The Greatest (Sob) Story Ever Told

Guest Post by Hardscrabble Farmer

There are so many layers of rank hypocrisy in the warp and woof of this story that it reads as if it were a purposeful satire, which it is not. But it’s better for the reader to find them than to point them out.

As I have written before, Kathy Griffin is- to me- one of the least talented, most unpleasant, disagreeable, nasty, distasteful, offensive, objectionable, unsavory, unpalatable, off-putting, awful, terrible, dreadful, frightful, revolting, repulsive, repellent, repugnant, disgusting, odious, vile, foul, abhorrent, loathsome, nauseating, sickening, hateful, insufferable, intolerable, detestable, abominable, despicable, contemptible comics to have ever taken the stage.

But I’ll let you decide.

Via Hollywood Reporter

Kathy Griffin: Can a Comic in Exile Come Back?

Eight months after torching her career (and friendship with Anderson Cooper) via a not-so-funny photograph of a decapitated Donald Trump, the comedienne is holed up in her Bel Air mansion, talking to the FBI, trying to figure out what happened and pondering if it’s possible to return to the spotlight: “When you’re a woman, you get one f—up and it’s over.”

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To get to Kathy Griffin’s home, you need to pass through a series of gates. The first, an imposing barrier at the entrance to a pri­vate community in a secluded Bel Air canyon, is manned by three stone-faced guards who check your ID and glare suspiciously into your eyes before waving you in. Then you find yourself wheeling around a maze of manicured, British-sounding streets — Stonehenge Lane and Cardigan Court — until you arrive at a slightly smaller gate, where you press a speaker button in order to gain admittance. Finally, you spot the redheaded comic — all 5-foot-3 and 106 pounds of her — standing at the doorway of an enormous Mediterranean-style mansion that looks like it would be right at home on a Tuscan cliff.

“Welcome to my fuck-you house,” she announces.

Kathy Griffin, 57, shares the 13,000-square-foot residence with her 39-year-old boyfriend and tour manager, Randy Bick, and, during the day, a small staff of male assistants (“I like the idea of only having male employees,” she notes). It has nine bedrooms and 12 bathrooms. There’s an elevator, a 12-car garage, an infinity pool with jaw-dropping views, a movie theater (her “gays” are coming by shortly to watch I, Tonya) and eclectic decor (including a portrait of Griffin painted by convicted mur­derer Erik Menendez, a fan, who sent it to her from prison). She is more than happy to disclose that the house cost her $10.5 million, which she paid in cash a year and a half ago, and that Kim Kardashian and Kanye West used to live next door. The splurge was a gesture of defiance: Look, Hollywood, at what this perpetual outsider and self-described D-lister, a woman who built a thriving comedy career by mercilessly mocking celebrities, has accomplished with nothing but her own mouth and a microphone. The double-gated 24-hour security was a nice bonus to the property, but at the time she pretty much took it for granted.

Not anymore. Not since The Photo. Now those gates are the only things letting Griffin sleep at night.

“I didn’t commit a crime,” she says defiantly. “I didn’t rape anybody. I didn’t assault anybody. I didn’t get a DUI. I mean, my God, there are celebrities that fucking kill people.”
Photograghed By Adam  Amengual
“I didn’t commit a crime,” she says defiantly. “I didn’t rape anybody. I didn’t assault anybody. I didn’t get a DUI. I mean, my God, there are celebrities that fucking kill people.”

To recap: On May 30, 2017, a hastily and recklessly conceived photograph of Griffin holding up an effigy of a decapitated Donald Trump’s head started circulating online. Almost instantly, the backlash sent her life into a tailspin. She was abandoned in droves by longtime friends, terrorized with death threats from Trump supporters and targeted by federal agents investigating whether she should be charged with conspiracy to assassinate the president of the United States (after two months, they decided the answer was no). Griffin watched as overnight her lucrative comedy career — with virtually zero overhead, her grueling concert schedule was bringing in millions annually — fell apart as venue after venue canceled dates on her cross-country tour and talk shows refused to book her. Despite frantic attempts at damage control — posting a desperate-sounding apology video on YouTube, then retracting the apology in a disastrous press conference with attorney Lisa Bloom during which Griffin claimed Trump “broke me” — nothing worked. She was fired as the celebrity face of “Squatty Potty” (a toilet footstool) and, far worse, was jettisoned by CNN, where she had hosted a popular New Year’s Eve broadcast with Anderson Cooper for the past 10 years. Cooper, a longtime friend, tweeted May 30 that Griffin’s stunt was “disgusting and completely inappropriate.” The two have not spoken since.

Over these past eight months, Griffin’s fuck-you house has become her fuck-you fortress. Or perhaps her fuck-you prison. She’s remained holed up here, plotting her Hail Mary comeback, having escaped for a spell to Europe, where she says she found more forgiving audiences. Mostly, though, she’s been nursing her wounds. “I didn’t commit a crime,” she says defiantly. “I didn’t rape anybody. I didn’t assault anybody. I didn’t get a DUI. I mean, my God, there are celebrities that fucking kill people.”

Griffin’s $10.5 million Bel Air estate — complete with an elevator, movie theater and infinity pool — was purchased with cash.
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Griffin’s $10.5 million Bel Air estate — complete with an elevator, movie theater and infinity pool — was purchased with cash.

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The Trump photo came out of a May 23 session with Tyler Shields, a 35-year-old celebrity gadfly and photographer who specializes in shock value. “When you’re in between gigs and trying to stay on the map, you have to think of ways to stay in the spotlight,” says Griffin of the shoot, which was meant to drum up interest in a 50-date U.S. tour that already had gotten underway. It was a daylong production, during which Griffin had posed for “many wacky pictures” — another setup had her arching her back next to her pool in a latex bathing suit, doing her “best Kim Kardashian.” She and Shields started batting around ideas for a photo that “would fuck with Trump,” and they landed on the decapitation concept. Says Shields: “The crazy thing is, I had the last roll of film, and there were three pictures left. There are only three slides of film of that picture.”

Afterward, Griffin instructed Shields to “get it out there in whatever way the kids are getting things these days.” He put it on his website and alerted TMZ, which published the image on May 30 at 10:53 a.m. That evening, Griffin was set to host a dinner party for Melanie Griffith, Rita Wilson and Kris Jenner. As the day progressed and the outrage mounted — stoked by tweets from the Republican Party (“Since when did this kind of behavior become OK?”) and Donald Trump Jr. (“Disgusting but not sur­prising”) — the severity of what was unfolding was becoming clearer and clearer. “I wondered, ‘Should I cancel the dinner?’ And then I thought, ‘No, these are three women who could probably give me good advice.’ ” The dinner party proceeded as planned. “We sat at the table and talked about it,” recalls Griffin. “We hashed out options, and they were trying to make me feel good — getting the laughs going because I was so freaked out.”

Many of Griffin’s other famous friends, however, were not as understanding. Says Bick, who has dated Griffin since 2011: “It’s been really hard. It seems like everybody turned.” On Twitter, Debra Messing compared it to “when people lynched Obama effigies.” Chelsea Clinton called it “vile and wrong.” Bick’s brother, a former Marine, unfriended him on Facebook. Even Griffin’s own 97-year-old mother was appalled. “She said, ‘I am not with you on this one, Kathy. You’ve gone too far,’ ” recalls Griffin. But it was ultimately a pointed question from Griffin’s longtime friend Rosie O’Donnell that convinced her the stunt was a mistake. “What if Daniel Pearl’s parents saw this?” O’Donnell asked her, referring to the Wall Street Journal reporter who’d been publicly decapitated by Pakistani terrorists in 2001.

“When you’re in between gigs and trying to stay on the map, you have to think of ways to stay in the spotlight,” says Griffin of the shoot, which was meant to drum up interest in a 50-date U.S. tour that already had gotten underway.
Photograghed By Adam  Amengual
“When you’re in between gigs and trying to stay on the map, you have to think of ways to stay in the spotlight,” says Griffin of the shoot, which was meant to drum up interest in a 50-date U.S. tour that already had gotten underway.

Griffin certainly is not the first comic to careen past the lines of acceptability and suffer the consequences — comedians have been pushing taste boundaries since Lenny Bruce got arrested in 1961 for using the word “cocksucker” onstage. Bill Maher didn’t get fired for saying the N-word on a 2017 episode of HBO’s Real Time — he later apologized for it on the air — but 16 years earlier his incendiary comments right after 9/11 (saying the terrorists were “not cowardly”) led to the cancellation of his ABC show Politically Incorrect. Joan Rivers, Griffin’s mentor, pushed her luck right until her death in 2015. In 2013, she took some hits for joking of a Heidi Klum photo, “The last time a German looked this hot they were pushing Jews into the ovens.” Unlike Maher, though, Rivers made it a point never to apologize. Comedy, in her view, never had to say it was sorry.

Eventually, Griffin would come around to Rivers’ point of view, but her first instinct was to record a mea culpa and post it on YouTube. Visibly shaken, and without makeup or hair­styling, she conceded on tape that she “went way too far.” Meanwhile, calls started pouring in for interview requests, from the likes of Matt Lauer, Megyn Kelly, 60 Minutes and Howard Stern. Griffin passed on all of them. One call that did get through, however, was Lisa Bloom’s; the two had met in the greenroom at Joy Reid’s MSNBC show and Bloom later attended a brunch at Griffin’s home. According to the attorney, she sent Griffin a text message — “Are you OK?” — to which Griffin replied, “I need you.” The two got on the phone right away. Says Bloom, “She told me, ‘Will you stand with me? I’m getting a lot of private support, but nobody will stand with me.’ And I was like, ‘I will stand with you.’ ”

But the chaotic June 1 press conference that came out of that call, during which Griffin had hoped to turn the situation around by retracting her apology and instead defending the photo as a free speech issue, Joan Rivers-style — turned out to be a PR disaster. Griffin appeared flustered and rambling and at times barely coherent, all of which Griffin now blames on Bloom. “It turned out she wanted me to do an infomercial for her,” she says. “When I walked into that room, I had no idea there was going to be a banner above my head that said LisaBloom.com. I didn’t know she was going to Velcro herself to my shoulder so she couldn’t be cut out of any shot. I didn’t know she was going to hand me a mug that said LisaBloom.com. I got all of that in under three seconds.”

At the post-Trump-photo press conference with Lisa Bloom (right).
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At the post-Trump-photo press conference with Lisa Bloom (right).

Bloom, of course, has her own view of the event. She says she spent hours with Griffin the day before the conference crafting a statement. But once in front of the cameras, Griffin opted to put aside the prepared remarks and speak “off the cuff.” And, Bloom insists, it was no infomercial. “Our mugs have the firm’s name on them. And that sign is always up. It’s pretty standard.”

Whoever was at fault, the press conference only made matters worse, with death threats being sent not just to Griffin but also to the theaters where she was scheduled to appear during her tour. One by one, the cancellations started coming in. “I don’t blame the theater owners,” says Griffin. “These are theaters that are normally playing Mamma Mia! or Stomp, and all of a sudden they’re getting calls saying they’re going to ‘shoot her in the c— live onstage.’ That was the most common threat. And that they were going to ‘cut my head off and stuff it up my c—.’ ” The FBI got involved, determining that Griffin was under “credible threat” and offered her a tutorial on how to deal with the hate mail. “There’s a pile that we think is harmless,” she explains of the system. “And a pile that’s questionable. And then there’s a pile that the FBI says you put in a Ziploc bag and give to them. That’s my life now.”

But just as the FBI was giving her safety tips, the Secret Service was investigating whether she was a threat to the president. Griffin says she was interviewed by two investigators, one female and one male. The man asked her if she kept any weapons in her home. “I said, ‘No. Oh, well, I have a sword. It’s huge,’ ” she recalls. “And my lawyers looked at me like, ‘What are you doing?’ The agents got very interested and were like, ‘What is it for?’ And I was like, ‘It’s not for anything. I got it when I hosted the Gay Porn Awards.’ And I have to say, the guy smirked. He was like, ‘Tell me more about the sword.’ I was like, ‘Well, it’s big. You know the gays.’ And then it was like, ‘No more sword-asking questions.’ ”

Performing at the Best in Drag Show in October at the Orpheum Theatre in DTLA.
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Performing at the Best in Drag Show in October at the Orpheum Theatre in DTLA.

To get her life back on track, Griffin sought out the advice of crisis experts, which she promptly ignored. “I was hearing, ‘Go away for five years,’ ” she says of the meetings. “I was like, ‘I’ll tell you what: You go away for five years.’ ” Instead, she decided to take her comedy routine overseas, where there’s a longer history of savage political humor. Until the photo scandal, touring had provided Griffin with her main source of income for much of the past five years, although she grows uncharacteristically coy when asked about her finances (sources close to Griffin says she’s worth $32 million). “She’s deeply in touch with her money, like Oprah-level,” says one friend. “She signs every check, knows where every cent goes.”

In October, she launched the Laugh Your Head Off Tour in Auckland, New Zealand, then took it to Australia, Singapore and Europe. The show, which dips heavily into her legal and professional woes for material (just as Bruce did with his obscenity trials) turned out to be a savvy move; venues sold out in markets Griffin had never even dreamed of playing. “In Iceland, at one point I asked, ‘How do you guys even know me?’ And people just started yelling out, ‘The picture!’ ”

“There’s hate mail we think is harmless, a pile that’s questionable and then there’s a pile the FBI says you put in a Ziploc bag and give to them.”
Photograghed By Adam  Amengual
“There’s hate mail we think is harmless, a pile that’s questionable and then there’s a pile the FBI says you put in a Ziploc bag and give to them.”

The act played so well overseas that Griffin began mapping out a U.S. comeback. She’d ease her way home with a few Canadian dates (certainly they hated Trump as much as she did), then do a show in Mexico City (in solidarity with the Dreamers) before making a return to the U.S. Ultimately, Hollywood would come around and find a place for her back on television.

But then, in late October, while on tour in Europe, Griffin heard that Andy Cohen had been picked as her replacement for CNN’s New Year’s Eve special, and something in her snapped. Cohen had been Griffin’s boss through six seasons of her two-time Emmy-winning reality show on Bravo, My Life on the D-List, but when TMZ caught up with him at LAX on Oct. 27 to ask whether he’d sought Griffin’s blessing before taking her old gig, Cohen responded, “Who?” Griffin didn’t think it was funny and posted a 17-minute diatribe Oct. 28 on her YouTube channel in which she went off not only on Cohen (claiming he offered her cocaine backstage at his Bravo talk show) but also on TMZ chief Harvey Levin (revealing his private cellphone number on the video) and CNN boss Jeff Zucker (claiming he once fired her from New Year’s Eve Live for asking for a pay raise and then hired her back with a 20 percent pay cut), among others. (Cohen, Levin and Zucker all declined to comment for this story, as did Cooper.)

Griffin (center) replaced the late Joan Rivers on E!&#39;s <em>Fashion Police</em> in 2015. She left after seven episodes.
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Griffin (center) replaced the late Joan Rivers on E!’s Fashion Police in 2015. She left after seven episodes.

Griffin regrets nothing — not even the cocaine story, which Cohen has dismissed on Twitter as “100% false and totally made up.” She says she shared it “to illustrate a double standard. If it was me [offering drugs backstage], somebody at Bravo would have said, ‘You have to go.’ When you’re a woman, you get one fuckup, and it’s over. When you’re a guy, you get chance after chance after chance.”

New Year’s Eve always was going to be a challenging night for Griffin. Her firing from the broadcast had, after all, been the unkindest cut of all. Her friendship with Cooper stretches back to 2001, when Cooper, then hosting ABC’s reality competition The Mole, appeared as a guest on Griffin’s short-lived MTV show Kathy’s So-Called Reality. They instantly hit it off. “My joke was, ‘I’ve known him since he was banging chicks,’ ” says Griffin. “We were close. I loved him. I really loved him.”

She spent New Year’s Eve at home “with my handsome boyfriend, making love,” she says. The plan was to avoid watching CNN. But Bick had DVR’d the New Year’s broadcast without telling her — he’d planned to “hate watch” it at a future date — and when texts and tweets started rolling in saying the show was “a train wreck” without her, the evening’s plans changed. “Kathy said, ‘I want to watch,’ ” recalls Bick. “I said, ‘Are you sure? It could be painful.’ But we turned it on, and she was like, ‘This is a dumpster fire.’ ”

In fact, despite tepid reviews, the broadcast had its biggest ratings ever, with 3.3 million viewers, 8 percent higher than Griffin’s final appearance.

With Anderson Cooper on Dec. 31, 2016.
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With Anderson Cooper on Dec. 31, 2016.

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Griffin arrives for lunch at Santa Monica’s Ivy at the Shore in a glittering black Maserati. She hasn’t been out on the town much since the scandal broke, so she’s obviously put some effort into this interview date in mid-January. She’s in full makeup, her hair dyed a fiery red and neatly shorn. (She shaved it off as a show of support for her sister Joyce, who died in September of cancer, and now keeps it cropped.) She’s wearing a tight dress with a plunging neckline, large green sunglasses and carrying a fur-trimmed Chanel purse, which she plops down on the table with purpose. (“I got it at the outlet, but it was still very expensive.”) She orders the spicy corn chowder, of which she will eat three spoonfuls (“Too spicy,” she says). Despite the theatrical entrance, no one in the packed room seems to notice her; if they do, they don’t seem to care.

Griffin seems a little surprised by the low-key reception; nowadays she’s accustomed to “gasps” when she enters a room (as happened at a recent funeral). She is all too aware that she’s trapped in the Hollywood equivalent of a gulag. But not everyone thinks it’s game over. “She didn’t hurt anyone,” says Jimmy Kimmel, who already has offered Griffin a spot on his show whenever she’s ready to talk. He’s predicting a comeback in her future. “She is one of the funniest people in the world,” he says. “She’ll be bigger than ever.”

&quot;I am a 57-year-old woman who should command respect,&quot; Griffin says. &quot;I have the hardware. I certainly have more qualifications than Andy Cohen.&quot;
Photograghed By Adam  Amengual
“I am a 57-year-old woman who should command respect,” Griffin says. “I have the hardware. I certainly have more qualifications than Andy Cohen.”

Griffin tends to agree, and she is plotting her next steps. She’s been reaching out to anyone who might help, including J.J. Abrams — Griffin’s former improv student at the Groundlings school back in the mid-1980s — who met with her recently to discuss her various TV ideas. She spends her days writing, making videos, working on new stand-up material and, lately, feuding with her 60-something-year-old neighbors over their loud music playing (they’re going to court Feb. 16). “I mean, I do normal stuff, like see my mom and play with my puppies,” she says, “but my mind is always focused on the best way to move forward.”

But outside of touring — she plans to return to North America sometime soonish — Griffin’s options are limited and often insulting (she was sent an offer to do stand-up at a “Pop-Up Comedy Club in Beirut, Lebanon”). Netflix, a natural home with its heavy stand-up push, wants nothing to do with her (especially after Griffin accused Lisa Nishimura, vp original docs and comedy at Netflix, of sexism in a Nov. 11 tweet). And NBCUniversal properties like Bravo, E! and NBC won’t touch her, either, at least not at the moment. “It’s still a day-by-day process,” says Bick. “We still don’t know what’s going to happen the next time she does a show in the States. We’re still on edge.”

But Griffin is undeterred. “The minute I do something that makes money, they will all love me again,” she says, slowly stirring her spicy soup with a spoon. “When I’m dead, I’ll be a legend. But not now.”

Photographed by Adam Amengua

This story first appeared in the Jan. 31 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine. To receive the magazine, click here to subscribe.

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Conversationalist
Conversationalist
February 1, 2018 10:06 am

Maybe she should get into movies? I’d like to see her do a remake of the wood chipper scene in Fargo.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
  Conversationalist
February 1, 2018 10:23 am

Or Titanic. This time she jumps.

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
  Zarathustra
February 1, 2018 2:08 pm

I hope her cunt falls out.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Martin brundlefly
February 1, 2018 2:22 pm

Then she’d be a dude, flyboy.

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
  Anonymous
February 1, 2018 4:29 pm

Got the haircut for it. After her cunt fell out, thats all thats left anywhooo

Dick Jones
Dick Jones
  Martin brundlefly
February 1, 2018 9:59 pm

Well, if the comments are any indication, the tide is turning.

Nobody seems to be buying her “I’m a strong, empowered woman, except everyone is being mean to me, and it’s not fair” schtick.

Probably some money changed hands for the Hollywood Reporter to write this hilariously transparent puff piece.

javelin
javelin
  Zarathustra
February 1, 2018 2:20 pm

All her associates Z, I’m sure you noticed, are either gay or named Levin, Zucker, Cohen etc…of course this no-talent is worth millions

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Conversationalist
February 1, 2018 11:51 am

This talentless moron is worth $32 million and has a mansion in BelAir? We are doomed…..

Pauncho
Pauncho
  pyrrhus
February 1, 2018 12:09 pm

You miss a very important distinction. She HAS 32 million$, she is not WORTH 32 million$. A person’s worth is based on what they do, not what they have. I once read that all the minerals in a human body are worth about 89 cents. That’s KG’s actual worth. Nothing more.

Art
Art
  pyrrhus
February 1, 2018 2:26 pm

Who knew being an asshole paid so well!

Dutchman
Dutchman
February 1, 2018 10:16 am

I’m rarely at a loss for words, but this one of the times.

This is similar to the pro sports players – there are enough chumps to buy tickets to the games. Same with this bitch. Imbeciles, who else would pay to hear this dribble?

Iconoclast421
Iconoclast421
February 1, 2018 10:19 am

I kind of wish they hadnt reacted to her bloody little photo the way they had. It would be nice to drop this pretense of civility we pretend to have with these people who are bringing in a massive 3rd world invading army to collapse our government and society into a commie shithole. They are the enemy, and we should celebrate every bloody head they hold, because each one means 10 of theirs will be held.

unit472/
unit472/
February 1, 2018 10:24 am

The writer must get paid by the word. There is certainly nothing Kathy Griffin’s ‘career’ to justify such a long article. I imagine the house will be back on the market soon as the upkeep and taxes on such a place require an ample income which Griffin no longer generates.

Gilnut
Gilnut
  unit472/
February 1, 2018 12:05 pm

I agree completely, no offense HS but I could only make it about half way through and the nausea overcame me. Anybody have cliff notes? 😉

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
  Gilnut
February 1, 2018 2:10 pm

All you need to know is she fucked herself and its everyone elses fault because woman.

Unsavory
Unsavory
February 1, 2018 10:34 am

If she and Carrot-top ever had an excessively salivating child, it would look a lot like Joe Kennedy.

factual
factual
February 1, 2018 10:55 am

Another hypocrite liberal hiding behind high walls and armed guards and putting out a carbon footprint as big as a small town! Of course, they are special!
Too funny!

Bubbah
Bubbah
February 1, 2018 11:05 am

Yeah, I never found her remotely funny. At this point I view hollywood and all related as enemies to America. So I do my best to avoid nearly everything in the entertainment industry. I watch old movies occassionally, at least back then the politics was pretty much kept a personal thing. There aren’t alot of comics that I really enjoy anymore anyway, although I watch so little comedy routines now adays perhaps I’m just not well informed. Clearly TV “comics” are a large group of ideologues Kimmel etc. They are shitty comedians to begin with, the real comics likely are hitting the comedy clubs and bars. I really wish Carlin was still around just to get on the talk shows and fuck with them.

I hope the whole entertainment industry dies on the vine, I for one would rather go back to just reading books, listening to music and play board games. The media industrial complex is driven by marxist-nihilism at this point, but it has long moved people toward becoming just passive voyeurs of life, rather than active participants. Our entertainment forms have negatively affected us both cognitively, morally, and physically. We have become a nation of sedentary sheep and Hollywood are the priests of this distorted new secular religion. But just like too many Catholic priests, the celebs have no moral high ground to stand on.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Bubbah
February 1, 2018 11:53 am

Was there ever a female comic who was funny? Just asking….

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
  pyrrhus
February 1, 2018 2:11 pm

Gilda radner.

splurge
splurge
  pyrrhus
February 1, 2018 4:03 pm

Not always, but often Lily Tomlin

Anonymous
Anonymous
  pyrrhus
February 1, 2018 5:14 pm

See HF’s rant below.

Mustang
Mustang
  pyrrhus
February 1, 2018 5:34 pm

I like Anita Renfro.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  pyrrhus
February 1, 2018 6:17 pm

Lucille Ball

Maggie
Maggie
  Anonymous
February 1, 2018 6:20 pm

Carole Burnett

Findlay Austin
Findlay Austin
February 1, 2018 11:14 am

Does the writer have any more adjectives to describe her?

Dutchman
Dutchman
  Findlay Austin
February 1, 2018 11:20 am

Cunt

Fatman in Oz
Fatman in Oz
  Dutchman
February 2, 2018 2:59 am

How dare you call her cunt. Every man from royal ruler to poorest peasant, wants to touch the cunt, feel the cunt, taste the cunt and fuck the cunt. Cunt is the most useful thing. Kathy Griffin is not useful.

A. R. Wasem
A. R. Wasem
February 1, 2018 11:21 am

Could add “unfunny”.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
February 1, 2018 11:24 am

HSF please don’t take this as a negative comment. I am sure that you are very displeased with KG and I know you want to show how hypocritical the whole business is, but your forte is in writing insightful articles, not in republishing someone else’s article. I am pretty sure that had you taken the time to craft your own article in rebuttal to this one your’s would be far better and of course, far shorter.

I see that this bothers you but I personally would prefer to spend my time reading your thoughts rather than those of a cog inside the machine which is in place to rehabilitate shining stars which have lost their luster.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 1, 2018 11:47 am

I don’t like comedians. I have the impression they are class clowns who never grew up. Since Lenny Bruce perhaps half their gig is filthy language – funny for it’s shock value only. I think they are demented people with little talent, oh, they have skills but natural talent is rare yet easy to spot. Not that I care to look.

I don’t understand why people pay for concerts. It’s a party but I don’t like crowds. I would never pay to go see a comedian or a rock star. You will never find me at a political rally. I hope never.

One comedian I especially hated was Katt Williams. Like many black entertainers, I wouldn’t call them actors, half their skills consist of mugging for the camera.

Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate funny people. I can see the value of comedy as social criticism. Comedians look for and spot foibles and inconsistencies in the culture, MAD magazine traded in that area. They made us look at ourselves and correct foolish habits wearing like hair curlers in public, (I think MAD magazine killed Bermuda shorts) for example. Many of the mindsets we see today started, meme like, in a comedian’s gig; the ‘press one for English’ standard joke, the ‘I want to drive nails in my head’ expression has to be from a comedy routine…Comedians have a lot of power of persuasion, I suppose they know they are hypnotizing the crowd and resetting some of their RAM brain cells semi-permanently.

What are some dark secrets of comedy? You gave a lot of insights before in your recollections article. I just wonder, what are you seeing when your up on stage, from the moment you walk on until you die and crawl off stage?

OK, going back to dismissing other people’s problems.

nkit
nkit
  Anonymous
February 1, 2018 12:07 pm

Back around 1977 I saw Jerry Seinfeld do a stand up comedy routine. Two comedians preceded him. Both relied on foul language to generate laughs. The foul language did not offend me, but made me realize after Jerry was finished just how good he was at his craft. He never used one foul word in his entire routine and was exceedingly more hilarious than the other two. Resorting to vulgarity and obscenity seems totally unnecessary if one is a true comedian.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  nkit
February 1, 2018 12:49 pm

Cosby didn’t use vulgarity – although unbeknownst to everyone, he was committing it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Iska Waran
February 1, 2018 1:34 pm

He didn’t use bad language but…We had a teacher, reported to be the nephew of the superintendent, who was a godsend for middle-school kids. He went on to become a hs teacher and was similarly popular. He’d tell us 7th graders things like; Art, your so short you could sue the city for making the curbs so near to your waist. I don’t give a damn, and if you tell anybody I was cussing, I will call you a liar. Oh, man we loved him. Anyway, he had his own curriculum, he didn’t follow the general school teaching plan. He gave us some marvelous books to read and he played Bill Cosby’s album (that’s what LP’s were called) we listened to stories about Cosby’s dad, the giant. One story, I’m not sure but I recall it as if it was there we heard it – was about teen-age boys arriving to pick up a date and ‘they didn’t need to push the doorbell with their finger’. I’m hip.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Anonymous
February 1, 2018 1:15 pm

In life there are certain little subsets of information that you master from having been there and done that. When you stumble across an article that pertains to an area of expertise, you read it in a very different way than you would something with which you are completely unfamiliar. Those you often take at face value simply because you have no real understanding or knowledge. It’s a strange phenomenon of human behavior, an automatic gullibility that must serve some kind of purpose in the bigger picture, who knows.

But when you do find something that you know about intimately all you see are the mistakes, the fabrications, and the fabulism of a con job in situ.

That’s what happened here. I know comedy, I know (knew) Kathy and I know about her experience.

And nothing in the world offends me as much as a hypocrite. People who hold view points that are polar opposites of mine are some of my closest friends as long as I know they walk the walk.

Now have I told jokes that were regrettable? You betcha. Have I bombed on stage and eaten it? Affirmative, big time. But I was also a solid act who gave audiences a good show, night after night no matter how I felt or what was going on in my life and I never ragged on the audience or blamed other people or dropped dimes on friends and associates for their private behavior. Kathy says that women only get one shot? The only reason she ever made a dollar in comedy was because of being a woman and she got more shots in more areas after performing poorly than a thousand far funnier comics ever had the opportunity to realize.

Listen, I know that people say comedy is a lot like art, some people like different things than other people, it’s all relative, tastes are different and to a degree I’ll give you that, but when I say she’s not funny, I mean that in pure structural terms. She wasn’t and still isn’t a joke writer. There are just as many formal structures in comedy as there are in grammar, or piano playing or any other discipline. She’s part of the John Cage/Ad Rheinhardt school of poseurs and grifters who play the role of the artist but who never exhibit the skills or the discipline, who deliver some sort of janky schtick that resembles the real thing without any of the thing behind it. Fake comic.

Are there funny women comics? Sure there are but you’ve probably never heard of them because they were too busy making audiences laugh in all the little clubs and one-nighters in flyover country rather than schmoozing with degenerate showbiz types in the NYC/LA scene; T Marni Vos, Beth Donahue, Wendy Liebman, Kathleen Madigan to name a few. Go ahead and Schpoogle “funniest female comics” and read the list that comes up. Maybe one in ten said something funny once, but almost all of them are actress wannabes who couldn’t M.C. an open mic night, much less do a solid hour of comedy with a laugh every 15 to 20 seconds. Go ahead and see if you can find a single minute of videotape on any of them that elicits more than a chuckle or two and I’ll send you my big toe. Watching squirrels cross the road delivers bigger laughs than Natasha Leggero, Tig Notero and Margaret Cho all rolled up into one big unfunny ball. And I have no idea what the odds of all three of those randomly selected females having a last name that ends in O, but hey, it’s interesting in a matrix-y kind of way so I’m leaving it.

And here’s the thing. She could have used that event to re-purpose her life. She could have tried a little introspection, maybe even found some kind of honest redemption and come out of her self-inflicted career suicide a better person, and people would have absolutely given her another shot, but instead she does this piece and shows what a low-life, hypocritical, out of touch, ungrateful, rat bastard egomaniac she really is.

“I am a 57-year-old woman who should command respect.”

WTF? I don’t think Patton ever said something like that. And within a sentence she states-

“…but my mind is always focused on the best way to move forward.”

As if.

You’ve literally burned every bridge you’ve ever been carried across, you’ve ratted out friends and now, holed up in your 13,000 foot, 12 bathroom Mediterranean mansion in Bel Air you’ve got the chutzpah to claim you’ve somehow been given the short end of the stick? The hubris, it burns.

Sorry, I just couldn’t resist sharing this with the rest of the class.

End rant.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  hardscrabble farmer
February 1, 2018 1:45 pm

Thank you. Great rant. Exactly what I wanted to read.

RiNS the deplorable
RiNS the deplorable
  Hollywood Rob
February 1, 2018 1:59 pm

It was excellent!

Maggie
Maggie
  hardscrabble farmer
February 1, 2018 2:16 pm

I am standing with you on this. She is a POS who mistakes crass vulgarity for cutting edge humor

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Maggie
February 1, 2018 2:21 pm

Maggie’s Indian name means Stands with a Canuck or Stands with a Canuckie, I’m not sure, the exact meaning is lost in translation.

Maggie
Maggie
  Anonymous
February 1, 2018 6:27 pm

One of these days, Alice…to the moon.

Which invites additional HSF comments at times. Who saw the blueblood moon?

Robert Gore
Robert Gore
  hardscrabble farmer
February 1, 2018 3:05 pm

HSF

An outstanding rant. You have my respect, standing in front of an audience and being funny. I’ve stood in front of audiences for speeches. It’s terrifying and I don’t do it well. I’ve also tried to write comedy. It’s difficult to impossible and I don’t do it well, either. I’ll take your word for it about KG’s personality and talent. I read the article and you’re right, if she wanted to come back she could have come back. That would, however, have required introspection, contrition, and wisdom. I lived in West Los Angeles for many years and in that part of the world, those qualities are as rare as ski slopes in the Sahara. Thanks for posting the article; it was yet another reminder why I’m so happy to no longer be there.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  Robert Gore
February 1, 2018 5:47 pm

I’m just sayin…
[img]https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/bikini-girl-skiing-on-a-sand-dune-picture-id187861493[/img]

DRUD
DRUD
  hardscrabble farmer
February 2, 2018 5:51 am

Kathy Griffin is clearly a talentless comedian and a dreadful human being. I think you nailed it with the total lack of introspection. It could be easy for one to fall into the trap of getting angry at her undeserved success. But you simply have to redefine success. Looking at her from the Socratic perspective of “the unexamined life is not worth living” I couldn’t imagine a more wasted life than hers has been heretofore and she shows exactly zero desire to change.
I said it before on a KG post and I’ll say it again…if enough people simply ignore the talentless twat we can banish her back to the obscurity from which she should never have emerged–good rant and a nice glimpse into just self serving and hypocritical she (and most of Hollywood) really is, but from this perspective a fail. None of us should waste even a single neuron firing on her.
I listen to a comedy station sometimes inn my commute. I do like Kathleen Madigan a lot. The on my person who Google lists among the funniest women that I find genuinely funny is Maria Bamford– gimmick perhaps but there is a lot of talent and craft behind it.

lauren
lauren
February 1, 2018 12:19 pm

She is like Hillary Clinton. Can’t the two of them just shut up and go the fuck away already. I don’t want to ever see this talentless piece of shit ever again. What would the Hollywood elites have thought if somebody would have held up Obama’s head. Can you imagine? She did go too far, like all of the comedians who are mocking out Trump. I’m glad they are suddenly having trouble finding employment.

Centurion44
Centurion44
February 1, 2018 12:22 pm

Via Hollywood Reporter must have been paid “by the word”. The entire article could have been summed up in one short paragraph. Griffin thought she was cool and was appealing to the lunatic left and even they deserted her. She’s not funny, not attractive and now she’s not anybody. Thirty-two mill will buy a lot of Kleenex and she’s going to need them!

RiNS the deplorable
RiNS the deplorable
February 1, 2018 1:11 pm

Not sure what the author is trying to do. Red is hardly sympathetic muse in this farce. She is unfunny and deserves what she got…

Gerold
Gerold
February 1, 2018 2:51 pm

One of the differences between an adult and a child is the adult knows that all actions have consequences. Lefty snowflakes like Griffith are perpetual children who are unable to accept responsibility for themselves.

Some have said that Liberalism is a mental illness. I doubt that perpetual immaturity is listed in the psychiatric manual, but it’s without a doubt a major shortcoming for those so inflicted and one wonders how they make it through the day. I certainly wouldn’t want to be in their heads let alone what passes for Griffith’s brains.

Griffith has exposed her true self to the world. The best way to deal with such vile creatures is ignore them and don’t pay them any attention. I’ve already said more than she deserves …

Andrea Iravani
Andrea Iravani
February 1, 2018 3:05 pm

Kathy Griffin is not funny. She doesn’t even know what defines comedy. Being mean, antagonistic, annoying, and insulting is not funny,it is just being an asshole, and i don’t know why anyone considers her funny.

These are some of my all time favorites:
Lewis Black on Republicans and Democrats Working Together:
https://youtu.be/CZGk_wVgq_0

Ron White: I Got Thrown Out of a Bar:

Steve Martin : The Cruel Shoes:

Peace,
Andrea Iravani

xrugger
xrugger
February 1, 2018 3:37 pm

So, I’m supposed to believe this dopey broad’s travails are even remotely worth the time it takes to read about them? I got through a few paragraphs, realized what I was doing as well as how long the post was and bailed.

Hollywood boneheads are intellectual ciphers in general and this big-mouthed termagant is a particularly vile example of the species. Giving any of them any attention is an exercise in narcissistic re-enforcement that none of them need .

Sorry HSF. I generally like your posts and comments (and the syrup is great), but I think your time is too valuable to spend it ruminating on this cunt. I know mine is.

Regards

ASIG
ASIG
February 1, 2018 3:47 pm

“When I’m dead, I’ll be a legend. But not now.”

May I make a suggestion……

RHS Jr
RHS Jr
February 1, 2018 4:41 pm

Jews butchered all God’s Prophets; they never learn.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
February 1, 2018 4:42 pm

HSF said:
“As I have written before, Kathy Griffin is- to me- one of the least talented, most unpleasant, disagreeable, nasty, distasteful, offensive, objectionable, unsavory, unpalatable, off-putting, awful, terrible, dreadful, frightful, revolting, repulsive, repellent, repugnant, disgusting, odious, vile, foul, abhorrent, loathsome, nauseating, sickening, hateful, insufferable, intolerable, detestable, abominable, despicable, contemptible comics to have ever taken the stage.”

Besides that, she is *yougly* (*yougly* is when ugly goes all the way down to the bone….according to my father), which is why I had to stop reading there HSF. No offense but no. Just hell no. I’m not reading about her. It’s bad enough she has a 1o second spot in the greatest movie ever made. I’m hoping Quentin can edit her out when he re-masters his masterpiece. She added NOTHING to the picture.

Maple Curtain
Maple Curtain
February 1, 2018 4:51 pm

I must be from Iceland…never heard of the waste of space until ‘the photo.’

It’s healthy to stay away from Talmudvision.

Mustang
Mustang
February 1, 2018 5:21 pm

Dear Kathy, you say you demand respect but you completely disrespected the President of the United States. Explain that one to me? If Conservatives would have held up a fake severed head of Obama would you have defended their right to “freedom of speech”??? I didn’t think so. You named your tour “Laugh Your Head Off Tour”. Seriously?!?!? You just don’t get it do you??? Kathy please explain to me why people pay their hard earned money to see you. I really would like to know. You live a lifestyle that is completely foreign to 95% of Americans. Finally please explain to me why you women with small or non-existent breasts insist on wearing low-cut tops to show off your non-existent breasts???

Mustang
Mustang
February 1, 2018 5:27 pm

Guys, had enough? The entertainment community is mostly far left, nut job, flaming, on fire Liberals/Leftists just like Kathy. Quit going to their concerts. Quit going to their movies. Quit buying their music. Quit watching their tv programs. When you do these things you only reinforce their bad behavior.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
February 1, 2018 7:17 pm

She had Joan Rivers as a mentor??
Now we know where the toxic obnoxion came from.

That was one nasty old bitch.

Maggie
Maggie
  YourAverageJoe
February 2, 2018 6:39 am

Phyllis Diller without the charm. And without the beauty. Rivers was the original “mean girl.” Catty and spiteful.

Ever see the clip where she says everyone knows Michelle is a tranny? Then, she dies?

Mark
Mark
February 1, 2018 10:06 pm

This was one of the articles I skimmed lightly through using all my Evelyn Wood’s powers…then got right to the meat and the potatoes…

The comments!

I have turned her off on the tube for many years.

Westcoastdeplorable
Westcoastdeplorable
February 1, 2018 10:42 pm

Kathy Griffin was always pathetic and never funny. I totally agree with HSF.

Thunderdolt
Thunderdolt
February 2, 2018 6:23 am

Laughing your head off! — HaHa Plop!
Cutting Trump’s Head off! — HaHa FLOP!

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