Oklahoma Sucks. Don’t Move There

Anticipating the Bunny Killer’s response …. yeah, NJ sucks ass also. But, at least we pay our teachers. Ms. Freud and I often discuss where we will move when my parents transition to The Great Beyond.  We’re starting to realize there is no perfect place in ‘Murica for us. I guess we’ll just have to settle for a place called  “at-least-this-place-isn’t-as-shitty-as-other-shitholes”. Like OK and NJ.

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Oklahoma schools go on 4-day weeks so teachers can work at Walmart on Mondays to make rent

In 1992, Oklahoma passed a ballot initiative saying that the state could only raise taxes with a three quarters majority in the state assembly, creating a one-way ratchet where every tax cut becomes effectively permanent, including the sweetheart deals cut for frackers and the deep cuts to taxes on the wealthiest residents of the state.

As a result, the state is going broke. Teachers haven’t gotten a raise in 10 years and the only way they can afford to accept the pay — third-worst in the nation — is by negotiating a four-day school week in 90 districts, freeing teachers up to take jobs at Walmart on Mondays to make ends meet.

Teachers are fleeing the state in droves, including the Teacher of the Year, who quit his job in 2016 shortly after receiving his award, taking a better-paid teaching job in a neighboring state (the Dallas school system actively recruits Oklahoma teachers with Oklahoma City hiring booths).

Teachers are especially hard hit: their health plan was replaced with a private system that eats up more than $1000/month for a family of three — one teaching aide was actually paying to work her job, spending $200/month more on health insurance than she was paid in salary. Teachers make ends meet with public housing vouchers and food stamps, and school food-bank drives sometimes give their leftovers to hungry teachers and their families.

It’s not just teachers: the highway patrol has been given orders not to completely fill their gas-tanks at the pump, to help with state cash-flow; drunk drivers go free because there is no one available to process their tickets, and the prison system is on the verge of collapse.

No fact embarrasses Oklahomans more, or repels prospective businesses more, than the number of cash-strapped districts that have gone to four-day weeks. Yet even such a radical change may not help finances much. Paul Hill, a professor of education at the University of Washington, Bothell, estimates that the savings are “in the 1 or 2% range at most”. That sliver is still important to Kent Holbrook, superintendent of public schools in Inola (the self-styled “Hay Capital of the World”). “In my mind, that’s five or six teachers,” says Mr Holbrook. Already, from 2008 to 2016, he has lost 11 teachers from a corps that once numbered 100. He has also had to reduce Spanish classes and, for the tenth year running, delay buying new textbooks.

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Ghost

Why, an invitation from Stucky to throw the first turd?

Oklahoma has very little going for it. Sooners. Thunder. Tornadoes.

Teachers in Oklahoma public schools are little more than babysitters, with some of the projects my son turning in no better than some I did in elementary school. And, while I’m sure it is bad in many rural states where no one has any ambition toward anything beyond working at the Air Force Depot and joining the Union so you can screw off most of the day and get paid big bucks. But, Oklahoma is particularly bad with half the state flying OU flags and the other half OSU flags and most college educated people came from out of state.

Oh, and they have hundreds of school districts with superintendents making six figures. and guess what? they can give themselves raises.

Assholes. I just might drive to the state line and flip them off when I go meet Mary.

That’ll show ’em.

Mary Christine

Superintendents that make six figures seems to be a problem in Kansas and Missouri, too.

Maggie
Maggie

Don’t I know it and could name names. One of my old TEACHERS married one of someone two years older than I LESS than two years after he graduated and she divorced. She was the daughter of the School Board President (controlled a lot of dollars in the community) and has become the worst superintendent in the history of the school. Her husband NEVER completed college and he is the high school basketball coach. Huh?

starfcker

I don’t know, I just looked it up. It’s a PDF, I can’t post it here. They start them at 32 grand, state mimimum. Local districts can pay more if they want. Sounds fine to me. Oklahoma did good with that law. You notice the guy says he had to cut back on Spanish stuff. Inola, Oklahoma has a population of 1700. But they have 100 teachers? Sounds reasonable. We overpay teachers here in Florida. They’re not brain surgeons. Oklahoma looks like they have it under control. Good for them

TampaRed
TampaRed

what is overpaid star?
my wife is a math teacher in one of the bay area school systems and only makes 40k–
she’s had 2 raises in the last 10 years which together came to approximately 4%–
our health insurance for her,myself and our daughter is approximately $1300/month–
does it sound like she’s overpaid?
the problem is not the teachers,it’s parents,politicians and administrators–
private schools are so much more effective because the parents are so much more motivated than public school parents–

starfcker

Tampa, my aunt was a teacher in Manatee County right below you, I looked up the stats there a year back to prove a point, and was pleasantly surprised at the sanity in that school system. Down on my end, they spend 22 grand per student, It’s a joke.

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly

My friends wife teaches in the SUNY school system in buffalo ny. She makes 140k after 16 years and the most insane benefits, glorious healthcare. But they pay over 9k in school taxes on their 2000sqft home. Notable number two on the list of poorest cities. Go figure.

starfcker

Exactly, Martin

RHS Jr
RHS Jr

Private schools IQs are a tad better too.

Mustang
Mustang

32,000 for teaching? Wow, that’s $10,000 more than what I made as a local truck driver! I would jump for joy if I could make that much!

starfcker

Ask yourself this, Stuckey. In the courts, you have to have what’s called standing, if you want to sue somebody. You can’t just troublemake from afar on issues that don’t concern you. Why would a guy living in Great Britain who writes science fiction, write an article like this about the tax structure in the state of Oklahoma? Not his fucking business. Jim just posted an article about checkbook journalism a couple days ago. Ya think?

Covefefe
Covefefe

It’s why Texas doesn’t fall into the gulf of mejico.

PeakMaster
PeakMaster

At least NJ has an ocean. As far as teachers… perhaps their plight in Oklahoma is a shitty one but I could give a shit about teachers… way overrated for an occupation that works 9 months out of the year and barely puts in an 8 hour day.
I’ll wait for the comments that I don’t know what I’m talking about..
How they are dedicated to the kids and get up at the crack of dawn and stay late to help the retard kids that are too dumb to grasp the basics… Horseshit. Become a teacher if you can’t get a real job. Become a catholic school teacher if you can’t get a real teaching job.

mine tray
mine tray

“As far as teachers….”……….a bunch of degenerates barely functional as a 7-Eleven cashier, they either emotionally or sexually abuse children while indoctrinating with trotskyite claptrap goobledygook…..no wonder there are multiple generations of moronic zombies whose idea of critical thinking is which thumb to press on their electronic device….and whose parents are stupid enough to buy them chi-comm trash and trinkets

Dutchman
Dutchman

The reason we have these snowflake / aimless millennial’s can be attributed to the government schools that have brainwashed and given the children fucked up ideas.

RHS Jr
RHS Jr

Need to distinguish between teachers and government employees.

Dutchman
Dutchman

They are the same.

Dutchman
Dutchman

NJ is still worse. I remember the 1967 Newark Riot – went on for a week. I don’t think it every recovered from that.

PeakMaster
PeakMaster

True. Newark was, is and likely will always be a shithole. Paterson is Islamabad on the Passaic. Is it the neutron bomb that kills the population but leaves the buildings standing?

Dutchman
Dutchman

Do we want the buildings standing? I say drop the blade on the D-11 Cat, and scrape it clean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdVasbNKiAk

PeakMaster
PeakMaster

Good point. Maybe some of the older ones but few.

Covefefe
Covefefe

Camden….Lagos on the Delaware…far worse than Haiti on the Hudson…Newark…

PeakMaster
PeakMaster

I would argue that. I worked in JC…the 2nd largest NJ city…next to Newark. I did a job that you only see the real scumbags of the human race(the acronym is an astrological sign for a big cat).
I can tell you, Newark is the standard by which shitholes are measured. But at least Newark PD is/was able to contain it. CPD was so corrupt it had to be disbanded. In fact, NJSP was called in several times do what CPD didn’t…many times.
AC is Camden by the sea.

Anonymous
Anonymous

See what happens when you don’t raise taxes and increase spending?

hardscrabble farmer

I simply cannot muster up a single gram of concern.

We have three children with a total of 29 years of schooling between them and I can recall four teachers that had any kind of positive impact on my children. 4 out of 160 or more. Schools and teachers overwhelmingly represent the bottom of the barrel. They are indoctrination centers and employment hubs for government drones. You should read the emails they send- barely literate, rife with grammatical errors, horrible syntax and concerned about social issues in the 20:1 range as opposed to subject matter. It’s embarrassing.

Why do I send my children, you ask?

It is an education in how to deal with the majority population they will encounter for the rest of their adult lives. We take care of the important subjects at home and we debrief daily. You’d be surprised at how resilient and aware this has made them.

Dutchman
Dutchman

In Plato’s time – there were no books – thus the lecture was invented. But such is not the case any more. We have several of the Great Courses DVD’s. The courses are taught by people who actually know the subjects, and are excited to present them. Used properly, this would greatly cut down the required number of teachers.

I had maybe 2 or 3 memorable teachers when I attended ‘government school’. The rest were there to collect a check and prepare for retirement.

We home schooled our children. All got into college.

https://www.thegreatcourses.com/?ai=157716&cmp=PS_Branded_Google_2018Web&mkwid=sXoOdNt4B_dc&pcrid=245901461172&pkw=great%20courses&pmt=e&cmp=PS_Branded_google_&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIm6q3mtag2QIVlLrACh3t0gJFEAAYASAAEgJdv_D_BwE

Realist
Realist

Couldn’t agree more about teachers being overrated. They whine and complain about their plight all the while taking more and more days off, teaching nothing, not giving a whit for the kids, bitching about being underpaid, etc. There are teacher “in-service” days where you find them hanging out at Starbucks laughing and discussing their vacation plans, late-start school days so they can sit and drink coffee and eat donuts, extended vacations where they now take a whole week off at Thanksgiving, ad nauseum. I remember attending teacher conference days where the teacher didn’t even show up to discuss my child’s progress. And my kids have been out of school for 10 years now so can’t imagine dealing with it today. “It’s all for the children” my ass.

Mad as hell
Mad as hell

I must agree with the peanut gallery on this one. I could give two shits about the “plight of teachers”. I frankly love the idea of a tax cut ratcheting down vs. up. California and New York have some of the highest taxes in the nation – hows that doing for them? NJ same deal. Chicago anyone?
No, the problem is that the higher ups take all the money – regardless of tax structure – and then what is left trickles down to the teachers, teachers aids etc. If they have to work at Walmart, well then, maybe you should not have taken on multi-thousand dollar student loans in a career field that has historically NEVER paid much.
Ultimately, the people of Oklahoma, like the people of every other state are to blame for not holding these “higher ups” accountable. I wonder how many parents actually go to the school board meetings and ask pointed budget questions, say like ” so Mr. Superintendent, why are you making six figures, have 2 personal assistants, and gold plan health care while my sons / daughters teacher is working at Walmart?”. I bet the number would not even use up one hand of fingers. The people get the Government they deserve through ignorance and apathy.

Wip
Wip

Greed or envy?

Ottomatik
Ottomatik

I must disagree, at least visit OK for this in June:

http://www.oklahomafullauto.com/

Stuck if you need you can bring a sleeping bag and crash with us for a redneck good time.

JLS
JLS

Shall we move to Taxachusetts then? I heard that the public schools there are the least bad in the nation. However, we will pay much more state income and local property taxes along with housing costs. Maybe another tax, snow-induced depression tax.

TPC
TPC

I got bounced from school-to-school and even in the last place that could tolerate me ended up spending copious amounts of time in suspension/detention.

Mostly for butting heads with teachers.

I can literally only think of 2 or 3 teachers with any positive impact on my life. I didn’t meet the first one until 8th grade.

It was much the same in college. The vast majority of what is taught in college is of minimal use in the real world, with the exception of the underlying science behind STEM.

Healthcare, Education, Welfare, Warfare….our country is one big racket.

MoreWork
MoreWork

As an Oklahoman I agree with the author. If, after reading about the new 4 day school week you take a dim view of Oklahoma, please don’t move here.

James M Dakin

As someone who lived in OK for a time ( nice place, nice people outside the ghettos, affordable land, no jobs ), I could not believe the high taxes I was paying. And that was after moving there from California. It is probably just me, but getting 10% less food every week because it is sale taxed really chaps my ass. If you love to drive, move there for some of the lowest taxes on gasoline. If you love to eat…

Dutchman
Dutchman

Taxing groceries – that really sucks.

Mary Christine

Grocery tax in Kansas depends on the county but near Kansas City it’s almost 10%.

Missouri is better at about 4% but it is still taxed.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty

So long as the government maintains the monopoly position on education in this state (ie – they steal from every property owner to fund the system, mandate attendance, regulate all other choices to death, etc.) a free market system of charity, co-op, alternative, neighborhood, on-line, homeschool, or other types of schools will NEVER be able to gain a serious foothold to replace this failing system. The system is based on theft and force so gets NO sympathy from me regarding its failure or “lack of funding.” Additionally, the worthless government folks are likely stealing money to fund crony handouts to fracking, etc. and I will NEVER side with government actions on anything (unless they are working on abolishing their bureaucracy). But if education is important to the masses, then they need to take it out of the hands of the worthless government. Education is FAR TOO IMPORTANT to be left to politicians and bureaucrats.

Mustang
Mustang

If being a teacher in OK is such a raw deal why do people do it??? If they don’t like it they could always get a CDL and work in the OK oil patch making $75,000 to $100,000 a year. Naw, can’t do that! That would be too simple!

Dutchman
Dutchman

If being a teacher in OK is such a raw deal why do people do it?

They are incapable of doing anything else.

overthecliff
overthecliff

4 day school week means Oklahoma kids are 20% better off than kids in 5 day public school systems. That said there is plenty of money being spent on public schools. The schools just need to stop teaching black lesbian morphadite studies and transgender locker room mixing. They need to stop wasting education dollars on kids who don’t want to learn won’t learn and not attend class. In my school system it costs 13,000 dollar per year per student. that is one 40,000 dollar teacher for every 3 students. Where the hell is all that money going?

MrLiberty
MrLiberty

And where are the Oklahoma Congress critters introducing legislation to abolish the DOEduation and abolish all the federal rules that force them to hire so many useless “administrators” to comply with these regulations and the paperwork that goes with them? I remember talking with a Superintendent of a California school district back in the 90s who told me that between federal and state (you know the state legislators need to feel like they are doing something too) regulations, etc. he had been forced to increase his administrative staff 10x in the last decade SIMPLY to comply with all the bullshit (not his term). He told me straight out that not ONE of these folks did even ONE minute of teaching or anything that advanced the cause of education in the district.

BB

Stucky ,after my mom goes to be with our Lord I’ll be selling our home and buying ” something ” in Western North Carolina .You will always be welcome at my little slice of heaven .Just a thought

Llpoh
Llpoh

Th US needs to junk its entire public school system and start again. Teachers may not make much, but govt spends, what, $14k a year per kid, or $350k per classroom. Where does the money go? Where does the money go?

Teachers should be paid a lot – say $100k a year. But not the current teachers. Teachers should be the best and brightest, not the dullards we currently have. Teachers should be supported, and not be damn babysitters trying to maintain discipline full time. Unruly kids should be tossed and not catered to.

Schools should be a place of education, not the damn zoos they currently are. Take a look at how sa SKorea does education. Teachers are very well paid and honored. Kids behave. And outcomes are just a teeny tiny bit better than in the US.

Hiring Shaneequa to teach is not going to cut it. Squandering money is not going to cut it. Hiring people who can barely read, right, spell, or speak the English language ditto. Teaching in Spanish – umm no.

Start over. Ditch the entire system. Get better people. Support them. Dump the ratbag kids onto their parents so they do not drag the actual learners down. Outlaw teacher’s unions.

Apologies to the good teachers out there, and there are many. It is just that there are so many poor ones in a horrificly bad system.

starfcker

Great post. Common sense

MrLiberty
MrLiberty

Want accountability? Let the parents have total control – THEY pay, they can take their money and walk, they can influence the curriculum with their threats to take their money and walk, etc. Let charities run schools, let private individuals contribute whatever they wish to fund charity schools or private scholarships, etc. but STOP WITH THE SOCIALIST FUNDING MECHANISM and ALL GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran

^ this. Socialized education has been around so long that most people don’t even know that they’re socialists.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty

Agreed. And the FED and the income tax have been around so long that nobody left alive remembers what it was like to NOT be a slave to their government.

Zarathustra

“It’s not just teachers: the highway patrol has been given orders not to completely fill their gas-tanks at the pump, to help with state cash-flow; drunk drivers go free because there is no one available to process their tickets, and the prison system is on the verge of collapse.”

This sounds great to me! Okahoma isnt much more than an hour drive from here. Nice to know I can visit it without having to worry much about copfuks.

Hguvuvi
Hguvuvi

Most K-12 teachers are women, so of course voters are going to vote to give them more money. I’m in NE Oklahoma and big surprise that you can’t make a living teaching school in area where property taxes are based on used mobile home values. Shocking. Maybe some people ought to figure out how to be adults and take responsibility for schooling their spawn instead of whining like the women they are that “muh teachers need more of your money”. Stop letting school get in the way of education. Schools are over-rated day prisons with entitled wardens and guards.

Dutchman
Dutchman

Most K-12 teachers are women

That’s because teaching has become a baby sitting job.

erica
erica

Am I the only one here who is concerned that the only job (at least as its stated in the headline) teachers can do on their day off is work at Wal-Mart?
Shouldn’t these oh so qualified teachers be able to really rake in some extra cash three days a week? maybe working in labs , analyzing data, testing petroleum, maybe writing computer code, authoring textbooks, writing novels, translating foreign languages etc.
Nope best they can do is Wal-Mart. just how qualified are the “teachers”?

MrLiberty
MrLiberty

Tutoring? Running their own schools?

mike
mike

Stucky what makes you think that Oklahoma wants a self-professed jackoff from New Jersey to move there. In general mid-westerners don’t like East Coast folks, so maybe you should take the middle of the USA off your move to list We already have enough home grown assholes.

Mary Christine

“at-least-this-place-isn’t-as-shitty-as-other-shitholes”.

I think I am living in a “not as shitty a shithole” .

Maggie
Maggie

Also known in some circles as “not as pathetic as misery.” See what I did there Me Hoe, sister just walking the burning platform.

Anyone seen any coyotes around here today? I think our neighbor’s little mutt got chewed to pieces in the woods last night. So, there’s that excitement here, meaning it is not as pathetic as misery or as shitty as a shithole.

Although, it IS Missouri, where one must be SHOWN and not just told. Right, Mary?

Who wants me to get all winter geared up and go take some pictures of what that pack of coyotes ripped to pieces in my deer camp?

EC?

By the way, witty wordworking wonks, the funny line to Mary, queen of misery, “sister just walking the burning platform” is SJW and TBP combined for a new term for lexicography consideration. We have TBP big dogs and TBP morans and TBP asswipes and TBP asskissers, but what I am suggesting to the ladies of TBP (and no genderbender shit) is that we be known as the TBP SJWs… Sisters Just Walking The Burning Platform.

I’m funny today. Yes I am. Don’t forget to tip your waitresses and send your donations to Admin, who provides a home for those who might speak free.

Maggie
Maggie

So that SJW becomes a sister just walking instead of social justice warrior. I’m taking back control of my acronyms.

TampaRed
TampaRed

kinda early in to be drinking ,isn’t it maggie?
serious question-do you grow your own rabbit food?
permies.com had a thread the other day about growing your own —

Anonymous
Anonymous

Sistas jes walkin sounds like a troupe of trollops with slit dresses and beehive hairdos out trolling for Harveys and Larrys.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Do you live in El Paso, MC?

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf

Best thing I ever saw in Oklahoma was it in my rearview mirror when I went on pcs leave prior to flying to Korea. Best thing that could ever happen to Fucklahoma is its conversion to a fucking parking lot.

Conejo Roho
Conejo Roho

When the OK lottery was formed a dozen or so years ago, it was supposed to solve this very problem.

TampaRed
TampaRed

conejo,
it’s like that in every state that has a lottery–pols gradually start using lotto $ for regular education funding and put the former education $ somewhere else in the budget–

Iska Waran
Iska Waran

The best thing about a lottery is that it’s a completely optional tax paid only by poor, stupid people. With the progressivity of the income tax and “means testing” of many government benefits – including college financial aid – it’s good to have some taxes – like gas, cigarette and booze taxes – that are regressive as hell. The bad thing about a lottery is that maybe the state shouldn’t be in the business of fleecing morons, it being unethical and all.

Fulton

Foolish “born again Christian” Okies do not value education anyway. “Children don’t need no Larnin; they can listen to Rush Limbaugh and watch NASCAR.”

falconflight
falconflight

Took a break from yer coal smoking? Go back to what you and yours do best.

Taxation Is Theft
Taxation Is Theft

Oklahoma is terrible. I’ve been here since 2003 after leaving the paradise called California. My wife and I have raised two kids who are super smart, get good grades, and think (most) of their teachers are full of shit. Please stay in NJ and CA. Humanity thanks you.

Desertrat
Desertrat

Ever since my son brought home a note from his 4th Grade teacher, I’ve had a wee bit of a problem in maintaining respect.

In pencil on a torn-off piece of notebook paper she wrote: “Tom’s problem is he think he are better than everone else.”

A direct quote that I’ve never forgotten, from almost 45 years ago.

Maggie
Maggie

A third grade teacher at a local school (NOT my son’s, but the neighbor’s daughter a few years older), sent home a mimeographed assignment for her daughter to rewrite five times and memorize. It was the preamble to the US Constitution, with the word “posterity” misspelled “POSTERIOR.”

I tried and tried to convince the kid’s mother that it did indeed matter what her daughter memorized because one day she was going to know the Founding Fathers’ did it for their ASS and not for their descendants.

Neither she nor her idiot husband who preached at me about hellfire and condemnation half the time he was around us (must have been all the wine bottles in the trash) had a problem with their daughter memorizing it as written. By the time my son was in elementary a few years later, they didn’t memorize jackshit.

Maggie
Maggie

I would like to make a public apology to the Sooner State for my former negative comments. While I do have some issues with the public school system in Oklahoma and have terrible memories of living there for over 25 years, I also have wonderful memories and friends still happily living in Oklahoma. I’m an honest hypocrite, as we all should learn to be as we become aware of our own hypocrisy regarding the Truth which must set us free.

Mama Agnes lived in Oklahoma for a while and for that I will always be grateful, though Mama Agnes spelled it GREATFUL.

You are going to like her.

Maggie
Maggie

EC? MC? RiNS? Unaskable? Mk? Bea? FM, (do you realize when I saw your moniker at first, I assumed frequency modulation, automatically looking at all caps as a signal to apply expanded meaning to the letters of the acronym – definitely a government worker/military “tell” isnt’ it?), Yoyo, the brothers karamozov (there is cluster of muster here whose monikers are too hard to puzzle about much and have become, in my thoughts, members of “the brothers karamozov”), JQ, HSF, Stucky, Suzanna, Death Nurse, new and old others who might fit the category? I am sticking this here as a test of a theory I have concerning word use. If I am correct, I will return and let you know.

If Francis Marion had been named Andrea Irritation Marion then his name would be AIM and would not have reminded me of radar theory but now that I’ve brought up the ghost with the most demand for recognition in the Finnegan’s wake of this past week, I might as well remind everyone I was once a red rope with hope.

Big Jake has been down in his hip and a concerned friend asked me to consider putting him down. He is outside in the cold happily trotting along the fenceline, limping, but guarding faithfully.

Ta Ta For Now.

Anonymous
Anonymous

That was a 2 corn cob post, Maggoo.

TampaRed
TampaRed

maggie,
i don’t consider myself an animal expert but i have owned a bunch of dogs over the years-
they can be in a lot of pain & still have a pretty good life–
if they still have some fire inside & are still eating & eliminating well,it ain’t time–

Bad Brad
Bad Brad

I am now going to edumacate the know it all, Mr. DingleBerry Stucky.
We don’t need you here anyway, so kiss off. The teaching profession has
been over taken by the Unions…..gubermint unions. We have 77 counties in
this sparse State. We have almost 550 school Districts. Everyone has a
Stuperindent. Last I heard THE LEAST anyone one of them made was
$80,000 plus rich benefits. Many have the Districts have a small number of
students. The larger Districts have boatloads of principals, assistant what
evers made of up “we don’t teach” but get big paychecks, pensions, and
health care. The lowly teacher in the classroom is carrying all the water
for the top heavy administrators.
My concern is not for the young graduates going to nearby States for
higher paying jobs. I question why have so many stinking colleges churning
out employees for other States. WE THE PEOPLE spend a pile on edumacation
here. 2/3 rds of our entire revenue goes into that money pit. The Lottery did
not help. The cry is for ‘Mo Money. We don’t have it. Oklahoma is a one trick
pony with gas & oil.

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