
To say Android (I really, really hope that sticks) is crazier than a shit-house rat is to demean shit-house rats.
But fuck you dude. She was the manager of a stationery store. For reals. She knows what’s what.
Rdawg – missed that. Too funny.
She writes an article.
She comments on the article ( the only one to do so)
Then she replies to her own comments.
You cannot make this shit up. She is entirely whacko.
RiNS-Genius!
She may have replied to her own comment, but she likely needs to ‘reply’ to her own ‘reply’ to gain entry for something new in the DSM. But, yes, obviously a crazy bitch.
I have previously read her comments and quickly discerned that it was best to skip them.
She reacts as if this is her first biker-bar experience. Welcome to TBP comment threads, Sweetie!
And if you read this, Andrea, take solace in the fact that you are not the first to experience the ‘tough crowd’ here. But you obviously need better ‘game’, girl.
llpoh
Yup. A readership of one. Sad really.
Reason I have liked this place so much is that it cured me of my delusion. I needed to be told good and hard to get over myself. All I can say is that it worked for me. People round here talk shit because they care. I realized years ago that being patted on the head and told that “it wasn’t your fault” wasn’t going to cure my malaise. The problem where I live is folks are too damn nice to be frank.
I’m not a psychologist, still if some dumb cunt from Yale can offer free advice about Trump.. It seems Andrea is suffering from some sort of mental defect..
That it is her will against the world. Well all I can say is that pushing that rock gets old after a while. And lonely too! Maybe she can snap out of it.
Not lookin’ good though…
Only on TBP
lol
I forgot to include Rdawg and Vodka in the online fascivists= fascist activists attempts to silence and control me.
Believe me sweetheart, I do not care one fucking bit about silencing you. It is great fun to watch you shoot yourself in the foot…repeatedly.
You are crazy as fuck, and I have decided that reading your delusional, psychotic musings is way better than the alternative.
So keep on blogging for humanity; I need the comic relief!
No one wants to silence you. They just want you to un-sperg a couple of notches.
Send your stuff to admin to post as stand alone articles so people can read them here instead of clicking through to your own hot-dogstand.
C’mon, lighten up and join the party.
Party? Well, I haven’t noticed any party anywhere, unless someone is a homicidal maniac or armed robber, engaging in war or central bank armed robbery of America, which I doubt that you are one of.
Sometimes people hear a whisper better than they hear a shout.
Why alienate a group of people that you are obviously interested in sharing info with? Defeats the whole purpose if they close their ears. Shouting into a void is only good for an echo.
It’s a figure of speech.
*sigh*
I think the “new” regulars, like TS and you-know-whosie et al, do not remember the earlier battles of the coattail bloggers. As a squadron commander once told me a few years after I was no longer a red rope but a black-patched evaluator reporting an exemplary and outstanding performance by one of his newest radar technicians, a young man who I heard was later courts-martialed for one or another reasons, least of which was a python found in his dorm room beside some drugs. Anyway, Col. WhatsHisName, oh yeah…SIR, said, “The cream always does rise to the top, Margaret*, but sometimes shit floats too.”
EC is astute to have recognized my ability to assume the rare clever comment indicates intellect, just as my own silly antics hide the rare glimpse of intellect. I thought that young man was headed for great things in his military career. It ended the last day he was in Leavenworth before being dishonorably discharged, I suppose. I ain’t the best judge of character short term.
*This particular commander always called me Margaret, one of the reasons I became “Maggie” to a rare few who got it. Edited to clarify: That commander and I worked in a number of different organizations over the years and he and I had a good comradery, I think is a proper term. Enough so that when I was pregnant and assigned to “ground duty”, not airborne, he called me his personal assistant and I pretty much had the run of the place. Since my pregnancy coincided with my impending medical evaluation for retraining (how cool was that, EC, getting disqualified from flying status for a back injury, then coming up pregnant before anything was official. Nine months plus maternity leave without an official job title any longer. Red rope at tech school to honor grad to exceptionally qualified to blackpatch evaluator to commander’s gal Friday to Nick’s wife and Joey’s mom and, now, to bunny farmer with big white dogs who need goats to watch this year. As for Andies Candies? You do gotta admire how naïve she is regarding kindling the fire, especially with certain large canines certain to form a pack and make her attempt to write here an experience she may need to see a therapist about.
@ Mags – Whoa, Thank you.
I consider that high praise, with a hint of heads up.
https://youtu.be/IR_Ii0hXLEk
That’s kind of how I meant it, I suppose. I want to clarify something: a long time ago, I mentioned that a student had once invited me to his dorm room to see his snake and I thought he was being a lewd flirt (he was California suntan, Pepsodent smile, and bright green eyes; I thought he might be a Sprite) and I chastised him for it. Then, when I found out there really was a big snake in his dorm room, well…
Boy, was MY Face Red for have giving him an outstanding rating on his student evaluation? Do you remember that column in the GRIT or the Good Housekeeping? Boy Was My Face Red? Was it the Reader’s Digest? Anyone?
Sometimes we need to engage our sense of humor.
Post a response/comment on this blog? Develop
a thick skin, and also key…who gives a shit?\Do your own
thing.
BTW, this dialog is about Robert Gore’s article. We
love it.
Exactly. We don’t give a fuck about her site. Only we can fuck up this site.
@andrea
Nah…Just trying to help but you don’t want it. Not sure why. I might be a freak but am trying to be a nice guy. Not sure why.
Anyways Lloph is right again. You need help. The problem you have with posting a stand alone is you would then have to stand by and defend it.
You don’t want to debate.
You want to preach.
Well newsflash ya dumb cunt! Here it don’t cost nothing and you can do it 24/7.
Just don’t expect the rest of us to bow down before you and tell you how smart you are. Anyways sad part is you might have something to add if you just loosen up a bit. Like I have said before best part of being here is gettin’ taken to the woodshed every once in a while. Hate to break it to you but you ain’t all that.
Get over yourself.
Rob,
You and LLPOH are doing yeoman’s work, but it is a colossal waste of time. That chick is fucking crazy. I mean really. There’s a thread where LLPOH tries to convince Android (hat tip LLPOH) that she has mis-read the government pension figures. By a factor of 1,000. She refuses to acknowledge it. He tells her where she has made the mistake. She steadfastly ignores him. It is really something to behold. I actually kind of feel bad for her. She is clearly not well.
We should all just ignore her ramblings. Maybe she’ll go away. Besides, nkit told me I should be more Zen about her postings, and I agree.
RiNS- It seems that you are the one that needs to get over yourself. I don’t expect anyone to bow down to me. You are projecting your abnormal wishes of what you expect from others onto me. You are an obsessed fascist control freak that needs help.
So now I am a fascsit cuz
I’m pining fer free blow jobs.
Ya got me and ya got me good.
Fuckmedead and call me bad!
Okay, Okay I’ll pay….
How’s 20 bucks sound..
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Well geeze! How un-fascist of you. Why didn’t you say that up front. Meet me behind the wood shed in two hours. This will be great. I am used to blowing myself and now I am going to get paid to do it.
This is the GREATEST day of my life…
That was a bit meanish, Rinish.
Edit: whoever doppled Andes Candies above was meanerish.
AI should probably take her leave unless she truly has the guts and hutzpah of a clamster, along with the nerve to take some real STM flingfesting.
She could surprise me, but I won’t hold my breath. Until the smell gets really bad.
@RiNS- You are a fascist for trying to control me. Maybe people would line up to give you free blowjobs if you weren’t a fascist and you wouldn’t be soliciting them on line from a stranger. I guess that there is only one way to find out if i am correct, but in the meantime, Yogis can give themselves blowjobs. Use the $20 to take a yoga class. It will save you a lot of money in the long run. Every dog can do it.
Geeze Andrea! What do you have against blowjobs!
Oh well nobody can say I didn’t try.
Gotta say you really told me!
Feelin’ the burn! Damn shame I woulda bought ya lunch..
Chutzpah, you Maggoo
It is correct either way, Me Hoe.
@ RiNS- You Are the one that needs to get over yourself.
My will against the world? Specifically what are you referring to that you state that I alone wish to impose and the entire world and all 7 billion plus, has united against me on? Please tell me. As far as I can tell, it is my will to exercise the first amendment rights , against the will of about 10 anonymous TBP fascivists attempts to prevent me from exercising my first amendment rights, which is more proof of how you hold yourselves in outrageously and unwarranted elevated esteem!
Andrea I never said you couldnt speak. Go back and read what I orginally wrote. For fuck sakes, nobody is trying to withhold your 1A rights. All we would like you to do is have a fucken conversation rather than lecturing us on how you are going to save the Goddamn world. What in the fuck is wrong with you! Calling me a fascist is ridiculous and just means you already lost. Besides the fact that I have been called worse… but that is another story..
You need to get to animal shelter. Get some more cats if you don’t already have some cuz yer crazy as bag of hammers.
There were no insults in that first post by me. Just gentle plead, at least by TBP standards, to abide by the norms on this forum. You don’t want to do that. Clearly.
You’d rather blather. Well be my guest.
Heil Hitler,
RiNS
Ok. Thanks RiNS. Considering that a bag of hammers is under zero delusions, and that it can do a hell of a lot of damage to this FUBAR establishment and economy ( E = MC2) , I will take that as a compliment.
I don’t want any more pets. I have one dog.
If you are seeking followers, you haven’t presented anything worth following, IMO.
I just read this article in Zero Hedge which is similar to many that have appeared over at least the last few years when I started reading Zero Hedge, and from what I have previously read, that is kind of their nitche audience, and in many respects, I tend to agree with the analyses, however this recent article states that when the mother of all bubbles will pop, it will break the world.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-17/jim-rickards-warns-bursting-bubble-could-break-world
Banks, particularly privately owned central banks, capitalize on these crises. The truth is though, that after the bubbles pop, the world will still have the same amount of natural resources, factories, trained people, houses, apartments, shopping centers, food, and water as it did prior to the bubbles popping. If all of those factors that I just mentioned were to suddenly vanish from the face of the earth, that would be true that the bubble pop would break the world.
The economy is and always has been a struggle between individuals and various sectors in the economy, all seeking a bigger slice of the pie. It’s kind of like an ongoing symphony, or, a series of train wrecks if you prefer, or even if you don’t.
Ford Motors is blaming higher steel prices for not meeting economic forecasts, for some reason GM outperformed and is required to use much of the same materials as Ford and wasn’t affected for reasons which I have not looked into.
Suppliers, lenders, employers, employees, shareholders, and customers are all battling each other all of the time. The central banks only compound these matters.
Economics is by definition ,” The efficient allocation of the scarce means of production and resorces toward the satisfaction of human wants. ” The economists and central bankers have done an award winning bang-up job of satisfying the human wants of 1% and the worst conceivable job possible of satisfying the human wants of 99%. They are obviously in business for themselves- the 1 percent.
So. There you have it. The illusion that the world has gone to hell in a hand-basket will be as equally outrageous as the claims that the economy has been doing well.
( The world has gone to hell in a hand basket because of wars and oppression, not because of the fedgeneered bubbles popping.)
Peace,
Andrea Iravani
Well thats better. You just wrote what is a literary big flaming pile of shit but at least, Praise Be To Lord Odin, it doesn’t have any links.
All I can say is I am holding out for the blow job cuz yer as dumb as a fence post. As for followers I get up every day hoping I have none. I’d rather get lost on my own.
Heil Hitler,
RiNS
Whatever the fuck this is, it’s out of control and ripe for potential abuse! This is what the FBI ought to be investigating. Not Russia! This tangled ball of yarn makes the mafia look legit. It has been my observation that only individuals with a great deal to hide resort to such structures. Full blown opacity and confusion. Utter chaos.
http://www.marketswiki.com/wiki/NYSE_Euronext
Andrea, I am not certain why, but I do have some empathy for you, and your plight on TBP…You need to change your tack. You can’t fight the winds of disdain that you are blatantly daring. You will eventually meet Davy Jone’s locker.
As far as I can see, Hardscrapple Framer gave you the best advice you could get just a few posts above. Submit a post to Admin as a stand alone post and take it from there.. It’s possible that you won’t be verbally pelted with eggs (tomatoes, maybe) and perhaps, and hopefully, you may become a valued contributor here. That would be a positive. You are, after all, seemingly running out of choices given your current course. Grab the life ring and hang on. I can’t speak for others, but some off us wish to see you survive here. It’s your choice. Make the right one.
Nkit- The problem is that my comments in the past have been frequently plagiarized on other sites. Zero Hedge in particular. It happens frequently. Jill Stein plagiarized me. I sent a text and email to friends and other contacts that hillary clinton was the queen of corruption, and posted it in zero hedge, two days later, Jill Stein is calling hillary clinton the queen of corruption. I also posted on zero hedge and on my zh bio that this is not a capitalist economy. If this is capitalism, where is all the capital with a $20 trillion deficit and $500 billion trade deficit, and then Charles Hugh-Smith interviewed Gordon Long, and Gordon Long plagiarized me. It has happened dozens of times. I am sick of the frauds snd phonies plagiarizing me. Many of the Tylers have done it. I suspect that Tyler sold my history of posts to Caitlin Johnstone, who has commited somewhat of an online copycat image of me. The funny thing is that she didn’t start writing until my ZH account was hacked or deleted, and she lives in Australia and only writes about American politics, well, she wrote one article about Australia, but it was about the Australian gov being in Washington’s basement.
Andrea,
Quite often, current circumstances will cause the same idea to arise almost simultaneously in the minds of numerous intelligent people. Out of 350 million people in this country, surely at least 10 thousand intelligent, thinking people exist here. For instance, I was also aware that Hillary is the queen of corruption.
Probably some tens of thousands of people also saw that Reptillary has taken the exercise of corruption to a whole new level. She keeps stepping up her game, in ways that astound me when I am made aware.
Similarly, that pure capitalism does not exist here, and has not existed here for at least 150 years, is obvious to thousands of people. Not all of them voice their opinions on widely read sites.
Cheers,
Nathan
Oh. I forgot to mention that Caitlin Johnstone was an astrologer prior to her sudden interest in Australian activism limted to American politics.
Iravani, AKA refried confusion, is making itself clear:
My perspective is that none of us know how this is going to unfold. Everyone feels it. Everyone has access to more info than we can possibly dig though that reinforces that feel.
It’s in the air.
Change.
History does indeed teach us, if we will listen. Here’s the catch:
It shows that the underlying motivation is always greed, lust for raw power, lack of consideration or compassion, and other such traits. Even those who might have purer motives are soon taken. As soon as that high-grade pure power hits the vein, its all over. Pretty soon you’re talking to the ‘drug’ not the person.
What is NOT obvious is how this is going to happen. This ain’t 1776, or the French revolution, or the Russian Revolution, or the fall of the Roman Empire, or any of the plethora of similar events throughout human history. The motives might be clear; they never change. But no one can tell where, when or how it will blow open. At every turn, before every event, someone warned; they could see it coming. But NOT A ONE knew what exact situation would set it off. What little incident would light the fuse. Or how it would wind its course. Or how it would resolve.
So, we speculate about it. Each has a good argument. We’re all looking into the dark ahead.
Global meltdown with a new dark ages of survival sustenance for who knows how long.
Widespread carnage that leaves a remnant that rebuilds a new world from the ground up.
An uprising that succeeds, after a horrible struggle, to right the wrongs and reinstate what we were.
Fulfilled prophecy about Christ’s return, and all that claims.
A future of unknown length, of slavery and the boot in the face.
A monotone Brave New World.
Maybe aliens will come save us.
None of us can do more than whistle past the graveyard, and do our best to prepare for what is, at the last, ultimately unpreparable.
Just don’t walk in fear, otherwise ‘they’ have already won.
Only one thing is certain.
The times they are a’ changin’.
Does anyone here read history? Because the last time I looked, there have been rich kings, queens, emperors, dukes, earls. dukes of earl, etc. since civilization began in earnest. Even Indian tribes had theirs, because SOMEBODY has to rule.
WTF does it take for people to realize that even if you killed them all, your very friends and relatives would gladly take their money or land or both, and make their families aristocraps too!!
“the money you receive comes from someone who had no choice whether or not you got paid.”
Wrong. You voted for the people who passed the tax laws that required you to provide the money to pay for those people.
C’mon Dave.
Get real.
No one gets to opt in or opt out of this system, voting does not imply consent any more than handing your wallet to a mugger qualifies as a charitable donation.
AMEN Hardscrabble!
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Hardscrabble:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. – THAT TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, GOVERNMENTS ARE INSTITUTED BY MEN, DERIVING THEIR JUST POWERS FROM THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED.” (Emphasis mine)
The Declaration of Independence.
Hey Dave,
You and Andrea could go on a date. Hit it off. Maybe
you will will the proud holder of said BJ?
“If you have been voting for politicians who promise to give you goodies at someone else’s expense, then you have no right to complain when they take your money and give it to someone else, including themselves.”
Thomas Sowell
Dave
Logical fallacy
If that was case if one didn’t vote then they would not be obligated to pay taxes..
RiNS:
You apparently haven’t heard the term “majority”.
You missed Scrabble’s point in its entirety. What happens when you don’t vote at all.
You’re in a hole and what do you do. For you it is just to keep digging. I suppose if you have a shovel ya might as well use it. This is yet another logical fallacy. The Tyranny of the majority doesn’t somehow how turn wrong to right. Still if you want to be led around with a ring thru yer nose well all I can tell you is have at it..
That last bit if you hadn’t figured it out is one as well…
Less than half of eligible voters vote. Yet the fucking government still exists and we still have a representative republic. A simple majority of those WHO DO vote become the majority for the country and its government. That’s not tyranny, that’s simple fucking fact.
Your wrong again fucknuts! It ain’t even a simple majority. It is first past the post.
Blow me and Heil Hitler,
RiNS
And fuck you too, dickwad.
#winning
To work in government is to have larceny in your heart.
Something I tell the govdrones I encounter. They change the subject.
You give a psychological boost the .001% when you call them ‘elite’, which implies some type of superiority, however small or undeserved.
The real conceptual framework to view the .001% is as a disease, a pathology, a parasitic entity.
Please, in your future writing popularize to term ‘Pathocrat’ as in someone who controls a Pathocracy.
Many labels for types of social organization litter the rhetorical historic landscape, most isms of some sort, that purposely avoid the connotation of sociopathology.
The Pathocrats ‘in charge’ are an actual sub species of homo sapien sapien, the ‘wise, wise ape”.
Homo Pathologicus
Call a spade a spade Mr Gore
Marcus,
That was a sharp point you made I haven’t realized on labeling them “elite”. In Roberts defense it is a common mistake we all make, me included, giving them the implication of the compliment of the word.
He did after all put up an unflattering picture that was fun and biting and “The Aristocratic Illusion” is another deserving slur.
I enjoyed the point you made and will never call them the “elite” again. Words have power and we need to strip of all power, verbal or otherwise.
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Having just spent some weeks in lands where modern civilization sprang forth, make no mistake it has always been the “elites” that have driven progress, and it will always be thus. Power inevitably will accumulate into the hands of a small percentage of the population, and those hands will belong to very bright people for the most part.
Advancement relies on individual genius. Brunelleschi’s great Dome in Florence is just one example. He had an IQ of 180, estimated. All the 100 IQ people in the world at that time combined could never have devised that dome. Look at the Founders. Those were titans. Franklin had an IQ estimated at 175. Jefferson 160. John Adams 173. Hamilton 155. Madison 155.
Like it or not, there are always going to be elite.
Marcus,
You know, you’re right. I was using the terms aristocracy and aristocrats a lot in this piece and I was simply looking for a synonym to vary things up. However, “elite” is not a synonym and it only feeds into the aristocrats’ self-flattery.
It also points out their hubris. So there’s that.
Robert Gore- Let’s call them depelite, or deplete, since that is what they do. I think that calling them the status quo is effective, becuase it turns the ” resistence” movement on its head.
From campaigning for change to campaigning for the status quo and resisting change.
If there is another protest Trump supporters should bring signs that say change, and the purple devolution will have resistance signs.
Robert the peace maker.
When I make a mistake I acknowledge it. I’ll whap people upside the head if I think they’re wrong. You’ve got to be the first person who’s ever called me a “peace maker.”
Maybe she meant ‘pacemaker’
You get things started or keep them going…
I think pacemaker is probably a better fit.
“In political and sociological theory, the elite are a small group of powerful people that control a disproportionate amount of wealth, privilege, political power or skill in a society.”
There is no mention of how that disproportionate wealth, power and privilege is accrued or maintained. Elite, as a term, does not indicate a moral position.
Marcus,
Your point is well taken, but I have read a better description. You are accurate in calling them pathocrats, but one gets closer to the nub of things by they are the rulers and owners: those who have clawed their way to the top by any means fair or foul, or they are the descendants of those who clawed their way there. The word elite mean the best, those who have demonstrated they are the best, like Olympic athletes.
I don’t remember where I read the most perceptive analysis, but here it is for you. There are three classes in any society: the owners, those who are owned, and the praetorian class that enforce the rule of the owners onto those who are owned. It is possible to move from the class of the owned to the class of owners, but is very difficult.
The praetorian also act a special, upper level, of servants. Many among the praetorian yearn to move from the class of better dressed and better fed servant up to being one of the owners. People like Truman, Eisenhower, the Kennedys the Bush family, the Clintons, and Obingo Obongo are all servants. They are better dressed and housed, but they are servants, not owners.
Some of the above mentioned may be more intelligent and perhaps very capable, but they are still servants, and it grates on them. They want their patents of nobility. Only the very, very intelligent among them realize that true inclusion among the genuine owners and rulers is not conveyed by a piece of paper.
Why do you think Douglas MacArthur was slapped down? Lost in his own sense of superiority, poor fellow forgot that he was just a servant. Why do you think JFK was whacked, and in such a public way? Poor fellow did not know that change must be done very subtle way.
The praetorian get special privileges as payment for enforcing the rules. At an early age, I saw that cops are not in place to enforce justice, but to keep the poor man off the rich man’s lawn.
@ Nathan Bedford Yes. People suddenly come up with the same idea after illegally spying on and plagiarizing people! Gee, what a coincidence! There is also a Zero Hedge logo sort of watermark image on my phone at all times since my ZH account was disabled. I even took a screenshot and sent to Tyler. It seems that he is tracking my phone illegally. I frequently clear my device, even when I disabled my cookies it remained, it remains even in private mode. If it is not Tyler, someone is trying to convince me that it is.
Oh God, this is great! Please, please, please keep giving us details about how .gov, Zero Hedge, and Jill Stein are tracking, surveilling, and plagiarizing you!
You can’t make this shit up, I love it.
I went and read some too. Hoping she is just young and passionate in immature approach and not bumfuck crazy.
R – you forget the CIA. They are listening in, too.
And all those many folks that are plagiarising her stuff.
Pretty sure she did not leave ZH, but was tossed. Now, that would be hard to believe.
Yes of course.
The government is no doubt expending all manner of effort to watch a delusional, psychotic, former stationery store manager and blogger for humanity.
They wish to steal her brilliant articles wherein she misrepresents property tax revenue by a factor of 1000. Or conflates pension liabilities with payments.
I mean, it’s clear that failed artist Andrea Iravani is a clear and present danger to the powerful elite. She is adroit at exposing their malfeasance in great detail.
Or, she is a mentally ill shut-in that desperately needs professional care. I am not sure which.
Yikes…can a psych person diagnose another person based on
the content of their remarks?
True paranoia reflects delusions of grandeur.
Elite
1. The choice or best of anything considered collectively, as of a group or class of persons.
2. Persons of the highest class: Only the elite were there.
3. A group of persons exercising the major share of authority or influence within a larger group: the power elite of a major political party.
4. Representing the most choice or select; best: an elite group of authors.
OK, 1. They are not the choice or best. 2. They are not the highest class just the ruling class, for now. 3. I’ll give them the major authority for now…but that’s our collective fault and times really are a changing. 4. They are not the most choice or select or best just the wealthiest and most powerful…for now.
Yea, we have always had the elite…but we also always had:
(Eradicated diseases)
• Smallpox.
• Rinderpest.
• Poliomyelitis (polio)
• Dracunculiasis.
• Yaws.
• Malaria.
• Hookworm.
• Lymphatic filariasis.
But eventually we got rid of them! We can do the same with the powdered wig parasites Homo Pathologicus!
OK……….how?
BL- By exposing them for the frauds that they are.
Hmmm…on my dream white board I see…a massive grass roots Deplorable, Conservative , Libertarian, Bible/Gun clinger pissed off fed up Revolution 2!
– Audit and End the Fed, (take away their $ control)
– Term Limits (take away their power)
– 10th Amendment – Cut off most of the Octopus Federal tentacles
– End the IRS
– “If” the Q wave is real and happens back it
– Revive and broaden the dormant TEA Party call it the POP Party (Pissed Off Party)
– Pass the word on the 4th turning and prepare for it…PREP – ARM – STACK – PREP
– Win Civil War 2.
– Hang’em by their powdered wigs
Not looking for a secular savior just know what I want to see happen but more importantly what I can control and do individually.
Cowabunga!
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And here I thought it would be a slow day at the office.
You’re at the office after 11pm? Tough gig!
I’m in my ‘office’ 24/7.
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
Have you been watching those Stanley Kubrick conspiracy videos in the Red Room again?
What is really spooky is that there are several people here who get that.
Ah, yes; 237 makes 11.
Everybody gets it, Maggoo. I mean, it was a pivotal scene where Wendy realizes Jack is kookoo for cocoa puffs. I get the same idea reading some of your recollections sometimes. I begin to wonder if you were asleep when you wrote it.
What I was referring to was that the scene in the movie, which is Kubrick’s own creation, is supposedly fashioned after Kubrick’s wife’s own reaction to discovering the truth ab0ut 2001, A Space Odyssey.
And, I am probably asleep at some point during most of my comments.
Mr. Truman drops atomic bombs on women and children and it my father who is posthumously adjudged a war criminal.
At Yalta with a sweep of a pen, a senile president condemns a third of the world to communism.
Europe with the zeal of a missionary gone mad, hands over the wealth and resources of Africa to savages who have barely learned to beat a drum.
Then you give them tanks and arms to replace their bows and arrows.
And when your freezers arrive, they use them to store their enemies until their Sunday dinner.
I have the grace not to mention Vietnam.
All over your brave new democratic world, inflation spirals as literacy drops.
And in America? They vote for law and order whilst shooting down Presidents, schoolchildren, and rock stars in the streets.
Johann von Tiebolt
The Holcroft Covenant (1985)
If you draw your sustenance from the government—as an employee, contractor, or beneficiary of redistributed funds—the money you receive comes from someone who had no choice whether or not you got paid.
As a teacher and economist, I agree.
I dislike that my salary is confiscated from taxpayers.
But, I try to differentiate myself by being an irreplaceable teacher and so good at it that, were public schools to be eliminated, I’d be near the top in private ed. Having taught in private schools, I demanded to be the paid on the quality of my work, not years of service. I take my private sector attitude into the public arena because I don’t want to be like most public school teachers. The best compliment I get every place I’ve been is, “You don’t seem like a teacher”. The 2nd best compliment I’ve gotten is, “You don’t treat me as some case study in a book. U treat me like an human being”.
I’m determined to not be the stereotypical lame ass teacher that’s probably there to collect a comfy check. I do my job as if I’m in the private sector, unlike most government workers/parasites.
I tell the students, during economics class, that public schools should be abolished and every taxpaying parent given a check to spend on the school of their choice. Competition and breaking the monopoly of the public system is the only way to save our education system. Many of the teachers have shunned me when they get wind of my opinions.
Oops.
“…every taxpaying parent given a check…”
You had me going there that you were actually an economist.
On a side note, most elites intermarry a lot. Not enough genetic variety breeds sociopaths and psychos.
That is a new one on me. I had read that psycho or sociopathy is actually caused by a combination of brain abnormality and parental abuse. Their brains actually are formed differently, however, someone can have the brain malformation and not have sociopathy if they weren’t abused by parents. I actually read an article years ago written by a man studying inmates brains, and he concluded that, then, studied his own brain and found the abnormality, but was not abused
so he wasn’t a sociopath. So it is a nature nurture combo.
And Obama is clearly a sociopath, who had a white Irish mom and black dad.
He wasn’t abused, but abandoned by both parents, so that is a form of child abuse.
O also had a prostitute trans nanny who trained the boy,
so genetics, abandoning parents and the nanny=trouble.
If crazy eyed Ann Barnhardt had a retarded daughter, she would write a lot like Andrea.
Carl- yeah. Right. I guess that must be why I am frequently plagiarized. All of you trolls have had your chickens come home to roost. After a lifetime of abuse and being demeaned and treated as worthless, insignificant, and less than up to par- I have rejected the abusive trolls both online and IRL that have treated me that way and have realized my own value. You’re all screwed and all of you lost it all, big time! I would rather be alone than with such people. My Mom had 21 tables in her condo, which I turned, after she passed away, and turned them into 21 guns. I will no longer attempt to please anyone who is attempting to demean me. They are not worth my time. I will not try to change them. They are assholes and will probably die that way. I will take the truth to anyone willing to listen to it. I present the facts with references. People are free to decide for themselves who the frauds and liars are. Some have a long history of lying, fraud, opression, and abuse. Others do not.
I could tell you’ve been hurt before.
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Very cute. The banner worked though. She was a phenominal woman! A true heroine!
I am curious if turning tables into guns is easier than turning lead into bullets.
Why don’t you simply read and make the occasional comment? Perhaps incorporate a paragraph or two of one of your blog pieces into your comment, providing a link. Some of the stuff you write isn’t drivel so someone might bite.
I am no longer on the welcoming committee. I was fired for we all know whosie cuesie.
I too, am curious as to how I might transform tables into guns; it sounds lucrative.
For example, let’s say I purchase 10 tables at my local thrift store for $15 each.
Then, I “turn” them into 10 guns. Let’s say they’re average guns; maybe worth $300 each. Well, now I have $3000 worth of product for a $150 investment. A $2850 profit, or 19 times the purchase price.
Andrea, I think you should consider giving up blogging for humanity in favor of selling the secret to turning tables into guns. If you sold your program for $100, you would make a fortune. Then you could donate the proceeds to social justice, or something.
Just a thought.
Thank you Maggie. It is more time consuming for sure! After 50 years of being a doormat for the world, people are kind of in crisis and haven’t adjusted to the no more door mat Andrea. My grandfather used to make bullets, because he was a competion shooter and really frugal, as everyone from the depression era was. I used to watch him make them in the garage on the weekends.
“I present the facts with references. ”
Well, except for the part where you screw up the numbers by a factor of 1000.
Otherwise, yeah. Facts.
Do not forget her assertion that 2/3 of GDP goes toward govt pensins each year.
Nobody has proven me wrong with the sites that I listed yet. Nobody. Just a lot of assumptions. Keep trusting Paul Ryan. Let me know how that works out for ya!
You were shown your errors repeatedly and irrefutably.
You just chose to ignore it. Because you are insane.
Do sofa end tables yield…. what, handguns?
And a dining table yields a hunting rifle?
What do you get from a big conference table (envision the one in Dr. Strangelove)
yields a Tank or at least an RPG?
It’s just a metaphore. The thing is, that I am a different person now than I was. The world that I occupy hasn’t adjusted quite yet. They are still fighting the change. I’m not going back to acquiescing them though. They are very powerful people with the emotional maturity of toddlers, kind of like Trump, combined with Hillary’s refusal to accept reality and her lack of integrity, but invisible in many respects, so, you know how that goes. I am still adjusting to the change myself quite frankly.
metaphor
“If crazy eyed Ann Barnhardt had a retarded daughter, she would write a lot like Andrea.”
Good god, I almost spit coffee all over the keyboard at that one…. Hilarious, as I can actually picture that image in my mind now when I see her posts…..You sir, have made my morning.
Relax All is well , a few of us average Americans will navigate our way thru the industrial shredder of life and do OK ! Just enough so the elites can use us as examples and point fingers at the majority left behind and say see you just fucked up but don’t worry , pointless ritual and mindless superstition will assure you something better when you die . In the mean time brace yourself and grab your ankles .
I am confident the elites of America have over played their hand and people are sizing up to there combined command and control bluff .
To the badge wearing minions with that false sense of heroism , remember Nuremberg . Calling it your job , your duty or following orders will not protect your ass forever !
They certainly have overplayed their hand. I am calling their bluff. There are simply to many casualties caused by them to be denied. The evidence is everywhere. They have left no stone unturned. Everyone knows.
Thanks A I , sometimes when I connect the dots between low pay and societal ills on this site I am either preaching to the choir or declared jealous or envious . In reality , I am just fine but I have family and see a rather poor future for most of them , I cannot save all of them !
@ Boat Guy- Hey,I get that! I haven’t met a wealthy person that wished poverty on others. That is where the Dems mess up, in an absurd class warfare campaign. While I oppose outright oppression of slave wages advocated for by Ron Paul, who I happen to agree with on at least 80% of the issues, I don’t believe that if the government would increase someone else’s taxes, that their money would somehow mysteriously wind up in my bank account. It’s more of a misery loves company mentality than anything else. Ending the Fed is key, which Ron Paul advocates for also.
A I. Ditto ! You sound like you to have seen the truth behind the trickle down and low wage shenanigans .
1979 wages with 1969 prices would full fill the trickle promises but we know that’s literally a pipe dream because you must be stoned to believe any of it !
Boat Guy –
They certainly have overplayed their hand. I am calling their bluff. There are simply to many casualties caused by them to be denied. The evidence is everywhere. They have left no stone unturned. Everyone knows.
Can Countries Make Themselves Great Again?
“Each generation must choose whether to unite around an ideal that transcends class, race, and regional divides, or to give in to the more natural state of tribal solidarities and prejudices. There is always a choice whether to abide by the Constitution or to warp it. We are always pondering whether to liberate the American economy or to nationalize it, and whether to honor or be ashamed of our icons of the past. Can an often second-guessing, apologetic, and overly litigious America still feel confident that it can be good enough without having to be perfect?
Every nation’s next generation must decide whether to leave behind a country better than the one it inherited. And sometimes, the resulting choices can reenergize or finally put to rest their collective inheritance.”
I have been ready willing and able to unite with those who will stand and if necessary fight to abide by the Constitution. I’m not going quietly into the globalist night/darkness…they can kiss my American ass.
Mark- I assume you mean the US Constitution. If that is so, which one do you support?
Grog,
Yea, the Constitution as it stands today. I can’t change the reality we have of the great, good, bad and ugly of the 27 amendments out of the 33 proposed since March 4, 1789.
However, I do want see:
– 5 lawyers in black dresses to stop making law instead of just interpreting it creating sweeping massive social and political changes through osmosis power never given to them by the Founding Fathers and perverting the “original” Constitution.
– As well as the Executive Branch (both parties) over stepping their power…turning the Presidency into a bloated strong man office with their royal Executive orders.
– The totally corrupt and in the tank bribed Congress sitting like the three monkeys with their hands over their mouths, ears and eyes not living up to their “Constitutional” responsibilities. (Term Limits for them & End the FED with limited termed Congress taking back that responsibility)
– I believe the 10th Amendment that was added to the Constitution of 1787 largely because of the intellectual influence and personal persistence of the Anti-Federalists and their allies was written to emphasize the limited nature of the powers delegated to the federal government, was the great Fail Safe we have ignored to our peril. THEY WERE RIGHT!
If the states truly exercised all power that is not given to the federal government even more Americans would self-sort to low tax, less regulation, 2nd amendment, anti-immigration states and their power would increase in the House.
Robert; ‘the best and the brightest’ doesn’t necessarily mean the wisest.
Military geniuses are always fighting the last war, and always shocked when their opponent pulls some new way to kick their ass. Blood runs until someone finally figures out how to counter it.
CEOs follow the same old demographics that made the company successful, and then get bogged down and surpassed by new markets that somehow escaped their notice.
Politicians – well, the same basic mindset, but a whole different dynamic. Their job, unfortunately, is to maintain the status quo as much as possible. I consider them lackeys, keeping the peace for the top-tier puppet masters. All the influence and looting opportunities are their reward for being good little toadies. These ‘best and the brightest’ are the most capable manipulators, IMO, but still not very wise. Just really good at what they do.
This present ‘elite/s’ faction has been years in the making, but the general populace has always been susceptible to “aristocrats’. Look at how ga-ga almost everyone goes over royalty visiting the US over the years. All the celeb worship is the same thing. It has become mind-boggling.
Doesn’t bode well for us
200!!!! I win.
Your grand prize is in the mail!
I’ll be watching for it. (By the way… not quite to 200 yet, but expecting to get there by and by.)
This was the “money shot” at the big Octogenarian birthday party at the “community building” at the rodeo grounds at the edge of town.
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I mentioned my father was a self-taught photographer in one of my ramblings. Since this is the Aristocratic Illusion, it is the perfect place to reflect on the strange aristocracy that arises in a tiny little town in the middle of nowhere.
This is my nephew beside the TeePee built by my father in the back yard for grandchildren to play in. Close to the Post Office behind it, near the barnyard and pasture beyond. It was once my playground, too, but that was a lifetime ago.
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As you can see, we raised extra large turkeys.
So, on the way to 200 comments, you will get to see some pictures of the Himmel Aristocracy.
And, his daughter, Princess Podunck aka Maggita.
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Bubble bubble, toil and trouble
FISA memo to be released
Obama goin’ down
The truth will be released
And the left will be devastated..
Worst scandal EVER..
HOPING HOPING HOPING. Is all we can do.
https://youtu.be/SSR6ZzjDZ94
200
Goodnight. Hope 200 is an aristocrat and not a cur
Well played, TS. And, perhaps, the best announcement of the win I’ve seen in a while.
Elvis Thank You a very nice find.
EC? I’ve noticed something TBP pal-o-mine.
Not to worry Maggita,
“RiNS the deplorable says:
January 19, 2018 at 10:56 am
#winning”
You ain’t winning shit, dumbfuck.
You and your ilk refuse to accept simple reality. The US Constitution promises you a representative republic for a federal government. The majority of those who bother to vote (that could be ONE), get to pick who will represent them in congress. If you don’t vote, you need to shut the fuck up aboit what is going on. If you do vote, you need to accept the will of the majority of those who voted. If you don’t like the outcome because you don’t like what your ancestors gave you for a federal government, you need to round up more people who will vote for representatives who think like you. Failing that, you can run for office yourself, you can ask congress to pass an amendment changing the form of government, or you need to find 34 states that will convene to change the form of government, and then get 38 states to ratify any change. Now, if all that is too much for you, you can always just pack your bags and move to a country that is more satisfactory to your needs and stop whining about the country you have, like the retards that down voted a quote from the Declaration of Independence.
Dave, I believe RiNse is a wetback, a tortilla chewer. The US Constitution promises him nothing and he can’t legally vote in US elections. Your a maroon.
Jesus Christ, are you serious? The Constitution promises a lot of shit; all of which is routinely ignored.
Yeah, voting’ll fix all that.
You fucking moran. Oh BTW, welcome to TBP.
Shit rdawg so you are now on the welcome wagon.
Geeze! Ya gotta admit that I really triggered Dave with that one.
Ya just can’t make this shit up. Move to another country.
Fer fuck sakes Dave why didn’t I think of that before.
My fuck man you are a super genuis.
I bow down in awe!
Afuckenmazing!
A while back I read the Scott Adams book Win Bigly. Anyways I was having a bit of tit fer tat with my good buddy Dave and wasting my time trying to drill thru the rock hard concrete to what apparently passes as his Brain. I figured what is the point in wasting my time when it is obvious that he doesn’t understand the point I was trying to make. Anyhoo I thought…. hey this would be great time to pull a Trump stunt. Write something that didn’t make any sense hoping to enrage…And so I did.
#winning AGAIN
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Reading his most enlightening response I see it worked like a fucken’ charm.
Meanwhile Dave
Go suck on a bucket of dicks. You are a newbie around here obviously, otherwise you would already know that I ain’t a Yank. Not that it matters..
You fucking moran. Oh BTW, welcome to TBP.
My work is done amigos, time for a drink…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5NnZcdtMnw
And yer Bald Eagle is a pussy.
Yeehaw! You earned a “dumbfuck” straight away! “Dave” (one wonders how long he struggled to come up with a username, only to end up with: “Dave”) really showed ya.
300!!!
I am watching you.
249!!! Who’s gonna cross that 250 point of no return?
#winning
Hm.
Dared I comment? Kinda gunshy after Dave’s ass chewin’. Oh, Well, I always like
Aw come on TS! I’m really not that bad a fella! Can’t be a Wetback Nazi Shitlord all the time. Besides its
Time for a beer and several benzodiazepines! Here’s hoping Dave comes back to visit soon. In the meantime we can all take solace that Andrea takes time out of her busy days saving the world to explain the error of our ways.
Hola
RiNS
p.s. Dave should really come up with a better moniker. Bit lame if ya ask me. Good one for a plumber but if he really wants to be a shit monkey he should as rdawg pointed out come up with something a bit moar original…
Well, even if it doesn’t go to 300, we gave it the old college try.
I’d like to thank my agent, and my publicist, and the many TBPers who repeatedly put in their two cents, and a special thanks to Andrea what’s-her-face, who seems to be a comment magnet. I’m blown away by 250+.
TBPers are a passionate bunch.
Yes! We really care!
https://youtu.be/0uqjznmTp80?t=55
Greater than 95% of the comments have nothing to do with your article.
Yeah, I’d be “blown away” also.
You should also have thanked Maggie who used this thread as her own personal diary mind dump.
I think I am the publicist, Stucky.
Accept it. Robert’s making progress on the beachhead.
I did kind of reach into that little pot of memories, didn’t I? Well, I’ll tell you, Stucky, there are some aspects of the German heritage associated with aristocracy that cause me to explore my father’s family. And, once there? It gets a little disturbing.
Sometimes, girls just wanna have fun.
If you’ve never seen the movie “Grey Gardens” about the Beale relatives of Jackie O, it is a real study in what happens to the aristocracy who can’t adapt.
In my humble opinion the United States will go down the way the Soviet Union did. We are at the end of an era.